No AT&T/ T-Mobile merger. - Vibrant General

Seems At&T has withdrawn for the time being.
Gizmodo article http://gizmodo.com/5863594/fcc-turns-the-screwsreleases-damning-report-on-withdrawn-attt+mobile-merger
Full FCC staff analysis findings http://transition.fcc.gov/transaction/ATT-TMO-redacted-PDF-final.pdf Skip to item #266 on page 111 for FCC recommendations.
For now we can all breath a sigh of relief (those of us who opposed the deal/AT&T).

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i wouldn't say that yet, still possible.

Yes, I've read that it's not the end of it(but I really doubt this will pass through).

Yeah but DTC wants out of the US so somebody has to buy it. I'm glad that someone isnt at&t, I hope a big tech company like Google picks it up though. Can you guys imagine how awesome they would be?

junglerumble said:
Yeah but DTC wants out of the US so somebody has to buy it. I'm glad that someone isnt at&t, I hope a big tech company like Google picks it up though. Can you guys imagine how awesome they would be?
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I could make a long list of companies I would rather see acquire T-Mo than AT&T. Quite frankly just about any other company would be ok with only two or three that come to mind that probably wouldn't be such a good idea.

I would love to see google but t-mobile maybe then they would sell the prime

They are already working on Plan B which would be a Joint-Venture...

junglerumble said:
Yeah but DTC wants out of the US so somebody has to buy it. I'm glad that someone isnt at&t, I hope a big tech company like Google picks it up though. Can you guys imagine how awesome they would be?
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You know. For wanting to get out of the USA they sure aren't being very successful. If the deal went through they would get 8% of AT&T stocks, which would make them the single biggest shareholder. Which means they could push things around to get AT&T to adopt more of the T-mobile policies and ideology. I'm not for the merger but there are some pluses. Just hate AT&T and their overcharging plans.
Google + T-mobile = G-mobile!!

Google just needs to purchase T-Mobile Google knows how to be under dog then rise to top we all know the story
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I like the sound of G-Mobile!

Got an Android device? Free Internet for you!
Ok ok I know that's stupid, but I would love Google to acquire T-Mobile too.
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farewell Nexus S General

