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The Arc is all set to get the Honeycomb Update

Like the title says, the xperia arc is promised to get the Honeycomb
Update, smashing rumours that dual core processors nd other **** is required to run Honeycomb.
Here is the link for more reading.
http://gizbuy.com/2011/01/07/sonys-arc-to-get-honeycomb-update-but-xperia-x10-lineup-to-miss-froyo/
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At the VIP event they also confirmed that 2.4 will be available very soon after Google releases it!

After experiencing with X1 and X2 and then X10 and knowing SE's incomplete support of their products, I would like to assume that ARC will come with 2.3 and die on 2.3 and I hope I stay with this assumption without putting any pressure on myself that why my phone doesn't do this or that
This is what SE has been promising over and over for every generation of their phones and they fail to deliver, don't believe it then go back and read SE history. This is their repetitions in failure for every device they put together.
But this won't stop me from buying the ARC.

The new phones are different. Google brings the OS, Qualcomm does almost all drivers, and SE does Timescape, the launcher, and a few smaller apps. Most of the customizations are just some reskins, and Timescape has no real integration with the rest of Android, making it a lot easier to update without causing problems. Sony Ericsson said yesterday in Brussels that they plan to at least keep updating for 1 year after release.
The X10 was different. It was SE's first Android device, and Timescape and Mediascape were heavily integrated with critical parts of Android. They've learned from their mistakes with the X10, the new ones will do much better!

I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??

We will be getting 2.4 (which still is Gingerbread but more optimized), after that 3.1 (Ice Cream) should follow, merging 2.4 and 3.0. As long as we get Ice Cream I'll be happy!

couple of points to the OP though.. That article was written in January.. and 3.0 is for tablets.. The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)

im_iceman said:
The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)
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2.4 will still be Gingerbread, and will mainly contain performance improvements for dualcores, but no major new features.

im_iceman said:
I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??
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tbf the most significant update has yet to come
GPU accelerated UI
Bring me that and I don't think I will need much more

http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..

im_iceman said:
http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..
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That article has no sources, and similar ones have been posted in january too. Sony Ericsson has already got 2.4 running on the Arc, people tried it, and it's not the Gingerbread-Honeycomb merge. 2.4 is still Gingerbread, and if the next release will not be Gingerbread2, we'll be seeing 3.1 next. There will be no more new codenames in the 2.x family.

Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,

Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
MJ_QaT said:
Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,
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<AdY> said:
Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
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No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?

I didn't know that they were outdated. When I checked it again , I realised the issue.
MJ_QaT said:
No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?
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well, i'm glad that i'll be taking arc, can't wait till 9th april

Ice cream Sandwich

All current gen Xperia models are going to be updated to Ice cream sandwich (Android 4.0) after October's 2.3.4 update!!!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...ted-to-Android-4.0-Ice-Cream-Sandwich_id21947
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Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game

subcu1ture said:
Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game
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They have always been underrated(especially to Nokia in the Balkans)...and I don't understand how they are losing money on the play....

They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets. It seems like management has turned a new leaf. 2012 will probably be the now or never come back year for sony ericsson. They own like 1.7%of the market shares as of July =/ the earthquake played a big role at affecting those figures though.
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That's awesome news!
Hopefully Verizon doesn't slow down that update for us r800x users...but I'm not holding my breath. (Of course, barring any complications with r800x development it won't matter to those of us lucky enough to have locked in root.)
On that note, gosh I hope SE doesn't go under. They are currently the only company offering anything resembling a vanilla android experience on Verizon.
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Deoxlar said:
They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets.
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like the SE Arc S

Looking forward to this, to be honest I've never really liked Honeycomb (Ice cream sandwich is a mobile version of honeycomb according to a friend), I just hope Sony keep their timescape UI in, I really like it.
p.s Cool name "ice cream sandwich"

The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch

It was a false alarm, Sony said they didn't make any decisions regarding this
phandroid.com/2011/09/08/ice-cream-sandwich-coming-to-all-2011-sony-ericsson-handsets/
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just like gingerbread on the x10, the COULD change their mind. so lets not give up hope too soon. i'm going to keep reserved on the news. neither getting too excited, but not dismissing it either. fingers crossed guys n gals

Read the article carefully... A London based small potatoes representative confirmed the 4.0 upgrade...... Not the ceo or any department head on charge of upgrades and firmware... Take the news with a grain of salt.... We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Now I'm confused..
Anyhow, If the new ICS will run great on our phone then that would be awesome..
I'm excited to know the full latest features, I'm excited to taste that new flavor..

