Currently at 102.2F as reported by setcpu widget while plugged in and using it for the past half hour or so. Seems kinda high to me, what's everyone elses experience?
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Well when its plugged in it will be warmer than normal. Right now my phone has been on with constant texting and random other usage all day long and I am at 80.6 degrees
My phone stays in the mid 90s and early 100s with regular use. It only gets in the 80s if I leave it completely alone for an hour or so.
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I stay mostly in the 80s and can get into the 90s with heavy use. Don't think I've ever passed 100, but there's a chance something like psx4droid could have pushed me up. I average about 86F.
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aeidian said:
Currently at 102.2F as reported by setcpu widget while plugged in and using it for the past half hour or so. Seems kinda high to me, what's everyone elses experience?
Do you use the SetCPU profiles? You could set one to underclock the processor while charging.
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I do, its set to 800mhz when charging. 600mhz if it gets above 104F regardless of charging or not. Leaving it alone on the charger for the last half hour the temp shows 92F. Just firing up Xda app and typing this out the temp has jumped to 98F in about a min of use.
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Are you guys using SetCPU for profiles and overclocking, or are you just using it for checking temps and current speed?
These are the droids you are looking for.
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Are you guys using SetCPU for profiles and overclocking, or are you just using it for checking temps and current speed?
These are the droids you are looking for.
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I was using it to check temps for this but I use 2 profiles, which may help my temps (def helps my batt). The default profile is 1000 max, 300 min, on demand. The other is when my screen is shut off, 300 max, 300 min. I've found this has saved me a pretty sizeable chunk of battery. I tend to listed to music 7-8 hours a day and while it doesnt need full CPU it will use it if it gets the chance. Restricting the proc to 300 off has never caused any issues and I can get from 8am - 4 or 5pm staying over 70% battery I have the unstable apps overclock and used it for a while, but kinda came to the conclusion that I can't really justify needing to overclock yet as I never see any lag. I guess if I run into any lag at some point I'll prob clock back up to 1.3 or so.
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I did overclock, but it ran way too hot, like 107F during normal use and didnt get below 100 dormant. 1gig is high enough to me. I have it set to underclock when charging or when below 50% battery or when above 104F.
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I do, its set to 800mhz when charging. 600mhz if it gets above 104F regardless of charging or not. Leaving it alone on the charger for the last half hour the temp shows 92F. Just firing up Xda app and typing this out the temp has jumped to 98F in about a min of use.
Only other idea I have is downloading Droid Overclock and try running at low or ultra low voltage. Make sure to make a backup first. And try low before ultra low. Individual devices can be picky about a lower voltage and can go into a bootloop if it can't run on a lower voltage. Droid Overclock has profiles like SetCPU.
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So what is a safe temp for the battery to be running when you overclock the x. I think I red somewhere that the battery can handle up to 65 degrees c. Also does the x have the cpu temp monitoring probe? I thought I heard that the x doesn't?
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Highest mines been was 104° Farenheit while overclocking to 1.45... Usually its around 89° F
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Wow ok so temps that high are acceptable? I was a little worried when mine was running around the low 40's. Seems that the battery door gets pretty warm around that temp.
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What are you using to overclock? Normal operation on my x without being overclocked, under load of course like streaming music and video, I see temps around 38 celsius.
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Wow ok so temps that high are acceptable? I was a little worried when mine was running around the low 40's. Seems that the battery door gets pretty warm around that temp.
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Acceptable?? Sort of. Just because the phone CAN run at that high of a temperature does not mean it should be run for extended periods of time. Excessive heat is bad for any type of electronics. If you are OC'ing to the max, I would try lowering it a bit to see if it works good and the phone does not heat up so much.
They go into cool down mode at 140
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Is anyone else's shift over heating?...if not what can I do to prevent it from heating up
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Is the phone overclocked? if so turn the CPU scaling down
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For some reason it was overheating bad, all I did was reboot the phone and it stopped over heating.....I do have the x99kernal and have it set to on demand 1209 max 245 min, that's not too bad is it?
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No I run mine at 1.5 mostly they just get hot from time to time
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Run my Shift all day at 1.6gHz, no issues. Once in a while with heavy use it will get warm. But not hot. My TP2 used to get really hot. After looking into it, turned out it was a battery issue.
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What are we talking about for normal battery temperature vs one that I should worry about? I have serious battery issues and I am on my second phone because the 1st one wouldn't last more than 2 hours. I barely have any programs running and it won't last more than 4 hours. Thanks!
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For some reason it was overheating bad, all I did was reboot the phone and it stopped over heating.....I do have the x99kernal and have it set to on demand 1209 max 245 min, that's not too bad is it?
