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Best way to tether?

I've got an Epic on stock official sprint froyo (2.2.1) and my wifi xoom (OTA updated to 3.2 as soon as I unboxed it). What I'm curious about is input on the best way to tether the xoom through my epic for data when not in reach of wireless.
USB tether seems cumbersome (cables, ick), and so far the only instructions I've found for that were relating to PC's. Wi-fi hotspot you either need to root your phone or pay for the privilege (I'd rather root my phone since I've got the 'everything' plan and that should be part of 'everything'!). I've seen snippets of remarks about using bluetooth but is that only for SMS style data and not full internet type capabilities?
I'm delaying rooting just yet because of the (hopefully) imminent release of gingerbread for the epic, but I'm very interested in finding out all my options since I doubt there will be other updates for the epic after 2.3 and plan to open up use of my xoom when not at home on my wi-fi soon thereafter.
TIA!

Why do people want a $20 per month feature for free but are NOT willing to root? You have one of the easiest phones to root since you can flash over the phones kernel with ODIN. Do it now, dont wait on sprint since samsung phones are pretty open.
wireless tether with samsung epic 4g profile will tether to the xoom fine.

Kippui said:
Why do people want a $20 per month feature for free but are NOT willing to root? You have one of the easiest phones to root since you can flash over the phones kernel with ODIN. Do it now, dont wait on sprint since samsung phones are pretty open.
wireless tether with samsung epic 4g profile will tether to the xoom fine.
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He is right also I am quite sure rooting it will give you a lot more options than you have now. If you do not want to root try PDANET tablet, it works and no root required...
I say root though...

I'm willing to root, just been waiting for each update to roll out. I've been avoiding the buggy leak releases. It seemed like every time there was a release for the epic platform, news of the next greatest thing would come along and if I'm attached to anything on my phone it's the data (as in not wanting to wipe my phone and spend a few hours trying to re-setup all the home screens, redownload my apps and etc).
So the plan is with 2.3 I will finally root it because honeycomb is a tablet OS, and ice cream sandwich will almost certainly never be on anything but the latest/greatest hardware.
So.. yes, I will be rooting my phone after the gingerbreat OTA which doesn't require me to wipe it clean. Now I just need to figure out which of the billion and one 'one click root' methods to use and find out if there are any preferred hotspot apps. That's a question for the epic forums though.
Thanks, folks :]

Anyone know when my P6800 will get ICS?

OK, still waiting on ICS for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 (P6800).
Neither trying OTA from the menu on the Tab (always 'No Updates Found') nor using Kies ('Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies') results in an upgrade.
These are the reported firmware levels (from Kies and the internal system info menu)
PDA:LA2 / PHONE:LA1 / CSC:LA2 (XSG)
P6800ZSLA2/P6800ZZHLA2/P6800XXLA1/P6800ZSLA2 (XSG)
It was bought in the UK but it's an import and I think that the above levels mean it's a Hong Kong model - for which an ICS upgrade has been available for some time. Yet still no dice.
Anyone know what gives? Is it maybe because I'm currently running a UK data SIM in the device which might be confusing region ID?
It's getting close to the point where I might try ODIN and a ROM sourced off the net but I'd much prefer to get it done the 'official' way and I'm a bit worried that something might be preventing an upgrade.

why wait for the ;Official' that may not come to you via OTA..?
Go for the flash of XXLQ2//.. via PC Odin... it's fast and easy and looks official...because it IS official only if your in Austria... But is golden for the rest of s.. I use it in the USA,, and it;s super sweet..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469635
look here for the files and instructions....
good luck
youre worried about 'preventing an official up-date'...
that's what's happenning now to your area!!!
The next up-date over ICS will be Jelly Bean...
and when that comes....
here comes PC Odin agian to flash Official Jelly Bean...
read this too..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1848967&highlight=official+ics
Why wait.. enjoy your Ice cream NOW!

i have a TGY Hong Kong tab, bought it in Algeria and when I plugged it to my computer running kies, an update was available, even here in Algeria with my Algerian sim card,
i don't think its related to the country where you are, but to the original csc inside the tab.
as far as I know, the wifi bug come from a different csc ICS rom than the stock HC that was inside the tab (exemple : stock TGY honeycomb 3.2 to Austria ICS 4.0.4 causes wifi bug, people who updated straight from original hc to ics with Kies didn't have the wifi bug) , better wait for Kies updates (i think)
best regards
Sifou
Galaxy Tab 7.7

Yeah, that's why I've waited for the official update but my patience is being severely tested.
I can see why the iPad is so attractive - a lot less mucking around with tweaking things and updates are pretty straightforward. No wondering if your particular device is going to receive an update from whoever made it or the carrier.

Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
Yeah, that's why I've waited for the official update but my patience is being severely tested.
I can see why the iPad is so attractive - a lot less mucking around with tweaking things and updates are pretty straightforward. No wondering if your particular device is going to receive an update from whoever made it or the carrier.
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Samsung has almost always been known for their tardiness in updates. Quite frustrating indeed for many. But IMHO that doesn't come close to making me lean towards iOS. Often there are methods to update or modify Samsung devices in spite of the lack of "official" updates.
Yes, Apple makes fine devices for users who could care less about taking an active role in making their devices their own. To them I say "Go for it." We who find it enjoyable to tweak our devices, iOS isn't an option. I owned an iPad for a month until I found it less than useful. My android devices did the same tasks often better.
To each their own I suppose!

skeeterpro said:
Samsung has almost always been known for their tardiness in updates. Quite frustrating indeed for many. But IMHO that doesn't come close to making me lean towards iOS. Often there are methods to update or modify Samsung devices in spite of the lack of "official" updates.
Yes, Apple makes fine devices for users who could care less about taking an active role in making their devices their own. To them I say "Go for it." We who find it enjoyable to tweak our devices, iOS isn't an option. I owned an iPad for a month until I found it less than useful. My android devices did the same tasks often better.
To each their own I suppose!
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I like tweaking technology for fun - but I don't want to have to tweak and manage just to get something usable.
With Honeycomb, the tablet falls way short of expectations. It's not unusable but it the HC-associated lag certainly isn't something I like to live with. The least I would expect is a prompt update to ICS to deliver upon the promises of the hardware and the fact that my device hasn't received an upgrade almost a full year after the OS was released is a joke.

Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
I like tweaking technology for fun - but I don't want to have to tweak and manage just to get something usable.
With Honeycomb, the tablet falls way short of expectations. It's not unusable but it the HC-associated lag certainly isn't something I like to live with. The least I would expect is a prompt update to ICS to deliver upon the promises of the hardware and the fact that my device hasn't received an upgrade almost a full year after the OS was released is a joke.
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I am in complete agreement with you. The 7.7 was just OK with HC. It worked but that was about it. Which is why I went ahead and flashed the Austrian ICS ROM. Never looked back!

But why does it have to take so long to roll out. Many countries already have it quite a while. I live in The Netherlands and I am anxiously waiting. Hurry, please hurry!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

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OK, still waiting on ICS for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 (P6800).
Neither trying OTA from the menu on the Tab (always 'No Updates Found') nor using Kies ('Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies') results in an upgrade.
These are the reported firmware levels (from Kies and the internal system info menu)
PDA:LA2 / PHONE:LA1 / CSC:LA2 (XSG)
P6800ZSLA2/P6800ZZHLA2/P6800XXLA1/P6800ZSLA2 (XSG)
It was bought in the UK but it's an import and I think that the above levels mean it's a Hong Kong model - for which an ICS upgrade has been available for some time. Yet still no dice.
Anyone know what gives? Is it maybe because I'm currently running a UK data SIM in the device which might be confusing region ID?
It's getting close to the point where I might try ODIN and a ROM sourced off the net but I'd much prefer to get it done the 'official' way and I'm a bit worried that something might be preventing an upgrade.
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Was your device rooted? i encountered the same situation after i rooted my device.
i guess,your second statement might be a possibility as well since [IMHO] [IDK but] the update might have been released internationally as of now.

