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Hello guys, well atm i have samsung galaxy ace and today a friend gave me offer for exchange with x5. Should i exchange? For me galaxy ace is good but few things really create problems e.g low ram,200mb internal memory,processor 800mhz but cant be oc and no good roms available. So i need some advice here.
Also i had some questions. How is the touch screen of x5? Battery life? (my ace only lasts 10 hours :-\ ) any other major cons?
Thanx for your time
P.S - how do i confirm his device is u8800 and not u8800H?
Hello!
The X5 is great (for its price), with the default ROM it runs ok, no glitches and lags. I tried ADW and other launchers but due to the lack of gpu acceleration I wasn't impressed (maybe with overclock...). The battery life is pretty good (with heavy usage wifi, some gps, rss, browser, music, some gaming I get at 20% until night).
The screen is pretty good, I've got it for some time now and without a screen protector I don't have any visible scratches.
The only cons on stock rom are the preinstalled apps and I hate the touch keys (home, back etc) I accidentally touch them a lot.
Also no front facing camera (if you really care).
I don't think there is any significant difference in the "H" version
go for it!
For me it's very good bargain cause he/she saved you from your mistake.
3 of my friends use ace and they want to snatch x5 from my hand everytine they saw it. X5 wins every sector except for the brand name. People still believe on brand name
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liangse said:
For me it's very good bargain cause he/she saved you from your mistake.
3 of my friends use ace and they want to snatch x5 from my hand everytine they saw it. X5 wins every sector except for the brand name. People still believe on brand name
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Band name has some Pros when it comes to comes to service and peripherals (docking stations, headsets etc...), thank god all phones use the same USB port for charging...
Other than that I wouldn't spent more than 50$ for a same spec brand VS a non-well-known-brand phone.
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Hello guys, well atm i have samsung galaxy ace and today a friend gave me offer for exchange with x5. Should i exchange? For me galaxy ace is good but few things really create problems e.g low ram,200mb internal memory,processor 800mhz but cant be oc and no good roms available. So i need some advice here.
Also i had some questions. How is the touch screen of x5? Battery life? (my ace only lasts 10 hours :-\ ) any other major cons?
Thanx for your time
P.S - how do i confirm his device is u8800 and not u8800H?
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Well x5 battery life also is **** if you are using it. It takes 2% of battery per 7minutes sms writting. 5% of battery for 25minutes 175mb size video playing with lowest brightness.
Stock rom is absolutely ****!!! mine was so **** that it took 50% of battery per 20minutes and it was lagging! so you must upgrade to 2.3 custom rom for best berformance. Talk to friend with phone and listen is his phone do not have bad sound quality when he talks from his x5 - then x5 is better. BTW x5 uses 353MB of ram not 512MB.
128 is reserved for gpu tommi.
500 minutes of video playing! that's amazing.
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128 is reserved for gpu tommi.
500 minutes of video playing! that's amazing.
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Yes i know that, but it's not used for programs and performance but reserved for GPU but when we do not use any hardcore gpu game it's sad that we must sacrifice our 128MB of ram for it Anyway what about the video playback time i last night watched futurama and it took ~5% of battery life on minimal light and everything was turned off, but this doesn't mean that if we play continually video it will run 500 minutes
it is used for everything the screen displays.
you should know that that android "uses" the first 10% lightning fast and that the second 50% last a lot longer than first 50%. anyway battery life is standard if not a little better than other high spec android phones (excluding amoled screen ones) and everything above 4 hours of screen on time is good.
How is the touch screen? Is it responsive and good? And how do i figure out if its u8800 or u8800H??
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How is the touch screen? Is it responsive and good? And how do i figure out if its u8800 or u8800H??
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For me touchscreen si too much responsive!! i'm not kidding!! it's so damn responsive that it's hard to type correctly sms D i use GoKeyboard it's very nice and larger than android
i think H version should be written on back of phone when removed battery. MAYBE.
Anyway you should try it by yourself first. But hardware is good for this phone the only bad thing about it is battery. if you use it offten it won't last 12 hours.
Now i would trade my X5 to Sony Xperia mini pro (NOT x10).. it has better cpu and external keyboard. i hate onscreen typing..it's not for me
and a worse screen.
everyone should know that it's up to the manufacturer to set the clock speed.
btw. x5's cpu is newer than xperia mini pro's
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and a worse screen.
everyone should know that it's up to the manufacturer to set the clock speed.
btw. x5's cpu is newer than xperia mini pro's
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for me 3" screen is nice thing not bad, i hate big screens. And phone will not discharged so quick. Yes it's maybe older but better.. little and ****ing fast! Te only bad thing for Xperia is his height it's almost 2cm.
i meant resolution.
anyway, it's not a better cpu. they're pretty much the same, only x5's is a little newer.
