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I thought I'd share some hopefully helpful information with you guys after having to have 2 swap outs of my Nexus S after getting it on launch day.
I had done an awful lot of reading prior to getting my Nexus to make sure I was pretty clued up about any potential launch bugs which seem to plague a number of handsets these days.
The first thing I noticed with my first phone was the unusually fast battery drain and long charge times, I could hardly go through daylight hours without my phone needing charge (Battery indicator showing orange or red). The following night I left the phone with 55% charge and went to sleep. When I woke up the phone was off, strange I thought; turns out it had eaten the rest of the battery over night.
The final straw came when I reset the phone to default settings (thinking it was a rogue app causing the drain) and it still ate the battery within a day. At this point I knew something was up, especially as reviewers were commenting that the battery seemed considerably better than a lot of other Android handsets.
I decided to take it back to Best Buy to get a swap out, long story short the sales rep. tested the battery and told me that it was defective. He then said he would swap out just the handset and battery with another unit, great I thought!
My relief was soon disturbed when I realised something wasn't right with the screen on my new handset. Not only was the screen a pee yellow colour (compared with the cool temperature of the original) there was also significant banding within the grey area of the the pull down notification tray. These problems had also been mentioned on the Engadget review and even if they hadn't I'm pretty sure I still would have noticed it straight away regardless.
After another trip back to Best Buy and a reluctant second swap out on their part, I have what seems like a fully working handset with a good battery and decent AMOLED panel.
I don't know what's happening with Samsung's QC or whether they have large tolerances for their panels, but I would have thought that they would have been able to iron a lot of this out having already launched the Galaxy S series.
A slightly long post but I hope this at least saves some of you the hassle I've been through to get a decent handset. This isn't the first time it's happened either, I had problems with my launch day iPhone 4 with the mic not working.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to be far more vigilant when buying my next handset.
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
nothing new for samsung QA
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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brianbrain said:
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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Sadly, Google != Apple, they don't produce their own hardware. Depending on Samsung, with their known ****ty QA is a risk I'm sure they weighed.
I ordered my NS online and have none off theses issues! Actually my battery life is AWESOME. 16 hours straight between charging. I love it!
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robstunner said:
I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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HHmm, If a few are defective, then they ALL must be. Quick, we must warn the others!
I'm not following you? I was implying that all phones have bad batches. No need to get butt hurt if that offended you?
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3G supported band
Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Correct, it wont work on AT&T/Bell/Telus 3G (someone correct me if im wrong about the Canadian carriers)
Having the same battery problem, please help
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
SmartphonesTV said:
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Standard-Battery-Moment-M900/dp/B0026LQL40/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top this battery works if you need to buy a new one
Calm down OP. You are just unlucky I suppose. Not only Samsung, I had to switch my ex droid2 three times. First, the microphone doesn't work. Second one, the power button then the third time physical keyboard was not responsive. Just my .02
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Its called mass production people each headset will have a defect!!! Live with it or dont buy simple
Yep battery life on my phone seems crap compared to my iPhone 4 but its a good phone never the less.
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As of now, the nexus s i definitely eating up more battery than my n1. but i usually give it a week before i can say fore sure. are there extended batteries out for the NS?
Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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if you check the accessories thread someone says its a 1500
Darrien13 said:
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
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Thx for that - thought I was going mad! Vol+ and Back seem dodgy - don't work every time. I'll be taking it back to the shop on Tuesday...
I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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That's really odd...maybe the phone had a defect or something but yes all G2s can be rooted/s-off since we haven't had any new updates from t-mobile to prevent us from rooting the phone
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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Ah I see... anyways just tell the new rep, tell that you already called another rep and was about to give you a replacement but something happen or something... it will make the process faster. when will you leave? T-mobile can send you the replacement phone if you pay 20$ it will get to your house in 1-3 days rather than the normal 3-7 days
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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Once you get your new replacement you have to reroot/S-off your phone again and flash clockwork. If you have any backups in your sd card just flash your backup and you will have the same stuff you had on your old phone.
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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Lol ohh... well nand for g2 yes.
Lol maybe by chance you overclocked?
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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Aha I see. Well what I do is I put it 1.5 ghz but on ondemand. Never gets hot at all but when I put it on profomance it heats up quickly. Lol have u tried MUIU? Its pretty good.
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Either the battery itself is fried, or some SOFTWARE you're running is responsible. Swapping out the phone itself is pointless. Try a WIPE and see if the problem doesn't come back. If it does, replace the BATTERY.