You may try this ROM. You need to root your device of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838391

Note 10.1 questions

Heyo!
Before buying the Note 10.1 i have a few questions.
Here we go:
1. Can I somehow flash an samsung original firmware which is able to receive OTA updates from Samsung? I only need root and the original samsung firmware, since the software features are my main reason for buying (i will study physic, and this will help!)
2. Whats the difference between gt 8010 and 8013?
3. do you think we will get an 4.2 Update? I think 4.1.1 is released, isn´t it?
thanks in advance!

There many post which will answer your question.
The difference between all version is country specific changes like some are with 3G and voice calling, only 3G, Wif. Then there are some country specific version and 8013 is USA specific version apart from that nothing really.
Only Germany has recieved the JB update around three weeks back others are waiting. As for 4.2 we should eventually get it but I think now Samsung is busy rolling out 4.1.1 for all its devices.

Ok since i live in Germany that should be no problem
Only one question.. as far as i can see only the 3G version got the JB update....
Will the Wifi version get it as well?

Eventually all version will get JB updates and since new Note devices are being launched with JB i think it will happen pretty soon.
Also one strange thing is the Germany update is to carrier based device and not the stock Samsung device there does not look any difference between the two but its a strange thing.
Also there are some issues being reported if you use the rom on the wifi version which is logical since its not made for it

Then i think i will buy that Tab
Enormous power inside, JB update soon, cheap at the moment (in germany..) and has best functionality as student.... nothing more to wish!

Bad updating experience with Samsung

Hello guys, how are you doing?
I just wanted to share with you my own opinion over how Samsung deals with updates to a Galaxy Note 10.1.
Actually, many users have reported software bugs in Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung confirmed many like the bug of clipboard. But the bad part is Samsung ignorance of bug fixing. It is good that we will receive 4.1.2 update with premium suite preinstalled, but it is bad that we did not receive a bug fixing package!
It has been several months since the launch of the Note 10.1 that many owners of the product started to get frustrated of the bugs. I cannot copy an article and save it as note in S Note app or share it in Facebook!
Besides, Samsung released JB 4.1.1 update to some regions, stopped then started releasing 4.1.2 in the time users still have the buggy 4.0.4 for many months in several countries, if not most! Even though 4.1.1 has stability issues, Samsung shall fix current bugs of 4.0.4 before caring to release a major 4.1.2, as this needs a quite long time by Samsung for a frustrating bug to remain!
Software is as important as hardware. I do not care for receiving a new major update with hundreds of new features, as we will receive it soon or later! But for me, a stable software with only two features is far far better than a buggy one with hundreds of cool features that I am unable to use!
Samsung used to release improvement packages and push them to their software update server for their products, but it is really strange why this is not the case for Note 10.1!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

You write that you are still on N8000XXLGA.
Sorry man, but it is your fault if you chose not to update by flashing the newest firmware.
Thanks to Samsung, Samfirmware and XDA, you have this option.
Other big companies, for example Acer, LG, will not even give you this.
So why do you not update?

tweetatoo said:
Hello guys, how are you doing?
I just wanted to share with you my own opinion over how Samsung deals with updates to a Galaxy Note 10.1.
Actually, many users have reported software bugs in Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung confirmed many like the bug of clipboard. But the bad part is Samsung ignorance of bug fixing. It is good that we will receive 4.1.2 update with premium suite preinstalled, but it is bad that we did not receive a bug fixing package!
It has been several months since the launch of the Note 10.1 that many owners of the product started to get frustrated of the bugs. I cannot copy an article and save it as note in S Note app or share it in Facebook!
Besides, Samsung released JB 4.1.1 update to some regions, stopped then started releasing 4.1.2 in the time users still have the buggy 4.0.4 for many months in several countries, if not most! Even though 4.1.1 has stability issues, Samsung shall fix current bugs of 4.0.4 before caring to release a major 4.1.2, as this needs a quite long time by Samsung for a frustrating bug to remain!
Software is as important as hardware. I do not care for receiving a new major update with hundreds of new features, as we will receive it soon or later! But for me, a stable software with only two features is far far better than a buggy one with hundreds of cool features that I am unable to use!
Samsung used to release improvement packages and push them to their software update server for their products, but it is really strange why this is not the case for Note 10.1!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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Agreed, I had to resort to manually flashing the German JB update to "fix" the PDF import problem on my Canadian N8010. I feel sorry for the average customer that bought the Note but doesn't know how (or even think) to flash a firmware.
This is why Samsung will remain a second-rate manufacturer of mobile devices: ineffective software QA and silly update rollout schedules.

