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how confy are u with the Galaxy 3

Hi
i have been a very long time HTC user i had a Gene & Jade(both wimmo) and i do have a Tattoo i recently got my Galaxy 3 and i wanted to share my experince with this phone Viz HTC and wanted to also know what the others feel thats all
Here goes
1. not too happy with the battery is seems to be giving me less life than the
other Phones i have used only around 1 1/2 days and now my use is much less than it used to be
2. the touch screen i feel is not all that smooth as my other phones
3.and doing simple things like wiping ur phone hard reset seem to be a little
difficult it was much easier on my old phone ie i mean no codes bla bla
4. wifi connection is not too good on my other phone at home i get full wifi bar connecting to my home wifi on this phone i just seem to get 2 bars
and im talking about just about 10 feet away from my wifi modem that all
5. and Mobile internet this phone to my knowledge does not have a way to disconnect the mobile date i had to use the APNdroid to keep it off on my other phones i can long press the end call key i will get a pop up and i scroll down and make sure that it is off this is not their on this phone
6. Flashing well im crazy about flashing my phone and i love to do it
a. i dont see any cooked roms for this phone
b.using the Odin seems to be a little confusing for me on my tattoo i just need to put the Rom on my SD
go to the recovery and flash from SD this i think is not possible on this phone or is it
on the win mo phone it is just using an app called costume RUU i just need to put the NBH file in that connect my phone to PC and do what the app says and bang i got my new rom flashed
hey alfter all i have used HTC for a long time so it might be getting used to this phone but i was just stating my exp
Kindly also share your exp so we can all get to know this phone better
DONT ASK QUESTIONS HERE just share ur experience on this phone
Thanks
hari

After reading your post, nothing left to say. time to put the phone on ebay auction with starting price of $1.
Cheers

czat said:
After reading your post, nothing left to say. time to put the phone on ebay auction with starting price of $1.
Cheers
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hi
i was just stating my experience with this phone that's all dont u have anything to say if u are also using this phone
thanks
hari

great phone! earlier I was thinking about the low res screen and low grade cpu and thinking that perhaps better I should have gone foe optimus one or X8 but there are beefits of getting a samsung like the fantastic audio quality, and good video player
The cpu is enough for daily use , while the screen is one of the best 240 x 400 units I have seen, Just compare it with Wildfire to see what I mean

Its important to consider the price when evaluating this phone. I got mine for 25 CAD.
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Same.. I paid $210CAD with no contract for mine - New.
For a phone running Android 2.1 with nearly all the same features as the $500-$600 phones, I couldn't pass it up.
Sure, it doesn't have the same size or resolution screen, but it's a decent size and the swype feature works regardless of how small the screen is.
Overall very impressed with this phone.

precurse said:
Same.. I paid $210CAD with no contract for mine - New.
For a phone running Android 2.1 with nearly all the same features as the $500-$600 phones, I couldn't pass it up.
Sure, it doesn't have the same size or resolution screen, but it's a decent size and the swype feature works regardless of how small the screen is.
Overall very impressed with this phone.
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I think LG OO is for the same price and you will get better GPS (Qualcomm), much better display (similiar to i3gs), RAM 512 Mb which means 2x more (faster), and no customization.
I think for 200 euro you can buy better phone. I don't understand how can Samsung release one device for more then 200 € with so much bugs )
issues with wifi, gps and display ?? why this resolution ?? Only one advantage is the google's android but I do not use any of samsung applications or widgets.
Many cheaper phones have better screen resolution.

Saka911 said:
great phone! earlier I was thinking about the low res screen and low grade cpu and thinking that perhaps better I should have gone foe optimus one or X8 but there are beefits of getting a samsung like the fantastic audio quality, and good video player
The cpu is enough for daily use , while the screen is one of the best 240 x 400 units I have seen, Just compare it with Wildfire to see what I mean
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hi
that is what i did and on comparing the specs looked really better but some how i dont feel the power of the much higher CPU
but Yes this audio if far far better than any HTC phone i have used Yes i do agree to this
doritos93 said:
Its important to consider the price when evaluating this phone. I got mine for 25 CAD.
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this was the real reason why i got this phone and not the Wfire on paper it had better specs and better price than he htc WF
thanks
hari

nastyba said:
I think LG OO is for the same price and you will get better GPS (Qualcomm), much better display (similiar to i3gs), RAM 512 Mb which means 2x more (faster), and no customization.
I think for 200 euro you can buy better phone. I don't understand how can Samsung release one device for more then 200 € with so much bugs )
issues with wifi, gps and display ?? why this resolution ?? Only one advantage is the google's android but I do not use any of samsung applications or widgets.
Many cheaper phones have better screen resolution.
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Yeah, the LG OO didn't come out till over a month or two after I got my Galaxy 3 (It's $50 cheaper too).. Kinda sucks, but oh well.
I've had a lot of problems with LG phones - my friend's LG Eve is a piece.. They refused to upgrade to Android 1.6 even - stuck on 1.5.. the community had to release 1.6 and 2.1/2.2 for it since LG wasn't. The screen on that phone looks wayyyy nicer than my Galaxy 3..
Having said that, I'd still prefer a phone that's getting updates - at least it shows they're somewhat trying. Plus the bugs I have either have work-arounds, or are pretty minor.

