I've been using my phone constantly for a few hours and the battery is at 41°C which is almost out of the safe limit of 45°C is there anyway to keep the battery from getting to this state??
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What is you clockspeed?
600 - 1.0 GHz
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Maybe you should lower the min? it might be a problem. I don't know.
Could the outside temperature also be a contributing?
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Maybe, but your minimum speed is most likely the contributing factor. By keeping it at 600 you're telling the phone to always stay at that speed, even when it doesn't need to and it's trying to idle to save battery
If you want to keep it at 600, do so but at least use SetCPU to create a profile that'll set the minimum to ~245 MHz when the display goes off
Disregard me, sorry. I didn't see that you were using your phone constantly
The battery of the x5 is a LiPo. The critical temp of a Lipo is 60 degrees. When the temp is over 60c it will lose lifetime.Ofcourse less temperature is better...Myself I own many really big lipo packs (RC hobby) and they are just good at 45C. But this is a phone battery so.....atleast I can say that 45c wont really harm the battery, If you aren't using 24/7 on that temp. The battery temp of my stock x5 is usually 26-34c.
Aslong as your fingers aren't burning......everything is OK
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So what is a safe temp for the battery to be running when you overclock the x. I think I red somewhere that the battery can handle up to 65 degrees c. Also does the x have the cpu temp monitoring probe? I thought I heard that the x doesn't?
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Highest mines been was 104° Farenheit while overclocking to 1.45... Usually its around 89° F
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Wow ok so temps that high are acceptable? I was a little worried when mine was running around the low 40's. Seems that the battery door gets pretty warm around that temp.
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What are you using to overclock? Normal operation on my x without being overclocked, under load of course like streaming music and video, I see temps around 38 celsius.
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Wow ok so temps that high are acceptable? I was a little worried when mine was running around the low 40's. Seems that the battery door gets pretty warm around that temp.
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Acceptable?? Sort of. Just because the phone CAN run at that high of a temperature does not mean it should be run for extended periods of time. Excessive heat is bad for any type of electronics. If you are OC'ing to the max, I would try lowering it a bit to see if it works good and the phone does not heat up so much.
They go into cool down mode at 140
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Currently at 102.2F as reported by setcpu widget while plugged in and using it for the past half hour or so. Seems kinda high to me, what's everyone elses experience?
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Well when its plugged in it will be warmer than normal. Right now my phone has been on with constant texting and random other usage all day long and I am at 80.6 degrees
My phone stays in the mid 90s and early 100s with regular use. It only gets in the 80s if I leave it completely alone for an hour or so.
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I stay mostly in the 80s and can get into the 90s with heavy use. Don't think I've ever passed 100, but there's a chance something like psx4droid could have pushed me up. I average about 86F.
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aeidian said:
Currently at 102.2F as reported by setcpu widget while plugged in and using it for the past half hour or so. Seems kinda high to me, what's everyone elses experience?
Do you use the SetCPU profiles? You could set one to underclock the processor while charging.
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I do, its set to 800mhz when charging. 600mhz if it gets above 104F regardless of charging or not. Leaving it alone on the charger for the last half hour the temp shows 92F. Just firing up Xda app and typing this out the temp has jumped to 98F in about a min of use.
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Are you guys using SetCPU for profiles and overclocking, or are you just using it for checking temps and current speed?
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Are you guys using SetCPU for profiles and overclocking, or are you just using it for checking temps and current speed?
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I was using it to check temps for this but I use 2 profiles, which may help my temps (def helps my batt). The default profile is 1000 max, 300 min, on demand. The other is when my screen is shut off, 300 max, 300 min. I've found this has saved me a pretty sizeable chunk of battery. I tend to listed to music 7-8 hours a day and while it doesnt need full CPU it will use it if it gets the chance. Restricting the proc to 300 off has never caused any issues and I can get from 8am - 4 or 5pm staying over 70% battery I have the unstable apps overclock and used it for a while, but kinda came to the conclusion that I can't really justify needing to overclock yet as I never see any lag. I guess if I run into any lag at some point I'll prob clock back up to 1.3 or so.
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I did overclock, but it ran way too hot, like 107F during normal use and didnt get below 100 dormant. 1gig is high enough to me. I have it set to underclock when charging or when below 50% battery or when above 104F.
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I do, its set to 800mhz when charging. 600mhz if it gets above 104F regardless of charging or not. Leaving it alone on the charger for the last half hour the temp shows 92F. Just firing up Xda app and typing this out the temp has jumped to 98F in about a min of use.
Only other idea I have is downloading Droid Overclock and try running at low or ultra low voltage. Make sure to make a backup first. And try low before ultra low. Individual devices can be picky about a lower voltage and can go into a bootloop if it can't run on a lower voltage. Droid Overclock has profiles like SetCPU.