Samsung is known for slow firmware updates, mostly due to the most customization of android in the world. Second-rate manufacturer? Not sure about that my friend. You are smart enough to Google Samsung.

This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:

Riki1kenobi said:
This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Likewise i fail to see why XDA Developers has so many users wanting Samsung update path posting .
First job i do is remove Kies and OTA .
jje

Riki1kenobi said:
This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Haha... so true... hehe... I like your humor...

The note isn't my first Android tablet, but it is the best that I've owned to date. My first Android tablet was an Archos 101. In addition to poor quality control that led to dead USB ports and speakers on multiple units while under warranty, the company's constant push of half-backed updates drove me and others away from that brand. You need to test code changes to make sure one "fix" doesn't break something else. Archos engineers didn't test updates thoroughly and rushed out updates that created additional issues. I quit updating that tablet. Thank goodness Samsung is more diligent. No OS is perfect and some of the things we might be unhappy with really are deliberate design features that Google incorporated into JB (or, in your case ICS). I would also suggest that you update to JB, you'll gain valuable features with the s-pen. At this point in time, I am happy with stock JB. I will probably root it soon (I wanted to use it on stock JB for a while before rooting). Eventually, I may flash one of the custom ROMs developed by the talented developers on this forum. The great thing about the popularity of Samsung products is that the popularity generates more developer interest, a big win for adventurous owners willing to root and flash.

Riki1kenobi said:
This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Having to do all that is, to me, what is required from buying a second or third-rate product. I wouldn't buy a car, for example, and be happy to expect that I need to change the spark plugs or some nonsense when I bring it home.
I mess around with R/C cars and I have in the past bought crappy cars because I enjoy tinkering and making them better, but I don't want or expect to do that with a mass market product lol.

skadebo said:
Having to do all that is, to me, what is required from buying a second or third-rate product. I wouldn't buy a car, for example, and be happy to expect that I need to change the spark plugs or some nonsense when I bring it home.
I mess around with R/C cars and I have in the past bought crappy cars because I enjoy tinkering and making them better, but I don't want or expect to do that with a mass market product lol.
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Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad

Riki1kenobi said:
Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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Riki1kenobi said:
This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Your advices are sick my friend. For me, I did flash many firmwares of other regions onto my devices. But in the same time, good may be overwhelmed by bad things. These 1-2-3 steps were sometimes helpful and other times disasterous! For example, I have flashed many firmwares before on my Galaxy S i9003, Galaxy S II i9100, and my latest Galaxy S III.
For unknown reason, my Galaxy S III got bricked and went into a boot loop. It was not a noticed hardware failure neither it was a corrupt Odin package, but for some reason, a hidden hardware failure has become obvious following the flash. Samsung has reported that the motherboard was completely damaged and that unofficial firmware flashing of different CSCs was the cause. It could be also a manufacturing error. Whatever it is, I was lucky that Samsung did not void my warranty as it was rooted at that time with the flash counter > 0.
Besides, I have more than five Samsung Galaxy devices in the house, and they look to me as their software geek!! Whenever an update is released, I cannot say always to them yes, and let me flash things to you!!!!
Besides, why am I supposed to flash the German one? For the learning hub that does not work in my country? Or for Music and Video hubs that are also forbidden in my Country?! And why does Samsung have all these software variability? Why does not they make a united software with custom configurations based on country; like Apple?! Apple used to release the update worldwide with blocking un-allowed features based on country chosen!
I love to update using OTA; AS SIMPLE AS THAT, apart from all the BLA BLA BLA you have said!!!

no one is forcing you to upgrade, after all it's your tablet and you can do whatever you want, i am still on ICS and plan to stay that way for a while because i feel personally it's stable for me and works, i don't really care about new features i will hardly use, best thing is to root and then you can decide if you want to upgrade your tablet at a later date or not, the option is still there with odin.
i too also prefer uk firmware because some features that are on the uk firmware won't specifically be on the german firmware, different regions different features.

