Root Questions/Help - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I searched up and down XDA and google for a solution. Here is the deal; Im trying to root my phone and Im having some issues. Im getting unknown user root in Terminal when I try to run the commands from this thread.I have both versions of Visionary and I believe I have temp rooted the phone. This is where it starts to get strange. Superuser.apk is installed, but Im never prompted for SU permissions. The only app that requested it was Visionary when I tried the permaroot option. Also, I got the system to be r/w via visionary, so I tried to delete some bloat. I used root explorer to do so. But the apks I deleted are still in the app drawer, and after reboot, are still in system/app. Im really super confused by all of this, and hope you guys can give me a hand. This is a little bit different then rooting my vibrant lol.

Dan_Brutal said:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I searched up and down XDA and google for a solution. Here is the deal; Im trying to root my phone and Im having some issues. Im getting unknown user root in Terminal when I try to run the commands from this thread.I have both versions of Visionary and I believe I have temp rooted the phone. This is where it starts to get strange. Superuser.apk is installed, but Im never prompted for SU permissions. The only app that requested it was Visionary when I tried the permaroot option. Also, I got the system to be r/w via visionary, so I tried to delete some bloat. I used root explorer to do so. But the apks I deleted are still in the app drawer, and after reboot, are still in system/app. Im really super confused by all of this, and hope you guys can give me a hand. This is a little bit different then rooting my vibrant lol.
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what's your android version? 2.3.4?

saranhai said:
what's your android version? 2.3.4?
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My bad, 2.2.1. I just got this phone yesterday. Its really nice. I cant wait to get some CM goodness on it!

Dan_Brutal said:
My bad, 2.2.1. I just got this phone yesterday. Its really nice. I cant wait to get some CM goodness on it!
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hm, try using the gfree root method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996

saranhai said:
hm, try using the gfree root method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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I still get unknown user root in terminal.

Go to theunlockr.com and find the mytouch write ups there. They are root.sh method and garanteed to work. There both how to gain root and s-off write ups there.
Its what I used and is super simple. I've rooted countless mytouch with the same write up.
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coupetastic-droid said:
Go to theunlockr.com and find the mytouch write ups there. They are root.sh method and garanteed to work. There both how to gain root and s-off write ups there.
Its what I used and is super simple. I've rooted countless mytouch with the same write up.
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Im still getting unknown user root in terminal.

Posting here the exact step and command that you're typing when receiving the unexpected response would be the first necessary step for people to help you.

Jack_R1 said:
Posting here the exact step and command that you're typing when receiving the unexpected response would be the first necessary step for people to help you.
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I type su and I get the unknown user root message.

Dan_Brutal said:
I type su and I get the unknown user root message.
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Are you temp or perm rooted?
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BRKotucs said:
Are you temp or perm rooted?
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Im trying to permaroot and s-off. I believe that Im temprooted right now.

Do you run Visionary+ before typing "su" in Terminal Emulator?
Does it complete successfully?
Can you try to run any other root program (like Titanium Backup) to verify that you actually have root access?

Jack_R1 said:
Do you run Visionary+ before typing "su" in Terminal Emulator?
Does it complete successfully?
Can you try to run any other root program (like Titanium Backup) to verify that you actually have root access?
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yes
yes
and I tried with setcpu, no root was detected.

Try another version of Visionary+, because the current version doesn't root you.
Make sure that you are indeed on 2.2.1, because if you're on 2.3.4 - Visionary can't root at all.

Jack_R1 said:
Try another version of Visionary+, because the current version doesn't root you.
Make sure that you are indeed on 2.2.1, because if you're on 2.3.4 - Visionary can't root at all.
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Its 2.2.1. I have tried both visionaryplus r11 and r12, also tried the regular visionary, super one click, and z4root. I still get unknown user root in terminal. Im starting to get frustrated.

Dan_Brutal said:
Its 2.2.1. I have tried both visionaryplus r11 and r12, also tried the regular visionary, super one click, and z4root. I still get unknown user root in terminal. Im starting to get frustrated.
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I had the same problem last week when trying to root my replacement phone after downgrading it to 2.2.1. The visionary app that I used before didn't work this time. I had to download it again and this time it worked. Before deleting the current visionary app make sure to clear it's data prior to uninstalling it then reboot the phone then try again. That worked for me!
Since you've already tried rooting it with so many methods, I'll suggest you restore the phone to factory settings and start over.
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BRKotucs said:
Since you've already tried rooting it with so many methods, I'll suggest you restore the phone to factory settings and start over.
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No dice, I have tried a reset 4 or 5 times now.

