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What programs are safe to remove?

Hey guys,
I permarooted my phone yesterday, and got rid of amazon mp3 via titanium back up. There's so much more I want to get rid of, but I don't want to delete something essential to the ROM resulting in force closures forever.
I wouldn't mind so much if I was using some sort of recovery with the complete ROM zip in my SD card.
Back to the point, what can we safely delete?

just back up the apps before you uninstall them, then if you have any issues you can just put it back

I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.

thebitjockey said:
I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.
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I thought TB did in fact backup system apps. Maybe when I did it with TB it wasn't really backing them up, but it gave me the option to do it so I did. Figured I would back up the system apps to the ROM in case it was somewhat difficult to un-root if needed.

TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.

floepie said:
TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.
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But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?

I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Same here no issues.

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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For me, it backed them up and I did see the compressed files. Upon further examination, the compressed files were empty.
What someone else said is true, it does backup the data but it does not backup the app yet it will delete the apps APK files from the /system/app directory. Basically, no way to restore them.

freeze an app first... make sure you get no FC or problems...
then delete it

mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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TB can backup only system app data, that is data from the apps built into the ROM. It does however back up both user apps themselves (elective apps you download) in addition to their data.

Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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21productionz said:
Same here no issues.
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I think he just wants to know which apps everyone removed to avoid any issues a head a time.... like a list of what you removed if your not having any issues whats so ever...
I havent got a OTA yet so I cant remove anything either way but if your still waiting to get confirmation on whats def safe to remove Ill let you know when I do it

^^ Great, thanks. There are so many threads and questions about bloatware, methods of removing said bloatware, and which ones are safe to remove.
A running list would be great, and I suggest that additional posts be more specific to assist the more timid amongst us. Thanks.

Could someone be kindly enough to explain what is this permarooted thing for? I did a search and there's guide on how to do permaroot only. and yes I r a nub, my first android. :X

can someone compile a list of safe things to remove?

Please post questions in Q&A section.

I took out a few things yesterday and found out two important things:
1) Even after removing Facebook for Mytouch you cannot add a Facebook sync account using the market Facebook app.
2) Titanium will not restore apps like Peep or Facebook for Mytouch. It lists it as backed up, but there is no option to restore. ('restore all apps and system data' yielded the same results)
There was an alternate FB app out there for a while that fixed the sync issue, but for myself I just reverted to my nandroid backup.
However, aside from the issue above, I experienced no issues on the phone after removing:
Facebook for Mytouch
Peep
News sync
News
Asphalt, RB, etc
I think I removed a few others but don't want to guess at names and spread misinformation.
May I suggest someone compile a list and create a stickie topic for it?
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^^ Yeah, well Titanium cannot backup system apps, and therefore, cannot restore them! It only backs up and restores their data.

@Hinouchi
Rooting is the process of, basically, gaining full access to make changes to your phone.
Permarooting is a term used specifically relating to the G2 and Mytouch, which were "designed" to revert changes such as rooting after the phone is rebooted. Permaroot is a process by which you bypass this manufacturer "safety feature" and obtain *perma*nent *root* access.
I suspect you may find a better explanation on Wikipedia, but that's the gist of it.
EDIT: No worries on the content of your question, we're all "n00bs" at something
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@floepie
So it would seem! Though I don't recall ever seeing that in what documentation there is for the app.
I'll look again and email the dev if I can't find anything.
There are certainly other ways to backup/restore those apps, but the capability to do so in Ti would be some kind of awesomesauce
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Removing bloatware

I have tried to remove some of the bloatware (blockbuster,trialware,vzw junk) with no luck .I have tried both deleting the apk or renaming to .old in root explorer and as soon as I reboot it comes back. I know I have root because I have ran setcpu and other apps requiring root. Is thete anything I need to do differently? I am coming from the original Droid.
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I would not recommend removing the bloatware entirely, but instead buy Titanium Backup pro. With that, you can freeze the apps so they can't be seen or used, but if and when we get an update, you won't have to worry about trying to find the right files.

Bloat
I have rooted using Z4 and removed bloatware using Titanium with no problems.

My purpose in removing the bloatware would be to save battery, memory, space and not to have stuff running in the background I do not want or need. I don't really want to flash a ROM. Is there a way yet to remove the VZ stuff after rooting?

I would use Titanium Backup and freeze those programs. If you remove them completely, you won't be able to install OTA updates, like the looming Froyo one.