i will have plenty of time to handle, talk about, and play with the Nexus S at work. I will not settle for T-Mobile quality coverage so I will not own it.
Unless the AT&T variant drops right away as well...which is nowhere in sight. If it drops 3 months later like i had to wait for N1...i will be abandoning the Nexus line and will replace with my N1 with something else....in 3 months an AT&T Nexus S will be a waste.
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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That is the most ignorant statement I have heard all day. I can understand and respect if T-Mobile service is not good where you are and hence you don't want it, but to assume only people with credit issues use T-Mobile reflects very poorly on the person making such a statement.
so basically this whole post is to just call T-Mobile crap? okay.
Well at least on T-Mobile i can make phone calls which is more than anyone can say about AssT&T
At&t is way overrated. I feel lucky to be where I am at.
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When I heard the news my parents were switching to tmobile I was ecstatic for two reasons. Nexus s just got announced and no more of at&t and their nuthugging of apple.
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color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you,
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LOL people like you amaze me
BTW this nexus s section isn't even a week old why even post a farewell
demo23019 said:
LOL people like you amaze me
BTW this nexus section isn't even a week old why even post a farewell
EDIT
ADMIN need to move thank you button i want to quote and now im always hitting this new thanks button
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I don't see "thanks" button because I use classic theme (I don't want to see the online members' list occupy half of the page).
I guess OP wanted to insult T-Mobile by complaining NS doesn't have 850/1900 UMTS this time.
Back to pre-2009 before N900 came to market, many T-Mobile users *****ed like crazy for no unlocked phones with AWS 3G support.
Wasn't AT&T JUST rated the WORST carrier in the country?
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Wasn't AT&T JUST rated the WORST carrier in the country?
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yup! AssT&T wins again. and by win i mean lose.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704156304576003423395003238.html
I may hate the iPhone, but i can't wait till it leaves AT&T and goes to Verizon. Watch AT&T lose 30 Million subscribers in a day.
don't let the door hit you on the way out champ. And don't bother making a thread when you do come back either.
cpcrazyfly said:
i will have plenty of time to handle, talk about, and play with the Nexus S at work. I will not settle for T-Mobile quality coverage so I will not own it.
Unless the AT&T variant drops right away as well...which is nowhere in sight. If it drops 3 months later like i had to wait for N1...i will be abandoning the Nexus line and will replace with my N1 with something else....in 3 months an AT&T Nexus S will be a waste.
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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There's always the best Galaxy s phone, the Epic, on sprint
Working for Best Buy Mobile, I deal with costumers from all providers. And I must say AT&T is making harder on themselves. Their customer support has gotten worse, their policies are more strict. They are losing customers left and right. And many of them are ready to jump to VRZ, not just because of the iPhone either. I have T-Mobile, never had a dropped call. I had Cingular/ATT before, and it was drop call after drop call. I live in Philadelphia, and around it's suburbs. AT&T better fix their act. Even Virgin Mobile's 25$ 300minutes with unlimited text/web is looking better now. And they are getting Android phones now too Not to mention ATT's phone lineup is based around the iPhone to reign supreme.
Excellent statement. Totally agree with you.
AVonGauss said:
That is the most ignorant statement I have heard all day. I can understand and respect if T-Mobile service is not good where you are and hence you don't want it, but to assume only people with credit issues use T-Mobile reflects very poorly on the person making such a statement.
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Just another example of XDA troll's that pop along and make a statement and dont even hang around to back it up. I live in London and even here we know about AT&T's terrible service in the states....
Im with T-Mobile in the UK and i must say they are fantastic, easily the best UK carrier by a mile)
So its a shame you had to breathe to say farewell, wait.... It was a shame you breathed at all, lol
Now don't come back ya'hear;P
Go buy an iPhone and live in blissful ignorance
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Just another example of XDA troll's that pop along and make a statement and dont even hang around to back it up. I live in London and even here we know about AT&T's terrible service in the states....
Im with T-Mobile in the UK and i must say they are fantastic, easily the best UK carrier by a mile)
So its a shame you had to breathe to say farewell, wait.... It was a shame you breathed at all, lol
Now don't come back ya'hear;P
Go buy an iPhone and live in blissful ignorance
JD
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T-Mobile is fast and reliable in NYC though my daily experience of voice and internet.
mingkee said:
T-Mobile is fast and reliable in NYC though my daily experience of voice and internet.
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There is no better choice in NYC. Great voice quality and a solid reliable data network that handles peak usage times and locations better then any of the competition. (VZW also handles them well, but with slower data)
cpcrazyfly said:
maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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As a (presumed) Best Buy employee, I'm sure you are exactly the kind of ambassador the company wants providing representation of them, here at XDA.
Nice job disparaging both your customers AND T-Mobile, all in a single lame post! ...... Classy!!!
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The guy is a total lameo, he comes on here, says something completely idiotic and runs off. Like a total pranny.
I would have had more respect for the **** if he hung around and backed up his claims with hard evidence and a thought provoking argument. But alas, i think this dude needs to go back to pre school and learn how to communicate.
JD

T-mobile customers--sign the petition!

