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Arc Home Launcher scrolling and preview lag

I bet you guys have already had a look on the Arc Home launcher
I am wondering if it lags on your X10 when scroll and opening the preview
I have tried it on stock and CM 6.1.2 rom,both are laggy.
I noticed that when no widget is added,that screen is quite smooth but once any widget is added,it lags like a hell
It also seems that the kernel/baseband would affect the degree of lag.
In this demo,with .4x baseband(1:13 shows it),the scrolling and the preview is not too laggy but on mine,.54,it lags
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Xrs0x2QmGbI&vq=medium
Is it because the newest baseband screwed up the image performance so that the launcher lags like the hell?
cheers,
L
If someone can mod the file such that it becomes much smoother,that will be great~

I'm running .54 (stock 435 rom) and the Arc launcher is only laggy during the widget preview screen. The rest works fine for me.

yeah that video i made, i didnt have alot of widgets but today i decided to put every widget on screen.......it could not handle it

lags just a bit when moving to anothe screen, with apps is fine, widget insertion takes a bit tho :s

Baseband has NOTHING to do with image performance. It only affects wireless connections, radio, signal, wifi, gps...

sorry,it should be the kernel....always get confusing
My_Immortal said:
Baseband has NOTHING to do with image performance. It only affects wireless connections, radio, signal, wifi, gps...
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well this show us how arc lag will be xD

alankstiyo said:
well this show us how arc lag will be xD
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How tragic.

alankstiyo said:
well this show us how arc lag will be xD
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hardware is different, i dont think launcher on arc will lag.

the gpu of arc is much better than ours
muratbaizhanov said:
hardware is different, i dont think launcher on arc will lag.
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I am using sysctl tweaks and it does't lag at all. I am using it as my default launcher and it works great. Its the best home screen I have ever used.

burshturs said:
I am using sysctl tweaks and it does't lag at all. I am using it as my default launcher and it works great. Its the best home screen I have ever used.
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Please can you share your sysctl settings?
I get no observable change for using that...
cheers,
L

I had it almost the whole day as default home and after 3 hrs of use bye it got so damn laggy that had to uninstall it
using latest fw and JIT but still lags :S also can't stand just 4 icon lines instead of 5
the dock doesn't support widgets

alankstiyo said:
well this show us how arc lag will be xD
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Jmercy09 said:
How tragic.
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You two are trolling right?
You're comparing hardware/software that are a year apart. I guarantee the Arc will be faster than the X10. It's stupid NOT to think so.

lol the arc has a better gpu adreno 205 compared to x10's adreno 200, the arc has 512mb ram compared x10's 384mb. there are many hands on previews on the net for the arc.

Okay, this is sweet! Works good on mine. I think my time with LauncherPro is done. wo00oo0o0

Hey L,
Here my ARC Home is pretty smooth with no lags.
At the beginning yes but after 3-4 hours , super.
.55 base
CM 6.1.2 (Xtremes)
But, I'll not use this Home with SE 2.1 because it is very laggy.
Maybe an Android version problem ? 2.2 and 2.3 work great with Arc dump.

+1. it lags a little but as stated from before, this is running on x10 hardware not the ARC hardware. i still prefer launcher pro plus over the ARC launcher as of now

sofir786 said:
lol the arc has a better gpu adreno 205 compared to x10's adreno 200, the arc has 512mb ram compared x10's 384mb. there are many hands on previews on the net for the arc.
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No hardware acceleration for android 2.X, so i doubt the gpu plays a part. The lag wasnt that bad IMO, feels like X10 launcher without optimization.

Touch sensitivity.

Just got my hands on my DHD today, since I came from iphone 4, I can't help but compare it heavily.
First few hours of use, I find myself doing a lot of "accidental tap" easily, like when I swipe the screen for scrolling, I pretty much always will end up clicking on something by accident. Is there anyway you can tone down that sensitivity? This problem doesn't really happy when I am using iphone
And the scrolling menu feels a little sluggish/laggy compare to iphone 4 as well. Will this improve if I install a good Custom Rom?
Just wondering anyone out there feels the same?