I would go for it, just because the screen is much bigger and is virtually unbrickable.
Hey guys, here in germany I can get this phone for 175€, should i get it if I want a cheap, working smartphone? I think there is no alternative in this price range, is there?
Sure go for it if you are okay with installing custom ROMs which is quite easy. You can get it for about EUR 210,- on Amazon, I'd choose that and take the full warranty.
My 15 year old nephew wants a mobile. Main use will be music and free games. I was looking at Samsung Galaxy Mini and a user suggested this phone which seems to be available in India as Dell XCD35.
Is the phone good for the price.can he download and play games? How is ram and internal memory?
Would users suggest to but this phone?
I have read there are battery drain problems. Are these solved now?
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It's better than a galaxy mini because it has a better screen. Battery is as good as any other Android smartphone. 512mb ram & 512mb rom. The camera is poor, especially in low light & doesn't have any flash. Like the Galaxy mini it is a low end phone with a relatively slow armv6 cpu, so most games will work, but some of the more demanding 3D games wont work.
The ARMv6 cpu also means that it can't run the official version of Adobe Flash or Google Earth, or a few other apps.
Depending on what's available in your country & the prices it is probably the best phone for the money, but it can't compete with higher end phones (which are usually at least double the price).
yeah its a great phone
I love it. But realy you must install a custom rom because stock sucks much. Cm7 has a great battery life! I can have 2-3 days buut heavy use internet and games 1day. I love it for 130€ its great! Realy.
Thanks for the replies. I can understand that high end games won't run. But it seems a great value for money phone, the screen size and resolution are really impressive in specification, hope in reality too they are good. I will surely suggest this phone only.
Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.
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Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.
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Now I am firm that this is the phone to buy. Thanks everyone for their inputs.
The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!
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The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!
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A couple of thoughts about that one.
Dead pixels. Haven't seen one of the 10 Blades I saw.
Speaker clipping. Well the thing is at least 5 times as loud as my Desire HD and the sound of the speaker has some body.
No led, true but also alot of other phones have the same issue.
New ones use LCD not Oled, the quality of the screen is very very good.
The back, well yes, but I rather have a back were RF signals like wifi, gps etc can get thru. Wipes the floor with my Desire HD in terms of wifi, gps, phone signal and speaker
The dead pixels are somethings u really have to look for on a black background. You may have them but not even notice. About the speaker-> listen to something like Sun Is Up by Inna and you'll see how it clips. And I might have been wrong with oled or lcd... mine is TFT(Gen 2){Just saw that on the net}.
I have to agree that this phone is value for money! Overheating while charging is not much of a problem, but it`s fact. The only thing that I think the phone lacks is battery life, its poor while playing games or browsing /especially on 3G/. I`ve seen worst 3.2px cameras, so I think its barable (Using Camera 360 improves picture quality for me). As a whole, its a great phone for a great price!
I liked this phone so much when I got it that I'm now stuck with 3 of them. Blade was my first Android phone and while it was a cheap one, it was still better than any of the Nokia phones I had previously owned. Like many have mentioned, it does lack in some fronts, camera is just utterly horrible, pretty much the only thing it's good for is barcode scanning, so if you want to take decent (or even good photos), better grab a real camera with you. The speaker in Blade is INCREDIBLY good! It's the best I've heard so far and I've had way more expensive phones.
Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)
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Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)
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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.
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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.
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I can confirm that. Great for the money!!!
hey all XDA guys
i am planing to buy defy
my usage is not that much
simple phone calls of 2-3 hours a day and SMS
no 3G or 2G
but yeah 2-3 hours of wifi will be used
so what do you say , should i go for it
and if possible please say your experience with defy
thanks in advanced
if you are not interested about owning the ultimate phone, and you will use a custom rom, defy is a great phone with such many features. camera is the only thing i dont like very much
As an owner for the last few months I highly recommend it.
The pros and cons from my experience:
Pros-
Excellent value for money.
Compact yet has a 3.7" screen
Gorilla glass means no scratches.
Waterproof / dustproof (although the USB plastic band is getting less and less tight fit,
as you need to pull it every time you charge).
Cons-
Camera not so good, especially at non ideal lighting.
wifi receiver a bit weak.
Motorola Defy
I call a defy for about one year my own.
First: Its no High End Mobile...
But for everyday use, like sms, internet or of course Phone its great.
I never had the feeling its the wrong mobile for me.
For people who are using this Phone for social activities like facebook, twitter and stuff, the motorola interface, called motoblur, is quiet nice. I've been happy with motoblur... but then i installed a custom rom. its definetly smoother... But motoblur is not that bad
Everything works fine. Camera Quality is not the best, but for snapshots its enough. Also Video is not that goot, no 720p for some Defys and sound quality is also not that good.
another great thing about the defy are the developers. Custom Roms, Mods and Stuff like that are great. In the begining i said its no High End Phone, but thanks too the developers my Defy with CM7 and overclock to 1.2Ghz scores better Benchmarks than an Optimus 3d on Stock...