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I had that happen to me 2 weeks ago at a baseball game... The phone was in my pocket as it always is, and the thing started getting extremely hot to the touch within minutes... Also using x99 with kickass governor, 245 min/806 max.
And I did the same thing to fix the problem as you..
Now if I can only figure out why I have no data at all today on the phone..
My girlfriend's Shift began overheating at a wedding not long ago. Was able to track it down to K9 Mail, which was stuck constantly polling the 3G connection. Even a reboot would only stop it for a while. Uninstalled and reinstalled K9 and all was well after that.
Same thing happened to me once when I tried the Pulse app I think. I was looking for a different RSS reader. It got stuck updating or something. I was sitting at work and my phone felt very hot. I noticed data was being transfered and checked the network usage using the *#*#4636#*#* and sure enough Pulse had downloaded over 200mb worth of data that morning on 3G. Once I removed the app it has been fine. I am stock rooted.
I didn't see an answer for this anywhere. What is the maximum temp this phone can safely handle before it starts getting damaged? It's starting to get warmer and i want to know when i should start to be concerned.
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Be concerned when it enters the 100's(F), which it gets to while charger sometimes at high freqs and around 110ish. With normal use mines stays in the 90's or 80's.
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Be concerned when it enters the 100's(F), which it gets to while charger sometimes at high freqs and around 110ish. With normal use mines stays in the 90's or 80's.
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I think it got up to 114 once and I had pulled of the battery cover and held it in front of the ac til it hit 85 degrees.
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I think it got up to 114 once and I had pulled of the battery cover and held it in front of the ac til it hit 85 degrees.
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What freqs do you use on your MT4G? According to your sig you have MIUI, no?
That rom should run fine on Scary/Conservative instead of demonspeed or smartass. Temps will be lower with Scary/conserv governor enabled.
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What freqs do you use on your MT4G? According to your sig you have MIUI, no?
That rom should run fine on Scary/Conservative instead of demonspeed or smartass. Temps will be lower with Scary/conserv governor enabled.
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It doesn't seem to matter what gov i use, I'm clocking at 902 max.
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It doesn't seem to matter what gov i use, I'm clocking at 902 max.
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Odd..Unless the phone is kept in a warm or hot area, and is being used heavily too. Under 1GHz the temps should be fine, do you use the phone a lot?
mine hit mid 160's one day when my charger didn't stop charging (was at 99% for a couple hours) didn't do any damage, still on original battery and seem to get decent battery life on fusion/faux 0.7 kernal.
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Onefast said:
mine hit mid 160's one day when my charger didn't stop charging (was at 99% for a couple hours) didn't do any damage, still on original battery and seem to get decent battery life on fusion/faux 0.7 kernal.
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OMG i would be in a panic if i saw battery temp that high! I get concerned over 110.
my phone overheated to the point where parts of the touchscreen wouldnt respond. after it cooled down...everything was fine.
i got this when using assisted gps....
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my phone overheated to the point where parts of the touchscreen wouldnt respond. after it cooled down...everything was fine.
i got this when using assisted gps....
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You're putting the HW parts at risk..Especially the CPU which can fail from those temps, this isnt a desktop CPU which has cooling to help the chip. These mobile chips shouldnt stay at those ranges. How can you even hold the phone at those temps? That's just crazy IMHO.
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You're putting the HW parts at risk..Especially the CPU which can fail from those temps, this isnt a desktop CPU which has cooling to help the chip. These mobile chips shouldnt stay at those ranges. How can you even hold the phone at those temps? That's just crazy IMHO.
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i realized that...i wasnt trying to keep the phone at that temp, it just suddenly happened...as soon as i noticed...i turned off the phone and pulled the battery.
the phone wasnt that hot...its the cpu
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i realized that...i wasnt trying to keep the phone at that temp, it just suddenly happened...as soon as i noticed...i turned off the phone and pulled the battery.
the phone wasnt that hot...its the cpu
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I see, well do you use OC too or normal frequency range? I used to have a Sammy before the MT4G, and it would get really warm even w/o changes to CPU clock(But it uses Conserv. by default). These 1GHz+ chips generate lots of heat, I wonder if this is related to those bad EMMCs failing too...
After calibrating, draining and recharging and wiping stats a thousand times, this is what I get:
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Wtf is that crap?
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After calibrating, draining and recharging and wiping stats a thousand times, this is what I get:
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Wtf is that crap?
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2 hours of screen time there, that seems about normal to me. I'm lucky if I squeeze out 3 hours of screen time throughout the day.
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It depends entirely on what you are doing. 2 hours of screen time (even in ideal conditions) will most likely get through half of your battery.
What screen brightness settings do you use?