I've had an iPhone 4 since release day (it was my first iPhone) and also got a DHD today, mainly to scratch the itch that has always been there and so I can decide which one to keep/sell.
I haven't noticed the touch being too sensitive, however you're right about it not feeling as 'smooth' overall as iOS, and I think it's because Android does not yet benefit from GPU acceleration whereas iOS and WP7 do. I believe it is set to get GPU acceleration in the future.

thanks for your reply.
I think I will test the phone until the battery runs out and see how long it lasts.
In the meantime, I will decide which customROM to go for until it does.

Don't let the first charge/discharge put you off the battery life, it is possible to 'train' your battery by calibrating it, making it last as long as possible.

Thanks I will.keep that in mind
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As for the scrolling, you may want to try some launchers other than Sense on the market. I use LauncherPro, and I rarely feel the lag. However, there's still some differences in smoothness when compared to the iphone4.

Yep launcher pro seems to be gpu accelerated so yeah its very smooth scrolling around the app menu and on home screens. I switched from sense to launcher pro about 2 week ago and I can't believe I stayed on sense, though I was more than happy on sense lpp is just too awesome.
I also have a screen protector so I've lost some sensitivity anyways.
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Another thing is to switch on USB Debugging for general use (Settings > Applications > Development). I had a rather noticable lag until I did this, and now it is non-existent.
Of course, running Android Revolution 2.0.13 at 1.23 Ghz might also have something to do with my increased performance... ;-)

letom said:
Yep launcher pro seems to be gpu accelerated so yeah its very smooth scrolling around the app menu and on home screens. I switched from sense to launcher pro about 2 week ago and I can't believe I stayed on sense, though I was more than happy on sense lpp is just too awesome.
I also have a screen protector so I've lost some sensitivity anyways.
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Android dosent support h/w accelerated ui's yet, so none of thoes home replacments are.
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So there is no such thing as CPU acceleration yet even in 2.3 based roms?
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franklin20uk said:
So there is no such thing as CPU acceleration yet even in 2.3 based roms?
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Nope, no GPU acceleration yet, unless honeycomb has it?
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AndroHero said:
Nope, no GPU acceleration yet, unless honeycomb has it?
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So what does tools like CPU Governor do, like you can set your cpu speed with minimum and maxmumspeed?

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So what does tools like CPU Governor do, like you can set your cpu speed with minimum and maxmumspeed?
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You're confusing CPU and G(Graphics)PU - there's no GPU acceleration yet in Android.

What are you looking forward to?

Ok I saw ics like most and im somewhat excited by the possibility of this update on the sgs2.
Now rather than focussing on ports, dev issues, etc. How about we talk about what were looking forward to the most?
Personally I've always found the ui of android lacking compared to its piers like iOS and WP7. My personal interest is in the new look, im running the excellent theme by vertimus and its made using the phone more enjoyable (odd I know) I think options like folders on the homescreens, and even the handling of the running apps makes the ui seem far more user friendly.
my second point I like is the facial unlock, i've never liked unlocking phone via codes or patterns, one people can learn them, and second there labourius
So i'll ask once DO NOT START RANTING ABOUT THE PORT, DEMANDING, ETC. JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.
moderators if you think this is a bad post feel free to shut it down, and ill hold tongue re ics til a later time, id also suggest if some derails this topic u ban them, as a warning..
So what you looking forward to?
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i demand to have a beta build to play with and i want it NOW haha i wanted to be a troll oh yeah by the way when is the release going to be
Just messing...anyways what i am looking forward to the most from ICS. well firstly the ultra smooth fujutweaks that make it extra crisp and smooth when scrolling through the homescreens. also the new layout and animations. to be honest mate although GB is good im just looking forward to the whole OS and i am wondering what the devs of gaming applications and other apps can do with the new beast once it comes out

Matriak31 said:
i demand to have a beta build to play with and i want it NOW haha i wanted to be a troll oh yeah by the way when is the release going to be
Just messing...anyways what i am looking forward to the most from ICS. well firstly the ultra smooth fujutweaks that make it extra crisp and smooth when scrolling through the homescreens. also the new layout and animations. to be honest mate although GB is good im just looking forward to the whole OS and i am wondering what the devs of gaming applications and other apps can do with the new beast once it comes out
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+1
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And as a side note.. Its a shame all the keyboard heroes couldn't shut their mouths n there by ruining your thread
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Ban the Matriak31, BAN HIM!!!
jokes
Yeah I think ICS will bring Android up to the same bar as it's piers, i'm also interested to see if the camera will be instantanious as the Nexus, this will be very useful to myself.
Also you guys have any views on the colour swap google have introduced, i mean green for how long now? and were switching to a colour which i'd call cyan... cyanogen?

