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reply from SE regards "Froyo update on Xperia X10"

I posted the petition link on the Sony Ericsson UK and global Facebook sites and got the following reply from SE:
“Hi Mark, Thank you for your feedback regarding the Sony Ericsson X10’s Android upgrade.
We appreciate your feedback regarding this and have passed this on to the relevant department. We can confirm that this is something our developers are currently looking into and will provide further information once this is available.
Regards,
The Sony Ericsson Facebook Team
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There is hope guys

That does sound promising. To be fair, they couldn't have missed the huge reaction from their customers. Well over2000 responses to the petition already and it's only been a couple of days. Looking brighter?
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Hopefully that is the reason that the incremental upgrade which was due "a couple of weeks" from May 5th has not materialised. Hopefully their best bods are focussing on seeing if 2.2 is a possibility....
No doubt their developers have X10 phones andthemselves would like their phones to be running 2.2...

cashaw said:
Hopefully that is the reason that the incremental upgrade which was due "a couple of weeks" from May 5th has not materialised.
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... dont worry about that, this update was part of development for X10mini (pro), so we should see it in the next weeks.
and yes, 2.1 and NO 2.2 (froyo) brings only bad vibes for SE (and their future)

Something tells me that although the response sounds promising SE won’t change from their original plan. The 2000+ votes (As good as this is) only accounts for a fraction of the x10 owners out there.
Leaving out Froyo until a completely new line of phones can be used as a sell tool and a reason to adopt any new android phones they release where as if the x10 get the 2.2 now the new line would have to have more hardware advances to prove their worth increasing cost. Judging the hardware cut backs SE made with its flagship device most people can predict or assume the next wave of SE android phones will follow suit.
The petition needs to reach beyond the blogs to really make a difference, If the Japanese got wind of the petition and signed up that would really open SE eyes and i'm sure the speed increase of 2.2 would be enough to get them on board. Any ideas how?
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"

At the moment the link is also twittered strongly think that makes the difference.

almaqdad said:
I posted the petition link on the Sony Ericsson UK and global Facebook sites and got the following reply from SE:
“Hi Mark, Thank you for your feedback regarding the Sony Ericsson X10’s Android upgrade.
We appreciate your feedback regarding this and have passed this on to the relevant department. We can confirm that this is something our developers are currently looking into and will provide further information once this is available.
Regards,
The Sony Ericsson Facebook Team
”
There is hope guys
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No hope.
Just a standard message ...
Where did you see hope there?

Well, it is something that should have been done. Since this is the best SE phone in a long time, with a potential to get better.
So if they are choosing to apply this update... Then I would assume that I would be even more satisfied with my phone. But right now, is the thing that annoys me the most.. That I can't buy applications here in Norway yet.
And I can do it in Morocco, and that country isn't on the list either.

All I can say that 2.2 finally provides bluetooth functionality for voice dial.
In places where it is illegal to hold a cellphone while driving, voice dialing using bluetooth is an extremely useful function. Android devices have been lacking this since 1.5 cupcake. Google finally added full bluetooth functionality on 2.2. I hope SE does the right thing and updates the X10 to reflect this.
It is very annoying when Apple updates the Iphone constantly and Android phones are stuck on whichever hardware manufacturer schedule to make its phone unique (e.g. sense, timescape, touchflow).
I think Google has the correct idea of separating future updates from the unique modifications that the manufacturers want. But for that to happen, all phones have to reach 2.2. first.

i work in a bar in malmö, sweden which the nearest city to where se have a rather huge campus there, anyway, i got a saw a japenese guy with an x10 and told him that we have the same phones, i told him that the x10 really needs froyo to be updated onto it and he told me that it will prob be on it sooner than you think.
he explained to me that they knew about people crying out for 2.1 and well get it sooner aswell!!
is there light at the end of the tunnel??

The petition needs to reach beyond the blogs to really make a difference said:
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"[/b]
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Here to reach them,but we still someone to translate in japanesse for us,ill try to find someone on my day off.
http://xperia-fan.jp/community
And here the official Japanesse twiter
http://xperia.twinavi.jp/

I've asked a mate of mine (who's a 5th dan Shotokan Karate!!) to see if he can do it, or ask one of his Japanese contacts to do it for us.. will let you know if I have any luck.