I didn't read if yo ugot it fixed, but check your battery status... liek what's been using that. I had that one time and like my email app for example used a **** load... I reflashed it and started it from new and it's fixed now.
exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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TJBunch1228 said:
What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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+1 I do agree with that
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Oh ok...nuf sed! I am in agreement...
But if I see granny pants on any of my dates then...date is over!
dhkr234 said:
Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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For the record, tmobile concluded that it's hardware, not me *can't exactly say I have it fully rooted/modded* and the only reason I called them was that my wife used to work for verizon and it was a known issue that a certain battery style/make/whatever was known to have this exact issue. So she told me to call and ask if it was some known problem that I could tell them my serial to identify if my battery falls under those conditions. They said since it wasn't still bloated by the time I called them, it must be the phone. I talked them out of sending me a replacement... that I'll see if it comes back and immediately call them lol.
I haven't had the issue come back, I think I'm on Nightly 3, and I'm about to flash the latest but I want the battery more charged before I do so. I got like 3x the battery life today than I did the other day.
For whoever asked, I haven't tried MIUI, looks pretty interesting but I'm quite a die hard Cyanogen guy lol. I wish it came to the vibrant
THE GET RICH QUICK SCHEME:
1. Keep phone.
2. Keep using phone the way it is.
3. Induce it to blow up.
4. Sue HTC
5. ? ? ?
6. Profit
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE QUESTION MARKS LOL... remember the "droid x that blew up while I was talking on it and it cut my face/I smashed my droid x I want a refund trolol" guy?
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I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
I love my vibrant had it since release....
Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!
I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant
I want mine to do my chores
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A solid gps and a flash for the camera
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.
Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.
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I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.
What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...
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you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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I've been seeing a LOT of posts to the effect of "all Vibrants vary", etc... I'm not talking about Vibrant 3G vs 4G or Bell Vibrant, we all know those differences.
What I'm referring to is how phones that are supposed to be identical act and perform vastly different. This leads frequently to claims of "LIAR" and flames, etc. I for one admit I find myself unable to believe for a second anyone that claims to get more than 10 hours of battery life on a GOOD day with a Gingerbread ROM, but people have posted screenshots of 16-25 hours with supposedly stock batteries.
The things I've noticed that are "different" about everyone's phones:
1) Some wipe the SD Card frequently on updating. Others never do.
2) Some came with no hardware access to download mode, some had it.
3) Some have awesome GPS, others have terrible GPS, which leads to #4
4) GPS fixes that improve one phone actually make the next phone WORSE. This is illogical unless there are actual differences in the GPS Radio...
5) Some get decent battery life on Gingerbread, while others are completely unusable, starting to visibly drain the moment you pull them off the charger. And this has no relation to battery life on Froyo, eliminating possible actual battery or user differences.
I did not include overclocking ability, because that's normal with the tight tolerances on CPU production runs. This other stuff, it's just not normal if everything internally is the same.
It just seems too much to be quality tolerances. As I said, people are coming to blows over some of this stuff. When I see someone claim they get good battery life on Gingerbread, and that all it takes is calibrating your battery, I want to bludgeon them over the head with my phone that drains 65% of its battery just sitting there idle for 8 hours, or 40% drain if I'm using my extended battery... when with Froyo, I get 1 or 2% drain in the same time period. But certainly people are getting "decent" battery life.
Even more strangely, it seems like when the phone was manufactured doesn't seem to matter. But the differences, especially in claimed battery life on Gingerbread, and the tendency to have GPS fixes work on one phone and actually 100% fail on the next, makes me wonder if there isn't some issue that hasn't been identified. Are there perhaps 2 different parts suppliers for some component in the phone, that perhaps Samsung is aware of and has written around, or compromised to, which would explain mediocre stock GPS performance, or what is going on?
Are there other differences people have noticed? I'm wondering that if maybe we can somehow identify the actual differences or some pattern, maybe it will clue in the more experienced developers as to what it will take to fix these issues. Currently though, as each developer typically only has 1 or 2 phones, their own, to test on, they can't easily test on both the "good" and the "bad" vibrants.
For example, if you've swapped a Vibrant on warranty, have you gotten one back before that had markedly different characteristics? Notably faster or more laggy than before, drastically different battery life, etc?
What do y'all think?
I have switched out 3 vibrants and this last one is a bit faster but the gps seams more lagging than my last one also I have noticed screen color and brightness differences as well which in part could be responciple for the battery drain. You would think a company such as samsung would have there stuff together.