diablous said:
Ban the Matriak31, BAN HIM!!!
jokes
Yeah I think ICS will bring Android up to the same bar as it's piers, i'm also interested to see if the camera will be instantanious as the Nexus, this will be very useful to myself.
Also you guys have any views on the colour swap google have introduced, i mean green for how long now? and were switching to a colour which i'd call cyan... cyanogen?
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i wouldn't mind the colour change to be honest..Reminds me of Tron

I'm looking forward to the new awesome smoothness its reported to have . Hopefully force closes and lag will be a thing of the past come ics. and do u think Samsung will launch a new version of tw for the update? Or just release ics and add in the new features wit tw4 :L
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I think iOS has a good interface for a toy with that app drawer and nothing more where you don't even have widgets and you have to go to settings to enable or disable wifi, etc.
Now its about android or wp7 and yes... a real improvement for the intarface is wellcome.

To be honest, I am more than satisfied with my sgs 2 right now. However I will say I do look forward to hardware acceleration. I might not see the difference, but its still appreciated. Also maybe some system improvements would be nice so android would be more efficient at handling resources.

Quite a lot actually...
The camera interface and multitude of extra features that ICS has on offer.
Not much of TW. I mean TW has got better, but is still not in Sense's league (which actualy is pretty big resource hog, the reason why htc phones have never had good battery life). I wouldn't extra software tweaks and additional apps (bloatware..), but keep it non obtrusive.
Keep it as close to stock in terms of visual overlay. Stock ICS does look amazing.
Better battery management, no android os bug.
Better audio quality in video recording.
Better optimised browser and tabbed browsing. All of us do use third party browsers but an excellent stock browser wont hurt. Not everyone is a nerd and we do expect some things to be good , out of the box.
Steer clear of trying to copy ios.. (Sammy you know what I am talking about).
Loads of expectations but well that is just me.

I'm excited about the new multitasking, launcher, and redesigned UI and Widgets.
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King Shady said:
I'm excited about the new multitasking, launcher, and redesigned UI and Widgets.
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+1
Basically we were left out when honeycomb came out. They got the deal and we didn't so this is the update that brings us in the same league.
I am looking forward to Linux kernel 3. Efficiency Improvements. Better games with joystick support. Word like spell check throughout UI. Even smoother graphics. Kick ass mobile platform besting multi tasking. Data usage control like a BOSS.
Am waiting to see what Samsung does to ICS. I feel with touchwiz 4 they did an awesome job.
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Honestly, this phone is close to perfect, as was my Android-running HD2 before it, but anything that improves battery life is particularly appreciated on the sgs2... I know its the old conundrum of battery tech not improving at a time of touchscreen frenzy, but a phone is a phone - something you occasionally need to depend on - and 24 hours does not cut it.
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It should be as battery resourceful as an iphone. xD

I'm looking forward to what the manufacturers are going to do...
What is HTC going to do with sense, what about Touchwiz, Motoblur etc etc?
The ICS UI/launcher looks great and my question is: Does it it need further modification by those companies?

I'm looking forward to rubbing my iphone using friends noses in the dirt!
Nah, just the smoothness and overall optimized speed and look of the ui. Not too big a fan of touchwiz ui though! We'll see.....

Cobesz said:
I'm looking forward to what the manufacturers are going to do...
What is HTC going to do with sense, what about Touchwiz, Motoblur etc etc?
The ICS UI/launcher looks great and my question is: Does it it need further modification by those companies?
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It's not about looking great, it's about being different. We ain't no ios or wp7.
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It seems a lot of users are unaware that touchwiz is hardware accelerated, including the stock browser. I underclock my sgs2 to 500mhz and its just as smooth and slick as default 1200mhz, no difference what so ever. If you use other launchers, you will notice the difference big time. Only really need the extra power for graphically demanding games like Shadowgun and Blood and Glory, and Flash player.

