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I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
abricko said:
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike
This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0
Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.
I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!
not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.
hello everyone, quick question
im looking for a locking program that will lock the screen when i press the power button (device goes into standby) and when it wakes up
the default locking program with WM is annoying because you can lock the phone BUT when u get an incoming call or text message, the screen becomes unlocked again and its easy to "answer" it accidently when its in your pocket. this is particularly annoying with text messages, because most of the time i wont even realize i have one and the phone will be awake for hours draining the battery and waiting to be pushed. anyways ive done several searches and come up with the following solutions, none of which work for me
1. S2U2, i dont like it, i tried it, wont use it again
2. SensorLock - An EXCELLENT locker, except it wont work on phones without Accelerometers...works wonderfully on the diamond tho
can anyone suggest something to me
First, set timeout for turning screen off autoamtically. This will solve SMS wakeup problem - screen will turn off automatically after some time.
Next thing, incoming calls - there is great Onyx ROM with Opal's slider - to answer a call, you need to slide your finger from center to left (or to right to ignore it). You can't answer accidentally using it
i appreciate your suggestions but neither works for me
i tried the opal but it didnt work properly, i actually had to hard reset to get rid of it
as for the timeout, it still doesnt solve the problem of the phone becoming ACTIVE as soon as a notification or text message is received
So, I have PocketShield installed and it's set to slide or light unlock and answer. Quite often when I get a call it takes so long to unlock and answer, the person is gone...
There are maybe a few options -
1) I've installed and uninstalled so much stuff, maybe I need to start fresh? I have noticed the HD is a little 'laggy' now. Should I hard reset and install things back on slowely, testing it's responsiveness as I go?
2) Maybe I should switch to S2U2? I used this for a long time on my Kaiser, but have been concerned by everyone saying it drains battery power.
3) Do I need a screen lock program? The device only wakes up on a phone call and now you have a slide to answer/ignore anyway. Do the hardware keys do anything at this point? Am I safe to carry it round in my case without a screen lock?
Does anyone else suffer from this, or just me?
Thanks for any help/advice in advance.
Having the same issue. Sometimes my slide option simply doesn't work first few attempts. My solution is to use the "answer call" key beneath the main screen until this gets resolved.
S2U2 works like a charm on the HD and it doesn't draw additional battery as far as I have seen over the past few days.
When u have a call, u don't need to slide so you unlock the device then accept/reject the call.
Depends on what you have set, you can either have the original accepting/rejecting HTC screen poping up to take/reject your calls,
or you can set it so u have a new slider appearing on the wallpaper of S2U2 to accept/reject the calls
Try it, you won't regret it guys.
Well, yesterday I hard reset my HD and installed just the stuff I wanted. I've gone back to S2U2 and everything seems much much better so far. The only annoying thing is sometimes the phone wakes in landscape mode still, even though it's set to not rotate in Gyrator (and doesn't when it's woken, it stays in whatever it is in.)
Whats the difference between S2U2 and the phones default slide to answer phone ?
In other words, why install S2U2?
Its a very well presented Screen Lock, that's why. The question is just how to go from that to answering a call...
Id I have S2U2 installed, and a call comes in on my HD, what happens? does s2u2 take over from the default "slide to answer" system?
Yes it does. I think the problem I had was it wasn't doing that properly before hand. They were obviously conflicting with each other and I was struggling to answer calls.
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Whats the difference between S2U2 and the phones default slide to answer phone ?
In other words, why install S2U2?
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Well S2U2 will lock your phone screen and buttons so you do not start by mistake an application or a phone call when the device is in your pocket.
Even if by mistake u click on the power on button, ur device is still locked until u unlock it using a slider like on the i-phone.
It allows u to display a wallpaper of your choice, different then the one on your today screen or in TF3D. It allows u to display clock date, network signal, tasks, missed calls, SMS, etc ...
Try it, it's free and very nicely designed
I tried to use S2U2 and found that just like every other locker it is behaving wrongly after a call - it leaves the device unlocked! So if I listen to music and get a phone call I'll have to pull it out of the pocket to lock again. There is a silly option to lock after each call of course, but this is just stupid - I just want the device to stay locked until I unlock it - how difficult is this?
Funnily, the only locker behaving properly is the stock Windows one, but it has a backlight bug and switches the device to Home screen.
It's just amazing how nobody can do such a basic function right.
vangrieg said:
I tried to use S2U2 and found that just like every other locker it is behaving wrongly after a call - it leaves the device unlocked! So if I listen to music and get a phone call I'll have to pull it out of the pocket to lock again. There is a silly option to lock after each call of course, but this is just stupid - I just want the device to stay locked until I unlock it - how difficult is this?
Funnily, the only locker behaving properly is the stock Windows one, but it has a backlight bug and switches the device to Home screen.
It's just amazing how nobody can do such a basic function right.