Battery lifetime is quiete nice. My Phone is almost the whole day in use. But battery lasts about one day... I'm using customroms for about a half year, so i forgot how it was with stock setttings.
Of yourse another great thing about the defy is that it is "undestroyable",... my last 3 mobiles broke after half an year... but the defy still works great and it dropped it a lot of times. its waterproof, i tested it. Gorillaglass, nice feature, but not as "awesome" as you may think. its not 100% scratchresistable, but its better than normal glass.
Hope this helped you.
Greetz Esok
Hey guys my nexus 4 was recently stolen :crying: and now its time to start looking for a new phone
This is probably the best option i've found so far in my price range but... I have a few questions I'd like to ask to people who actually own the phone, not biased internet reviewers
First of all, I will not ask about benchmarks or specs as we all know they mean nothing if the software is not optimized... but here are a few doubts I have before I buy it
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
Yes - it's a fast phone. A high clock speed and the fact it renders to 720p rather than 1080 means it's very snappy
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
A good screen, not great like flagship devices. Viewing angles are fine IMO - Sony has a bad rep for this but the SP's viewing angles are a vast improvement on their older xperia phones
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
I don't think you should be worried, this is improving with each update, but people have complained about this.
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
Sony have a good support network, but there are some issues they seem unwilling/unable to address with this phone. Wifi is clearly a problem
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
A relatively new device and not especially common IMO, but development is steady, a rom a week maybe. I don't know which are popular, but stripped back ROMS and ones attempting to give the feel and look of flagship Xperia devices dominate. Kernels are all stock based at the moment, but FreeXperia and some independent developers are planning to bring CM10.1 and CM10.2 to the phone. After that I expect things to gather pace - MIUI and AOSP roms should follow on pretty quickly I imagine. There are a decent amount of mods as well
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
The internal storage - around 5gb is available for the user, this is just about adequate, coming from a 2011 device I thought it would be enough, but because you can't move apps to an external SD, it get's used up quickly. I'm not a power user and it doesn't feel like enough. There are ways around it if you're rooted, but you wish Sony would do what Samsung have done and mod their builds to allow this
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
I think it helps if you've got a newish router, but my experience isn't great and this is echoed by many others here and on Sony's support forums. There are ways to improve it, but out of the box performance for some users is unacceptable IMO. However with the tweaks in place I now get reception in parts of my house where none of my other devices (laptop, netbook, old phone) get reception - for me range has always been excellent, but connecting in the first place sometimes took several attempts or needed a phone reboot
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
The camera is average, don't know whether this is a hardware issue or Sony's image processing - but the fact that people complain about the cameras on better Xperia devices suggests that Sony's software may be at fault. They definitely cut costs with the front camera - fine for video calls and basic snaps but not suitable for photography. Ultimately, whoever the manufacturer, people complain about cameras
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
The S4 mini has a smaller screen (lower resolution too?), but more RAM, I think it's a better device if you want a more compact phone. The SP feels better in the hand IMO, it is somewhat chunky and heavy but feels solid and well made. If you've come from an N4 going to a smaller screen may be difficult. The SP is almost flagship standard - the corners cut aren't that important to sensible users, do mobiles really need 4 core processors, 1080p and 2gb of ram? I don't think you can do much better for the price - so it's really about the screen size when it comes to choosing between this and the S4 mini. I don't know about the L7
Parkside said:
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
Yes - it's a fast phone. A high clock speed and the fact it renders to 720p rather than 1080 means it's very snappy
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
A good screen, not great like flagship devices. Viewing angles are fine IMO - Sony has a bad rep for this but the SP's viewing angles are a vast improvement on their older xperia phones
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
I don't think you should be worried, this is improving with each update, but people have complained about this.