I hope you all know that officially, sony have made no decision on if it will bring ICS to the 2011 range of experia devices.
Infact there current official stance is "When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...o-bring-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-devices/

Deoxlar said:
We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.

Cat_On_Droid said:
The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch
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Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..

brochador said:
Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..
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It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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AndroHero said:
It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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What about A and B?

speedyink said:
Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.
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It won't just be for dual core as they have to deliver it to the NS and that's single core. I had the X10 and waited ages for the 2.1 update only to be dissatisfied because of how slow and laggy it was, still custom ROM's made up for SE's crap.
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Its based on honeycomb correct? Can anyone name 1 tablet that has a single core and runs honeycomb natively?

Nook Color, if I recall properly. It uses the very same Honeycomb as "native" tablets.
Plus, I want to remind you that dual cores are still top of the line. The midrange and low range of new devices (think of Optimus Sol or Galaxy Ace) will have to be updated too...

Want Ice Cream Sandwich? Get it on your 2011 Xperia™ smartphone from mid-April

During Mobile World Congress I was lucky enough to taste an actual Ice Cream Sandwich (or two) at the Google booth, and you’ll all be able to experience this sweet software treat on our 2011 Xperia smartphones, starting with the first models from mid-April.
Our developers have been hard-at-work to ensure we’re on track and the highest standards are met to deliver you the best possible user experience on Xperia 2011 smartphones with the upgrade to Android 4.0 platform release.
The first Xperia models to receive the upgrade will be Xperia arc S, Xperia neo V and Xperia ray. For these first models, the rollout will start mid-April and continue over 4-6 weeks.*
Following on, Xperia arc, Xperia PLAY, Xperia neo, Xperia mini, Xperia mini pro, Xperia pro, Xperia active and Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman will receive their scoop starting from the end of May/early June.*
We’ll get back to you once the rollout begins to keep you in the loop with progress and to tackle any questions you might have – as I said, please don’t worry if your kit (customized software specific to your operator and handset) isn’t immediately accessible; they will be made available as soon as they’re ready to go.
The latest version of Android 4.0 is a very powerful OS, brimming with new features and functionality, but it also requires more resource from your smartphone and this may impact performance in some user scenarios. To ensure it’s suitable, and performs for your individual needs, my friends at Developer World have taken a closer-look at how Ice Cream Sandwich will change your 2011 Xperia smartphone – check it out here.
Because this update is a significant revamp of some of your phone’s features, we want to make sure you take a conscious and informed decision to upgrade, so that you continue to enjoy optimum experiences from your Xperia smartphone.
Therefore, we’ll only be making it available for download via PC Companion and Bridge for Mac (i.e. not over the air via 3G or WiFi), and you also won’t receive any update requests or notifications.
Again, we will get back to you with more information in mid-April when the rollout begins.
Finally, with regards to our all new Sony Xperia S, which will be upgraded to Android 4.0 starting from the later part of the second quarter, we will get back with more detailed information on timing over the next weeks.
Talk soon, Ant.
*The availability and scheduling of this software upgrade and specific models upgradeable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and carrier requirements.
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Thought it was worth posting, for the most of us Xperia Play users won't see full ICS until end of May early June? sigh =\

What??? A new date change??? Now end may/early June??? It was end april/early may!!!
Where is this info from?
Oh, and change the title. You are posting this info on the Xpera Play forum, so the date is not mid-april and makes people think the update will come earlier than expected.

Miles Wolf said:
What??? A new date change??? Now end may/early June??? It was end april/early may!!!
Where is this info from?
Oh, and change the title. You are posting this info on the Xpera Play forum, so the date is not mid-april and makes people think the update will come earlier than expected.
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It was posted 3 days ago by sony here: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...1-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/

Oh thanks, I've been a few days out without internet, that's why I didn't know about this.
This long wait is a bit too much. Now June...
I hate this update method from Android. It should be like Windows. I mean, an unique OS that installs only what it needs, without passing through the hands of another developer (Sony in this case). It's the worst point of Android.
And I repeat to the OP: better change the title of the thread.

i like this, takes it out of verizon's hand (as long as they make a CDMA version that is)
can't wait for the update, will be all over it!