What were you doing with the "screen on"? (i.e. gaming, video etc).
What kernel do you use? Try the Faux 1.0 Ghz kernel (if not already) and consider undervolting.
I imagine with the combo of Faux's stock kernel, undervolting and perhaps reducing screen brightness will see 5ish hours of screen time.
It was on around 85% brightness due to being under direct sunlight.
My kernel is faux's 1.45 for CM
Over 80% of the time the clock was around 200, 400MHZ as stated by SetCPU, and both those clocks are undervolted by 50.
I was browsing the whole time.
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It was on around 85% brightness due to being under direct sunlight.
My kernel is faux's 1.45 for CM
Over 80% of the time the clock was around 200, 400MHZ as stated by SetCPU, and both those clocks are undervolted by 50.
I was browsing the whole time.
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Wow no wonder. Roaming for 2 hours with brightness nearly on full will definitely drain your battery.v Plus the 1.45 Ghz kernel overclocks the RAM and GPU also. You might want to get an anti glare screen-protector and flash the 1.3 Ghz kernel and use wifi.
I'm on the nightlie 18
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Wow no wonder. Roaming for 2 hours with brightness nearly on full will definitely drain your battery.v Plus the 1.45 Ghz kernel overclocks the RAM and GPU also. You might want to get an anti glare screen-protector and flash the 1.3 Ghz kernel and use wifi.
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Umm... wifi wasn't an option back there, and I don't use screen protectors. BUT I didn't know that bit of fact from faux's kernel, I'll put in the 1.3
BTW, Green power pro does help a ****load on keeping battery alive.
ps: anyway to control RAM and GPU clocks the way we do with SetCPU with the... well... cpu?
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I'm on the nightlie 18
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Why don't u go to a stable version and see if the battery drain continues there also ? You can always create backups to restore right ..
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Welcome to cm7. I'm lucky to get 10 hours light usage with faux 1ghz kernel undervolted with a screen off profile of 216-216mhz.
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Welcome to cm7. I'm lucky to get 10 hours light usage with faux 1ghz kernel undervolted with a screen off profile of 216-216mhz.
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Have you tried installing better battery stats and CPU spy to see if you have a rogue app? You should be getting significantly better battery life. How is your cell signal?
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Why don't u go to a stable version and see if the battery drain continues there also ? You can always create backups to restore right ..
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Lol it is stable and my battery life is great
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I don't believe setcpu functions correctly for dual core devices, I remember reading, albeit a while ago, setcpu only effects 1 core, leaving the second untamed.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Stock cm kernel has plenty of ass behind it, no ones playing bf3 on their handsets....yet...
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In all actuality, android isn't optimized for dual core devices either. ICS will be.
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Have you tried installing better battery stats and CPU spy to see if you have a rogue app? You should be getting significantly better battery life. How is your cell signal?
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Watchdog shows the suspend process and android media process taking up about 30% usage constantly. Signal is strong when I'm at work, constant 4-5 bars H+
Even after a full wipe and clean install of CM7 those same processes throw up alerts immediately, I will get al alert for the suspend process every few mins.
Background data off, no email syncing or anything. I'm lucky to get 3 hours screen on time or pandora streaming. I bought a new Motorola battery about a month ago and I don't use GPS or wifi.
Running stock, aura or homebase and the drain is gone... they aren't any good IMO tho.
For now I'm carrying a spare charger everywhere I go till the nexus prime is released.
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In all actuality, android isn't optimized for dual core devices either. ICS will be.
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ICS is still android lol
I know what you meant though. Just saying
I've been using my phone constantly for a few hours and the battery is at 41°C which is almost out of the safe limit of 45°C is there anyway to keep the battery from getting to this state??
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What is you clockspeed?
600 - 1.0 GHz
SmartassV2
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Maybe you should lower the min? it might be a problem. I don't know.
Could the outside temperature also be a contributing?
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Maybe, but your minimum speed is most likely the contributing factor. By keeping it at 600 you're telling the phone to always stay at that speed, even when it doesn't need to and it's trying to idle to save battery
If you want to keep it at 600, do so but at least use SetCPU to create a profile that'll set the minimum to ~245 MHz when the display goes off
Disregard me, sorry. I didn't see that you were using your phone constantly
The battery of the x5 is a LiPo. The critical temp of a Lipo is 60 degrees. When the temp is over 60c it will lose lifetime.Ofcourse less temperature is better...Myself I own many really big lipo packs (RC hobby) and they are just good at 45C. But this is a phone battery so.....atleast I can say that 45c wont really harm the battery, If you aren't using 24/7 on that temp. The battery temp of my stock x5 is usually 26-34c.
Aslong as your fingers aren't burning......everything is OK
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