If you love TMo and want to keep it away from the Death Star, SIGN!!!!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
nice idea...but seriously do these things even get anywhere?
presence06 said:
nice idea...but seriously do these things even get anywhere?
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It's called slacktivism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism
And no, it doesn't.
Waste of TIME! I personally think it would be a good thing. Bigger/Biggest network to start, not like TMO employees would go anywhere, they'd still be there except working for AT&T, might teach AT&T CSR's a thing or two. Just my opinion though, and personally I don't that petition will amount to anything other than wishful thinking. I could/may be wrong but I don't think so.
Doesn't hurt
personally, I'm so mad about this I don't want to have a phone in 12 months if att/sprint/vw are the only options. Meh, take it as you will--just re-posting jIC.
If you want a petition that actually stands a tiny chance of going somewhere, try to get Google to buy T-Mobile. AT&T doesn't give a **** what some developers on an Android forum think. Google does, since this group of people helps expand their OS.
39 million is at stake here. Think about that.
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It's better wrote to congress, you know.
I signed it. I guess I'm an optimist, but I feel like anything I can try to prevent the merger should be done. You never truly know if it will work or not, and maybe the FCC and DOJ will actually listen to the people. But obviously my opinion differs from pretty much everybody else on XDA.
I thought it was 39 billion.
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domtru said:
39 million is at stake here. Think about that.
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thats Billion.....................
found the following and it might be helpful (maybe):
http://www.cell-phone-towers.com/will-the-att-merger-with-tmobile-help-consumers.html
AT&T doesn't care about customers. Sure it will be nice to claim most wireless customers in the US, but the real reason they're buying T-Mobile is for wireless spectrum. 39B USD is a nice deal for added wireless spectrum and the added customers is a nice bonus.
Write/call your congressional representative or the FCC. It'll mean more than signing an internet petition.
would there be a way to actually get out of contract BEFORE the merger starts without paying ETF because of this move?
wrote my congressmen about this I wonder if I will get any kind of response from them about it.
i like the idea...
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wrote my congressmen about this I wonder if I will get any kind of response from them about it.
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http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=AT&T+Inc&year=2010
AT&T is just a little behind Verizon in contributions.
The list of recipients for their donations is also quite long.
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=2010&id=D000000076
And match up nicely with the House committee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Energy_and_Commerce
signed! screw at&t!
Million. Haha. Yeah, billion! No voice is that loud.
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/shrugs/
If AT&T/T-Mo doesn't merge Verizon will have almost a monopoly on LTE becuase they gobbled up so much spectrum and will have such big coverage.
Sprint pretty much sacked themselves with the WiMax bull****. That was a bad move and it didn't really benefit them in the long-run, IMO, since GSM networks were able to upgrade to HSPA+ so quickly and cheaply (software upgrade) and rival their WiMax speeds (which is expensive to build out, not to mention those WiMax phones have terribad battery life when using 4G).
Sprint is complaining. Verizon doesn't care.
Do I care? No. I need at least 3G where I live and no carrier has it here yet, except AT&T. They're the only ones around here who are building their network out in rural areas. T-Mobile's network is too small. It's terribad for people who travel, too.
I hope this happens sooner than later. AT&T has better phones as well. And I've never had any CS issues with them...