Saka911 said:
great phone! earlier I was thinking about the low res screen and low grade cpu and thinking that perhaps better I should have gone foe optimus one or X8 but there are beefits of getting a samsung like the fantastic audio quality, and good video player
The cpu is enough for daily use , while the screen is one of the best 240 x 400 units I have seen, Just compare it with Wildfire to see what I mean
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Are you sure about "fantastic audio quality"? Anyway I use earphones or external speakers, my old nokia e56 had much better audio output. I think this 240x400 is one of the worst. LG OO has much better resolution and many cheapers phones too. If they leave the resolution as on galaxy spica and it has 512 Ram, then it's superphone. But not with samy firmware. LG didn't change anything with android and I think it's much better.
I don't use their TW because it's not stable with app2sd, and without app2sd it has only about 170Mb space for your applications. Thanks to JP9 I can use app2sd + I use LauncherPro and many other applications which make this phone usable and stable.
Who did realeased JP9 ?

doritos93 said:
Its important to consider the price when evaluating this phone. I got mine for 25 CAD.
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consider also your time that you have spent by fixing samy issues
I hope this resolution will not broke my eyez first hours of using this phone I had headake

precurse said:
Yeah, the LG OO didn't come out till over a month or two after I got my Galaxy 3 (It's $50 cheaper too).. Kinda sucks, but oh well.
I've had a lot of problems with LG phones - my friend's LG Eve is a piece.. They refused to upgrade to Android 1.6 even - stuck on 1.5.. the community had to release 1.6 and 2.1/2.2 for it since LG wasn't. The screen on that phone looks wayyyy nicer than my Galaxy 3..
Having said that, I'd still prefer a phone that's getting updates - at least it shows they're somewhat trying. Plus the bugs I have either have work-arounds, or are pretty minor.
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I agree with you, I've heard also many issues about LG, but consider about this i5800 firmware. Have you ever seen a phone where wifi, gps etc... doesn't work ? That users must root the phone and fix it ? As far as I remember, I used to have xperia, nokia, HTC - but everything was working what was in specification of the device. Why they just didn't leave the lcd resolution of gala spica ? And LG have qualcome GPS processor and 2x RAM

nastyba said:
I agree with you, I've heard also many issues about LG, but consider about this i5800 firmware. Have you ever seen a phone where wifi, gps etc... doesn't work ? That users must root the phone and fix it ? As far as I remember, I used to have xperia, nokia, HTC - but everything was working what was in specification of the device. Why they just didn't leave the lcd resolution of gala spica ? And LG have qualcome GPS processor and 2x RAM
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My 8330 curve had GPS problems. A LOT if I remember correctly..
There was a special hack that needed to be done in order to fix it.
We'll see how they fix the GPS problem.. I really don't see Google allowing Samsung to screw up the GPS on their new Nexus though..

[Q] Do you recommend this phone?

Hello All,
I'm currently running a HTC Magic, and even with a custom ROM and everything It's beginning to drive me crazy with it's sluggishness, and the battery life is dying too. I'm looking to get this phone as a replacement, but it's higher than I would normally pay, so am going to sell a tonne of stuff if I go for it, so want some opinions for certain if it is worth the purchase. I haven't found a huge amount of reviews for this online, so as people that actively use it etc. would you recommend it? Also, I know it runs a 800Mhz processor, how far has it/can be it overclocked (just out of interest, not sure if it even needs it? You would know more on that).
I use my phone a lot for pretty much everything (Social networks, emails, general phone functions, games, everything really) so I'm looking for an all rounder really.
Thanks in advance everyone!

I recommend Ideos X5. Fantastic phone.

some have try the 1,8Ghz kernel overclocked but up to 1,5Ghz (another custom kernel which is very good) is running smooth (with some high temperature ) ...
at 1,2 is very nice but i prefer 1Ghz which is the best for my use and without any noticeable temperature rise...

x5 is known as a smartphone with very high price-performance ratio here in hong kong..
and in terms of price its already in the lower range of android phones available in the market.. definitely a good phone to have..

Huawei IDEOS X5 is such an all rounder~I have used it for a month,everything is fine!

Hi all,
Thanks for all your advice, I'm going to sell some stuff on eBay, and then I'll buy this phone asap! Look forward to seeing you all on the forum soon.

Yes, I do
"Your message is too short."

ioucorsa said:
some have try the 1,8Ghz kernel overclocked but up to 1,5Ghz (another custom kernel which is very good) is running smooth (with some high temperature ) ...
at 1,2 is very nice but i prefer 1Ghz which is the best for my use and without any noticeable temperature rise...
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I haven't gotten high temperature?
Highest I got from 1.7GHz with 30min stress test was 40 degree which feels pretty normal.

cirnocirno said:
I haven't gotten high temperature?
Highest I got from 1.7GHz with 30min stress test was 40 degree which feels pretty normal.
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I know nothing really on the subject, but surely overclocking to 1.7Ghz (more than double stock) can't be healthy for the CPU?

Yes, so far it's been a great phone and it's quite cheap too!