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
Sony have a good support network, but there are some issues they seem unwilling/unable to address with this phone. Wifi is clearly a problem
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
A relatively new device and not especially common IMO, but development is steady, a rom a week maybe. I don't know which are popular, but stripped back ROMS and ones attempting to give the feel and look of flagship Xperia devices dominate. Kernels are all stock based at the moment, but FreeXperia and some independent developers are planning to bring CM10.1 and CM10.2 to the phone. After that I expect things to gather pace - MIUI and AOSP roms should follow on pretty quickly I imagine. There are a decent amount of mods as well
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
The internal storage - around 5gb is available for the user, this is just about adequate, coming from a 2011 device I thought it would be enough, but because you can't move apps to an external SD, it get's used up quickly. I'm not a power user and it doesn't feel like enough. There are ways around it if you're rooted, but you wish Sony would do what Samsung have done and mod their builds to allow this
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
I think it helps if you've got a newish router, but my experience isn't great and this is echoed by many others here and on Sony's support forums. There are ways to improve it, but out of the box performance for some users is unacceptable IMO. However with the tweaks in place I now get reception in parts of my house where none of my other devices (laptop, netbook, old phone) get reception - for me range has always been excellent, but connecting in the first place sometimes took several attempts or needed a phone reboot
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
The camera is average, don't know whether this is a hardware issue or Sony's image processing - but the fact that people complain about the cameras on better Xperia devices suggests that Sony's software may be at fault. They definitely cut costs with the front camera - fine for video calls and basic snaps but not suitable for photography. Ultimately, whoever the manufacturer, people complain about cameras
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
The S4 mini has a smaller screen (lower resolution too?), but more RAM, I think it's a better device if you want a more compact phone. The SP feels better in the hand IMO, it is somewhat chunky and heavy but feels solid and well made. If you've come from an N4 going to a smaller screen may be difficult. The SP is almost flagship standard - the corners cut aren't that important to sensible users, do mobiles really need 4 core processors, 1080p and 2gb of ram? I don't think you can do much better for the price - so it's really about the screen size when it comes to choosing between this and the S4 mini. I don't know about the L7
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer everything I asked!!!
This really seems like a good phone, specially for the price. Regarding the screen size, thats why im interested in this phone more than any other "budget" phone, I know it will be hard to go any smaller than 4.5" and 720p. Anyways thanks a lot for your time, guess Ill try to go to a store where I can use it for a while and compare it with others
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer everything I asked!!!
This really seems like a good phone, specially for the price. Regarding the screen size, thats why im interested in this phone more than any other "budget" phone, I know it will be hard to go any smaller than 4.5" and 720p. Anyways thanks a lot for your time, guess Ill try to go to a store where I can use it for a while and compare it with others
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Plus... If you're a gamer, then this is it! Amazing performance!
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Go for it mate.. Using it since 3 months.. Amazing performance.. With the latest Update all bugs are solved for me.. Camera is not great but not bad.. And u will get upcoming android 4.3 and 4.4 ( may be)
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Go for it mate.. Using it since 3 months.. Amazing performance.. With the latest Update all bugs are solved for me.. Camera is not great but not bad.. And u will get upcoming android 4.3 and 4.4 ( may be)
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I think I will! thanks a lot man, I've seen you around a lot on this forum, glad to know we have people like you guys helping the community!
I have one more question, do I have to unlock my bootloader in order to intall custom roms and kernels, or iin order to make them perform better? If so , I hope any of you can guide me on how to unlock the bootloader without loosing any features as I've read that you'll loose bravia engine and some other stuff... Please excuse my ignorance but the method to do this on the N4 was pretty straight forward and Im a little confused right now lol
Btw: I know I don't even have the phone yet but usually the first thing I do is rooting and unlocking the bootloader and installing a rom so I really want to know a bit more before doing anything stupid :silly:
Thanks again
To open the bootloader it is easy but not like n4, if you open bootloader then you will loose be2 etc.
You can root and install cwm without opening bootloader.
Many Sony xda members use software called flash tools to install ftf files these contain all the stock ROM files.
To install custom stock ROMs you generally can use on locked bootloader, for some custom ROMs like cm 10.xx you will need to unlock bootloader to use kernels(this applies to all kernels)
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To open the bootloader it is easy but not like n4, if you open bootloader then you will loose be2 etc.
You can root and install cwm without opening bootloader.
Many Sony xda members use software called flash tools to install ftf files these contain all the stock ROM files.
To install custom stock ROMs you generally can use on locked bootloader, for some custom ROMs like cm 10.xx you will need to unlock bootloader to use kernels(this applies to all kernels)
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Yeah thats what I thought, but I think ill install a "stock enhanced" rom or something similar, Xperia pureness seems to be a good rom with a bit of customization while keeping all Sony features. No custom kernel for me, although I was kind of exited to try doomlodr's
Once again, I appreciate your quick response and support. Think ill buy this little guy today
fcb-1899 said:
Hey guys my nexus 4 was recently stolen :crying: and now its time to start looking for a new phone
This is probably the best option i've found so far in my price range but... I have a few questions I'd like to ask to people who actually own the phone, not biased internet reviewers
First of all, I will not ask about benchmarks or specs as we all know they mean nothing if the software is not optimized... but here are a few doubts I have before I buy it
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
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1- So far very smooth and great experience. I have around 50 apps installed and so far no noticeable lag or performance issues.
2- The display is pretty good, the viewing angles are not very good but it doesn't bother my much as I'm usually holding my phone straight or have it propped up against something. Other than that the screen is very crisp and beautiful.