MDaveUK said:
It seems a lot of users are unaware that touchwiz is hardware accelerated, including the stock browser. I underclock my sgs2 to 500mhz and its just as smooth and slick as default 1200mhz, no difference what so ever. If you use other launchers, you will notice the difference big time. Only really need the extra power for graphically demanding games like Shadowgun and Blood and Glory, and Flash player.
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The extra power for graphically demanding games isn't coming in the form of ICS. For that we need an improved GPU which unfortunately won't be until the sgs3 is released. That being said, try Siyah kernel, you can overclock the GPU and have no graphical issues.
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I'm hoping ICS reduces OS fragmentation. Sadly though, I fear it will only lead to more of it.

Improved battery management. Really, I don't ask for much.

Google on hardware acceleration in ICS

Nice explanation from google regarding hardware acceleration, a must read one
http://blog.gsmarena.com/googles-dianne-hackborn-talks-about-hardware-acceleration-in-android-says-it-had-it-in-it-all-along/
Original post
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s

Very interesting indeed.
What do you guys notice with enabled hw acceleration (build.prop tweak and set in most custom ROMs)? Do you think it is always smoother? Do you even feel a difference?

great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?

Gorjess said:
great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?
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It seems to be like that, also the GPU should be strong enough to handle it,else only cpu rendering

The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.

Frostfree said:
The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.
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Well.. that is so true. And probably one of the reasons iOS still rulz
A quick visual overview between and android device vs and iDevice.. would have the android device cry
This is one of the reasons I am really eager to have ICS on my sgs2!
I want to see some smoothness

I saw on Beyond3D linked Andrew Munn's thoughts to Dianne Hackborn's post
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Its a bit of a downer and still a long ways to go.

At last. All this hw acceleration 'hacks', enablers, tweaks, bull****...
it really got on my nerve.

Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.

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Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.
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And that's my friend why I now love samsung and my GS2 so much
It is the only android that makes android really proud

i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.

I'm running cyanogen and never seen any lag, even with very heavy customization.
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As said, twlauncher is really butter smooth even with a live wallpaper, the only problem with twlaucher is resizing and multi dpi. Twlauncher wont use fullscreen when using 200 or 180 dpi.

djunited said:
i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.
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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Android can never be as smooth as iphone?
Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.

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Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.
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""UI rendering occurs on the main thread of an app
UI rendering has normal priority"""
As long as the task is running in cpu we can talk about threading and setting thread priority, but once the task switches to GPU(as in ICS) there will be no need for thread priority and where the rendering of UI takes place.
So if any apps makes use of hw feature in ICS, they should be smooth enough to run at 60fps for rendering.

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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Not sure about that.other launchers are very smooth.phone runs everything fine.what fault coupd there be thats making tw not as smooth as most describe it to be.

Agree with the posts that say TWLauncher is the smoothest on the SGS2, I've tried most of them. Live wallpapers have little effect on that smoothness, and that can't be said for other launchers.
Overall, the SGS2 is as smooth as the iPhone 4 I had.
However, I did play with a WP7 Lumia 800 the other day, and it is definitely the smoothest UI I ever used.
The ip4s is pretty smooth too... but I'd trade a tiny bit of smoothness for the sheer possibilities with Android.... but I have to say I was really quite impressed with WP7.

Was using my mobile clocked down to 500 mhz.. as a downside my go launcher started to lag like anything, switched to stock TW, to my total disbelief, the stock launcher is insanely smooth even when downclocked to 500 mhz. Stock launcher is purely hardware accelerated for sure.

I use hyperdroid which uses a build.prop tweak to enable hardware acceleration. Now even if i place go launcher's apk in system/app folder, still i cant see it running as smoothly as touchwiz. So is that tweak really working with other launchers. I deleted original touchwiz and rebooted but still go launcher lags a lot as comapared to tw. Anyone knows what exactly that tweak does?
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ICS - You guys are delusional

So I am seeing a lot of posts saying that ICS has smoother screen transition.
This is in fact not true.
I know you guys don't want to feel disappointed about something you've been constantly crying about for the last 3 months but get real.
Try any of the HD quality live wallpapers(not the included ones). Screen transition is just as choppy as it was on Honeycomb. No improvement what so ever. Could be even worse.
This was tested on a TF101 that was factory reset before flashing a full(not update) ICS. No old apps or anything that could possibly hinder the performance.
Guess what makes screen transition smooth as butter on ICS? Using a 3rd party launcher app, just like it did on HC.
Back when people were crying everyday and spamming the forums about Asus not releasing ICS for TF101, their biggest and commonly used justification for their incessant whining was that ICS will make everything fast.
Really? So far I haven't seen any noticeable improvement in performance.
What did I notice? Different looking status bar and the ability to swipe things away. Oh and a few more options in the settings.
Oh yes, this was so worth all that crying.

