Ford Sync Hacking anyone? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Anyone here know anything about hacking the Ford Sync navigation systems? Im told its windows mobile based, maybe windows ce? I really dont know for sure.
what i really want to do is let my android take over the touchscreen so my phone will be displayed on the nav screen. Just cant find many people who want to experiment with their cars. Ill be willing to test but need help developing.
If anyone else is interested in this project please let me know!

FORD Sync is based on the Microsoft Windows Embedded Automotive operating system. It should be possible to pair this WinCE unit with your Android based phone via Bluetooth. Bluetooth enables information to be sent between electronic devices that have Bluetooth.

Im not talking about pairing the phone with sync, im talking about my phone taking over sync.
I, like many others, want to use and access apps from the touchscreen. For example, i like google nav. I want to have google navigation displayed on my sync touchscreen and audio from my car speakers. same for pandora, ect.
OR, car home?
I do not believe Bluetooth is fast enough to handle the video, so this project will likley require the device to be plugged into the usb port.
A start will be hacking in and installing a feature that displays video from the usb. next steps would be getting the touch screen to work with the device and support audio(audio can be via Bluetooth anyways)

I would be happy if you could shell out to the CE interface
I have done some programming on CE and XP Embedded and we used to program with almost a full desktop installed then at last minute before delivery to customer we would remove most of the windows interface except a blank desktop and an application launch icon only. I wish we could enable all of the modules in this release. Pretty much anything windows can do...
On Sync if we could still run the standard apps and shell out to use the functionality of CE or XPE that would be awesome. Then you could just use visual studio express and program away for free. (may have to buy CE plugin ) Many Apps are available already.
Oh well I doubt any of this will happen but I would even pay for the keys to unlock Sync from Ford if they offered it!

What about Raspberry Pi integration rather than an Android? If the nav could be used as a display and input interface, the possibilities would be endless. Where can we start?

cjranucci said:
What about Raspberry Pi integration rather than an Android? If the nav could be used as a display and input interface, the possibilities would be endless. Where can we start?
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Good thing i have 2.
Thats the big question, how to use the nav screen that way. The RP would probably be better since it will be way easier to add the touchscreen interface. I wonder if we could just configure the screen to have a 2nd input that can be switched back and forth? sound would be an issue but a good second step.

I know this is an old post but here is a link. Ford finally open sourced their information. http://openxcplatform.com/

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Need to display actual PDA screen on attached PC - ideas??

I'm a .NET server-side developer who's 100% new to PDA programming. I know the various SDKs exist but I haven't downloaded them or their associated emulators. I've skimmed the MS docs, but I haven't played with them to see what they can really do.
I'm looking for the sort-of opposite of an emulator.
We have PDA-connected software that we're demo-ing at a tradeshow. But the real demo is of the server-side stuff we've built; the PDA is essentially a dumb terminal using only its built-in browser & Outlook.
We need to run the demo on the real PDA but have the results visible to a large audience. So the goal is to somehow make the PDA's screen appear on our VGA projector that'll spray the image on the large screen behind the presenter.
Right now our first-cut plan is to have the PDA connected to a PC via the sync cradle. Then all we need is some software on either the PC or the PDA that'll drag the real-time screen image to the PC.
Does anyone know of such a program?
In the alternative, do the MS SDK emulators include the full functionality of a typical PDA, such as browser & Outlook so I can simply use the emulator and the PC's network connection to simulate the browser/Outlook & over-the-air connectivity, with no real PDA in the demo? The demo doesn't need any telephony capability, just TCP/IP connectivity.
If the emulators do have that capability, which one(s) do I need? There are a bunch of SDKs and emulators available & I don't really have time to grab them all and uninstall - reinstall hunting for the right one. We're looking for something that's American-market compatible and we don't much care which specific hardware device(s) it's emulating.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'll return the favor somehow.
hi,
if you need to show the PDA acreen on your PC monitor then you can use aprogram called PPC controller.
it even anables you to control the PDA from the PC.
http://www.soti.net/
hope thats what you are looking for.
Thanks, that was EXACTLY what I was looking for.
It'll also be a big hit around here for a bunch of other uses. All that and inexpensive as well.
Thanks again, and the next time you have some server-side .NET headscratcher, send me a note. I owe you one.
Another option is the free powertoy for PocketPC MS Remote Desktop Control and Activesync.
If the device has Bluetooth like the XDA2 then you can ActiveSync using Bluetooth and the presenter can wander within about 10 meters of the PC with the bluetooth connection and teh projector.

Wizard as a Vista Sideshow device?