3- Like in point #1, no ram issues so far but I haven't tried any resource intensive apps to test it to it's limit yet.
4- Haven't needed to contact Sony so far hope it stays that way. Bear in mind their support services might change from one region to another.
5- Personally I'm really enjoying the stock rom so I didn't feel like I need to install any custom ones. There are a few custom roms out there though including Cyanogen Mod
6- There is something that bothers me about this phone but I don't hate it, it's just an annoyance. The phone feels a bit fragile and if you're clumsy or paranoid like me you'll want to get a case for it. The problem is this model doesn't have that much accessories out for it (and no official accessories) so you might have a hard time finding something. I had to order stuff for it online and it was quite costly.
7- WiFi reception is pretty bad, especially when I use it side to side with my other devices. There is a couple of WiFi fix threads on this forum, I haven't read them yet but you should definitely check them out.
8- Camera isn't amazing but it's not bad either. In low light conditions you have to fiddle around the settings a bit first to get a decent shot. Again there's a thread on this forum with users' camera shots to give you a good idea on how good or bad the camera is
9- The Galaxy S4 mini is a decent competitor for this phone, it has a better camera and better viewing angles if that's important for you, but it has a smaller screen.
The Sony Xperia ZR is slightly more expensive than this phone but has higher specs and some extra features. Mind that the water proof models have all their ports covered with water tight flaps and the sound on the speakers sound a bit muffled probably also because they are made water proof. (http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php)
There are some nice mid-range HTC phones but the new HTCs often have internal battery and memory (no SD card slot).
Overall I'm absolutely in love with this phone. I love the battery life, the screen and the sound (loud speakers included). If you're into gaming this phone performs good and it also supports Sony Playstation's Dual Shock 3 controller which is a nice little bonus. (Hook it up to your TV and play with the controller :victory: )
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I think I will! thanks a lot man, I've seen you around a lot on this forum, glad to know we have people like you guys helping the community!
I have one more question, do I have to unlock my bootloader in order to intall custom roms and kernels, or iin order to make them perform better? If so , I hope any of you can guide me on how to unlock the bootloader without loosing any features as I've read that you'll loose bravia engine and some other stuff... Please excuse my ignorance but the method to do this on the N4 was pretty straight forward and Im a little confused right now lol
Btw: I know I don't even have the phone yet but usually the first thing I do is rooting and unlocking the bootloader and installing a rom so I really want to know a bit more before doing anything stupid :silly:
Thanks again
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Good thing you asked this because I stupidly unlocked my bootloader without paying attention and I permanently gimped my phone in the process. Xperia devices have a hidden partition that contains DRM keys. Without them the Bravia Engine and certain non-essential features in the Walkman app won't work. There is a way to back up and restore that partition before unlocking the bootloader. This will keep your phone's full features and warranty intact if you need them.
Check this thread here before unlocking the bootloader :
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1- So far very smooth and great experience. I have around 50 apps installed and so far no noticeable lag or performance issues.
2- The display is pretty good, the viewing angles are not very good but it doesn't bother my much as I'm usually holding my phone straight or have it propped up against something. Other than that the screen is very crisp and beautiful.
3- Like in point #1, no ram issues so far but I haven't tried any resource intensive apps to test it to it's limit yet.
4- Haven't needed to contact Sony so far hope it stays that way. Bear in mind their support services might change from one region to another.
5- Personally I'm really enjoying the stock rom so I didn't feel like I need to install any custom ones. There are a few custom roms out there though including Cyanogen Mod
6- There is something that bothers me about this phone but I don't hate it, it's just an annoyance. The phone feels a bit fragile and if you're clumsy or paranoid like me you'll want to get a case for it. The problem is this model doesn't have that much accessories out for it (and no official accessories) so you might have a hard time finding something. I had to order stuff for it online and it was quite costly.
7- WiFi reception is pretty bad, especially when I use it side to side with my other devices. There is a couple of WiFi fix threads on this forum, I haven't read them yet but you should definitely check them out.
8- Camera isn't amazing but it's not bad either. In low light conditions you have to fiddle around the settings a bit first to get a decent shot. Again there's a thread on this forum with users' camera shots to give you a good idea on how good or bad the camera is
9- The Galaxy S4 mini is a decent competitor for this phone, it has a better camera and better viewing angles if that's important for you, but it has a smaller screen.
The Sony Xperia ZR is slightly more expensive than this phone but has higher specs and some extra features. Mind that the water proof models have all their ports covered with water tight flaps and the sound on the speakers sound a bit muffled probably also because they are made water proof. (http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php)
There are some nice mid-range HTC phones but the new HTCs often have internal battery and memory (no SD card slot).