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Hi guys I am from India and on international s3 and face a problem that s3 get hot upto 48c
I have a solution for this(must be work)
1. First of all disabled bundled stock apps like chat on etc I have attached a screen shot of disabled apps on my s3
2. Off NFC android beam.
3.disable s voice( big battery eater)
4.must disable s memo and exchange mail
5.clear cache of all files and apps weekly
6.flip board users plz clear your cache routinely( this apps has a network bug that eat more battery in less time.
7. Set sync of apps like Google +,mail,wheather to 6 hours.
Screenshots are below.
Plz tell me after disabled these apps attached below that the tricks work or not
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48°C is really like nothing. I remember SGS 1 & SGS 2 especially were getting almost 60°C.
So - unless some expert denies - I'm pretty sure temperatures up to 70 will not make harm.
With one exception: temperatures above 40° will shorten battery lifespan in the long run. Li-ion batteries don't like this.
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That sounds crazy, 70°Celsius? How can you actually still hold the phone on that temp? Almost impossible. My S3 never reached 40° Celsius once so far. But i remeber my HC Desire, when it was very hot outside, it reched almost 50° Celsius and it was HOT like **** in the hand i couldnt hold it very long tbh. And i dont think that this is good for the phone.
70°c can damaged your s3 CPU and you cannot hold the phone. So plz don't make such a comments on temp.
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surender9999 said:
70°c can damaged your s3 CPU and you cannot hold the phone. So plz don't make such a comments on temp.
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Evidence please that it can damage your CPU .
jje
follow this thread to monitor the temp of ur s3 .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787145
My device is at 40 degree at normal use
I have read (will post the link if I can find it again) that if a battery gets to 140°F then it can go into a self heating mode, not allowing it too cool down, and eventually catch fire. However, I have accidentally left my dx charging in my car on a hot day and when I came back out, it had shut down and had a "battery too hot" notification. That phone would power off if it got too hot.
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my phone is so bloody hot .. :|
If you want evidence put your s3 in a oven and see the result
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My gnex once hit 110c CPU temp and it still works fine, it was regularly hitting 80-90c during benchmarks.
To say that 70c will damage a CPU is absolute nonsense, a quad core CPU running at 1.4ghz will hit 65-70c no problem under full load before temperature throttle kicks in and limits the frequency to cool it off.
Battery temp is a different story, 70c battery temp will probably end up damaging your phone/battery.
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70°c can damaged your s3 CPU and you cannot hold the phone. So plz don't make such a comments on temp.
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Nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
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My gnex once hit 110c CPU temp and it still works fine, it was regularly hitting 80-90c during benchmarks.
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Do you really mean Celsius? Water boils at 100°C and I don't think that a CPU could even stand such heat..
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Do you really mean Celsius? Water boils at 100°C and I don't think that a CPU could even stand such heat..
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Yes I do mean Celsius, and a CPU isn't made of water...
It shut off as that is the safety cut off point for that particular CPU.
I had temperature throttle turned off.
Quite a few people have hit that temperature, go to the gnex forums and ask Simms22 if you want further proof.
I KNOW a CPU can handle that heat because I have actually seen it.
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Yes I do mean Celsius, and a CPU isn't made of water...
It shut off as that is the safety cut off point for that particular CPU.
I had temperature throttle turned off.
Quite a few people have hit that temperature, go to the gnex forums and ask Simms22 if you want further proof.
I KNOW a CPU can handle that heat because I have actually seen it.
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Hi,
I agree with nodstuff and I can confirm
The same thing with my Gnex (not with the same kernel ) With a modified CPU temp limit my Gnex is going up to 98°C, never try with the CPU temp limit disabled but indeed it shut down at 110°C, it's a fact and it's in some doc of TI.
And about the temp of the SIII here we talk about the temp of the battery, not the CPU temp, this is not the same thing, although there is some correlation (but actually with, for example, a battery temp of 50°C, we don't know the real and actually CPU temp)..
When will you have an CPU temp in the SIII??? There is a CPU temp sensor but If I'm not wrong for an application to read the temp the kernel must support it (it's hardcoded).And as far as I know actually there is no way of knowing the CPU temp.
At first with the Gnex it was the same thing, no CPU temp and Franciscofranco has enabled it (the reading by an app) in his app (and also with anothe 3rd apps after) so we can see the CPU temp in real time.
I really missed this feature with the SIII...
May b it can handle so much of heat ..but the question is about using the device whn its hot..do u think its will b very convenient to use the device whn the device is at 100 degree?
I guess its not possible !
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70°c can damaged your s3 CPU and you cannot hold the phone. So plz don't make such a comments on temp.
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I will make such comments.
They are said to be true
Comparing it to oven is very wrong, as oven gets 200-300°C.
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Hey can you hold your devices with gloves when it take 110°c I think you have two pairs of heat resistant gloves
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Hey can you hold your devices with gloves when it take 110°c I think you have two pairs of heat resistant gloves
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The CPU is at 110c, not the whole phone.
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The CPU is at 110c, not the whole phone.
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Its not just the cpu.. when the heat is dissipated the whole area including the screen gets hot.
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Its not just the cpu.. when the heat is dissipated the whole area including the screen gets hot.