Live wallpapers are very inefficient and have always caused problems especialy with larger screens
ICS is smoother as it has been redesigned and not quickly hacked together like honeycomb was and if you don't notice it well then you should just get an iPad
I would suggest deleting your post before you start a flamewar

mrevankyle said:
Live wallpapers are very inefficient and have always caused problems especialy with larger screens
ICS is smoother as it has been redesigned and not quickly hacked together like honeycomb was and if you don't notice it well then you should just get an iPad
I would suggest deleting your post before you start a flamewar
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3rd party launcher app makes screen transition smooth even with HD live wallpapers, on both ICS and HC.
Give me some examples of ICS actually being noticeably smoother.
Nope, I don't want an ipad. Never liked apple ****. I love Android for its freedom and flexibility.

horndroid said:
3rd party launcher app makes screen transition smooth even with HD live wallpapers, on both ICS and HC.
Give me some examples of ICS actually being noticeably smoother.
Nope, I don't want an ipad. Never liked apple ****. I love Android for its freedom and flexibility.
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Yes 3rd party software does make things better thats why we are here at xda isn't it?
BROWSER
youmustbenewhere Its a common joke when people are saying android is bad

lol, don't compare it with custom launcher. Stock HC vs Stock ICS please

Chrome Beta is the tits. Much better than stock or any of the other browsers I've tried. So there's that.
I don't know why everyone's in such an uproar over how smooth their launcher scrolling is. I'm more interested in how the apps perform than how pretty it looks when I launch those apps.

horndroid said:
So I am seeing a lot of posts saying that ICS has smoother screen transition.
This is in fact not true.
I know you guys don't want to feel disappointed about something you've been constantly crying about for the last 3 months but get real.
Try any of the HD quality live wallpapers(not the included ones). Screen transition is just as choppy as it was on Honeycomb. No improvement what so ever. Could be even worse.
This was tested on a TF101 that was factory reset before flashing a full(not update) ICS. No old apps or anything that could possibly hinder the performance.
Guess what makes screen transition smooth as butter on ICS? Using a 3rd party launcher app, just like it did on HC.
Back when people were crying everyday and spamming the forums about Asus not releasing ICS for TF101, their biggest and commonly used justification for their incessant whining was that ICS will make everything fast.
Really? So far I haven't seen any noticeable improvement in performance.
What did I notice? Different looking status bar and the ability to swipe things away. Oh and a few more options in the settings.
Oh yes, this was so worth all that crying.
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You're almost not worth debating.
Live wallpapers are inefficient
Live wallpapers do horrifying things to ****ty SoCs
Tegra2 is a ****ty SoC
So no matter what Tegra2 will suck with any lwp, and really bad ones will suck worse. BTW, get yourself a copy of Kitteh Face Software's Jungle LWP...then tell me how smooth your special launcher is. Jungle even brings my GS2's Exynos to its knees.

nightwulf said:
I don't know why everyone's in such an uproar over how smooth their launcher scrolling is. I'm more interested in how the apps perform than how pretty it looks when I launch those apps.
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Right on!!!
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horndroid said:
So I am seeing a lot of posts saying that ICS has smoother screen transition.
This is in fact not true.
I know you guys don't want to feel disappointed about something you've been constantly crying about for the last 3 months but get real.
Try any of the HD quality live wallpapers(not the included ones). Screen transition is just as choppy as it was on Honeycomb. No improvement what so ever. Could be even worse.
This was tested on a TF101 that was factory reset before flashing a full(not update) ICS. No old apps or anything that could possibly hinder the performance.
Guess what makes screen transition smooth as butter on ICS? Using a 3rd party launcher app, just like it did on HC.
Back when people were crying everyday and spamming the forums about Asus not releasing ICS for TF101, their biggest and commonly used justification for their incessant whining was that ICS will make everything fast.
Really? So far I haven't seen any noticeable improvement in performance.
What did I notice? Different looking status bar and the ability to swipe things away. Oh and a few more options in the settings.
Oh yes, this was so worth all that crying.
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I have seasonal zen HD live wallpaper and ICS is "WORSE" than HC!