Overall I'm absolutely in love with this phone. I love the battery life, the screen and the sound (loud speakers included). If you're into gaming this phone performs good and it also supports Sony Playstation's Dual Shock 3 controller which is a nice little bonus. (Hook it up to your TV and play with the controller :victory: )
Good thing you asked this because I stupidly unlocked my bootloader without paying attention and I permanently gimped my phone in the process. Xperia devices have a hidden partition that contains DRM keys. Without them the Bravia Engine and certain non-essential features in the Walkman app won't work. There is a way to back up and restore that partition before unlocking the bootloader. This will keep your phone's full features and warranty intact if you need them.
Check this thread here before unlocking the bootloader :
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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Are you talking about the TA partition? Just curious...i did back it up before i unlocked bootloader..so if i restore it, will my "features" be back? Also..any special procedure for restoring the backup? By the way i am on .254 ..i made the backup while on .245 . So will restoring, in any way, harm the device? And also. Does restoring TA wipe data of the phone? ..sorry for so many questions.
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That was quick! Congrats on your new phone
Yep, I mean the TA partition. What did you use to back it up? Either FlashTool or TA_Backup script (the .bat file) should give you the option to restore, so use the same one you used in the first place. Yes, it should restore all your features back. I haven't tried restoring before since I lost mine, but I would assume it would wipe your phone since it also re-locks your Bootloader.
As for firmwares, I'm not sure. You can check this thread (use the "search this thread" box) or maybe even ask them directly. If you're feeling brave you can go ahead and try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
Edit: Sorry, my internet is a bit slow today. I did a quick search and it seems it's safe to restore to any firmware. I still highly recommend you check the thread for yourself first. Don't take my word for it.
That was quick! Congrats on your new phone <br />
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Yep, I mean the TA partition. What did you use to back it up? Either FlashTool or TA_Backup script (the .bat file) should give you the option to restore, so use the same one you used in the first place. Yes, it should restore all your features back. I haven't tried restoring before since I lost mine, but I would assume it would wipe your phone since it also re-locks your Bootloader.<br />
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As for firmwares, I'm not sure. You can check this thread (use the "search this thread" box) or maybe even ask them directly. If you're feeling brave you can go ahead and try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598<br />
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Edit: Sorry, my internet is a bit slow today. I did a quick search and it seems it's safe to restore to any firmware. I still highly recommend you check the thread for yourself first. Don't take my word for it.
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Oh thanks man and i'm not the one who made this thread XD i just wanna restore to stock completely
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Oh thanks man and i'm not the one who made this thread XD i just wanna restore to stock completely
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Oops! Looks like my internet isn't the only thing that's slow today xD
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Oops! Looks like my internet isn't the only thing that's slow today xD
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Haha XD and just letting you know, i did a full wipe and returned to .245 , then rooted it and THEN restored TA partition. Afterwards i clean flashed 245 and updated to 254 via OTA.everything's fine now and i finally feel the effects of Bravia Engine
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Very Very good phone.
Hi,
I'll try to give you my most honest feedback, unbiased as much as possible. I'd like to state that XSP is my 1st droid phone ever, my last phone was nokia E52 (which had a high velocity encounter with a wall) so it is quite a change so my opinion might be and prolly is influenced by that. Ofc i played around with other droid phones like my brother's HTC wildfire S so i have some minor comparison to the inferior phones. Lest get started...
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Hey guys my nexus 4 was recently stolen :crying: and now its time to start looking for a new phone
This is probably the best option i've found so far in my price range but... I have a few questions I'd like to ask to people who actually own the phone, not biased internet reviewers
First of all, I will not ask about benchmarks or specs as we all know they mean nothing if the software is not optimized... but here are a few doubts I have before I buy it
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
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The overall Xperia'ence is very good if not great. I would say that 99% of apps you will find run flawlessly, the one i remember that manages to stutter having influent scrolling is A1 SD bench (it also doesnt recognize SD card as a external card). Every game i installed and toyed with ran beautifully be it Osmos, PvZ or nearly anything else. The most extreme fps drop i've managed to get is in (this is the "nearly") arcane legends where there is like 30 people at once on the screen. i think that fps might drop there to like ~25 fps, personally i find it a very secluded and specific case and i am not bothered with it. For crying out loud this little gadget runs full HD 1080p mkv movies like its nothing... The processing power is insane and you really have to find/do some crazy stuff to encounter any kind of unsmooth transition. The only other situation i can think of when things get a bit jerky is the first few seconds after boot up. But i guess it's normal when there is a crapload of things to load up at once.
