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X10 smoothness

Ive always really liked my x10 and coming from a bb storm is was a huge improvement. The one thing thats always driven me nuts about the phones is that all the scrolling, weather it be in menus or the home screen has always been choppy compared to say the iphone. I recently had the chance to use a galaxy s and it too way farr smoother than my x10. Is there anything that can be done to improve this?

root it, delete facerecognition.apk and enable jit
that was the biggest improvement i made

yea my phone is rooted, im pretty sure I have enabled JIT I'm running about 17.5 MFLOPS on Linpack. Ill have to see if facerecognition is still there. Is it constantly running in the background or something?

Are you running the default launcher? If so launcher pro and adw would be a nice choice. As compared to the iphone, no android device will be as smooth until android implement hw acceleration to the UI.

yea I have launcher pro plus, it was a huge improvement ill admit, I was just thrown off at how smooth the galaxy s is. Guess ill just have to live with it

Yea I think he's asking why is the galaxy s is like silky smooth in terms of scrolling and such but not the x10. Both are android phones with 1ghz processor.
I think the reason why is that the galaxy s has a better GPU chip? or a dedicated one? That's what I heard so maybe that's why? Correct me if i'm wrong.

Possibly, but also some widgets can slow it down. For instance i just installed animated contact widget and suddenly my scrolling lags after adding three contacts. I removed it and voila, adw ex is running like crazy again...
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Same here. Using adw ex now, have the scrollable calendar and folder organiser with no effect, but when facebook or contact widgets are added it goes into bullet time... think there's cache issues with the X10. Then again, updated on Xmas eve and lost root.
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you can't solve the smoothness problem on the x10 with software :/ the main problem with this phone is acually the screen.. it's not very responsive and it takes a moment to register your finger. this makes scrolling and everything else laggy compared to other phones with the same hardware
for instance the game fruit ninja is almost unplayable bacause of this.

dforesi said:
Ive always really liked my x10 and coming from a bb storm is was a huge improvement. The one thing thats always driven me nuts about the phones is that all the scrolling, weather it be in menus or the home screen has always been choppy compared to say the iphone. I recently had the chance to use a galaxy s and it too way farr smoother than my x10. Is there anything that can be done to improve this?
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I think you are describing the 30 frames per second limit that SE has implemented on the screen.
Go to the website below and look at the 30 FPS and then 60 FPS. Is this the problem you are describing?
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html

Hey There,
I´ve added this command line: windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=26 to my build.prop and it feels smother whenever you´re going around the homescreen or appdrawer.
You should give it a try....
Ps. You can add that line at the bottom of your build.prop using Root Explorer.
Jim

I got root explorer, i found build.prop in /system/. How do I edit it?
There's no edit option?

you are using launcher pro.
go into the launcher pro settings and there you can change the scrolling speed and smoothness.
turn off the elastic effect and speed up drawer and scrolling speeds.
should be much smoother now.

dforesi said:
Ive always really liked my x10 and coming from a bb storm is was a huge improvement. The one thing thats always driven me nuts about the phones is that all the scrolling, weather it be in menus or the home screen has always been choppy compared to say the iphone. I recently had the chance to use a galaxy s and it too way farr smoother than my x10. Is there anything that can be done to improve this?
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Hmmm...weird because I thought the X10 was much smoother than the Galaxy S...which is why I sold the Galaxy and got back my beloved X10. I didn't like the Galaxy when compared to the X10. Im rooted, deleted timescape, face recognition, etc etc...huge improvements.

I think my X10 is pretty smooth. Compared to my friend's Galaxy S I think its even better. Although mine is rooted and cleared and his is not.

Tri3Dent said:
I got root explorer, i found build.prop in /system/. How do I edit it?
There's no edit option?
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At the top of Root Explorer is an option select the one that says r/w (read/write) and then long press on build.prop and at the end of the pop-up menu choose open in text editor... that way you can add the command line...
I hope this helps.
Jim
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Thanks.. Just did it. In order to make it take effect, just restart the phone?
Or what does this code do anyway?