tweetatoo said:
Besides, why am I supposed to flash the German one? For the learning hub that does not work in my country? Or for Music and Video hubs that are also forbidden in my Country?! And why does Samsung have all these software variability? Why does not they make a united software with custom configurations based on country; like Apple?! Apple used to release the update worldwide with blocking un-allowed features based on country chosen!
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i too also prefer uk firmware because some features that are on the uk firmware won't specifically be on the german firmware, different regions different features.
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Hehehe The biggest joke of all is that the UK version is INCLUDED into the German version. You just need to change csc and you have the UK firmware, not a firmware LIKE the uk firmware but THE UK firmware.
Some people just prefer to complain instead of moving a finger themselves.

Just flashed premium bugs 4.1.2... not bad so far! Well woth the upgrade from ics unless you use the gallery, as that isn't fixed!

tweetatoo said:
I love to update using OTA; AS SIMPLE AS THAT, apart from all the BLA BLA BLA you have said!!!
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Then stop being a complainawhinger then and just wait for Samsung to deliver your update to you OTA. While you're waiting for it I'll continue to try and help people wanting to update to the latest version, with my sick, but helpful advice, :good:

Riki1kenobi said:
Then stop being a complainawhinger then and just wait for Samsung to deliver your update to you OTA. While you're waiting for it I'll continue to try and help people wanting to update to the latest version, with my sick, but helpful advice, :good:
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haha we need more people like you Riki1kenobi... some fun but helpful post... :laugh:
people should not get easily offended over some jokes the man was just trying to help... and as JJEgan said i also can't understand why so many xda members here are waiting for ota updates... i understand that xda is the place to look for all things android but really the 1st step you should do is not rely on kies and learn some odin and flashing..
but hell we're all in one community... there are always some whiners and whatever kind of people and that just adds to the fun of being here on xda..

Riki1kenobi said:
Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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I absolutely, totally agree with you. People see something new and they just WANT to update, because we are consumer whores.
However, I needed to update to fix the notorious PDF import problem in S-Note (as noted in first post in this thread). Basically, if I wanted to import PDFs from school into S-Note, S-Note would crash. This only happens to specific versions of the N8010 firmware (Canada being one of them).
I don't come looking for fights etc. as a lot of people do, I just speak (sometimes shout!) the truth.

Different regions /countries have different legal requirements which I suspect is one of the big delays for some regions. If you want everything done for you (OTA) , be patient and stup reading forums lokking for the latest updateor you will never be happy.
Of course you could also encourage your government to remove some of the restrictions, but for that I think you will be waiting much longer! I for one am amazed the updates get out as quickly as they do, re-evaluating every rom in every country for legal issues has to be a very expensive nightmare. Samsung is a big international company, ignoring regional laws is not really an option.
Sent from my GT-N8010 using xda premium

I have lost my hope that New Zealand will be able to get JB Update. So now after reading many threads for months I am plunging into this forum to know how I can update my machine.
My tablet
Model Number
GT-N8000
Baseband version
N8000XXALI3
Android version
4.0.4
1. Please suggest me which firmware is going to be suitable for my tablet
2. If tomorrow NZ firmware is released and I be able to flash it manually will it be back to normal for OTA upgrades ?
Thanks

l. Put German Jellybean
2. Yes
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[Q] 4.2 rooted or 4.4 update?

So with the inevitable release of KitKat tomorrow, I have the quandary of upgrading or not. I understand the 4.4 will kill my root, but I really haven't used the root option due to interceding life getting in the way since I rooted it (originally I was going to use Ti Backup and go from there, but have never bought it). So losing root is not a huge deal breaker one way or another currently.
With the leaked build, does it look like a good update to do or has the current ROM users of KitKat feel it's not worth it? I'd like to get some input to help make up my mind...