Mental_Atom said:
Hello All,
I'm currently running a HTC Magic, and even with a custom ROM and everything It's beginning to drive me crazy with it's sluggishness, and the battery life is dying too. I'm looking to get this phone as a replacement, but it's higher than I would normally pay, so am going to sell a tonne of stuff if I go for it, so want some opinions for certain if it is worth the purchase. I haven't found a huge amount of reviews for this online, so as people that actively use it etc. would you recommend it? Also, I know it runs a 800Mhz processor, how far has it/can be it overclocked (just out of interest, not sure if it even needs it? You would know more on that).
I use my phone a lot for pretty much everything (Social networks, emails, general phone functions, games, everything really) so I'm looking for an all rounder really.
Thanks in advance everyone!
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Yes the Ideos x5 is a great phone, it is fast, but i only get a day out off the battary

I have had my X5 for maybe 3 months or so and absolutely love it, was running @ 1ghz on std B133 build and I noticed a huge improvement over standard, my carrier has just rolled out B136 OTA update so am now running the 1.8ghz max image and at 1.2ghz it feels great
I love this phone so much I am fully convinced of the virtues of android so now want to upgrade to SGSII because it must just be incredible by comparison

Battery drains out fast and wifi droops out, other than that its great phone
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Mental_Atom said:
surely overclocking to 1.7Ghz (more than double stock) can't be healthy for the CPU?
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Other versions of the 2nd-Gen Snapdragon are being released at 1.4GHz so it's not surprising these can run at similar speeds. The 800Mhz 7230 is deliberately set slower to create a version with better battery life.

lawrenceh said:
Other versions of the 2nd-Gen Snapdragon are being released at 1.4GHz so it's not surprising these can run at similar speeds. The 800Mhz 7230 is deliberately set slower to create a version with better battery life.
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I see, well in that case I'll probably experiment for the best balance for speed and battery life. Should be ordering the phone next couple of weeks. Thanks for all your help!
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Not too sure what you are used to but I think this phone is well worth the price. Personally I have had no issues at all. Recommended

Hi all,
I am from Indonesia..
Does anyone had informations when this phone will be available in my country??
thanks

I have it for 3 days and I encountered no problems, not even slight ones.
The phone is amazing. If you have never used an android phone, buy it today.

Samsung Galaxy S2 review (first impressions) from point of view of Xperia X10 user