Great i just use google translator on the site.....my lol We really need a real Japanesse speaker
but it tell me they are in the same boat then us at least ,seems they getting 2.1 to eventually.
OSAnroid OS version 1.6 release with time. Worldwide, the latest version is 2.0 or 2.1 was announced and has been released.
Xperia is the OS version yet, it seems to be positively considered.
Since October 2010 presentation of the model in summer 2010 Android OS 2.1 to upgrade to announced that.
発売時の搭載OSAnroid OS バージョン1.6。世界的には、最新バージョンは2.0や2.1が発表されたり、発売されています。
XperiaのOSバージョンアップは未定ですが、前向きに検討されているようです。
2010年夏モデルの発表会で2010年10月以降にAndroid OS 2.1へバージョンアップをすることを発表しました。

visitador02 said:
All I can say that 2.2 finally provides bluetooth functionality for voice dial.
In places where it is illegal to hold a cellphone while driving, voice dialing using bluetooth is an extremely useful function. Android devices have been lacking this since 1.5 cupcake. Google finally added full bluetooth functionality on 2.2. I hope SE does the right thing and updates the X10 to reflect this.
It is very annoying when Apple updates the Iphone constantly and Android phones are stuck on whichever hardware manufacturer schedule to make its phone unique (e.g. sense, timescape, touchflow).
I think Google has the correct idea of separating future updates from the unique modifications that the manufacturers want. But for that to happen, all phones have to reach 2.2. first.
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They are still lacking the AVRCP profile update. It is still stuck on v1.0.. when the latest version is v1.4

Yep. I bought an MW600 as it was advertised that it's fully compatible with X10, but after three months of emails flying around, SE concluded that it's not fully compatible due to Android's limitation on AVRCP profile.
For MW600 to work fully with X10, we need AVRCP 1.3 or above!!

Maybe we can stress SE to roll out an update for security reason? These few days, Malware, backdoors and trojans in official market place became hot topic.
And quote from CNET :
At least 50,000 people had downloaded the apps in question, according to enthusiast site AndroidCentral. However, many of those potentially infected may have been protected by staying current with the latest Android updates. AndroidCentral notes that Google actually patched its source code to prevent this type of exploit for users running Android 2.2.2 or higher and that the vulnerability doesn't exist at all in Gingerbread, aka Android 2.3.
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Reports: Google yanks infected Android apps
Chances might be slim, but it worth a try?

Anyone know a way to contact SE regarding this issues(security/android version update)? Or would like to help get this message to them?
Posted on Xperia X10 Official community forum. Any other site, email to send the message to them?

could work if we tell them that this can somehow damage their fw or idk

alankstiyo said:
could work if we tell them that this can somehow damage their fw or idk
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The attack is an exploit, they have to patch it.
You need to do a full system wipe and reset your phone completely, the data wipe and reset from settings may not be enough. This means ODIN, RUU's, .sbf files or a trip to your carrier store if this is beyond your capabilities.
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But then what about product id/IMEI/IMSI and our privacy (some of us do have paypal, google account :gmail, contacts,checkout/bank apps).

2.1 in Q3

blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
I smell "No x10 firmware update until Q3"....

disroyal said:
blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/16/x8-announcement-and-xperia-updates/
I smell "No x10 firmware update until Q3"....
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omg yeah just read this in a tweet! does this mean Q4 we get 2.2!? dammit just release it already!!!!

kmaximax said:
omg yeah just read this in a tweet! does this mean Q4 we get 2.2!? dammit just release it already!!!!
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Well the 2.2 isn't even mentioned, i doubt we will get it in this year.
BTW, great news, so we will get the 2.1 somewhere near september, not bad.

We are of course very glad to offer this upgrade earlier than originally planned. Xperia™ X10’s position will also be further strengthened through the addition of HD video recording as part of the same Q3 upgrade. A further upgrade to the Xperia™ X10 in Q4 will make it possible to connect and display wirelessly content on your television and enhance the Timescape™ and Mediascape applications.
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Froyo (wifi hotspot) hint?