Stop the T-Mobile - AT&T merger

We all love our T-Mobile service, lets try and do something about it sign the petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/
EDIT: fixed link.
also found the following that could be helpful:
http://www.cell-phone-towers.com/will-the-att-merger-with-tmobile-help-consumers.html
adinis78 said:
We all love our T-Mobile service, lets try and do something about it sign the petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/sto...bought-by-att/
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Or you could do something useful like write, email and call your congressman.
you cant stop it.
and your link doesnt work
skdubg said:
you cant stop it.
and your link doesnt work
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It's possible if enough people let their representatives know they don't like it. But they won't. They never do. And there hasn't been a government with a spine in this country for 20+ years so it'll probably "force" AT&T to make some petty concession in return for the bazillions it'll make off it's substandard service and that'll be that. Americans are self-centered and lazy and you can take that to the bank. AT&T sure will. I mean really, an online petition? Does it get any lazier than that?
Since they aren't breaking any law, there won't ever be a government response.
And nice job with the insulting comments.
Whether they break antitrust laws or not will be decided by DOJ and FCC.
After reading
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-fewer-choices-once-att-swallows-t-mobile.ars
I feel very bad.
Good bye choices, prepare for higher prices and "innovation" that profits only ATT shareholders.
If att does not let me keep a month to month plan once my contract is over with tmo,if they merge, then i will prob go with metropcs or maybe simple mobile so att can look forward to loosing my $170 a month.
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Simple Mobile will sease to exist with T-mobile demise because it is a Tmo reseller.
It won't be any choices but go to Big brothers.
AT&T put billions at stake and they will pay their way unless people raise their voice.
Adapt0r said:
Simple Mobile will sease to exist with T-mobile demise because it is a Tmo reseller.
It won't be any choices but go to Big brothers.
AT&T put billions at stake and they will pay their way unless people raise their voice.
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Ahhh crap so i guess metropcs would be my only other choise
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Just think about most cases like this, big companies buying big companies out. When has a petition ever stopped it? I agree that its a bit crappy for US people but I Ruby there's anything that can be done abut it.
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rangercaptain said:
Since they aren't breaking any law, there won't ever be a government response.
And nice job with the insulting comments.
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Yes, there will a response because of anti-trust and monopoly laws and prove me wrong about the rest of it. There are entire business models based on the lack of attention and laziness of consumers in this country. Rebates, for example. On the surface you wonder how anyone makes any real money with them but they do because so many people are too lazy and distracted to mail them in. When they do, the first hitch that comes along is the end of it because they don't want to have to pick up the phone and talk to someone. Hell, look at all the questions on here that ask if there's an online way to do something because they don't want to have to pick up a phone and talk to someone. Whining about it doesn't make it less true.
markgamber said:
Yes, there will a response because of anti-trust and monopoly laws and prove me wrong about the rest of it.
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There won't be any of that - you can take your business to Sprint, Verizon, Boost, etc.
Why the venom? Take the edge off!
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Yes, there will a response because of anti-trust and monopoly laws and prove me wrong about the rest of it. There are entire business models based on the lack of attention and laziness of consumers in this country. Rebates, for example. On the surface you wonder how anyone makes any real money with them but they do because so many people are too lazy and distracted to mail them in. When they do, the first hitch that comes along is the end of it because they don't want to have to pick up the phone and talk to someone. Hell, look at all the questions on here that ask if there's an online way to do something because they don't want to have to pick up a phone and talk to someone. Whining about it doesn't make it less true.
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People are over reacting. Show me the anti-trust violation/monopoly violation. People will talk, then after a few weeks it'll be back to Charlie Sheen and his tiger blood, or Lindsay Lohan dropping her last name. Just chill. We'll all be grandfathered into our plans, and we'll be given the choice to update to AT&T when the time comes, or we'll be stuck with what we have. *shakes head at the American People these days*
Well look at the Ma Bell monopoly and innovation that came after breaking it up. Hope it not to much to ask
You think a bunch of people who don't want the merger is going to affect big CEOs who want to make millions is going to change anyone's mind? IF and say again, IF you got 10,000 people to sign a petition, do you think they care? 10,000 people who use T-mobile is nothing compared to the millions that have contracts with them. Your wasting your time. its not about better service or customer support and benefit. Its about M-O-N-E-Y. Always is and always will be. You mean nothing to a major corporation.