[LONG POST WARNING ]
there might be some typos and some unintentional things (tone of writing this may be)... I do not mean to offend any one... u can consider the following as a random blog post not targetting anyone
please dont laugh.. i am not good at these kind of things...
Ok now before u start flaming and start fanboy-wars on this, I suggest that u read the full content…
I AM NOT A SE FANBOY!
I have tried to provide an unbiased review of Samsung Galaxy S2 from point of view of a Xperia X10 user/android user… oh btw I am writing this considering that u use custom kernels on X10!
Some background… I have primarily used Symbain phones for almost 4-5 yrs… just last year I bought my first android phone the Xperia X10! Since then I have bought many androids for myself, my friends & family… I have personally used Motorola Milestone, SE Xperia Arc, LG Optimus One and now just last week I got the Samsung Galaxy S2 (SGS2)…
this will be sort of comparison between SGS2 and X10 and my personal opinion regrading both these devices as they CURRENTLY stand
[ THE SPECS ]
The SGS2 is a beast!
The most significant difference is the screen… Super AMOLED PLUS which quite frankly is THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DISPLAY I have EVER USED! It just blows away the LCD/LED displays (compared to X10 which has LCD display) Now before some ppl catch my throat saying that “colors are not ‘natural’” let me share with u that there is a setting provided by Samsung called “Background Effect” which basically can allow u to adjust the saturation & contrast of the images on screen! For the “natural color” minded folks u can use the “movie” option… others can enjoy the “Standard” or better “Dynamic” options…
It has 4.3’’ screen which is slightly bulky in hand and little bit hard to grip (compared to X10 which has 4’’ screen) frankly the difference is only noticeable if u are watching videos…
It has 1.2 Ghz dual core ARM-9 chips (compared to X10 single core 1 Ghz Arm-8 chip)
very powerful dedicated GPU [Mali-400] which will handle any of the latest games u can throw at it! (compared to Adreno 200 on X10)
sgs2 has 836 MB User accessible RAM (compared to 280 MB on X10)
The internal memory is eMMC so there is actually an microSD card used for system, data, etc… so the actual usable /data partition is 2GB!!!! (compared to 465MB on X10)
Also the internal sdcard has 12 GB free space [I have the SGS2 16GB version] AND there is room for additional external SDCARD!!! (compared to 8GB supplied by SE for X10)
SGS2 supports simultaneous 10 point finger recognition! Take that multi touch games!
SGS2 has lots cool features like HDMI output/USB On-the-GO [but u will need to buy these adapter/cables separately]
Front facing camera and fullHD (1920x1080p) recording are few other perks (x10 can do 720p recording)
SGS2 has 1650 mAh battery compared to 1500 mAh of X10
SGS2 has HSPA+ (21 Megabit/sec) compared to HSDPA (7.2 Megabit/sec) on X10
And ofcourse SGS2 comes with unlocked bootloader (there is a thing called download-mode binary counter which keeps a tab on how many time u flashed using the flashing tool ODIN, though this can be reset using a hack )
[ ACTUAL USAGE ]
SGS2 just comfortably cruises thru menus/etc… no lag whtsoever... menu scrolling/web browsing anything u throw at it SGS2 will just devastate it
Using live wallpaers, having 10 tabs open in browser, multitasking with a game running in the background and then scrolling thru menus it doesn’t LAG!
[ THE GOODIES ]
Ok now comes the dev aspect, with SGS2 being adapted by so many users/devs, within just 2 months of release, there are already tons of ROMs/Kernels/themes/etc…
U have the freedom to choose overclock/undervolt/overvolt kernels… there are even apps to control voltage of every frequency set! U can overclock/regulate the GPU too! Some guys over at SGS2 forums run it at 1.9Ghz without a hitch! (compared to X10 which only is able to handle 1.1 Ghz overclock)
btw this doesnt mean that i dont respect/honor our devs here at X10 sub-forums... i have a HUGE respect for them and all that they have achieved and are currently doing/working on... they have done / are doing a great job to make our terribly limited device (cause of manufacturer policies) awesome & rocking
[ THE BAD / UGLY ]
Ok the screen resolution on SGS2 is really bad... I mean seriously, a 4.3’’ screen deserves 960×540 (qHD) resolution not 800x480… sure u can change dpi but then that’s NOT TRULY changing resolution…
There is no hardware camera button! It is very funny but seriously I miss the camera button…
when will they get good XENON flash in top end android devices? i really miss the xenon flash from my old Nokia N82
another problem is that there is NO LED FOR NOTIFICATIONS
A lot of defective display units are there… I myself had this problem and had to get it replaced with a new piece… also many users at SGS2 forums have reported this…
Device heats up even using stock FW… I was playing Modern Combat 2 for 15-20 mins and I could feel the back of the device getting really warm…
NOW THE BIGGEST ISSUE there are not many apps currently available which can make use of dual core processors… may be multi-threaded/multi-core optimized apps will take time to get in but currently not many apps can make use of this…
[ MY VIEWS ]
Now from this point forward are my personal views/opinions... I am not telling u to do something… this is just wht I personally feel… if u wish u can read this whole thing and say “wht a bunch of crap… he doenst know wht he is talking abt” I don’t mind that, those are ur views these are mine
The final decision if u want to buy a new phone ALWAYS is with YOU AND YOU ONLY!
As I said before SGS2 is a great device but there are some thing to consider before u UPGRADE… keep in mind that the following views/opinions are only valid if u are upgrading from an X10 to a SGS2… if u are upgrading from sub-1Ghz phone then this will not matter...
I wouldn’t call an upgrade from X10 to SGS2 a BIG GAME CHANGING thing… there is not much difference in 4.3’’ and 4’’ screen sizes… also if u have been using custom kernels on X10 (fps uncapped /overclocked) then SGS2 feels slightly smoother… the screen/image quality is obviously better on the SGS2... But honestly 16million colors (SGS2) vs 65k colors (x10) is not that great a difference, it is only noticeable in some images/videos which have heavy gradation…
The big issues is that currently there are not many apps that can use this much power… then there is the practical issue… see u can play games/overclock/etc for some time BUT most of the time (>80%) u will be running the device @ 800Mhz to 200 Mhz (lowest speed which can be set)…
Though if u are upgrading from a 600Mhz phone (with < 3.5’’ screen size) then SGS2 is a TOTALLY different experience…
One thing to keep in mind currently most of the issues faced by us X10 users (like camera not fully working in 2.2+ custom roms, stability of custom kernels) are related to the restrictions imposed by SE… thing may improve once we get the GB update…
[ FINAL REMARKS ]
So keeping all of the above in mind here are my recommendations
Why u shouldn’t jump to dual-core bandwagon? (AS OF NOW)
If you still have a few months left on you contract and if u don’t mind a few sec delay/slight lag I recommend that u WAIT FOR NEXT generation phone… I am not talking about quad core/etc… frankly CURRENTLY there is just no point for a 2+ core phone… even 2 cores is an overkill! What I suggest is that u wait for next gen technology (28nm fabrication) which will greatly improve battery life… hold on till the apps/games can actually make use of the tremendous processing power packed into today’s dual core phones…
Who should go for this upgrade?
u just liked it
u are upgrading for < 1Ghz phones
u have the money and don’t mind spending that much for the BEST PHONE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE
u are a POWER USER and do heavy multitasking, need to play latest games at max frame rate
u want an additional phone to use (like me )
u are stuck on X10 stock 2.1 rom and don’t want to install custom roms/kernels
u are totally frustrated with the X10 and don’t want to wait for GB upgrade
why currently u shouldn’t “upgrade” to any other single core phone?
See single core phones are already very old hardware… there is no point spending so much money on a single core phone which will be outdated in next 6 to 8 months (tops)…
Instead wait for a few more months and then get a dual core phone
I hope u guys appreciate this and it helps those who are currently planning to u buy a new phone…
P.S.: I hope u have noticed that I keep saying CURRENTLY, cause all that I have psoted above (my views/opinions) is only valid for things UPTO THIS POINT (July 8, 2011 01:00 AM GMT+05:30)… technology is an every changing thing and wht is best today wont be the best (or even good) tomorrow!