Tri3Dent said:
Thanks.. Just did it. In order to make it take effect, just restart the phone?
Or what does this code do anyway?
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Did you see or feel an effect? For me there is no difference ...

I am almost 100% sure the problem is the 32fps cap SE placed on this phone. Total and utter garbage! Until we are able to modify the X10's kernel, there will be no improvement to the smoothness you are referring to.
And to the guys who's used both the galaxy S and X10 and think the X10 is smoother, pass me some of that stuff you're smoking will ya?

ProBoner said:
I am almost 100% sure the problem is the 32fps cap SE placed on this phone. Total and utter garbage! Until we are able to modify the X10's kernel, there will be no improvement to the smoothness you are referring to.
And to the guys who's used both the galaxy S and X10 and think the X10 is smoother, pass me some of that stuff you're smoking will ya?
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Agree, in quadrants 700 vs. 1850. Neomark 27 fps vs. 56 fps.
X10 is so much underperforming at the moment, that I could cry. It's so much similar to the Nexus One. Blame SE.

Touch sensitivity.

Just got my hands on my DHD today, since I came from iphone 4, I can't help but compare it heavily.
First few hours of use, I find myself doing a lot of "accidental tap" easily, like when I swipe the screen for scrolling, I pretty much always will end up clicking on something by accident. Is there anyway you can tone down that sensitivity? This problem doesn't really happy when I am using iphone
And the scrolling menu feels a little sluggish/laggy compare to iphone 4 as well. Will this improve if I install a good Custom Rom?
Just wondering anyone out there feels the same?

I've had an iPhone 4 since release day (it was my first iPhone) and also got a DHD today, mainly to scratch the itch that has always been there and so I can decide which one to keep/sell.
I haven't noticed the touch being too sensitive, however you're right about it not feeling as 'smooth' overall as iOS, and I think it's because Android does not yet benefit from GPU acceleration whereas iOS and WP7 do. I believe it is set to get GPU acceleration in the future.

thanks for your reply.
I think I will test the phone until the battery runs out and see how long it lasts.
In the meantime, I will decide which customROM to go for until it does.

Don't let the first charge/discharge put you off the battery life, it is possible to 'train' your battery by calibrating it, making it last as long as possible.

Thanks I will.keep that in mind
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As for the scrolling, you may want to try some launchers other than Sense on the market. I use LauncherPro, and I rarely feel the lag. However, there's still some differences in smoothness when compared to the iphone4.

Yep launcher pro seems to be gpu accelerated so yeah its very smooth scrolling around the app menu and on home screens. I switched from sense to launcher pro about 2 week ago and I can't believe I stayed on sense, though I was more than happy on sense lpp is just too awesome.
I also have a screen protector so I've lost some sensitivity anyways.
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Another thing is to switch on USB Debugging for general use (Settings > Applications > Development). I had a rather noticable lag until I did this, and now it is non-existent.
Of course, running Android Revolution 2.0.13 at 1.23 Ghz might also have something to do with my increased performance... ;-)

letom said:
Yep launcher pro seems to be gpu accelerated so yeah its very smooth scrolling around the app menu and on home screens. I switched from sense to launcher pro about 2 week ago and I can't believe I stayed on sense, though I was more than happy on sense lpp is just too awesome.
I also have a screen protector so I've lost some sensitivity anyways.
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Android dosent support h/w accelerated ui's yet, so none of thoes home replacments are.
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So there is no such thing as CPU acceleration yet even in 2.3 based roms?
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franklin20uk said:
So there is no such thing as CPU acceleration yet even in 2.3 based roms?
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Nope, no GPU acceleration yet, unless honeycomb has it?
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AndroHero said:
Nope, no GPU acceleration yet, unless honeycomb has it?
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So what does tools like CPU Governor do, like you can set your cpu speed with minimum and maxmumspeed?

franklin20uk said:
So what does tools like CPU Governor do, like you can set your cpu speed with minimum and maxmumspeed?
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You're confusing CPU and G(Graphics)PU - there's no GPU acceleration yet in Android.