Haza! I have S-Off. I followed CM Wikis guide and it took a few times, but it worked. Thanks for all your help guys!

Dan_Brutal said:
Haza! I have S-Off. I followed CM Wikis guide and it took a few times, but it worked. Thanks for all your help guys!
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Glad to hear that! Good luck flashing...
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Did The New Update Brake My ROOT?!

I had everything working just fine, now when I enter to recovery and try to APPLY SDCARD:UPDATE.ZIP it wont work.
So I went back to the basic and flashed several PC36IMG files and when the phone boots up I have no root access! You know that little icon/s like ninja or whatever thats in the startup, its not there at all.
Also with root only apps I dont get asked for user permission like I did before. Is my evo done now or is there a fix for this?
Try unrevoked cuz that's what I had to do to get the root(user permission) after toast's method.
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update breaks root
GHOST99K said:
Try unrevoked cuz that's what I had to do to get the root(user permission) after toast's method.
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Sad to say I dont know what you mean by UNREVOKED? Is that the ROM or some method, PLEASE explain, Im sure others are having the same issue.
Thanks
UnrEVOked.com is a one click root method - but its not currently working:
sackrider dot org/category/technology/wireless-tethering-mifi-on-your-htc-evo-without-the-30-monthly-fee.html
dsackr said:
UnrEVOked.com is a one click root method - but its not currently working:
sackrider dot org/category/technology/wireless-tethering-mifi-on-your-htc-evo-without-the-30-monthly-fee.html
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unrevoked worked!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much!!!!
Now I'm just getting " signature verification failed "
Any ideas?
The new update breaks root, stop trying.
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[Q] How do I know if I am perm root or temp rooted

I stalled visionary from akaskriller.com since it wasnt on the market. I installed rom manger, titanium back up. Uinstalled some bloatware etc... But how do I know if im temp or perm rooted?????
Uncheck "run on boot" option in Visionary, pull your battery, restart the phone and try running su in terminal emulator. If you get permission denied - you're temp rooted.
Ok km going to try it now
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Hey, is your root ok? Can you help me root mine.
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I guess im still temp rooted I diff what u said and when I booted up it went straight to visionary and rooted it again so I guess I'll start over
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The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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cal3thousand said:
Manual method is soooooo easy I don't understand the desire to use VISIONary+ for permroot. Its not even real permanent root.
S-OFF is NEEDED for custom ROMs... so if you don't want to use custom ROMS, stick with temproot with VISIONary+
If you DO want custom ROMS and true R/W access, do the manual method. I see 0 point in using the one click permroot.
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Jmayes1786 said:
The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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it does not turn s-off you will have to do that youre self through terminal or adb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?
deezndc said:
So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?
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Not really, you have have s=off and not be rooted. all s=off means is the security protocol will not check to see if the phone has been tampered with. IF you have s=off and you go to visionary and click "temp toot" then "perm root" your phone will be rooted until you unroot it. Since the security protocol will not remove the SU access.

[Q] I need help rooting Mytouch 4g

i have rooted two glaciers with no problem but the second was a twain made device and the screen have me bugging out.
The one that i have now is perfect but i can not root. I have tried every method and after every method failed i did a master rest and tried different ones but no breakthrough.
Can you please help i get temp root but no perm root.
All welcome to answer.
tvotony said:
i have rooted two glaciers with no problem but the second was a twain made device and the screen have me bugging out.
The one that i have now is perfect but i can not root. I have tried every method and after every method failed i did a master rest and tried different ones but no breakthrough.
Can you please help i get temp root but no perm root.
All welcome to answer.
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Have you tried the ./gfree method? the root.sh script method?
I have tried the visionary way but s is still on.
Gfree gave my computer a virus so I was being on the safe side and not trying that again.
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tvotony said:
I have tried the visionary way but s is still on.
Gfree gave my computer a virus so I was being on the safe side and not trying that again.
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WTF? gfree gave you virus? care to elaborate on that? that is the first time I heard of this in XDA. Far as Visionary go did you follow it exact step by step?
I did everything they told me for visionary.
But with gfree when setting up adb the link from google some reason gave me a virus from the recommend download
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Rooting: Help, can't get passed Step 6