Yes, read it on Easto, Such a great news And Mikrokiwi, You've a point

dlna
they mean

anders260 said:
dlna
they mean
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oh yea, makes sense
I've heard that they will skip froyo and move on to gingerbread anyway, but that is just pure speculations/rumors as always ^^

I really wish I could believe them when they say Q3...
The good thing is that we have a fairly functional Donut, we could've been stuck on a stock version and that would've been painful. When you avoid the cool but oh so slow stock apps like Timescape and add some stuff from the market it's a really nice OS.
What would be awesome though was if we could get vanilla images without all the extra stuff bolted on and the ability to customise it fully. But without root that's not gonna happen. :/

Sounds like the root news has scared them abit lol

Nice move SE
That's good to hear. I see where SE is going with this. Previously they planned one big 2.1 update on Q4 but after receiving numerous complaints they divided it into "2 phases" updates in Q3 and Q4. It’s clear from the announcement that the promised DLNA support along with other features will be postponed until phase 2 on Q4.

mikrokiwi said:
Froyo (wifi hotspot) hint?
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I think its more about Google TV. Probably u can use ur phone as remote or so.

Don't you just love how NOTHING about that small update was mentioned? Did they just stop with that one all together, or what?

great news!!! seems that SE started to listen to the market and customers. love SE!!!

so the first rollout will be september 30th! Just keep that in your mind and you will be ok!

Hopeful, but im still doubtful. Time will tell so lets hope they get it right.
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Theaccomplice88 said:
Don't you just love how NOTHING about that small update was mentioned? Did they just stop with that one all together, or what?
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* Apologies. I am aware that we haven’t followed up on the post re smaller software update that Sumit did a couple of weeks ago. We will get back to you with more info on this very shortly (read very shortly)
Wouldnt that be a little info?

At least it sounds like they're starting to listen to their customers "a little".
To survive on the market they have to provide smaller, faster update cycles. It's the new model to stay competitive. Releasing monolithic updates that take forever just doesn't work anymore because there are so many other alternatives available and people don't have to wait. They'll just move on and then all the work put into the update is wasted because no one is using your product.
So fingers crossed.

gr00vy0ne said:
At least it sounds like they're starting to listen to their customers "a little".
To survive on the market they have to provide smaller, faster update cycles. It's the new model to stay competitive. Releasing monolithic updates that take forever just doesn't work anymore because there are so many other alternatives available and people don't have to wait. They'll just move on and then all the work put into the update is wasted because no one is using your product.
So fingers crossed.
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That's not how SE thinks and works. A more obvious explanation would be the Release of the X8 , so they try to push the Phone ASAP to the market and as both Phones, with slightly differences , have the same Specs they try to get the X8 on the market WITH Android 2.1 , so they have to hurry up and as they do 2.1 for the X8 they spend the update to the X10 a bit earlier. SE learned how the market reacted to their release of the X10 with Android 1.6 and I'm almost sure they won't do the same mistake with the X8.
SE is pushing new Models to the market very quick and they want to sell them all. When we get 2.1 we can be happy because i don't see a further Release of 2.2 or higher for the X10 , this will be exclusive for their new Flagships.

All android phones shall be getting updates.
The only way flagships shall differ will be through hardware.
From a reliable source.

se_dude said:
All android phones shall be getting updates.
The only way flagships shall differ will be through hardware.
From a reliable source.
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So all devices will have outdated OS:es, but flagships will have beefier hardware they can't use?

Next Android Version on X10

Since all New handset of SE in 2011 will release with Android 2.3 or even 2.4(Honeycomb), What are you thinking about Next Android version on X10?
I say all that they will release Next update for X10 based on Android 2.3.
I think SE Never try working on Android 2.2.
Finally we will have Android 2.3 on our X10 officially!

hehehe i voted on what i believe

rabetionline said:
Since all New handset of SE in 2011 will release with Android 2.3 or even 2.4(Honeycomb), What are you thinking about Next Android version on X10?
I say all that they will release Next update for X10 based on Android 2.3.
I think SE Never try working on Android 2.2.
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It has already been stated numerous times that the X10 will not have an official release based on another OS than 2.1 ... What is the point of such a poll?