WOW, nice...thanks for the review! I myself own a X10 but the current news of GB 2.3.3 & unlocked bootloader is really awesome!
Enjoy your S2 buddy

I tried a SGS2 couple of days back and only one thing annoyed me the most. The home button takes ages to wake the phone up from sleep. I know it is nothing but it annoyed me a lot Apart from that nothing to complain. I will surely get it once I can go to store
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realunited123 said:
I tried a SGS2 couple of days back and only one thing annoyed me the most. The home button takes ages to wake the phone up from sleep. I know it is nothing but it annoyed me a lot Apart from that nothing to complain. I will surely get it once I can go to store
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i disabled home screen waking it was getting annoying... better to use power button to lock/unlock device...

load of c**p!
a) dual core is using more battery than single core.
b) dual core price is much larger than single core + no full usage of dualcore.
c) single core processors won't be outdated. NEVER! Why? For example in Croatia
i payed like half my pay for year old X10 and my pay is like 600 usd per month, imagine how much would cost dual core?
Conclusion dual-core is for gamer freaks... / ppl that don't get that "lag" here or there is normal thing from pc to smart phone...
Find me one pc / phone that has never had any lag in any game / program and i will ... something with stone ...
But review is ..... long and detailed ..... and very usefull! Thanks!

Very nice and thorough review, thanks a lot!
Turns out that those were exactly my thoughts too. My cousin bought the SGS 2 and even though it feels great in use, I want to wait another year, save some serious money and buy the top phone available then.
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i disabled home screen waking it was getting annoying... better to use power button to lock/unlock device...
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Hence another problem of pressing volume button instead of power. I had it for a day and a half to play with it. BTW was it just me or it gives an alarm that battery is full!?? Dunno why Samsung made it that way.
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aZuZu said:
load of c**p!
a) dual core is using more battery than single core.
b) dual core price is much larger than single core + no full usage of dualcore.
c) single core processors won't be outdated. NEVER! Why? For example in Croatia
i payed like half my pay for year old X10 and my pay is like 600 usd per month, imagine how much would cost dual core?
Conclusion dual-core is for gamer freaks... / ppl that don't get that "lag" here or there is normal thing from pc to smart phone...
Find me one pc / phone that has never had any lag in any game / program and i will ... something with stone ...
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agree with u on some aspects BUT here is some info if u didnt already know...
dual core doenst use more battery... it only kicks in after certain speeds... so if u are idling (say 500mhz/200mhz) then only single core is active... only when u need more processing the other core (s) get active... something similar to turbo boost but the other way
My_Immortal said:
Very nice and thorough review, thanks a lot!
Turns out that those were exactly my thoughts too. My cousin bought the SGS 2 and even though it feels great in use, I want to wait another year, save some serious money and buy the top phone available then.
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great decision! till then the android market will have sufficient apps to make use of that much power...
OH BTW currently andorid doesn't native-ly support gpu based screen/UI/framework acceleration...
realunited123 said:
Hence another problem of pressing volume button instead of power. I had it for a day and a half to play with it. BTW was it just me or it gives an alarm that battery is full!?? Dunno why Samsung made it that way.
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i know! its damn annoying... pulser_g2 has a dev thread going on regarding that!

What I find absolutely stupid about Android as a whole is, that you need a frigging dualcore phone to run it smooth 'ala iOS. I mean smooth as in the UI running at a constant framerate without any dips at all. That was the only reason I was looking up to Apple's devices for a while.
Then SGS2 happened. Now I know what my next phone is.

Thanks for this great review...all i can said is that you are perfectly right about dual core phones advantages! have you already tried to compare arc display with sgs2 one?and how much better is arc compared to x10? thanks doom..nice work!
Cheers
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ooidort said:
What I find absolutely stupid about Android as a whole is, that you need a frigging dualcore phone to run it smooth 'ala iOS. I mean smooth as in the UI running at a constant framerate without any dips at all. That was the only reason I was looking up to Apple's devices for a while.
Then SGS2 happened. Now I know what my next phone is.
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well the problem is that iOS supports gpu based acceleration of UI! which android doesnt! android depends completely on CPU for UI rendering which causes this lag... u can check even on HC this is a problem... BUT once the gpu acceleration based apis are in place then OH MAN will these things fly!
djkekko89 said:
Thanks for this great review...all i can said is that you are perfectly right about dual core phones advantages! have you already tried to compare arc display with sgs2 one?and how much better is arc compared to x10? thanks doom..nice work!
Cheers
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yes dude i have compared X10 / Arc / SGS2 display... wanted to compare with iPhone4 and SGS1 but couldnt get hold of those devices...
let me put it plainly SGS2 display IS THE BEST U CURRENTLY CAN HAVE...
the colors are much better on SGS2 display (again this is personal preference)...