Ok, I'm ready to root my phone and wanted to install CyanogenMod on my MyTouch 4g. I'm following their wiki document (can't post the link here, it won't let me), but can't get passed step #6. When I enter the string "adb push su /sdcard/su", I get "failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard/su' : Permission Denied
I skipped down a few steps and tried the 3rd line, "adb push rage /data/local/tmp/rage", it returned "5 kb/s (5392 bytes in 1.00s)." So that appears to have worked.
Any ideas?
Chicago T said:
Ok, I'm ready to root my phone and wanted to install CyanogenMod on my MyTouch 4g. I'm following their wiki document (can't post the link here, it won't let me), but can't get passed step #6. When I enter the string "adb push su /sdcard/su", I get "failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard/su' : Permission Denied
I skipped down a few steps and tried the 3rd line, "adb push rage /data/local/tmp/rage", it returned "5 kb/s (5392 bytes in 1.00s)." So that appears to have worked.
Any ideas?
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Try using this method
Link to post
If you wish to use the CM method you need to download/install VISIONary, and temp root the phone phone with "set system to r/w" and "run VISIONary.sh" both checked marked. prior to doing anything.
IF the link i supplied earlier i would high suggest looking for the thread called "post your eMMC serial number" in the general section, some information you might want to read.
neidlinger said:
Try using this method
Link to post
If you wish to use the CM method you need to download/install VISIONary, and temp root the phone phone with "set system to r/w" and "run VISIONary.sh" both checked marked. prior to doing anything.
IF the link i supplied earlier i would high suggest looking for the thread called "post your eMMC serial number" in the general section, some information you might want to read.
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Thats weird, cuz the CM method states to uninstall VISIONary before continuing. Wow, now I'm really confused!
If I follow the link you posted, will I still be able to install CM?
Chicago T said:
Thats weird, cuz the CM method states to uninstall VISIONary before continuing. Wow, now I'm really confused!
If I follow the link you posted, will I still be able to install CM?
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The link i posted will turn your s-off, so yes you can do what ever you want given you know what your doing.
just a side-note, once your s-off you can flash whatever MyTouch 4G ROM you want. Cyanogen or other.
just make sure to install the Recovery Image. That is where you flash stuff from.
and keep in mind that is a Wikipage, anyone can edit it. Someone may of removed it.
When you see a "permission denied", that means you have a lack of SU access. Visionary will restore that SU access.
Wow, thanks for the info. I think your few posts put all the research i've done into perspective. Just to clarify, when you say "install the recovery image," what exactly do u mean? Is that like running the ClockWorkMod Recovery in ROM Manager?
Chicago T said:
Wow, thanks for the info. I think your few posts put all the research i've done into perspective. Just to clarify, when you say "install the recovery image," what exactly do u mean? Is that like running the ClockWorkMod Recovery in ROM Manager?
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pretty much, you can download Clockwork ROM Manager from the market place and having it "flash the recovery image". Or if you are familiar with ADB you can download the image directly from Koush's website and flash it from the ADB command prompt.
neidlinger said:
pretty much, you can download Clockwork ROM Manager from the market place and having it "flash the recovery image". Or if you are familiar with ADB you can download the image directly from Koush's website and flash it from the ADB command prompt.
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So I followed your link, and managed to get S=OFF, but when I go into ROM Manager or any other root-required app, it tells me I'm not rooted? Do I need to run VISIONary yet again? Man....
Chicago T said:
So I followed your link, and managed to get S=OFF, but when I go into ROM Manager or any other root-required app, it tells me I'm not rooted? Do I need to run VISIONary yet again? Man....
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Yes tap temp root then perm root
[sent via Cyanogen powered Android]
Wait how'd u get the s off which steps I did my old phone n It worked but the new one j got from insurance I can't get s off
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neidlinger said:
Yes tap temp root then perm root
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Wow, the instructions don't say that! I'm all confused. So I went ahead and did that, then go into ROM Manager, go thru the steps of installing CM7. It confirms my actions, then reboots. Upon bootup, I get the red-triangle. Battery-pull and back to square 2, I think... (since I still have s=off)
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keji13 said:
Wait how'd u get the s off which steps I did my old phone n It worked but the new one j got from insurance I can't get s off
Hi. I used the link/files posted above. It signed to do the trick, but I'm stuck here now, as in, can't get CM loaded...
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keji13 said:
Wait how'd u get the s off which steps I did my old phone n It worked but the new one j got from insurance I can't get s off
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Some phones are tricky and wont root with the same methods. If you are daring you may try gfree method, but again like above read the emmc serial thread to gain perspective on whats happening with supposedly inferior emmc chips.
Ok ill look into that cause I tried this method didn't work was gonna try adb method Idk to much bout gfree
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Try the video tutorial on the unlockr.com. It showed me the Visionary step (which is the most effective way and better) and how to s-off.
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Ok, I'll give that a try. I've been trying to install a custom rom on my phone for over a month now! Man...
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Chicago T said:
Ok, I'll give that a try. I've been trying to install a custom rom on my phone for over a month now! Man...
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Without sounding like a jackwagon. You might want to take a peek into the "post your eMMC serial number" thread under the general section. It's becoming obvious that if you cannot root with the root.sh method your phone might have a bad eMMC. I would highly encourage you to look into that, along with the thread in my signature to get ADB up and running to determine if you have a serial number for a problematic eMMC.
If you do have have a problematic eMMC, i wouldn't perma root it or flash a new ROM.
neidlinger said:
Without sounding like a jackwagon. You might want to take a peek into the "post your eMMC serial number" thread under the general section. It's becoming obvious that if you cannot root with the root.sh method your phone might have a bad eMMC. I would highly encourage you to look into that, along with the thread in my signature to get ADB up and running to determine if you have a serial number for a problematic eMMC.
If you do have have a problematic eMMC, i wouldn't perma root it or flash a new ROM.
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Hahhaha, "sounding like a jackwagon!" that was funny. I'll check it out, thanks for all your help...
I have yet...
to figure out how to root my MyTouch 4g, nothing seems to work!
To All Those That Helped...
I was finally able to root my phone and start installing custom roms. In fact, I think I've turned into a ROM-Whore.
What I think did it, someone previous wrote, there seems to be a delay with the cache partition on the MT4Gs. So after I got S=off, I didn't immediately try and run Visionary again. Instead, I waited several hours (not by choice, something came up). When I attempted after that, whallla!
I've since been wiping and flashing, wow.
Now if I can get Swype to install.... LOL
I had trouble getting s-off with the unlockr,adb,wiki,z4root,newer visionary guides. Just gave up last night after that, he next morning did another search and found this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995549
I had s-off in like 2 minutes... smh
THANK YOU HTC for finally realizing this shyt is a headache and unlocking your future phones /rant