You'd think it would be built in, but does anyone know if it will be possible to use the Wizard as a Windows Sideshow device in Vista? I got a horizontal dock for this thing just so I'd be able to run a gadget or two on it, but I'm surprised they didn't have it working out of the box ... with the popularity of the Wizard at Microsoft.
A quick search on google shows that there is quite a lot of interest for this.
IMO, it is almost certain this functionality will be added to Windows Mobile devices; lets just hope they don't limit it to WM6 devices.
Jörg
Very Good idea, I got some old phones with 2.5" LCD working, it is now time to wake them!
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
jacob-mda said:
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
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I guess they meant side show not slide show
whats the difference lol
jacob-mda said:
whats the difference lol
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Sideshow is a technology included with Windows Vista that allows for an external LCD to display widgets, even with the PC powered off. This allows you to see at a glance the weather, if you have e-mail, etc. It's primary use is in tiny LCDs on notebook covers, though if you could use your mobile for this, that would be really neat too.
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
alandashby said:
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
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Can you upload that beta?
V J said:
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
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This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6
looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
computer9cowboy said:
This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6 looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
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Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
V J said:
Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
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I wasn't crapping on it, I think it looks cool. I wish it worked for me. I would rather have WM6 than a 320x240 extension to my desktop though. I already have a dual monitor setup.
Sidewindow can be alternative of sideshow but you have to run samurize plugins on that display to look like sideshow. Microsoft states that mobile devices can be used as sideshow with vista, i have tryed many ways and i have no success with this task
I saw one of the Microsoft Powerpoint presentations on their website presenting the sideshow feature and one of the devices among the usual picture frames and things was actually a Smartphone, it looks like in house at microsoft they have done it but jsut not yet for us. EDIT: See http://download.microsoft.com/downl...56b-d47a59388df0/pdc_2005_auxilarydisplay.ppt
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
V J said:
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
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Works on WiFi with Server 2003 and WM6 as the client. Very cool, not very usefull but very cool.
Could someone post the Pocket PC and Windows Vista files for ZoneScreen? Unfortunately, the author has removed all the files from his site in favor of the open source release (http://sourceforge.net/projects/zonescreen/) which only has the files for Windows XP.
Best uses for Sideshow
The best usage of this will be with remote controls for Media Center PC's. You'll be able to sit outside on the porch and browse your music files or other media without needing to see the TV screen. This way you can have speakers outside and you can play whatever music you want. Added functionality will be when they finally make the app for windows mobile devices so that you won't even need a third party remote. With 3G devices such as the Hermes (8525) you won't even need to connect via wifi or bluetooth. You'll see all your album art, receive feedback of "now playing" items, etc. It will turn your pda into an expensive 2-way touchpanel such as Crestron, AMX, or ELAN offer. I say screw the laptops. Check out this link and then imagine that on your PDA.
<http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/21/ricavisions-vista-mce-sideshow-remote-does-bluetooth-at-100-met/>
All those complaining about why it doesn't work on vista:
You need ActiveSync for this application which has been replaced with Mobile Device User Center, so it doesn't work. I hope there's an update on the way to make it work, because in partnership with konfabulator widgets, it's incredible. It had it built in a case, and it displayed all the systems specs via widgets.

Bluetooth Media Remote Control??

I know there are more than a few threads about this specific topic, but most of them are outdated, and none fits this purpose.
I have an WM 6.5 updated Rhodium, which I would like to use as an multimedia remote for my Windows 7 PC....
What I want in a remote control
Uses touchscreen (and possibly g-sensor)
Can control WMP, VLC, PowerPoint, and maybe Media Center
Uses bluetooth
As far as possible, a touch-friendly interface
Tried Programs
BT Remote Control (by Jérôme LABAN)
http://www.jaylee.org/RemoteControl/
Great remote, used it alot on my old TyTN II.... but! It doesen't support the touchscreen, which means you have to use the keyboard every time... If this app had proper touchscreen support, it would be perfect. Unfortunately the last update is from March 2008, and it doesen't seem he updates anymore...
GRemote
Gremote homepage
Seems cool, especially the thing about using g-sensor for joystick. Unfortunately, the installation doesn't work for me. I do not know if it is Windows 7, my phone (didn't work on 6.1 either), or the program itself that is malfunctioning. I cannot get proper connection, and the client is stalling... alot.
Are there any other alternatives?
Hi, have a look in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574593
We are trying to get as many contributors as possible at the moment.

[Q] windows media center remote and dvr from anywhere

I have a question, and possibly a challenge to you programmers out there. Is there any program for windows media center where i can browse the TV guide from far away not LAN and select things to record?
there is a program called "phone my PC" that lets me remotely connect to my PC from anywhere with cellular service or WiFi connection. However all the WMC remotes i have seen use LAN. Also, all seem to require me to be in front of the screen.
If none exist, im sure there are many people who would love a polished remote control app that would let you
1 browse the guide and set programs to record from work.
2 browse through recorded programs on your phone WITH thumbnails while your
already watching a program
3 has all the other functionality that the "myremote" already has
4 please make it work on vista
Any other ideas?
http://ww2.fatattitude.com/software/software-about-remotepotato.aspx
You could try remote potato. There was a guy who started making an android version but I think he gave up.
jgittins said:
You could try remote potato. There was a guy who started making an android version but I think he gave up.
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looks like a really cool program.. it seems to use a web browser from another pc to control a home pc..
if he didnt give up as u say he may have, all he would need to add is the remote control features in "myremote" and blend it in with the rest of the features for the perfect all in one app..
with a lot of polish, and im talking the kind of polish put into the android OS itself. i would be willing to pay some nice coin for such an app.
Big screen global has a remote guide via mobile browser, they currently have a windows 7 app, might make an android one also. works well for me
http://bigscreenglobal.com/bgbyrwp7.aspx?PID=BSRV1