really....they also announced about no multi touch too
and if you see the hardware,it is capable of all OS...there are many videos showing with 2.3

for multitouch there was an official announcement explaining they found a way to enable it and it will be added in a future release against what they previously announced
I am well aware of what the hardware is capable of and I am absolutely certain that devs here will make a 2.3 build for the X10.
The key word though is Sony Ericsson. They have never had a plan to bring the X10 to a higher android release than 2.1 as new handsets are due for release in the next month and they will run 2.3 to show the public they are to replace the current handsets. It would make no sense commercially for SE to update its old handsets when new ones are available

yemgi said:
It has already been stated numerous times that the X10 will not have an official release based on another OS than 2.1 ... What is the point of such a poll?
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Which source?. They dont reveal any plan they have for X10.

yemgi said:
for multitouch there was an official announcement explaining they found a way to enable it and it will be added in a future release against what they previously announced
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There was an official announcement that the X10 didn't have the hardware support for multitouch(counting from dualtouch)...but any capacitive screen can do that, then they suddently said that they found a way to make it work...everyone knows that the dualtouch being used in our x10s is the same that appears on nexus one and HTC desire so they didn't discover anything, they just didn't wanted to work on it when they said that, so they "LIED" when they said their first statement.
Talking about android OS support, i haven't read anything related to "which OS will be the last one" from SE. Remember that some said that there will not be any updates for the X10 in 2011 according to that famous document showing future updates and we know now that it is not true.
Anyway i'm not saying that we will have 2.2, 2.3 o 100.1, i'm just saying that people on SE change their minds a lot

thati right.

Ok firstly i think it will be 2.2
secondly SE have never said they wont update higher than 2.1, they just havent confirmed that they are yet. the roadmap didn't state any higher than 2.1 but the roadmap didn't state end of support.
now sonyericsson have stated that they will suport phone for two years after release and the x10 was Released 2010, March this means they dont stop with software support until march 2012. so it highly likely well get 2.2

I think that we will at least get 2.2 before end of life, although, I'm sure that it'll run honeycomb just fine. I'm hoping for at least 2.3.

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the roadmap didn't state any higher than 2.1 but the roadmap didn't state end of support.
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spot on there PiLoT. The roadmap was a 2010 roadmap, it showed nothing for 2011 or further because it was a 2010 ROADMAP! All people seem to remember was that it showed nothing higher than 2.1 by the end of 2010, and guess what...that is where we are at right now - bang on schedule!
i would think 2.3 if anything, and have voted as such

I hope we all get what we want...... Me I want 2.3 or some clever man from here to get a solid 2.2
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Actually, the X10 would run super well with 2.2 especially with the increase in performance of 2.2. I would certainly hope the X10 would get AT LEAST 2.2. Getting 2.3 would be even sweeter but at least 2.2.
It's capable of running froyo and it would be a waste of a good phone without it since it is proven that 2.2 increases performance by a lot. So hopefully, SE, you can fulfill that.

I personally believe that the X10 will never be updated beyond 2.1. Yes, we will get multitouch but why would they give their old phones the same software as all the new ones that will be announced in february? All they want to do is sell as many new phones (the most expensive one they make) as possible. So for now they will keep feeding us info on all the marvelous things the X10 will still get to boost the current X10 sales and from the moment the new models come out they will just dump the X10 because they have a new flagship with 2.3 installed out of the box.
I can be wrong but I'm afraid this is what is going to happen.

Hi,
I voted (wishfull thinking) 2.3...
yemgi said:
(...) It would make no sense commercially for SE to update its old handsets when new ones are available
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I think opposite regarding what it means to have commercial sense. If I believe that SE will support my investment for a period of 2 years, keeping the product up to date, I will be more willing and confident to buy again SE products. In a competitive market sticking passionate consumers to our brand is a key factor to prosper.
New products should get their share through new hw features explored by new sw apps rather than the supporting OS.
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Alex

My skeptic side says that we'll only see 2.2.
But with news of the X10 mini successor running snapdragon and 2.3, it looks as if they would be able to get 2.3 running on our current x10 without too much extra effort.
And like what everyone else has said here, nearly all of the prototypes have been running 2.3. It appears that they're skipping 2.2; why bother getting it to run when it may be simpler to port it from the next x10 mini to the current x10?