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Just tried it few seconds before posting, called myself from the office phone, answered the call using the slider is S2U2, the screen turned off, I ended the call by pressing on the end call button on my HTC touch HD, and the S2U2 screen lock was there, the device was still locked.
It works perfectly with the touch HD.
hello xda community
i'm very new to the blackstone and this is my first post here. so please bear with me if i'm asking very basic questions here.
my problem:
i carry my blackstone in my pocket all the time. and many people told me throughout the last days that they called me and that i picked up the call by accident.
since i work at customer sites mostly my phone is muted. so people call me and somehow i pickup the calls while the phone is in my pocket.
i always turn of the screen and i have the automatic lock (password protection) enabled. still when the incoming call screen comes up it looks like it is possible that calls are being picked up.
i know there is the slide which has to be moved to the left in order to pickup calls.
i have tried myself by calling my from my home phone and touching the screen and the buttons at random. and indeed the calls are being picked up. i was not able to find out how this is happening ... but it does.
so is there any setting i can change or any additional piece of software i can install to make sure calls are only answered when i want?
possible a reg key i need to change?
any help is very much appreciated
cheers
This isn't just a problem with the Blackstone; every WM phone I have had does this. I have found that a good locking program handles this quie well. I personally like S2U2 by A_C, but there are many others available. You can look in the apps forum, or check the development & hacking forum from the main menu.
The other thing to check is that you have all your notifcations set properly. I set all of mine to vibrate only. Many of them turn on the screen by default. Unfortunately this won't fix the problem on its' own though.
mwelch16 ... thank you very much for the reply
i will give it a try and see how it works for me.
so that means first of all i will have to slide that iphone type of lock and then take the call by using the regular slider?
is there any other way (without) an additional piece of software to handle this? cause after all there is the build in slider ... but somehow it's not working as it is supposed to. any enhancement to that?
thanks again
Is there a way how to disable the CALL PICKUP button which is on the left? so the first of the four buttons?
I think it's because it getting pressed while my phone is in the pocket.
thanks a lot
I use Pocket Shield - it's not free (free to try though) but it's worked well for me
tibor78 said:
mwelch16 ... thank you very much for the reply
i will give it a try and see how it works for me.
so that means first of all i will have to slide that iphone type of lock and then take the call by using the regular slider?
is there any other way (without) an additional piece of software to handle this? cause after all there is the build in slider ... but somehow it's not working as it is supposed to. any enhancement to that?
thanks again
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No, S2U2 will unlock itself for a phone call and then lock the phone again after the call. So no need to slide to unlock and then answer your phone. It has a bunch of different settings, and yes I believe it locks the hard buttons.
thanks folks for the replies
i found all the settings i was looking for in the S2U2 options. so i'm good right now.
thanks again
You're probably answering the call by pressing the "phone" button (the very left of the four buttons on the bottom). You can either use those buttons to answer/hang up, or the on screen slider.
I've used AE Button Plus to disable the 'Answer' and 'End' hardware keys and re-mapped them to turn wifi and bluetooth off and on. This way there is no chance of hanging up on a call by mistake since you need to use the slide to answer on screen.
Similar but opposite problem
I'm having a problem along the same lines. If I get a call when the phone is in my pocket and answer it on my bluetooth headset, when the call ends the phone then rings someone else, usually the same person who is at the top of my contacts list. Not only is this damned annoying for me, it's getting a bit tedious for the person getting the unwanted calls.
Is there any way to get the phone to immediately lock as soon as a call terminates to prevent this happening? I'm assuming that once the call ends and it returns to the default contact/dial pad screen, the merest brush against the screen will be enough to start a new call.
I'm beginning to think I should have stuck with my iPhone
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You're probably answering the call by pressing the "phone" button (the very left of the four buttons on the bottom). You can either use those buttons to answer/hang up, or the on screen slider.
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I've the exact same problem, 3/4 of the incoming calls rejected when I get the phone out of my pocket due to End button accidentally pressed.
What did they thought when they implement the slide to answer ????
The purpose of the slide to answer is to avoid such accident, but why the hell did they keep the Answer / End buttons active ????? total non sense to me.
Will check if this AE Button + app can solve this annoying behaviour.
has anyone tried Lockmelite?
It may help - haven't used it myself though.
x 2 for PocketShield. It uses the light sensor in your phone to prevent the touchscreen from activating when the device is inside, say, a pouch, or in your pocket.
I'm using evaluation version 2.6.2.10, which as I understand it, has full functionality, except that every now and then, randomly (and IMO infrequently enough to not be annoying) before unlocking it displays a 10 second message saying that you're using an evaluation version. Note that this *never* happens during an incoming phone call. Good stuff.
Hi,
Try TouchLockPro :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
Now it handle light unlock in any cases, that as solved all my issues (pocket, in cas BT,...) and fulfill all my requirements.