A lot of Lag

I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.

viniturb0 said:
I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I notice the lag as well. Opening and closing apps that normally just pop.

I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too

vinokirk said:
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.

andyiacovou said:
I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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What widgets are you using?
I have about 15 icons, weather widget and digital clock wiget on one screen and nothing on any of the other screens.

Hmmm that might be the problem. I'm using widgets on every screen. I've gone a bit widget bonkers! Having said that I had the same widgets on the Galaxy S2 and didn't suffer lag issues.
I have rooted and am waiting for some decent ROMS to appear, I'm sure that will fix???
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Hi
Hi friends.
I also notice lag and Im using the stock launcher and with almost no widgets.
Apart from the screen issues that one will notice if he uses the devise for reading.
I had the SGS2 before and the difference is noticable.
Such a pitty for such a promising devise.

I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.

lumbard said:
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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It's the same on my Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's never changed so I wouldn't worry about it.
There were some threads on the SGS2 forum about ideas on how to fix it if I remember rightly.

I love my note but i would have to agree that SG2 is faster compare to note . ( that make ppl feel like the note is laggy as they have used SG2 before )

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thank God the device is super fast....there is no lag at all.....just hard-reset the device and enjoy it

Launcher Pro is much smoother on my Note than ADW...

ADW EX is lightning fast with density hack at 240, all the others lagged.
Obviously mine is rooted. Also using Roboto font.

I have lag
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.

chris Ga said:
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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Yeah I agree, I don't understand the lag with such a powerful device. I suppose it is possible that Samsung has used cheaper, slower dram in this phone. Even the Plus animation when the phone boots micro-stutters. Of well, hopefully in a month we can get our hands on the Nexus.

chris Ga said:
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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That's the nature of Android, because so many manufacturers can use it, developers need to program apps for all of them in mind and seeing they all have the potential to utilise different hardware you can't expect a developer to be able to foresee these things.
What we need to do is just put a request to the developers and ask if they can make it compatible with the Notes graphics card/drivers making it lag free.
This is exactly why virtually all native Samsung apps run fantastic, because their devs know the hardware and drivers hence know how to get full potential.
What would fix this is every time Google releases a version like ICS they should state exactly which hardware will be ALLOWED to run on this platform. But then you lose the openness.
It's a double edged sword, you have to take the good with the bad..
This is unfortunately where apple shines with the iphone because they make the OS and the device. If they just loosened up on their OS a little then we wouldn't be talking here
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The Note will ONLY get better with each update/support from either Samsung or our beloved developers.. And that's a one way direction.. O)nly better..

Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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qazzi76 said:
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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daoutlawz said:
Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Agreed in some respects...
Have you installed AnTuTu CPU master?
I have noticed that when the CPU is operating at 800mhz everything lags.
When I force the CPU to 1400mhz using AnTuTu the lag is present for the first homescreen swipe in ADW EX (DPI 260) then it's smooth as butter.
I have also observed this behaviour in launcher pro.
A guy on here recommended using BetterBatteryStats to possibly locate the apps/background services that are unnecessary hogging the CPU.
Fully agreed on the Iphone performance - but that is clearly due to software strictly tailored for hardware.
Android requires brute force due to software required to work on multiple devices
Gotta say tho my Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen) with overcome is way faster in general operation than the Note... Until I force the processor to stay at 1400mhz - then it just flies.
Clearly the Note has a lot of potential.

[Tweak] UI GPU Acceleration

Hi guys.
I tested this tweak today and it works for me. Smooooooth.
video.accelerate.hw=1
Add this to build.prop with Root Explorer in the /system and reboot.

WTF, sounds awesome. Gonna try!

I can't notice any difference.

I tested it on KitchenRom 2.3.6 KK5 and this tweak improve my home screen scrolling like iphone. No more laggy.
Sorry for my english.