[Q] OTA update mt4g w/VISIONary+

aight, I tried searching, and the few threads that mentioned this, was for full rooted phones... I'm on stock sense, permarooted using VISIONary+, etc... I got the OTA update at 12am, tried to do it, and the phone locked up on the screen with the phone and a red lightning bolt... did a battery pull, did the "unroot" via VISIONary, and the phone works fine... am I going to receive the OTA update again, or should I DL the zip file from the other thread, put it on my SD card, and power up + volume key, etc... pretty much, any help or suggestions is appreciated... lol
kevo817 said:
I'm on stock sense, permarooted using VISIONary+, etc... I got the OTA update at 12am
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Impossible. You must not be truly perm rooted since rooted phones (even those running the stock ROM), don't get OTA updates. You must have TEMP rooted with Visionary. The only way to truly perm root with Visionary is in conjunction with the root.sh script.
i didn't edit any script past what visionary does... it's probably the equivalent of a temproot, but I don't have to redo it every time I reboot... I haven't touched it in months... I used the unroot function, so I'm not sure if the "run visionary.sh after root" or the "set system r/w after root" were checked... I know jack **** about this stuff, that's why I'm here... lol
this means youre not rooted. so if you want the update just walk in to a tmo store and have them update it with their sd card update.
That's funny.. my superpower, shootme, and TI backup are working... like I said.. I didn't s-off root my phone, but I do have SU privledges
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kevo817 said:
That's funny.. my superpower, shootme, and TI backup are working... like I said.. I didn't s-off root my phone, but I do have SU privledges
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Somehow your temp root is sticking after a reboot. Superpower? It's called Superuser. Sorry, but I LOLed at that.
TeeJay3800 said:
Somehow your temp root is sticking after a reboot. Superpower? It's called Superuser. Sorry, but I LOLed at that.
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SU is stuck too, but the app is called SuperPower... it's a battery management app, but after reading further, root isn't required, just recommended to use all of the features
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/superpower-battery-saving-app-updated/

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