BR
Pocket Shield doing perfect job for me
I use AE Buttons Plus to disable the "Answer" & "End" virtual buttons. Then I used iconsoft Phonext to handle all my calling functionalities. When a call comes in, Phonext display a lock screen which you have to slide before it presents you with all the options like answer, decline, silence etc.
This way, I never accidentally pickup a call or dial a number.
Hi all!
I have a problem with my HD2, that it won't lock after ending the call which I received while it was locked.
I'm aware there are threads about this, but none has a definite solution. So I contacted HTC support, and they told me to flash newest ROM. Before I do that, I want to check with you will it really help.
So please, try following procedure, and tell me your results:
1. Lock the phone.
2. Have someone call you.
3. Phone should unlock, allowing you to answer.
4. Answer.
5. End call (doesn't matter if it's hardware button, red end button, or caller hangs up)
6. What happens now? Is your phone locked (as it should be according to manual and common sense) or is home screen shown, and phone is not locked.
Thank you. Please also state your ROM.
Followed your steps. It really doesn't relock the phone o.o.
I'm on Dutty's 1.8
d4v0r said:
Hi all!
I have a problem with my HD2, that it won't lock after ending the call which I received while it was locked.
I'm aware there are threads about this, but none has a definite solution. So I contacted HTC support, and they told me to flash newest ROM. Before I do that, I want to check with you will it really help.
So please, try following procedure, and tell me your results:
1. Lock the phone.
2. Have someone call you.
3. Phone should unlock, allowing you to answer.
4. Answer.
5. End call (doesn't matter if it's hardware button, red end button, or caller hangs up)
6. What happens now? Is your phone locked (as it should be according to manual and common sense) or is home screen shown, and phone is not locked.
Thank you. Please also state your ROM.
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I have the same issue, tried have used several roms and none lock after hangup. its a pain when using headset and the phone is in my pocket...
Thank you for your replies. It strange how it doesn't bother more people, to me it's almost as big as SMS issue. We should all write to HTC.
being as i don't actualy use the phone for talking to people much i haven't noticed this but yes i totally agree this is bad
it probably doesnt bother many people as all you have to do is press the hang-up hard-key and it locks the screen...
I am running the latest 1.66 WWE standard ROM - same here remains unlocked after call.
I have tried pocketshield which does lock after call BUT it is VERY VERY buggy. It keeps changing settings on its own and at the moment I cannot access the keypad in a call so I can't use an automated service where you press number - pulling my hair out.
I have tried Dutty, Miri and Leo Lite Roms - they don't address the issue.
This is a major problem for me - never occurred with my HD (blackstone) so why has HTC introduced this and not sorted it????????
I'm using official 1.66 ROM amd the HD2 does not lock after a call, especially bothers me as I use Bluetooth pretty much all the time. resorted to using touch lock pro and lockandoff. setup touch lock pro to use tapi, and also to run lockandoff on hangup.
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I am running the latest 1.66 WWE standard ROM - same here remains unlocked after call.
I have tried pocketshield which does lock after call BUT it is VERY VERY buggy. It keeps changing settings on its own and at the moment I cannot access the keypad in a call so I can't use an automated service where you press number - pulling my hair out.
I have tried Dutty, Miri and Leo Lite Roms - they don't address the issue.
This is a major problem for me - never occurred with my HD (blackstone) so why has HTC introduced this and not sorted it????????
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The keypad issue is resolved in the newest beta 3.2.9 (http://forums.jdbp.mobi/phorum/read.php?3,7368). This version also allows to "auto unlock" by using the proximity sensor which is very handy on the HD2.
About changing settings on its own... no idea, never happened to me
do you know if there is a registry string to make sure to lock the phone immediately after a call is from the screen or hardware button?
Thanks
A very simple solution (although a bit boring in time) is to use a password to unlock your phone. If a password has been used, the phone locks right after a call ends.
I know it's not the funniest thing, having to enter a password each time you want to unlock your phone, but hey, it does the trick!
And yes, it really is bad! Much cheaper and less sophisticated devices do that... Pfff...
both s2u2 and pocketshield have this ability. s2u2 is free, but pocketshield can be had for about 7.50. Much more functional than the stock lockscreens.
pocketshield I tried but I hate the screen because it hides the taskbar, possible that there is a registry string?
I downloaded S2U2 and tried it. Looks like a nice app at first, but:
a) It removes the "mute ringer" button when receiving a call. You may not see the exact same message, cause I'm translating from Greek, but I am talking about the gray button under the answer/reject slider.
b) It removes the "silent when I pick up" option. Again translation from Greek, I am talking about the option to turn down the ringer when you lift the phone.
c) After the application is removed (eventually, I couldn't live without the two forementioned features), I had the same problem I had before, the phone wouldn't lock with the "power" button, nor would it lock after some time of inactivity.
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I had to hard-reset it once again...
Such a shame...