This only accelerates video
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this is already default on checkrom but thanks for the info.
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While this doesn't actually improve the UI acceleration, it does however enable HW decoding for video playback, very useful if you stream HD quality MKVs over MHL.

i feel like most ROMS are already using GPU acceleration?

pewpewbangbang said:
i feel like most ROMS are already using GPU acceleration?
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Some custom roms already have this tweak enabled by default.
But for actual GPU acceleration on Gingerbread(2.3.5) it is limited to only stock video player and 3d applications. Currently the UI it is handled by the CPU alone (ICS will introduce UI GPU acceleration as a standard).

Maybe stock google launcher has no gpu acceleration. Im not really sure about that.
For sure Go launcher (the one im using) has HW acceleration. All those 3D transitions running very smooth (maybe @ 60fps).
Im pretty sure that touchwiz launcher has aswell.

Astri said:
Maybe stock google launcher has no gpu acceleration. Im not really sure about that.
For sure Go launcher (the one im using) has HW acceleration. All those 3D transitions running very smooth (maybe @ 60fps).
Im pretty sure that touchwiz launcher has aswell.
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Sorry,but this is bull****.GoLauncher is less hardware accelerated than I am.
Seriously though,it's not.How do I prove it?Compare it to TouchWiz.Underclock to 200Mhz.GoLauncher CRAWWWWLS while TouchWiz is still smooth,just doesn't open apps quickly.Sorry to spoil it for ya.

tolis626 said:
Sorry,but this is bull****.GoLauncher is less hardware accelerated than I am.
Seriously though,it's not.How do I prove it?Compare it to TouchWiz.Underclock to 200Mhz.GoLauncher CRAWWWWLS while TouchWiz is still smooth,just doesn't open apps quickly.Sorry to spoil it for ya.
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So true. Go launcher works like **** compared to stock TW launcher.
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King Shady said:
So true. Go launcher works like **** compared to stock TW launcher.
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Yep.Bad thing is TouchWiz looks like **** in my opinion.If we could combine the looks and effects of 3rd party launchers and the speed and smoothness of TouchWiz,it'd be ****in' awesome.

tolis626 said:
Yep.Bad thing is TouchWiz looks like **** in my opinion.If we could combine the looks and effects of 3rd party launchers and the speed and smoothness of TouchWiz,it'd be ****in' awesome.
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After 1 year using iphone 4, Touchwiz for me is too laggy. Sence laggy like ****.
But after I used this tweak Touchwiz become better and smooth like iphone.

Go Launcher is a massive pile of crap. It makes the cpu ramp up to the maximum clock speed available all the time: this makes it feel smooth and responsive at the price of draining the battery like there was no tomorrow. LPP is the only smooth, reliable but still battery friendly launcher on the market, and it's a shame that the developer isn't pushing updates anymore...

vnvman said:
Go Launcher is a massive pile of crap. It makes the cpu ramp up to the maximum clock speed available all the time: this makes it feel smooth and responsive at the price of draining the battery like there was no tomorrow. LPP is the only smooth, reliable but still battery friendly launcher on the market, and it's a shame that the developer isn't pushing updates anymore...
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Well,I've heard good stuff about ADW EX too,but haven't tried it myself.
As for GoLauncher,it's not as you say exactly.Yes,it does all that,but I don't care that much about battery.I care about the fact that my device isn't smooth enough at all times even when overclocked.And yes,LPP is a shame that isn't updated.I wonder why Fede left the project.He had promised a big update,some kind of rewrite of the code from scratch etc.But that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

tolis626 said:
Well,I've heard good stuff about ADW EX too,but haven't tried it myself.
As for GoLauncher,it's not as you say exactly.Yes,it does all that,but I don't care that much about battery.I care about the fact that my device isn't smooth enough at all times even when overclocked.And yes,LPP is a shame that isn't updated.I wonder why Fede left the project.He had promised a big update,some kind of rewrite of the code from scratch etc.But that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
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You should try ADW EX it's good stuff. It uses the code from honeycomb for hardware acceleration.