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2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
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At first when i got the phone i was in 3 days awe, things looked insane. When i started to read reviews there is indeed some truth to it but lets face it... why would anyone need some sick viewing angles on a 4.6" display? Its not a display large enough to view from to great distance to get in the bad angle range. When you are looking at it straight or even on some minor angle, like 3 people looking at the display at once things look great. So... angles aren't THE best, true but are really really great. Not only for this price, but in general they display is performing great. You also have to be aware that you (you as eye-brain) get used to things. So if you are using a very high end IPS display day to day with 120 Hz+ refresh rate you are likely to be not satisfied ONLY due the fact are used to something so much better. I use S27B350 Samsung display daily so my eye is used to similar class or quality and i am very satisfied with XSP display. I am sorry i cant give you any angle values but i didnt measure it so i can only give some examples from practice.
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3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
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I dont think you should be worried about that. I very rarely seen app crash but i did nonetheless. I cant even recall what were the apps to crash since it was so rare. At some point i used Google navigation, music and had a browser opened in the back - no problem, phone not breaking a sweat (apart from insane battery drainage and some heat).
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4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
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That would be influenced a little by your country. I once called polish support, since i am polish, and the lady i talked to... god id rip her throat out, quite a b*tch she was. The one problem i encountered is the LTE. Let me explain, when my phone is set to LTE (preffered) / WCDMA / GSM the gsm reception (signal) is often lost - i get 0 bars and red x for few seconds. This goes away when i set to WCDMA (preffered) / GSM.
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5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
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I cant help on this one i use stock, rooted, locked bootloader (btw rooting with DoomLord's method nearly always generate an offline charging bug - fixable but needs some work). Isnt Cyanomod an option?
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6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
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Yes in fact there is but minor. I hate the color inconsistency of apps. I would shoot in the head the one responsible for not making black/dark gui (only white) as a stock option for sms phonebook etc. I love that smartconnect in stock is black but hate with passion that updates are white and no longer support gps toggle. Last one is more about 4.1.2 not XSP, i hate that i cant get a popup when i connect to PC via USB asking which mode to connect in. The option to choose either Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) or Mass Storage mode (MSC) is only manual and "hidden" very deep in options (settings > Xperia > USB connectivity > USB connction mode).
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7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
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That one might be true. Prolly one of the biggest if not the biggest issue of this phone - quite bad wifi antenna. It really works bad with weak signals, where laptops or other devices have like ~30% wifi strength the XSP might not have it at all. Where my silly old E52 had 100% the XSP has 50-75%... It is also very likely to lose wifi connection on very weak signals. Some people claim that the 2.254 soft fixed the issue but the only fix i noticed, compared to 1.257, is that i dont need to wait few seconds after unlocking the phone to connect to wifi (at home situation). Sadly I cant see the signal strength to be one bit better.
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8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
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Personally i am not too satisfied with the camera, neither of the 2.[Rear] I think that compression of images is way to great. I wouldnt mind having 4 MB photos from 8 Mpix camera and not 2-2.2 MB like now. I cant compare to your nexus but i feel that camera could have been a tiny bit better. However, many/most people say it is very good and are happy with it. I dont do too many photos so i am living with that but if you really like or need to do good photos... you might wanna think twice. [Front] And front facing? It's a tiny, little thing in VGA, let's not expect miracles from 640x480 resolution form optics that are the size of a needle (?). Although, I dont know if you would get anything better in that price range...
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9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
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Personally i hate samsung phones mostly cos they **** them out like they had a diarrhea which leaves little time to introduce updates. Only because like 50% of the market is samsung doesnt mean its good. The LG L7 i dont know... literally i have no opinion. I for one am very happy with XSP. It has one of the highest capacity batteries out there: 2370 mAh, compared to high end considered Xperia Z's 2330 mAh it looks darn good. Beaten by far afaik only by Xperia's Z ultra's 3050 mAh battery. With moderate and reasonable usage the battery can last even 2 days which is quite a feat for any new generation smartphone with a display of that size. XSP to this day has one of the best dual core CPUs and GPU which performs superbly in practice. It is also made quite well, u dont see any "cheapness" in the material. If i were to chose again from the three S4 mini vs LG L7 vs XSP id still go for the Xperia. One more good thing is that we are expecting the 4.3 JB update soon, which gives hope that this phone won't be disregarded and leaves hope for upgrades in foreseeable future. The phone seems optimized dead on in terms of software efficiency which perhaps why many people on XDA are quite glad with stock rom - simply it really is good and well made, not perfect simply because there is are no perfect things in this world.
Personally i think it is the best choice it its class.:good:
Any Front camera samples?
Not expecting any miracles tbh just want to see how it looks.
They should'v ereally put a 1.3 on the front tbh
I can vouch for Sony Support, a few drops of water were in my screen and the aluminum casing was totally messed up(scratched and chipped) from an awful fall, I sent it in using warranty, saying that the display was acting up, and they replaced the screen and the aluminum casing ^_^
it seems that there are fairly decent reviews for SP in this thread.