Thanked. Now freezing means they are still there and take up space but not memory or battery life? They are not running?

y0himba said:
Thanked. Now freezing means they are still there and take up space but not memory or battery life? They are not running?
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Yes, that's what it is. Freezing them in Titanium backup essentially removes them, but leaves the files in place. You won't be able to access anything that is frozen outside of Titanium Backup until it is thawed. When you get a notification about an update, just thaw all the frozen apps, and update away.

I do a similar thing. I change the file name to name.apk.bak so it doesn't appear. But leaves it if I want to restore.

xmguy said:
I do a similar thing. I change the file name to name.apk.bak so it doesn't appear. But leaves it if I want to restore.
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I read elsewhere that if you just rename the files to .apk.bak they reappear on a reboot.
Also, I am looking for a way to remove the Bing garbage, hopefully a batch process of some sort to replace it all with Google.
The D17 ROM looks nice but it also appears development was just stopped while it was still beta? I cannot find a good explanation of how to get the ROM on there. I keep seeing "Odin" but cannot find the latest version download link and there are no tutorials on how to use it.

If you don't know how to use odin you shouldn't bother with flashing 0_o one mistake in there and you can easily be done.......
Also, if by DL17 CLEAN ROM, then you can rest assured it works fine.. There are no bugs..
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Aye, you are correct, I have no idea what to do with Odin. That's pretty much the reason I didn't want to flash a ROM. With a WinMo phone flashing a ROM is easy...I am completely n00b with Android.
The only reason I would flash it is the whole "CLEAN" thing. I would prefer to achieve that effect without the need to flash. Rooting my new phone was nerve wracking enough, but I got it done due to these forums. :thumbsup:

You could always use Launcher Pro and just hide the apps.
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Lol, I got your back man.... If you ever want to flash a rom or need help with odin, just pm or something...
When it comes to odin, as long as your connection is guaranteed, and you use **pda** instead of **phone** you should be golden... Even if something does go wrong, it is really hard to brick samsung phones xP
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Deodex an existing ROM?

Hi folks,
I think I know the answer to this already but I'm asking anyway just in case... is it possible to deodex a device as-is? Meaning, if I have stock EI22 installed, can it be deodexed in place?
I'd like to be able to run K0nane's CIQ remover script but its only for deodexed ROMs and I'm real happy with the stability & config of my phone now so flashing a new ROM and setting everything up again is an idea that doesn't thrill me.
Thanks,
Frank

No. Use a back up app to save system settings and apps, and flash the desired rom.

fzammetti said:
Hi folks,
I think I know the answer to this already but I'm asking anyway just in case... is it possible to deodex a device as-is? Meaning, if I have stock EI22 installed, can it be deodexed in place?
I'd like to be able to run K0nane's CIQ remover script but its only for deodexed ROMs and I'm real happy with the stability & config of my phone now so flashing a new ROM and setting everything up again is an idea that doesn't thrill me.
Thanks,
Frank
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You can flash the stock deodexed rom found in the development forum
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Then do an advanced restore of /data and everything will be just how you had it.
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Could you please explain that last part, doing an advanced restore of /data? How would you do that? (I'm new.)
I'm with the original poster -- flashing a ROM and then having to reinstall apps and set up everything again isn't exactly the most appealing thing. And if I want to change ROMs for any reason, I'd have to do it all again (right?). If there is some relatively quick and easy way to restore things to make that process easier, I'd like to know more about it. So far, it seems like using Titanium Backup or the like is what most people suggest, but if there's another option, it would be good to know it as well. Thanks.

If you're rooted and have clockworkMod installed as your custom recovery you can copy and "image" of the phone system and data drives. (System and data are on separate partitions, like a c:\> and d:\> drives on a computer. You can use clockworkMod to just restore the data image back to the data partition and it will be just like you had it. Icons on your home screen, your place in angry birds, alarms, vol. Settings. It is a wonderful thing to have, even if you just want stock.

Thanks for the info. I did recently root my phone and have the ACS recovery installed, so I should be able to do this if needed/wanted. Not to sidetrack the original thread too much, but are there any particular pros or cons to this method? It seems a bit easier, but would there be reasons to prefer something like Titanium Backup over this type of data restore? I'm not very familiar with these sorts of things (this is my first time rooting), so I'm trying to make sure I understand the options and what they do. Thanks.

In the case the OP states it would be nearly identical roms so there should be little to no conflict with a data restore. I've been moveing my data. Like this from froyo EC05 thru all the leaks and now to offical GB. But if I didn't want to stay on a leaked GB and I wanted to move to a froyo rom or back to stock I would use my titanium to move a few apps at a time bec,ause the data in gb is a little differnt and might not migrate proper.