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Well mine is odd i can say that. My stock gps never worked. Once i rooted and started using sgps fix i had no issues. I get great battery life on gingerbread (24hours plus on moderate use) but cannot get a gps lock no matter the fix. I cannot run cm7 either it will drain an entire battery in 3 hours if i do. I can run a stable overclock on gb or froyo at 1.6+all day long with no issues.
My wifes vibrant is about the exact opposite of mine i can run the same roms and kernels but hers will not handle overclock or compare similar in quadrant or running 3d games. So yeah its not just you there is something oddly different in these so called same devices.
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I get 22+ hours on every rom I have ever tried and I have tried almost all of them. My gps has also worked well on every rom including gingerbread. I'm using trigger right now and it easily gives me 20 plus hours with screen on over 4 hours...not that battery matters much. Every one should have an extra battery even if it's a cheapy one and there arter ton of those around.
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You also have to take into account that the parts of the phone can be slightly or vastly different.
Just from a manufacturing stand point in general I can say with utmost certainty that no matter what steps are taken to ensure identical parts across a line of anything there will always be differences. The time my circuit board went through quality control may have been the end of a shift and the person may have cared about their job a lot. The line stops next shift comes on and a slacker who just got dumped by his girl checks the very next board that may not quite meet spec. This is just one example.
My other example is that of processor chips. As far as computers go, and I'm sure its the same here, the chips are made from a large wafer. Toward the center is higher quality and the edges are lower quality. All these chips meet the minimum requirements but the ones from the center could probably be meet the minimum requirements of the next level chips.
This doesn't even take into account all the outside factors after manufacturing. Yours goes to Tulsa with Mr. UPS and mine comes to Florida with some temp Meth head that managed to fake his way into a job and decides that since its the basketball playoffs he wants to be Lebron with my package.
I hope some of that makes sense. You and I can take the exact same steps to wipe and flash but because of the far too many factors that can make our phones different we may or may not get the same results. All we can do is try to get everything to an optimal place that it works across the majority of phones.
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i think it also depends on when and where u bought your phone from can effect your device, for example on froyo i had good battery life 15 hours with moderate use and great gps, but with gingerbread i get about 18-19 hours on moderate with cm7, my gps barley works and any gps fix has no effect on it, my phone can handle slight UV but anything under -100 it gets unstable but i can clock up to 1.7ghz stable i tried 1.8 but that made it crash, so i guess its also based on luck
I had great results with the s.gps.2.zip file flashed on top of Bionix 1.3.1 on BOTH of my Vibrants (mfg. on 10/10 and 1/11). I've been lucky that they both mirror each other in anything I do to them.
Now you gotta take in consideration that you can't go by what everyone claims here regarding their battery life. I'm not calling everyone liars but there are some that you just gotta throw the bull**** flag on them. I seen post claiming that they got 50 hours of battery life (maybe on standby) but I don't see that happening with "regular" use.
Now wtf would you consider "regular" or "moderate" use? Nobody knows cuz every one's use would be different.That's why I feel you can't go by that claim. I can't tell you how many hours I get on a full charge because I can't clone what I do with my phone everyday to give you a number. There are weekdays I have 70% from 5am-4pm and others I'm changing my battery at 4pm cuz I'm on red. I know for sure though that its a hell lot better that when I was on stock.
Alex9090 said:
I get 22+ hours on every rom I have ever tried and I have tried almost all of them. My gps has also worked well on every rom including gingerbread. I'm using trigger right now and it easily gives me 20 plus hours with screen on over 4 hours...not that battery matters much. Every one should have an extra battery even if it's a cheapy one and there arter ton of those around.
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If I was able to get 22+ hours on JVP/Q/R GB *or* CM7 I'd be there in a heartbeat. Unfortunately although I can easily get 30 hours on Froyo with my light usage and the STOCK battery (we won't even talk about my Momax), I am lucky to get 10 hours on any GB...
The thing is, these differences are not "minor", they're HUGE differences that people are experiencing. When I say I'm lucky to get 10 hours on GB, I'm saying I can put my phone onto 2G mode only, lay it on the nightstand, and wake up 8 hours later to find 50% of the battery drained - without having done ANYTHING. And then do the same with Froyo and only drain a couple of % - with the same installed apps.
On the CM7 threads and the JVP/Q/R threads it's typically "Well you won't get as good as FROYO but it's acceptable", and that's just not the case with a good portion of users.