Windows software on Android

Hello
I am trying to find a way to run some software I have for the pc on an android divice.
I would like to get some car diagnostic software to run which has to be connected to the car through usb to ODB2 port on the car.
Is there and emulator or some such software I can install on the android pad to get this running?
This would be so cool if I can get this running.
I found a stereo with an android 2.1 tab attached which is the screen for the stereo.
Anyway if anyone has any ideas then please let me know.
Thanks
Alex
Short answer: No.
Long answer: If it's DOS application, maybe. But I doubt it'll be able to access any of the device ports. If it's a Windows application, forget it.
Your best bet is to look for similar apps on Android. They DO exist... The market has several apps that read car diagnostics over bluetooth, some might also work over USB. There are bluetooth adaptors available for your ODB2 port.
FloatingFatMan said:
Short answer: No.
Long answer: If it's DOS application, maybe. But I doubt it'll be able to access any of the device ports. If it's a Windows application, forget it.
Your best bet is to look for similar apps on Android. They DO exist... The market has several apps that read car diagnostics over bluetooth, some might also work over USB. There are bluetooth adaptors available for your ODB2 port.
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Just a thought, could he run a linux distro on the A500 and use Wine (windows emulator) to run the application?
mectec said:
Just a thought, could he run a linux distro on the A500 and use Wine (windows emulator) to run the application?
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Wine Is Not an Emulator.
x86 != Arm
alex3811 said:
Hello
I am trying to find a way to run some software I have for the pc on an android divice.
I would like to get some car diagnostic software to run which has to be connected to the car through usb to ODB2 port on the car.
Is there and emulator or some such software I can install on the android pad to get this running?
This would be so cool if I can get this running.
I found a stereo with an android 2.1 tab attached which is the screen for the stereo.
Anyway if anyone has any ideas then please let me know.
Thanks
Alex
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Try ths its something i stumbled on to a few days ago havnt looked into it or tried it but it might be worth looking into
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/run-virtual-windows-programs-android-phone-32430.html
gears177 said:
Try ths its something i stumbled on to a few days ago havnt looked into it or tried it but it might be worth looking into
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/run-virtual-windows-programs-android-phone-32430.html
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Citrix? You're kidding, right? Do you even know how Citrix works? It's essentially a kind of remote desktop. The applications don't run on your machine, they run on a server. A server which you have to pay up mucho cashola for and configure correctly.
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Citrix? You're kidding, right? Do you even know how Citrix works? It's essentially a kind of remote desktop. The applications don't run on your machine, they run on a server. A server which you have to pay up mucho cashola for and configure correctly.
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And even if he had access to Citrix XenDesktop virtualized Windows I don't know if it would allow him to use car service software by connecting OBD2 interface to the tablet. Even if the port I/O could be forwareded to remote machine as a virtualized USB port the latency would make the OBD software very ustable.
Can't tell you about connecting it to the ODB2 port but as for x86 emulation on a arm device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
Bochs is the only thing I could find.
alex3811 said:
Hello
I am trying to find a way to run some software I have for the pc on an android divice.
I would like to get some car diagnostic software to run which has to be connected to the car through usb to ODB2 port on the car.
Is there and emulator or some such software I can install on the android pad to get this running?
This would be so cool if I can get this running.
I found a stereo with an android 2.1 tab attached which is the screen for the stereo.
Anyway if anyone has any ideas then please let me know.
Thanks
Alex
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I mentioned it before, but didn't bother to post any links, not that the OP has bothered to reply, but anyway..
THIS is what he's looking for, with no silly emulation bullpoop.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=odb2
That took all of 2 seconds to search for...
BTW it is NOT ODB2. It is OBD2 as in On-Board Diagnostics level 2 .
Bleh. The search still worked!
Torque works really well I use it to get codes and you can monitor real time info from all of the sensors attached to your ecu. You can also do data logging. If your trying to run tuning software( like hp tuner or ROMraider) you are prolly out of luck.
Whenever I need to use a windows app, I just use TeamViewer and remote into my PC. I can run any windows app I want to and see it on my display. If I'm not in a Wifi area, I tether from my 4G phone.
Rippster said:
Whenever I need to use a windows app, I just use TeamViewer and remote into my PC. I can run any windows app I want to and see it on my display. If I'm not in a Wifi area, I tether from my 4G phone.
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Did you actually read the op? Teamviewer is totally useless for this, as is ANY form of remote running application.
FloatingFatMan said:
Did you actually read the op? Teamviewer is totally useless for this, as is ANY form of remote running application.
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Tru dat. Not sure what I was thinking when I posted that....I think my mind was just stuck in the subject line and not the meat of the post.
How about the upcoming Windows 8? Will it support our A500?
No.
How did we stretch "no" into two pages?
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