Tmobile reps and their stories

Ok so I went to a tmo store and ask when will they roll out the update and one told me in august. however someone here said reps told him the update will roll out in the end of june. Any one really know when will the update roll out?
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ultma75 said:
Wrong thread...
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+1 why is this in the development section ?
What does sales have to do with Rom development. This is getting old. I think only senior members or devs be able to post threads in development section. Sorry
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313dash said:
What does sales have to do with Rom development. This is getting old. I think only senior members or devs be able to post threads in development section. Sorry
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The sad thing is he is a senior member you'd think he'd know better by now... oh well
I'm pretty new to xda, and I have low posts, and the way I see it is I'm no dev, so I don't need to start a thread, I enjoy commenting though and random threads in the dev section annoy me too, so I agree + 1 for us noobs not needing to start new threads in dev
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The really sad thing is that people listen or even care what tmo "reps" think or say.... they don't know anymore then what you can find on the net.
P.s. wrong section!
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It's possible he just happened to click the wrong sub-section.
Mybad I was gonna post it in G2 general section but I though I did click that one sorry. And about that they said that tmo always will wait to see how it is in the sensation and than roll out the update by august
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shortlived said:
The really sad thing is that people listen or even care what tmo "reps" think or say.... they don't know anymore then what you can find on the net.
P.s. wrong section!
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Well yu gotta listen to someone and tmo is the one who provided me the phone so one should expect them to know about their own stuff more than anyone else and even the internet
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androidfeen809 said:
Well yu gotta listen to someone and tmo is the one who provided me the phone so one should expect them to know about their own stuff more than anyone else and even the internet
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Not exactly. I used to work for T-Mobile. I used to find out about new phones on Google faster then through T-Mobile. I don't want to say anything bad but most reps don't know anything.
A T-Mobile rep at Best Buy told me my G2 wasn't capable of 4G speeds... In other words never trust rep talk. Just look it up here or some decent website like Pocketnow.
This thread's stories remind me of that newegg.com commercial where that sales rep is clueless on laptop specs.
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This thread's stories remind me of that newegg.com commercial where that sales rep is clueless on laptop specs.
Sent from a Western Union telegram.
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That reminds me of my trip to Best-Buy the other day. Associate tried to tell me the HP Dre Beats laptop was more powerful for gaming because it came with a mini-subwoofer. I do not kid.
Kevinik said:
A T-Mobile rep at Best Buy told me my G2 wasn't capable of 4G speeds... In other words never trust rep talk. Just look it up here or some decent website like Pocketnow.
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As strange as it seems to you, he was actually correct. 4G was intended to mean LTE-ADVANCED, something like 100 Mbps.
But a bunch of the douchebag carriers started marketing their services as "4G" even though they didn't come ANYWHERE NEAR that.... so 4G was re-defined to be nothing more than HSPA (or equivalent). Basically, 3G and 4G are the same thing now.
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As strange as it seems to you, he was actually correct. 4G was intended to mean LTE-ADVANCED, something like 100 Mbps.
But a bunch of the douchebag carriers started marketing their services as "4G" even though they didn't come ANYWHERE NEAR that.... so 4G was re-defined to be nothing more than HSPA (or equivalent). Basically, 3G and 4G are the same thing now.
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If that is the case...Then all of the carriers are lying. None of the company's that are saying "4G" are hitting 100Mbps. The rep from Best-Buy didn't know what he was talking about. He didn't mean LTE-Advanced either. He was just trying to sound like he knew what he was talking about. We know what true "4G" is but for now we have to settle with the "4G" that is given to us.
LOL Yeah I really like the T-Mo reps... really nice people and never had a bad experience... but most of them know nothing of their products. To be fair, I think many of these people don't really have a "passion" for this stuff as most of us obviously do, so to them its likely a job and a paycheck. I remember when I got my MyTouch 3G, (my first smartphone) I asked a rep what the weird digitized blocks were on an app brochure, and he told me they were typos, most likely blobs of ink from the printers. Turns out they were QR codes.
I am a T-mobile sales rep. Corporate does not give front line employees info on release dates and software upgrades until the last possible moment. When the new rate plans started this past Sunday there were not any rateplan guides in stores.
I get more up to date info on from sites like xda and tmonews way before corporate releases it.
Go easy on reps that share what they have heard, they are trying to be helpful but rumors and are just that. I occasionally get info ahead of time from product reps (like HTC) but things change all the time.
Latest rumor making the rounds is the 2.3 ota for the g2 should be out next week.
We will see how that pans out.
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Ok so I went to a tmo store and ask when will they roll out the update and one told me in august. however someone here said reps told him the update will roll out in the end of june. Any one really know when will the update roll out?
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So what your saying is that you can't believe what a salesperson tells you. I really hope this isn't news to you. I have first hand experience with T-Mobile and their reps and I can tell you that they are for sure salespeople first and some just happen to care. They get information so slowly from Corporate it's kind of mind numbing. Anyone who frequents tech blogs knew about the AT&T merger before T-Mobiles employees. I called the person I know there and they had heard nothing about it. You think they care when the phone they sold you 8 months ago gets the update? Nope.
Technically that is the phone manufacturers domain. T-Mobile really has nothing to do with it. Why do you think it takes 2 years for Samsung to update the Galaxy line which is on multiple carriers. Just Sayin.