I don't blame the developers, of course... what I'm saying is there's SOMETHING, given all these differences, not just battery drain, that is different about these phones that hasn't been discovered. It's enough to make me want to exchange my phone before the warranty is up in September "just to see" if a different phone would be better.
I think mine is the most "common variation" of the Vibrant
- Received the contract through an authorized reseller first week of October
- Not hardware locked
- Never had mysterious sd wipe issues
- GPS worked (locked anywhere from 2 minutes to 5 seconds depending on settings) but will suffer occasionally from horrible, horrible drifting issues (too afraid to perform hardware fix). Interesting to note, s.gps.zip worked wonders but s.gps.2.zip (or whatever it was called) completely broke my gps.
- Never bothered to test if I could overclock or not, but my phone has had the freeze of death when underclocking to 100 or 200 mhz.
- Everything else worked as it should: odin (never had a failed flash), voodoo (never had the not enough space error), etc. etc..
regarding battery life
- pretty standard, custom rom or not, I was able to go through the day with 1 charge (eclair and froyo). Best was Axura 2.x with JK2 modem (around 26 hours I believe).
- GB. It hasnt been as nice as froyo but I believe the devs have done their best without a Vibrant-specific leak. It could last a day, but thats being very generous with screen on time and usage. I believe the GB roms will be on par with froyo if we recieved a leak of our own..
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Hi everyone!
(TL;DR: i had hardware issues - overheating, slow mobile data, crappy battery life on 3G, non-responsiveness, etc. - that all got solved by replacing the battery for a new one)
I've been a faithful N1 user (briefly went to the nexus S, but came back) since april 2010, and my nexus one has been great ever since i got it.
A few months ago, I started having random hardware issues: first my camera led wouldn't turn on, then the speaker and vibrating motor went bad (I replaced all three parts with spares from ebay), and while i thought everything was repaired, I started having serious battery life and other random issues i couldn't really diagnose.
My phone would overheat after around 5 minutes with the screen on (i.e. while reading the morning news), 3G data was spotty and very slow, and the phone would sometimes be unresponsive for brief amounts of time. Also, my battery life dropped from lasting the whole day, to not even reaching 3PM. I managed to solve most of the issues by going 2G only - after all, I said, it's been almost 2 years and the phone was bound to go bad some time - however, the phone never really felt stable again.
In the meantime, I bought an OEM battery and a replacement digitizer (my battery stats blamed the screen for like 90% of battery consumption, so I guessed there was some sort of electric short on the digitizer or lcd, and the battery calibration app said my battery was only 84% fit), so I guessed I could try one last round of repairs before declaring my N1 retired. I even bought a Sensation in preparation to that sad moment.
Long story short, I swapped batteries 2 days ago and all my issues disappeared as if it was magic. Now I'm at 60% battery, with 3G on all day, and it's been 13 hours on, yesterday was similar. The phone has never overheated again since the battery replacement, and has been as responsive as I can remember, and mobile data has been somewhat faster (I blame my carrier for sucky speeds).
So, if you are experiencing weird hardware issues like mine, sudden changes in behaviour or just plain sucky battery life, it might mean it's time to get a replacement!! my battery lasted for about 2 years, and that's a very very good run.
Also, a bad battery was most probably the cause of the other components going bad, since i guess it didn't provide a stable supply of power.
Now I'm in love with my N1 again, and don't know what I'm gonna do with the Sensation I bought in desperation!!
Just sharing my story, maybe it can help somebody get their N1 back on full working condition.
Soooo agree!
I recently got my Nexus from my Dad. He blamed it for many things, included sudden reboot and overheating. I tried a bunch of GB roms, even stock (on which I even can't boot in with SIM on) and then I thought of the battery's fault.
As I can't find an OEM one, I just pick a new chinese battery, a SCUD 1420, the brand is kinda well-known as a decent battery replacement in town. Well, the battery life isn't that good, but now my phone hasn't reboot since then. Especially now when I run ICS, very smooth for an old N1
Still, could you tell me where did you get your battery please? I'm looking for an OEM that has better battery life.
Viva el N1
I bought from this seller on ebay. At least my unit looks ok (not exactly like the original battery that came with the phone, but very close).
it's also quite cheap, considering it revived my phone.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/33046584691...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1849wt_1189
mine gets a little overheat (debug mode even shows "overheating") when charging the original battery.
and since it was new, the touchscreen does not work if the screen is on for a long time while charging.
just got a new 3.2A/H battery, it haven't solved the touch screen the slightest
still not showing overheating though... but the original one showed even when it was new.