its much smoother for me
and im locked at 500 mhz

jlevy73 said:
You should try ADW EX it's good stuff. It uses the code from honeycomb for hardware acceleration.
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Appearance-wise,is it as good as GoLauncher?

tolis626 said:
Sorry,but this is bull****.GoLauncher is less hardware accelerated than I am.
Seriously though,it's not.How do I prove it?Compare it to TouchWiz.Underclock to 200Mhz.GoLauncher CRAWWWWLS while TouchWiz is still smooth,just doesn't open apps quickly.Sorry to spoil it for ya.
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Well, underclock your pc and try to play the games you was playing before. Performance will drop.
Raw power of cpu will never be able to draw smooth graphics. Obviously, all these animations that Go launcher is using are written with openGl es. Opengl = gpu.
Allthough, maybe im totaly wrong. A developer could give us a reliable answer
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Google on hardware acceleration in ICS

Nice explanation from google regarding hardware acceleration, a must read one
http://blog.gsmarena.com/googles-dianne-hackborn-talks-about-hardware-acceleration-in-android-says-it-had-it-in-it-all-along/
Original post
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s

Very interesting indeed.
What do you guys notice with enabled hw acceleration (build.prop tweak and set in most custom ROMs)? Do you think it is always smoother? Do you even feel a difference?

great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?

Gorjess said:
great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?
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It seems to be like that, also the GPU should be strong enough to handle it,else only cpu rendering

The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.

Frostfree said:
The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.
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Well.. that is so true. And probably one of the reasons iOS still rulz
A quick visual overview between and android device vs and iDevice.. would have the android device cry
This is one of the reasons I am really eager to have ICS on my sgs2!
I want to see some smoothness

I saw on Beyond3D linked Andrew Munn's thoughts to Dianne Hackborn's post
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Its a bit of a downer and still a long ways to go.

At last. All this hw acceleration 'hacks', enablers, tweaks, bull****...
it really got on my nerve.

Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.

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Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.
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And that's my friend why I now love samsung and my GS2 so much
It is the only android that makes android really proud

i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.

I'm running cyanogen and never seen any lag, even with very heavy customization.
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As said, twlauncher is really butter smooth even with a live wallpaper, the only problem with twlaucher is resizing and multi dpi. Twlauncher wont use fullscreen when using 200 or 180 dpi.

djunited said:
i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.
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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Android can never be as smooth as iphone?
Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.

hariprs said:
Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.
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""UI rendering occurs on the main thread of an app
UI rendering has normal priority"""
As long as the task is running in cpu we can talk about threading and setting thread priority, but once the task switches to GPU(as in ICS) there will be no need for thread priority and where the rendering of UI takes place.
So if any apps makes use of hw feature in ICS, they should be smooth enough to run at 60fps for rendering.

King Shady said:
Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Not sure about that.other launchers are very smooth.phone runs everything fine.what fault coupd there be thats making tw not as smooth as most describe it to be.

Agree with the posts that say TWLauncher is the smoothest on the SGS2, I've tried most of them. Live wallpapers have little effect on that smoothness, and that can't be said for other launchers.
Overall, the SGS2 is as smooth as the iPhone 4 I had.
However, I did play with a WP7 Lumia 800 the other day, and it is definitely the smoothest UI I ever used.
The ip4s is pretty smooth too... but I'd trade a tiny bit of smoothness for the sheer possibilities with Android.... but I have to say I was really quite impressed with WP7.

Was using my mobile clocked down to 500 mhz.. as a downside my go launcher started to lag like anything, switched to stock TW, to my total disbelief, the stock launcher is insanely smooth even when downclocked to 500 mhz. Stock launcher is purely hardware accelerated for sure.

I use hyperdroid which uses a build.prop tweak to enable hardware acceleration. Now even if i place go launcher's apk in system/app folder, still i cant see it running as smoothly as touchwiz. So is that tweak really working with other launchers. I deleted original touchwiz and rebooted but still go launcher lags a lot as comapared to tw. Anyone knows what exactly that tweak does?
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