DooMLoRD said:
well the problem is that iOS supports gpu based acceleration of UI! which android doesnt! android depends completely on CPU for UI rendering which causes this lag... u can check even on HC this is a problem... BUT once the gpu acceleration based apis are in place then OH MAN will these things fly!
yes dude i have compared X10 / Arc / SGS2 display... wanted to compare with iPhone4 and SGS1 but couldnt get hold of those devices...
let me put it plainly SGS2 display IS THE BEST U CURRENTLY CAN HAVE...
the colors are much better on SGS2 display (again this is personal preference)...
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So..the only way to have the better screen is super amoled??cause if you want the best phone you need this kind of screen but it is made only by few manufactures..like samsung and some htc..so there not much choise!
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djkekko89 said:
So..the only way to have the better screen is super amoled??cause if you want the best phone you need this kind of screen but it is made only by few manufactures..like samsung and some htc..so there not much choise!
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see thats the thing... its not the case that Super AMOLED is the best...
its more on personal preference... w.r.t. display u can ur self check out SGS1, Nokia N8, SGS2, Arc, HTC Sensation...

Very nice review, i'd love to buy the sgs 2 too but the price is just tooo big

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Very nice review, i'd love to buy the sgs 2 too but the price is just tooo big
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just wait for a few months (2-3) till then the prices would go down by 15-20%... also that will be time then next gen processors hit the market...
@all
almost forgot... another issue of SGS2...
NO LED FOR NOTIFICATIONS

Also I heard the camera is not as good as Arc's? Atleast it records video in 1080p though

Well SE in hardware is always in time of the needs if you can see arc was the best smart phone in 2011 above SGS2 and now there is a dual core xperia smartphone on the target but of course it will come when the software is totally ready for that i would like to see the xperia duo

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What I find absolutely stupid about Android as a whole is, that you need a frigging dualcore phone to run it smooth 'ala iOS. I mean smooth as in the UI running at a constant framerate without any dips at all. That was the only reason I was looking up to Apple's devices for a while.
Then SGS2 happened. Now I know what my next phone is.
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ios runs smoothly because it's a much simpler platform than android. If apple ever get the balls to revamp their os to support homescreens and widgets, I am pretty sure the performance would dip significantly.
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Also I heard the camera is not as good as Arc's? Atleast it records video in 1080p though
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I took some photos with the SGS II and the quality was superb.
Lightning conditions were not good, but still there was very little noise,
the picture was sharp and the colors vivid.
Only thing is, there was some short of pink hue in the corners of the picture.
I don't know if that's the case for this phone, or that one was faulty.
Also, the flash is VERY BRIGHT!!!!!!
What do you think about the camera Doom?

[ THE BAD / UGLY ]
Ok the screen resolution on SGS2 is really bad... I mean seriously, a 4.3’’ screen deserves 960×540 (qHD) resolution not 800x480… sure u can change dpi but then that’s NOT TRULY changing resolution…
There is no hardware camera button! It is very funny but seriously I miss the camera button…
when will they get good XENON flash in top end android devices? i really miss the xenon flash from my old Nokia N82
another problem is that there is NO LED FOR NOTIFICATIONS
A lot of defective display units are there… I myself had this problem and had to get it replaced with a new piece… also many users at SGS2 forums have reported this…
Device heats up even using stock FW… I was playing Modern Combat 2 for 15-20 mins and I could feel the back of the device getting really warm…
NOW THE BIGGEST ISSUE there are not many apps currently available which can make use of dual core processors… may be multi-threaded/multi-core optimized apps will take time to get in but currently not many apps can make use of this…
Nice review, but these things made me happy that I haven't bought a SGS2 yet!! I would miss the camera button, led, and especially devective unit which are much of them... Very much... Great phone, but lacks of the most standard functions of a smartphone... Maybe that's why the phone is so thin... Also I've heard from many SGS2 users that there is a some kind of yellow shine on the left side of the screen. Super phone, but little things that aren't worth for this price... It's a smart choise from me to wait till any quad-core phone, and I really hope there will come a very sexy Nexus Quad-core phone. Camera is also nice, but for real recording get a camcorder LOL.
Before fanboys start screaming at me, PHONE IS GREAT but just these things...
And DooM, don't let our negative things/or things the x10 has but SGS2 not have spoil the fun. Enjoy your new super phone!
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Doom, you also talked about higher resolution. Well, that's not possible on AMOLED screens. They can only support up to what the SGS2 now has...

Pros/Cons of U8800

Hi there, this is my first post and I have an interest in this phone. Can owners of this phone please briefly state the pros and cons of this device as it would be a real help for me (and others) to decide whether I purchase this phone or not.
I will create a list in the next post weighing out all the good and the not so good features of this phone.
Thanks in advance!

List of Pros/cons
The list so far:
Pros:
- Great value
- Very fast 2nd Gen Snapdragon CPU which is easily overclockable
- Adreno 205 GPU (very good graphics)
- 512mb RAM
- 2gb Internal memory
- Large 3.8" WVGA screen
- 3g / HSDPA / Wi-Fi b/g/n / Bluetooth / GPS
- 5mp Camera with 720p HD recording
- Parts are cheap to replace (batteries, chargers etc.)
- Feature packed
- Decent battery (personal preference)
Cons:
- Bulky
- Not the best aesthetics (personal preference)
- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory and Poor touchscreen/multi-touch implementation)
- Android 2.2 (However, you can easily flash a stable 2.3.5 Rom)
- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei[
- Branding (I'm being picky )

only thing i could call a con and that's really stretching it is it's relative bulkiness.

No dual core

Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).
In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.
There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.