US Justice Dept files lawsuit trying to block AT&T / TMOBUS Merger!!!

Uh looks like the merger might not be happening after all! Wow big news. The Sprint / TMOBUS may happen if this falls through.
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I am satisfied by this
Sad news indeed.
wow... this is EXCELLENT news.
what's really saddening to me, though, is that I truly believed that my government would allow for this merger to occur. that says a lot about my faith in those who I've elected to represent my country. oh well, at least (for once), it looks like the gov't will be favoring the people over big business... that's refreshing.
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Sad news indeed.
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This is good news for us T-MO users! We don't want AT&T bringing their bad customer service over here and their shoddy rate plans and bad business. If they win, then AT&T users will benefit more, leaching from tmobile's data network. Let att expand by themselves no one wants to be forced into something they didn't pay for. Plus if they join, they'll be too many Iphones clogging the data streams, slowing down the HD video calls, people rarely use.
FYI this does not make the deal completely dead yet, the FCC would still have to rule on it! So this merger still has a chance, just not a good one.
I myself am really hoping this deal goes through!
shogunmark said:
FYI this does not make the deal completely dead yet, the FCC would still have to rule on it! So this merger still has a chance, just not a good one.
I myself am really hoping this deal goes through!
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We'll both hope.
shogunmark said:
FYI this does not make the deal completely dead yet, the FCC would still have to rule on it! So this merger still has a chance, just not a good one.
I myself am really hoping this deal goes through!
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They need to hurry it up and just cancel this already, this will leave only AT&T as the main provider for GSM phones in the US! That's not a good thing, there will be less variety for the consumer and less competition for AT&T....AT&T went down the drain as soon as it brought Cingular back in the day, I would never use them again, I rather go back to Sprint. We'll be stuck with limited data, high rates, high rates, and extremely high taxes and rates. Why can't DTE or whatever realize this isn't good for competition and the consumers?
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We are certainly the minority!
Ace42 said:
They need to hurry it up and just cancel this already, this will leave only AT&T as the main provider for GSM phones in the US! That's not a good thing, there will be less variety for the consumer and less competition for AT&T....AT&T went down the drain as soon as it brought Cingular back in the day, I would never use them again, I rather go back to Sprint.
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AT&T never actually bought Cingular. Cingular was part of the AT&T conglomerate all along. The only thing that was done was a name change from Cingular to AT&T. If you go into the APN settings of an AT&T phone, you'll still see the Cingular name.
But Cingular did buy out Cellular One.
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We are certainly the minority!
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...because it is blatantly anti-competitive and a deal that was struck with no intention of bettering the industry with the consumer in mind.
I guess if you like kissing big businesses' asses and fanning their executives with exotic leaves while feeding them grapes from gold-plated platters this might be the type of merger you'd support, but other than that... really?
MartyLK said:
AT&T never actually bought Cingular. Cingular was part of the AT&T conglomerate all along. The only thing that was done was a name change from Cingular to AT&T. If you go into the APN settings of an AT&T phone, you'll still see the Cingular name.
But Cingular did buy out Cellular One.
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But Cingular merged and is now under AT&T, I'm sure they replaced the cingular employees during their take over, I'm sure the same will happen if T-mobile is taken too-even more people could end up w/o jobs. I'm aware if they acquire tmobile they'll expand 4G, and will create LTE stations in various areas, which is a good thing at least. But I don't like the rate plans being used by AT&T at all, to get my current plan renewed under AT&T would actually put me at a loss, and probably others that are on Prepaid/Flex-pay.