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Hi,
Hot for sure but obviously not the same temperature of the CPU.
Temperature dissipated, yes, but not 100% transmitted at all the phone. CPU at 110°C you can imagine that the screen is not at this temperature for example, like the back cover, otherwise beware of burns and it's not the case.
When my Gnex reached 98°C it was hot but not unable to hold in hand.
Guys, you never used a Gnex (or another phone maybe) without a CPU temp limit, so disabled, or a modified CPU temp limit with an higher limit before thermal throttling...? The phone is still usuable.when I read you speak about very hot, extremely hot, or overheating with a battery temp of 45°C... Should not you know the CPU temp...
Ok the battery temp could be useful but not as much as the CPU temp...
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Nodstuff why you not understand the temperature theory for CPU or mobiles if your CPU take in 110°c temp it can caused many problem and reduce deficiency of your CPU.
Other people are saying all this thing so plz listen carefully and don't run your phone on 110°c
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Hi guys I dont play much games on my phone ,
Yesterday when checked found modern combat for free on samsung apps downloaded installed and now when I started playing it gets heated very soon is this normal or is it due to over clocking of cpu and gpu?
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Hello, what is your current voltage for your cpu and gpu? And frequency (cpu/gpu)?
Undervolt probably can resolve the problem!
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Hi guys I dont play much games on my phone ,
Yesterday when checked found modern combat for free on samsung apps downloaded installed and now when I started playing it gets heated very soon is this normal or is it due to over clocking of cpu and gpu?
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It's normal. I haven't over or underclocked or overclocked my phone and when playing highly intensive graphiv games, it heats up. If you have a case on it, that could contribute.
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Having a case on heats the phone up? I haven't rooted or played any intensive games on my phone. I do have a case and I am noticing the phone heats up quite a bit when you charge your phone or if your 3G connection is ON for long. I think that's the reason my SD Card got busted, due to excessive heating. Can anyone confirm the phone heating up coz of a case?
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Yes guys ive a case bit when playing I remove it and the heating usually happens on the front and back side of my screen where the back camera is located
Ive set max feq to 1.8
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If it isn't turning off then you are fine. A quad core cpu with a gpu on board will get warm in the designated area, especially given the fact there is no ventilation.
Your cpu set to 1.8ghz and voltage?
You can test decrease voltage by 0.25mv to reduce heat and better battery life.
For me actually 1.8ghz = 1250mv
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Your cpu set to 1.8ghz and voltage?
You can test decrease voltage by 0.25mv to reduce heat and better battery life.
For me actually 1.8ghz = 1250mv
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perfect now
What did you guys use to set the frequency and voltage? I'm on omega v15 TW based and tried to use setcpu but it won't let me go higher than 1.6 Ghz
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Its the case with only a few games. I hope it will be fixed with an update. The XXDMC3 firmware is said to have come up with a fix already!
Hope for the best ....
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My G2 tends to get worryfyingly warm when im using a bit more cpu intensive tasks. The cpu managed to get to 67°C when playing 3 races in NFS Most Wanted and managed to get 76° when doing Antutu benchmarks twice and it started throttling. And battery temp stayed around 40~45°. Idk, if this is supposed to be normal(please bear in mind my previous phone was HTC Evo 3D, which barely got hot ). When idling, the phone is just a bit warm. I'm running OptimusRs Pro V4.1 Stock kernel. Is this supposed to be normal for quad core phones or should I get it to service?
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Oh, and when phone is idle, the cpu is 42°C and battery is 32°
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This is normal the g2 is a very powerful phone without a fan eventually phones will have to have small fans and phones may be noisier than today's phones
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I know that, but it tends to get hot very fast, a couple of minutes heavy tasking and its already throttling
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Is it really normal? I mean after 10 mins of browsing even the screen gets really hot..
see if you can check your kernel's cpu profile settings. could be that it's not allowing the cpu to idle when it should be. alot of times there are various profiles you can set it to 'on demand/powersaver/ect...' and this will change the behavior of the cpu's throttling.
Well now we're in the summer and the phone will naturally get hotter since the only thing that cools it down is the environment. If you're browsing under hot sunlight with 100 percent brightness then yes, it is going to get really hot.
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I know that, but it tends to get hot very fast, a couple of minutes heavy tasking and its already throttling
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its not normal bro. i have the same issue on all aosp roms and cloudyflex roms. my phone becomes really hot. if you give a shot at cloudystock 2.2, your phone wont heat up at all. try it out and be sure to make a nandroid before. just incase if you change ur mind and want to get back to this rom. i wouldnt recommend it though, anthing above 25*C for the battery is bad for its health since its a lithium battery.while the cpu heating up to 70*C is fine i actually use custom throttling to reduce my phone heating that much, i keep the throttling at 60*C
No it gets hot even at 60 percent brigthness while browsing. NFC, BT, 3G are off, i am using only 2 widgets, The top of the phone gets really hot... my sis has S3 and it never ever gets that hot, so do my old Huawei phone..