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Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).
In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.
There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.
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Thanks for your input. Updated list accordingly.

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Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
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Just to clarify, from lack of prestige, I meant it as if somebody asks you what phone you have, and you say Huawei U8800, they'd probably think that you have a cheap chinese model. It's not really a big thing for many people but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Pro:
- Good specs for the price
- Good battery life on 2.3.5 (unofficial)
Con:
- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)
- Real problems with official Froyo Roms, which should have never go out on the market with so many bugs/issues (not going to sleep properly, unstable wifi etc etc)
- No official Gingerbread support, even Huawei actually owns the 2.3.5. license
- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei (if you have an issue, they replace the handset and you get an identical handset with the same problem)
I would like to say, that this phone would have been one of the biggest fails on the market, if there was no support from excellent developers.
It's only because of people like Dzo, Stockwell and Genokolar, that I didn't throw this phone in the bin.
Huawei is fresh in the phone manufacturing industry and this handset reflects this aspect loud and clear. This is why no one really heard about it...

huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry

darkado said:
huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry
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I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...

katu2006 said:
I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...
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Thanks for your input. It's very disappointing that you get such a great value smartphone which is spoiled by basic features and low quality components. I'm really doubting if I should get this now.

everybody has a set of pros and cons on this phone, and i dont think its a good idea to make ur buying/non-buying decision purely basing on others comments..
for me, its only mattering "pro" is the high price-performance ratio..
(and one more now, after seeing such an active on-going development effort to make this phone better..)
and no "con" at all (as this is what i expect from a product of this price..)
thus if u think single-core cpu is a "con", no official support is a "con", little brand recognition (outside china) is a "con", u can alway pay a few bucks more to get dual-core, famous-branded models..
and honestly speaking, this phone is indeed NOT intended for everybody..
its just not as idiot-proof as iphone (as with most android phones..), not as good-looking (to some) as sensation, not as ego-boosting as sgs2, etc..
but its definitely easier to hack with, to manipulate with, and to brick with (not sure on this point though, as more flexibility does not necessarily imply easier brickability..)..
imho, its more suitable if u r the kind of person who would like to play with android instead of just using it..
as usual, the above represent my opinion only..

OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.

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OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.
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Between £150 - £200 is my budget. The U8800 is more towards the lower end of my budget and as I can get it at that price brand new, it is quite appealing. However, you can get other phones like a second hand Galaxy S for a bit more while still being within reach of my budget.
What I'm looking for is killer hardware as well as a good community which makes the phone easily hackable and 'tweakable.' Regarding the U8800, it has exactly what I'm looking for at the price point but if it falls short of basic things like the touch screen, then what can you do. Being a previous ZTE Blade owner, I was extremely impressed as basic functions were not sacrificed.

There are a lot of people that switched from the Blade to the U8800 and are quite happy it seems. I think you do not have much choices here - luckily. You can either get the galaxy s or the U8800, as you already said yourself.
If the galaxy s is in a good condition and if you can live with a phone that has no warranty anymore, I'd say go for it. For me, none of my phones ever had any hardware-problem, so I could have easily bought all of them in used condition.
It is just that buying something off ebay is risky. I do buy little stuff there every now and then, but no expensive stuff - if the seller just lies about a "little" problem and you want to return it, you probably won't see your money again. If a friend of yours sells you his used galaxy s, take it. That would be the best choice in my opinion. Either get a galaxy s that you can inspect and try out before you buy it or go for the u8800.
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Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)
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Bluetooth was reported to be problematic, yes; some people reporting it to be fine (I just use the headset sometimes and it works perfectly well). Mic also works perfectly fine for me. Camera is not as good as with other handsets, yes. It takes 10 minutes to make the memory useable, but I admit, what Huawei did there makes not even sense.
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Real problems with official Froyo Roms
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Froyo does not matter to me as it already is old and I would not recommend anybody to buy this phone if he wants to install Froyo.
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No official Gingerbread support
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That with Gingerbread is a shame, right now I hope for support in the future. Worst case: You won't get the new features... but: it works fast and stable already, so you won't miss more than the new features (whatever they are and will be...).
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Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei
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Instead we got the community. As long as everybody stays here at xda-devs or at modaco we will get support. When everybody leaves in one year or maybe in two, then you are pretty much f...on your own. On the other hand, in a year all the problems should be sorted out.
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Exactly, and now it is a fast and stable phone with android 2.3.5 - at least for me it works perfectly well.

Noob here....
I have this phone and bought it about 3 weeks ago. It's my first smartphone and did a little research on the reviews.
From my perspective, being a total noob, so far I've been really happy with the X5. Sure, battery life is horrible and the camera could be better but I've managed to take some nice shots and some OK video. For me it's great to have this capability in my pocket and liberating to be able to catch up on the day's news and podcasts siting by the pond in the backyard in the morning.
Strangely perhaps I haven't been having problems with the reported wifi problems nor any problems with the Hi Suite software from Huawei.
I have had a couple of little glitches but nothing a quick re-boot hasn't fixed.
My first android has exceeded my expectations but I come from a point of nothingness.
Towards the end of it's 1 year warranty I plan doing all what seems to be the fun things to do like rooting and other fiddling around
Even after reading about the X5 shortfalls I'm still happy with what I have and don't feel inferior at this stage.
I bought the phone for $AUD260. Have spent around $25 on apps and around a further $25 on accessories...like extra mini USB cables for my various stations where I can charge the phone, a in-car charger just in case, a case and some screen protectors.
I've been having fun on my X5 and that's what it all comes down to for me.

seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz
so it may only use 2G data service in North American

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seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz
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Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.
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Sure, battery life is horrible
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Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.