I'm quite sure that X10 will remain a 2.1 device.
We will get a couple of updates (the promised dual touch and UXP update), maybe even some bug fix (but not the in-call volume, that's NOT a bug you hearing-impaired pests!), but not a new OS version.
For the morons in the SE board of directors a OS upgrade for a year old device would be just a waste of money.

not trying to be pesimistic but i don't see any update further than 2.2

Hi all, probably a stupid remark here pardon for am just a junior, just couldn't help my self, rather than just hoping, any way we could probably push SE on a clash action against them to update this lovely phone. any body a lawyer here. just to explore tho possibility, cause they promised a support at least patches along the life of the handset, and there are bugs on 2.1 that is pathed on 2.2, and this is minor revision, and another in 2.3 also minor. later on 3.0 that is Major.........
well just an Idea........
Sorry For the Bad english

next firmware will be harder to root
SE can't expect anyone who has the X10's to go out and purchase another phone, 1 year after the run around they have put us through unless they offer a trade-up program for those of us who actually paid money for these phones.
SE believes that it is offering the most stable firmwares of it's competitors and that this caution on it's part to make certain the 'experience' is better for the customers. While bugs do get through or some things get overlooked, SE has historically fixed many bugs in their firmware in the past (save the P1). The call volume will never be fully corrected in the phone, and the inability to use the phone in loud environments is because there's no noise canceling hardware.
UXP going lite? Well, it's SE's defining application and they released the SDK for the vortex et al. Lite I'll believe when I see it. You can tell it not to update automatically in the background and the widget can be removed from the Home screen. This app and the rounded cases with the hardware buttons is the internal 'style' of the phone. And if Timescape worked better and integrated with Twitter better, it is sort of neat. It's surprising that a company that has a much java experience as SE didn't see the performance issues.
SE claims to have submitted many fixes to Android (90?) and had about half of them accepted. There's some video from one of the developers at developerworld (I think) that says this.
Before I got my x10 I was certain that when the x12 or whatever it's called is released, the x10 would be updated to the same firmware level, and that would be the last update for the current generation (unless there were serious bugs that did not require a newer version of Android to correct). Today, I could toss a coin since I think SE's choice to NOT put a full 512mb ROM in this phone was as much about not expecting it to be upgradable as saving a few cents per unit.
Whatever happens, this is what I 'think' will happen.
1. No improvement in the screen colors. It's such a easy way to get better performance, not increasing the screen colors.
2. Any new firmware they release will have the standard Android rooting hacks blocked. SE really doesn't want you screwing with the phone, and carriers don't want you taking their apps off, even if you don't use them. Google's comments on 'wishing the phones were more open' came right about the time the little update to 2.1 was released that now with the still uncracked bootloader, makes SE the 'most secure' phone. This could be a selling point with all carriers.
3. AT&T may not ever release another approved version of firmware. This phone is not important to them, they've been trying to give them away 2 for 1, yet they have yet to offer a discount or sale on Captivates which outsell X10's by many multiples. Even SonyStyle was offering the phone for free with a new contract as if they were Amazon or BestBuy.
It may be best to move to a generic version to that if SE continues to release fixes or updates, it's available to you without the carrier's approval.

Gingerbread on X10 delayed in August

According to SE blog Gingerbread is delayed in August:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia™-x10/
While this is a bad news for X10 owners they have some excuses:
"...March most of the 2011 XperiaTM software functionality from e.g. XperiaTM arc will be included. The UI with the desktop layout and pinch-to-overview gesture will be similar and Gingerbread features like Wi-Fi & USB tethering, App storage on SD-card etc are included. Also the customizable horizontal app tray and the media experience widgets from the 2011 XperiaTM Products are in, including an integrated equalizer in the music player. Of course also apps that require Android versions 2.2 or 2.3 will now be possible to download from Android Market, e.g. Adobe flash."
August is not so far away so let's see. I am not o pressed anymore as I have also my Arc
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look up
*smacks forhead*

I just checked the blog out too. I wonder, why the delay? I see the mobile will become a hotspot, tethering they are allowing. Is it compatible software on SE's end?
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the reason was explained in the blog and the discussion is happening in the gingerbread update discussion thread.