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...because it is blatantly anti-competitive and a deal that was struck with no intention of bettering the industry with the consumer in mind.
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I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
shogunmark said:
I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
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The network expansion and possible job creation are the only upsides to the acquisition here, but who wants to pay an arm and a leg for their plan? I made a dummy plan to compare rates, and unlimited on AT&T is way beyond 100, compared to the ~75[exc taxes] i've been paying on tmobile. I'm sure Sprint and verizon are cheaper than that too.
Ace42 said:
But Cingular merged and is now under AT&T, I'm sure they replaced the cingular employees during their take over, I'm sure the same will happen if T-mobile is taken too-even more people could end up w/o jobs. I'm aware if they acquire tmobile they'll expand 4G, and will create LTE stations in various areas, which is a good thing at least. But I don't like the rate plans being used by AT&T at all, to get my current plan renewed under AT&T would actually put me at a loss, and probably others that are on Prepaid/Flex-pay.
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Cingular didn't merge with itself. Cingular existed as an AT&T division all along. There was no change to Cingular other than the name change. Some time before the name change, Cingular did buy out Cellular One. CO was a completely different company and, no doubt, CO's employees were adjusted.
shogunmark said:
I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
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yep, so it benefits you, the AT&T customer, and screws everyone else... including people who have nothing to do with AT&T or T-MO.
guys, it's really simple:
less competition, worse for consumers. it's not rocket science.
shogunmark said:
I disagree, i am a consumer and it would definitely benefit me! Especially since i dont want to go to t-mo, but i sure do want their network!
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I wouldn't mind a list of bullet points as to why you think this merger benefits the consumer...
Not you, "the consumer".
AT&T would improve it's network? They had an opportunity to do that for $3.8 mil once before and didn't jump at the chance... they didn't care about YOU enough to build up the network they're already sitting on. The writing is on the wall here and even lowly simpletons can make out exactly what would happen... Rate plans = up (for both parties customers), Network = the same with the addition of "some" LTE stations which you may or may not be able to utilize fully and customer service would diminish. If you want the merger simply to utilize Tmobiles network, then go ahead and pay your ETF and jump ship... we don't have unlimited data anymore (in anticipation for this merger, gaurunteed) and the rates have slowly risen up and customer loyalty is already starting to fall.
"We'll add 5000 domestic jobs"....
yea, it's called slapping your ATT signs on existing T-Mobile call centers... lol.
The FCC would be amazing if they get behind this block and it all falls through. At least at that point Tmobile could die a slow death and THEN at&t can pick up the pieces, assuming Sprint doesn't come up with a miracle.
pmcqueen said:
yep, so it benefits you, the AT&T customer, and screws everyone else... including people who have nothing to do with AT&T or T-MO.
guys, it's really simple:
less competition, worse for consumers. it's not rocket science.
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But...but...they have the iPhone
pmcqueen said:
yep, so it benefits you, the AT&T customer, and screws everyone else... including people who have nothing to do with AT&T or T-MO.
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Believe it or not, i am not the only one, sure it benefits AT&T customers, but there are also T-MO people that were looking forward to it as well. So it doesnt screw everyone else!
MartyLK said:
Cingular didn't merge with itself. Cingular existed as an AT&T division all along. There was no change to Cingular other than the name change. Some time before the name change, Cingular did buy out Cellular One. CO was a completely different company and, no doubt, CO's employees were adjusted.
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Okay, so Cingular bought AT&T, and CO, then AT&T replaced Cingular name-wise later on?
http://news.consumerreports.org/ele...umer-reports-cell-phone-survey-att-worst.html
Look at that from last year, I've heard nothing but bad stories of the support from at&t, I don't want to experience it myself.

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