Best bloatware remover for a rooted SM-G935T?

Hello mates, I am new to XDA and first and foremost I want thank to thank all contributors and developers for providing amazing tricks, tutorials, and features for all device users.
I own an S7 Edge under T-Mobile carrier (SM-G935T) and last time I tried to remove bloatware/system apps using Titanium Backup I believe I deleted necessary system apps that I shouldn't have deleted.
So my question for you guys is:
What app should I use or which app is the BEST out there that will help me disable ALL UNNECESSARY BLOATWARE without messing up the phone? I've heard of System App Remover Pro, Titanium Backup... but I don't know if Titanium itself would do the work. (I believe I could if I could get a list of Bloatware that can be removed with no problem)
Thank you guys, any help will be appreciated.

Just Google what each package does and then use titanium to freeze/uninstall them
If it sounds important then it most likely is
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FNGHobo said:
Just Google what each package does and then use titanium to freeze/uninstall them
If it sounds important then it most likely is
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Thank you amigo! Will do that right now

purotijuana said:
Thank you amigo! Will do that right now
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Honestly, I'd stay away from something as invasive as Titanium backup these days. If you do use it use the freeze feature (Only paid version).
They way I did it, I simply went into App Manager and disable natively anything that I could. For system Apps that won't allow me to disable that I know I can safely disable without screwing things up (not very many anymore) I use Package Disabler Pro from the Play Store. You can safely enable and disable system Apps.

Best way to get rid of bloat is install the u firmware.
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Don't bother uninstalling system app bloats, just freeze with titanium backup. if you screwed up and froze the wrong file you can always unfreeze. Uninstalling won't get you any extra storage since you can't install user apps in the system partition anyways.

maximus96 said:
Don't bother uninstalling system app bloats, just freeze with titanium backup. if you screwed up and froze the wrong file you can always unfreeze. Uninstalling won't get you any extra storage since you can't install user apps in the system partition anyways.
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Titanium backup is a nice way to go, but you need root.
I have seen Remove ALL Bloatware from any Android Smartphone without Root
ADB for Windows is a nice way to start.
You can google that as well.
I want to remove the bloat myself, but I am wait for 7 to drop then start cleaning house.
Good luck to ya! :good:

serendipityguy said:
Titanium backup is a nice way to go, but you need root.
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Well yes of course, the OP requested best remover for rooted S7E. If not rooted, the recommendation would have been for EZ Package Disabler or equivalent.

[Q] Using Titanium Backup Pro to Restore data from my S6. Then maybe freeze stuff?

Ok, so just wanted to check with others here who have used TB for a long time. I do have the pro version. I am just used to being rooted before I restore between one phone to another.
So I have my backups from my S6 and I want to move them over to my S8 now. Cept S8 isnt rooted. Anyone know any potential issues with the new version of android and TB or anything for me to make note of before just blind restoring?
Also The freeze and chuck norris mode. Anyone tried TB for blocking OTA and other bloatware yet on their S8?
Thanks.

There's no root on the s8 so no one tried anything yet, you can try using smart switch to see if it'll move apps with data or use helium since it can handle data also.

Moving apps and data is generally just a recipe for trouble. People often find that things crash or use loads of battery power for no reason when moving apps and settings. It MIGHT work ok, but the safest way to guarantee no hard to diagnose issues is to let the play store reinstall the apps and data that it has saved and then manually reinstall the rest.

Well with TB Restore. Did it HAVE to be rooted to work? Thats the part I cant remember.

Mysticales said:
Well with TB Restore. Did it HAVE to be rooted to work? Thats the part I cant remember.
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TB wont work at all without root.

Mysticales said:
Ok, so just wanted to check with others here who have used TB for a long time. I do have the pro version. I am just used to being rooted before I restore between one phone to another.
So I have my backups from my S6 and I want to move them over to my S8 now. Cept S8 isnt rooted. Anyone know any potential issues with the new version of android and TB or anything for me to make note of before just blind restoring?
Also The freeze and chuck norris mode. Anyone tried TB for blocking OTA and other bloatware yet on their S8?
Thanks.
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It happened the same to me with other phones, I can give you a recommendation:
Try only to Backup USER APPS because the system's app & data are incompatible with other Roms & with other phones.... Just Backup and restore user apps and then you'll have to configure system apps again, because of the incompatibility. Also, there are some apps that can only be used in determined Roms and/or determined Android version (some apps for example, are compatible with Jelly Bean but Incompatible with KitKat or the reverse of this, etc. and so...)

Good news is.. Root is now here.