Actually, I cant decide between a N4 and a SP since I can get either one for the exact same price
I am an average user who tends to do some light gaming, browsing and whatsap
I just wish to have a smooth user experience. Personally I am inclined to have a sony sp, given that the various bugs (wifi, touch screen sensitivity) are actually solved by the recent updates.
Are they major differences between the two handsets ( apart from 3g and 4g) or I would be happy with either one of them?
Thank you.
Main issue for me is the lack of internal storage on the n4. The n5 is rumored to only be a month away and its supposed to be quite competitively priced. Only a rumour though.
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Im between several phones tbh.
Been looking at the HTC One X, not brand new but used, better camera and what not but I heard the battery lifes horrible.
Hi All,
I decided to take the plunge and buy the Supreme Camera edition of the handset, just to see if there is any dramatic improvement in camera quality, from the original M9, which I eventually returned for build quality issues!
Took delivery about an hour ago and first thing I noticed is that the build quality on this handset is considerably better than the original M9 that I had on launch. Tight gaps and flush screen, so very pleased. Over the weekend I will give the camera a proper test, to really see if they have made any dramatic improvements.
First up though, and an embarrassing question to ask, but UK English is not an option for the language pack on this handset. How do I download extensions for this, so that I can select UK English for the phone language? I thought it would be obvious, but I cannot find a way to do it?!
Thanks
please let us knowabout your findings!
So the weekend is over. ...can you or would you post your review or opinions about the camera ?
I really want to upgrade from my M7 ....has it since May 15 .....still kicking .
Please do answer . Thank you .
Still waiting !
I wonder if we can s-off this one and get roms from M9+ to work on it, the problem with non-flagship HTC phones is that they have nearly zero custom roms
Your language pack issue?
I have the M9+ and isn't it quite easy to change language? Lol
Settings->Language & Keyboard->Language
And voila, you can change the language of your phone. At least that's what I did. Tell me if it works for you.
Hi I've done it on mine bought it from Hong kong.
You can s-off with sunshine tool.
phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
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phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
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for sure.exactly the same one.
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
Glen L said:
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
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Yes, it has got the play store.
Can i install this camera on any phone.
I will buy the M9+ SC only if it gets custom roms. This phone is a perfected M9 but htc is not promoting it at all
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Dont waste your money on it
"One M9+ Supreme Camera Edition allows you to capture your best photos in all situation with built-in 2nd generation OIS and industry-leading focusing technology (Laser AF & PDAF)"
This how HTC describes the M9+ Supreme Camera on their website, and I was stupid enough to believe it, so I went ahead yesterday and made the worst decision ever, trade a Note 5 for this piece of [email protected] Focusing on this thing is almost impossible, colors are always off, the camera app becomes so sluggish with the slightest shake. I lost hope in catching a good shot of my 3 years old daughter.
Add to that a below than average battery life that takes more than 2 hours to fully charge. Then comes the processor, that cant even handle the slightest games like Yahtzee Online and Domino!. I had to go into Developers mode, then turn on the High Performance Mode, which made things a bit better yet affected the already bad battery life. And dont try to watch a YouTube clip at 720p+ reslution, it will empty the battery and shut down before you are done from the phone.
Now I have to live with atleast $150 loss or else I would end up banging both my head and the phone till they crack open.
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Is it so !
So sad.... I thought it is the perfected version of M9 .
This has started a new thought ...should I now invest a fortune in coming HTC One M10 or go for SGS or Note series phones....
Thanks for your sharing.
Well... it depends on the point of view... I was using HTC phones since Kaiser (TyTN II) and now I have M9+ (not the Supreme Cam model)... I can do good pictures with it, good enough for a phone cause otherwise I'd use Nicon 5300 cam
And I do not really understand people swearing on the battery life... I am using the phone as handy office, calling, sending SMSs and Emails, even playing Fallout Shelter from time to time when I am bored, GPS, Internet... WiFi and Bluetooth connected almost all the time... All I need... Yet I normaly end up with 60-70% at the evennig and I do not bother to recharge during the weekend when I do not use the phone too much...
I even tried Asphalt 4 and it was running with no hiccup...
Damn... what's wrong with you people?
P.S.: I think I would never go for something else, not Samsung in particular, because I am totally happy with M9+...
That's very perplexing .
I have HTC One M7 Dev Ed...with a new camera .... and it captures great photos. Outperforms many of today's so called big shots in terms of looks,sound clarity,screen res , software support ...it can go on and on.
I am also a loyal HTC customer....have owned xda II, xdaIIi, Universal ,HD,HD2....
I am also not comfortable with other Samsung like phones...have used Note2 ....hated it....but...
Let's see what HTC delivers ...fingers crossed.
Sold
I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
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I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
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You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
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You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
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I am not a heavy gamer, that's why I took the risk. But I never knew it won't handle basic games. All in all, I am glad it all went this way and ended up with the A9, because I am loving it.