Cookiekaikai said:
I have seasonal zen HD live wallpaper and ICS is "WORSE" than HC!
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I never used tat one on Honeycomb, but scrolling with it on ICS is quite acceptable, even while playing music.

Silly, it wasn't the smoother transitions I was looking for in Ice Cream Sandwich, but rather the numerous other improvements made across the system like:
more options and developer controls, redesigned apps and better theming throughout, features like face unlock and forced hardware acceleration, and of course the ability to install ics only apps like Chrome!
Ice Cream Sandwich runs like an absolute dream on the TF101. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't done a full wipe, hasn't used a TF101 with ics, or is just straight hating.

horndroid said:
Try any of the HD quality live wallpapers(not the included ones). Screen transition is just as choppy as it was on Honeycomb. No improvement what so ever. Could be even worse.
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I don't use any live wallpapers... screen transitions are great... much better than Honeycomb.

This is a KNOWN issue with ICS. Even on the Galaxy Nexus, some Live Wallpapers are horrible. It's something to do with the way their coded. Once the developer updates and supports ICS, the LWP will be smooth.
The problem has to do with "Wallpaper Scrolling" from the launchers. If you Disable wallpaper scrolling, the LWP will also be smooth.

raduque said:
You're almost not worth debating.
Live wallpapers are inefficient
Live wallpapers do horrifying things to ****ty SoCs
Tegra2 is a ****ty SoC
So no matter what Tegra2 will suck with any lwp, and really bad ones will suck worse. BTW, get yourself a copy of Kitteh Face Software's Jungle LWP...then tell me how smooth your special launcher is. Jungle even brings my GS2's Exynos to its knees.
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I never said live wallpapers are efficient. Why are you so defensive? Lol.
My point was that ICS did not improve screen transition to a noticeable degree, contrary to what others are saying. I just used as an example the live wallpaper and the fact that 3rd party launcher apps are able to achieve what ICS or HC can't.
If you read my entire post, it's not about live wallpapers or screen scrolling.
What I am pointing out is that all those ****tards, who spammed this forum with their QQ and whine about Asus not releasing ICS and how ICS was going to be something super amazing, should realize that their QQing was just a big waste of time. ICS is literally just a minor update. Really brings nothing new to the table. Really not worth all that crying and waiting.
I am testing tons of apps right now. I really don't see any noticeable improvement in performance except a few trivial things that were already achieved on HC with 3rd party apps.

Have you tried the new camera app? Faster and better than ever
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Drybonz said:
I don't use any live wallpapers... screen transitions are great... much better than Honeycomb.
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lolwut?
Regular wallpapers were always smooth even on Honeycomb. Seriously, there is no improvement as far as regular wallpaper screen transition is concerned. Stop being delusional.

Unfortunate for you I guess. My transformer is definitely more responsive. Is it so amazing I'd die without it? No. But all in all the keyboard is definitely more responsive. I love ICS for the many other little but lovely changes to Android as a whole.
But to speak to your point, yes ... alot of those " QQ ****tards " who are disappointed, well good! Idk why people would think an OS update would give them blowjobs or end world hunger.
I'm happy for what it has brought. Though I wasn't dying for ICS since I had it on my vibrant so I already knew what was in store
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horndroid said:
lolwut?
Regular wallpapers were always smooth even on Honeycomb. Seriously, there is no improvement as far as regular wallpaper screen transition is concerned. Stop being delusional.
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I have the light grid LWP on my 101, and it was fin in HC, and it's just as fine in ICS. Don't see what all the hubbub is about.

The low-level code for ICS is the same as 3.0 (HC) which has always supported h/w acceleration. People coming from GB will see a bigger benefit. Here's a great article from Dianne Hackborn, a Google engineer, that explains how Android handles graphics. Memory bandwidth is the biggest constraint and Teg2's pretty weak in that area and doesn't support NEON. In other words, s/w can only go so far.
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s

horndroid said:
lolwut?
Regular wallpapers were always smooth even on Honeycomb. Seriously, there is no improvement as far as regular wallpaper screen transition is concerned. Stop being delusional.
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Not really. I never saw perfectly smooth launcher transitions even with a regular static wallpaper. The sluggish scrolling is completely eliminated in ICS with a static wallpaper.
I did a no-wipe OTA update.