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Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.
Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.
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You're exaggerating with 3 days... The most I ever got on this phone is 51h and that without using it at all, mostly on stand by the whole time...And I've tried ALL Roms available till today.
I'm 100% sure that NOBODY got 72 h of this phone.
You probably didn't had many phones and don't have a good term of comparison...This phone has average battery life and only on Gingerbread Roms. On any Froyo Roms, you'll be lucky to get 20 h out of it.

Pros:
If you can root it and install a good ROM, it can become really fast, faster than many android phones (except dual core).
Very nice price.
It seems expensive and has a really sturdy exterior. The screen crystal is also very hard and resistant to scratches.
It is fully featured (sensors, very nice screen, high resolution, etc).
I had not the slightest problem with any of its subparts (bluetooth, GPS, camera). (Maybe I am lucky, though).
If you root it and install a good ROM, video recording becomes very good.
If you dont play with it all the time, battery lasts for one day or two.
You catch friends with iPhones 1 and 3G looking at it with envy.
You catch friends with iPhones 4 looking at you with envy, as soon as they hear its price and find out about the prices of apps at android market. (They paid for many of the apps you will get free).
Cons:
As with all smartphones, if you play demanding 3D games, in 2-3 hours you will need to find a wall socket (so this is not really a con).
Something with the multitouch doesn't seem perfect. I don't know why.
It's not an iPhone.
It has not a dual core CPU.
It's not a tablet.
If you are amongst some friends with iPhones, you will still not have one.
Conclusion: I am very happy with the X5. My wife wants to steal it from me, and she plays with it all the time. She already has finished many games on it (Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Diversion, Cut the Rope and others). I managed to read two books on it, while on vacations.
It was a good buy.

Is the phone good?

My 15 year old nephew wants a mobile. Main use will be music and free games. I was looking at Samsung Galaxy Mini and a user suggested this phone which seems to be available in India as Dell XCD35.
Is the phone good for the price.can he download and play games? How is ram and internal memory?
Would users suggest to but this phone?
I have read there are battery drain problems. Are these solved now?
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It's better than a galaxy mini because it has a better screen. Battery is as good as any other Android smartphone. 512mb ram & 512mb rom. The camera is poor, especially in low light & doesn't have any flash. Like the Galaxy mini it is a low end phone with a relatively slow armv6 cpu, so most games will work, but some of the more demanding 3D games wont work.
The ARMv6 cpu also means that it can't run the official version of Adobe Flash or Google Earth, or a few other apps.
Depending on what's available in your country & the prices it is probably the best phone for the money, but it can't compete with higher end phones (which are usually at least double the price).

yeah its a great phone
I love it. But realy you must install a custom rom because stock sucks much. Cm7 has a great battery life! I can have 2-3 days buut heavy use internet and games 1day. I love it for 130€ its great! Realy.

Thanks for the replies. I can understand that high end games won't run. But it seems a great value for money phone, the screen size and resolution are really impressive in specification, hope in reality too they are good. I will surely suggest this phone only.

Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.

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Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.
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Now I am firm that this is the phone to buy. Thanks everyone for their inputs.

The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!

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The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!
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A couple of thoughts about that one.
Dead pixels. Haven't seen one of the 10 Blades I saw.
Speaker clipping. Well the thing is at least 5 times as loud as my Desire HD and the sound of the speaker has some body.
No led, true but also alot of other phones have the same issue.
New ones use LCD not Oled, the quality of the screen is very very good.
The back, well yes, but I rather have a back were RF signals like wifi, gps etc can get thru. Wipes the floor with my Desire HD in terms of wifi, gps, phone signal and speaker

The dead pixels are somethings u really have to look for on a black background. You may have them but not even notice. About the speaker-> listen to something like Sun Is Up by Inna and you'll see how it clips. And I might have been wrong with oled or lcd... mine is TFT(Gen 2){Just saw that on the net}.

I have to agree that this phone is value for money! Overheating while charging is not much of a problem, but it`s fact. The only thing that I think the phone lacks is battery life, its poor while playing games or browsing /especially on 3G/. I`ve seen worst 3.2px cameras, so I think its barable (Using Camera 360 improves picture quality for me). As a whole, its a great phone for a great price!

I liked this phone so much when I got it that I'm now stuck with 3 of them. Blade was my first Android phone and while it was a cheap one, it was still better than any of the Nokia phones I had previously owned. Like many have mentioned, it does lack in some fronts, camera is just utterly horrible, pretty much the only thing it's good for is barcode scanning, so if you want to take decent (or even good photos), better grab a real camera with you. The speaker in Blade is INCREDIBLY good! It's the best I've heard so far and I've had way more expensive phones.

Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)

jesrani said:
Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)
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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.

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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.
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I can confirm that. Great for the money!!!