Miles Wolf said:
What??? A new date change??? Now end may/early June??? It was end april/early may!!!
Where is this info from?
Oh, and change the title. You are posting this info on the Xpera Play forum, so the date is not mid-april and makes people think the update will come earlier than expected.
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It's the title of the document thought about changing to x play dates but i'd rather keep it the same as Sony

That title is so misleading man, what was the point of posting the article? We already know when ICS will come :S

So what does ICS actually bring to the table?
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It's the title of the document thought about changing to x play dates but i'd rather keep it the same as Sony
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Yes, it's the title of the document, but that document is for all Xperia users. We are at the Xperia Play forum, so don't post a title with the info of another Xperia because some people will misunderstand it.

Its only misleading if you only read the title and not the article, i'm not changing it, its no big deal geeeezzzz
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If i remember correctly it was January, then changed to march, then changed to april or may, and now its end of may or june. See a trend?

KindaUndisputed said:
So what does ICS actually bring to the table?
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For me the HW acceleration is the biggest deal, the browser is incredibly slick, compared to the old one... the UI has a cleaner look and the fonts are more readable, the mail client is a lot better as well.
I did notice the increased RAM usage right of the bat in the beta version but hopefully they'll have worked around this in the final release.

Looking forward to the release

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For me the HW acceleration is the biggest deal, the browser is incredibly slick, compared to the old one... the UI has a cleaner look and the fonts are more readable, the mail client is a lot better as well.
I did notice the increased RAM usage right of the bat in the beta version but hopefully they'll have worked around this in the final release.
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Yeah I hope RAM usage is sorted out and i'm sure the Sony Devs will find a way to fix it. Anyway I don't think the release is far off !

Insane PPC said:
i like this, takes it out of verizon's hand (as long as they make a CDMA version that is)
can't wait for the update, will be all over it!
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Dream on
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Android 5.0 , coming to the xperia Play?

I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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madman_amit said:
Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new

The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...

Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.

I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.

Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.

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Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.

@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.

I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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beez1717 said:
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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Thread closed until OP updates first post with non ad sponsored link.
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New Firmware listed for 2011 Xperia devices

Just read this and wanted to share.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/1...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)
"Sony has some new firmware on the horizon for the 2011 Xperia handsets. Firmware version number 4.1.B.1.13 is likely to be a new version of Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich. It has been certified for all 2011 handsets apart from the Xperia PLAY. We have no idea what improvements it will bring over the current firmware (4.1.B.0.587), but as it’s the first new firmware in months, we expect bug improvements and maybe some significant enhancements too. "
Source:
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=18648

A pity it won't be for the xperia play.

I've just learned to live with Gingerbread on this phone.
Went out and bought a 32GB microsd card and loaded it up with PS1 roms, stuck in the extended battery, and using it as a pure gaming device, with occasional phone calls

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A pity it won't be for the xperia play.
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The only good I can see from these updates woudl be in porting some of the new features (or all) to our phone. Otherwise I would agree with you. Plus, its nice to know that Sony is releasing a update for 2011 phones at the end of 2012.

"If" they do hav a stock Ics for our Play then it "should be" the best ics we can get. Coz its thier job & duty to giv the best to all sony consumer. I'll take it.
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Pissing me off the fact that we're stuck on gingerbread, I hate sony and will never buy another Sony again after they abandoned us on year old firmware.

Even though it is understandable with ICS being worse for gaming than GB..

iRhyiku said:
Even though it is understandable with ICS being worse for gaming than GB..
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This.
Honestly, we can get panoramas, notification toggles, data management, lock screen widgets and many other "improvements" of 4.x without 4.x... so I'd rather just keep the integrity of my gaming intact.

TLRtheory said:
This.
Honestly, we can get panoramas, notification toggles, data management, lock screen widgets and many other "improvements" of 4.x without 4.x... so I'd rather just keep the integrity of my gaming intact.
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All I want is google now...
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