I actually had faith in SE, but now they've delayed their update I don't care what device they will bring in the future. Also the only improvement of our devs their roms will be the camera. I will move to HTC (Only if they get a nice design) or else I will go to Samsung. They said it's planned for end Q2/begin Q3. August is not the begin but middle of Q3!! I'm very dissapointed as SE customer and I spend my damn money on this phone that will not even kept as updated as a Arc would be.
1.5 years left, and I can finally say Hello to HTC/Samsung and bye SE. I don't care what ever they say, they promised fast updates. Well I see, months of work and still a late release then promised. Also, great customer service. NOT, they can't even reply to your questions, and mostly in a NORMAL way without typefaults.

PlayGunsta said:
I actually had faith in SE, but now they've delayed their update I don't care what device they will bring in the future. Also the only improvement of our devs their roms will be the camera. I will move to HTC (Only if they get a nice design) or else I will go to Samsung. They said it's planned for end Q2/begin Q3. August is not the begin but middle of Q3!! I'm very dissapointed as SE customer and I spend my damn money on this phone that will not even kept as updated as a Arc would be.
1.5 years left, and I can finally say Hello to HTC/Samsung and bye SE. I don't care what ever they say, they promised fast updates. Well I see, months of work and still a late release then promised. Also, great customer service. NOT, they can't even reply to your questions, and mostly in a NORMAL way without typefaults.
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Agreed they have always been full of crap they promised us features then later retracted statements
Ill never make the mistake of buying a SE. again
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And we needed a separate thread for this to remind us about the delay every time we look in general section right?

This was the final push. I am buying a new phone now.Not a SE.

Closing this thread cause there is already a gingerbread thread stickied

ICS update delayed... Won't come OTA

Doesn't look good for the Verizon crowd.
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-delays-no-ota-updates-either-20120330/
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
Sent from my R800i using XDA

I like it. It sounds like they're going to straight-up release it for use with Flashtool. With the work that the developers have done in porting roms to the R800x, chevyowner in particular, it should be a really good development in terms of updates.

please add cdma to this thread title, otherwise a lot of gsm use will get a shock for their life xD

It doesn't really pertain specifically to CDMA. It's a general deal, apparently, that Sony is delaying, and aren't releasing OTAs.

Verizon's Firmware is different from Sony's, so I still believe if Verizon does update your devices that it will be OTA, As of other carriers, I don't know.

The .145 firmware was a UK firmware that supported CDMA variants, which is mostly the Verizon Xperia Play. I believe if Sony could do it then, they can do it again. I'm holding out hope for this one.

I'm patiently awaiting the UK ICS Rom for my r800x.

Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

sufy1000 said:
Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess

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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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Yeah... but atleast they've told us that if it'll run on 2011 Xperia devices or not so we don't jump in straight and update to Ice Cream Sandwich which then would be a problem for us.
So, I guess all us with a 2011 Xperia model will have to stay on Gingerbread. Well I don't mind as long as everything runs smoothly which it does on Gingerbread.
I am still a unhappy though cause I was looking forward to ICS I waited so long !

I had a feeling it was a bad sign when Verizon offered me a free upgrade..... Glad they chose to grease the squeaky wheel.... Still sucks though....

You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?

romcio47 said:
You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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Agreed. Sony are playing with us. They are very very lazy indeed.
So Peed of right now

I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
If you want a fast phone stick with COLA rom.
trust me.
ICS is like putting lipstick on a pig.
the whole thing reeks of slow /bloatware and "pretty effects"
you know what i say to that? F*** that S***
I dont give a d*** about what it looks like.

Hogwarts said:
I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?

Logseman said:
So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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lol true. It's got nothing to with ICS but it's all got to do with the Sony Delevopers !

And it's good that they actually highlight these possible issues anyway! I would much rather know this than update blindly and find them later by myself. Then again, what people seem to want is to hear that their device is magical. It sells better indeed.

First thing I'm doing upon getting the official update is to remove Bloat like Music Unlimited ****...

Reapman said:
Wonder what impact this will have on root
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None. We have root now
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