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So with the inevitable release of KitKat tomorrow, I have the quandary of upgrading or not. I understand the 4.4 will kill my root, but I really haven't used the root option due to interceding life getting in the way since I rooted it (originally I was going to use Ti Backup and go from there, but have never bought it). So losing root is not a huge deal breaker one way or another currently.
With the leaked build, does it look like a good update to do or has the current ROM users of KitKat feel it's not worth it? I'd like to get some input to help make up my mind...
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I own both an I337 and an M919 and, given the flexibility of the M919, I was able to try both official and leaked 4.4 TW releases mainly for the I9505. Based on those experiences I would say take the update. 4.4 update should be noticeably faster.
In regard to keeping root, I'm hoping SuperSu Pro's Survival mode works.

I'd say go with the update if you don't care about root. The only problem is Knox is more locked down, also more bloat/crap ware on the new update. I do love the camera on the lockscreen, plus the album artwork on the lock screen is a big + for me. I don't know if art is implemented into the gs4 but it does make a difference but the only thing is, is that most apps are not optimized for it yet.
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So should I revert the few changes I have done? IE, I've killed startup apps with ES Task Manager and (obviously) disabled the software update checker.

I'm on the original/not locked down 4.2.2. What do I need to do, to accept the update? I too found that I don't use Root much, but T.B. would be nice to have. I have clockword installed now as a bootloader, so maybe I need to revert to stock bootloader somehow. Previous OTA's have failed.

As far as experience goes, I say wait and keep your options open. I like the freedom of a clean rom, free from bloat and clutter of apps that i dont use. Not to mention a battery life that exceeds far beyond a regular un-rooted device. Visit the numerous threads of other people's experiences. I'm rooted and have been able to try out different rooms from 4.2 to 4.4. Accepting an ota will unroot your device without anyway of reverting back. Good luck with your decision.
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aiwapro said:
I'm on the original/not locked down 4.2.2. What do I need to do, to accept the update? I too found that I don't use Root much, but T.B. would be nice to have. I have clockword installed now as a bootloader, so maybe I need to revert to stock bootloader somehow. Previous OTA's have failed.
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If you're on the not locked down version, then you shouldn't take the update. It will lock your bootloader and that device will never see an AOSP ROM again. You should wait for something like StockUp to be updated to the new 4.4 or use any of the many other 4.4 ROMs available. If you really want to get one with the stock update and locked bootloaders, I'm sure someone would love to trade.

aiwapro said:
I'm on the original/not locked down 4.2.2. What do I need to do, to accept the update? I too found that I don't use Root much, but T.B. would be nice to have. I have clockword installed now as a bootloader, so maybe I need to revert to stock bootloader somehow. Previous OTA's have failed.
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We were able to get the MK2 tar files rather quickly after the OTA release and will hopefully be able to get the 4.4 tars just as quickly. If that's the case you will be able to flash all partitions, except the bootloader, to run the 4.4 ROM and keep your unlocked bootloader. I would not give up the unlocked bootloader if I were you.

scottiemedic said:
So with the inevitable release of KitKat tomorrow, I have the quandary of upgrading or not. I understand the 4.4 will kill my root, but I really haven't used the root option due to interceding life getting in the way since I rooted it (originally I was going to use Ti Backup and go from there, but have never bought it). So losing root is not a huge deal breaker one way or another currently.
With the leaked build, does it look like a good update to do or has the current ROM users of KitKat feel it's not worth it? I'd like to get some input to help make up my mind...
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Sounds like you are not someone that really uses or needs root like us flashaholics. I love having complete control over my devices. The extraordinary battery life, increased performance, extra capabilities like tethering and so forth. If I want to delete an un-wanted app or service ( At&t navigator anyone) or try a new rom I can. With a stock rom with locked boot loaders (really an oxymoron for "open source" Android isn't it?) you have what you get, like it or not. It's sad they load these awesome devices up with so much performance killing bloat ware. It's like buying a new corvette & then attaching a loaded u-haul trailer to it. What's the point of having it if you can't use it as intended? Anyway my 2 cents worth. Choose your path wisely grasshopper, as there's no turning back.

Hello everyone!
I have been thinking about getting myself one of these lovely phones but after reading what y'all have been saying about the locked bootloader I'm not sure I want to... I won't be able to actually get a phone until next week so I'm assuming it will come already pre-loaded with this update??
I would like to be able to root this phone just like I did my old ET4G from Sprint... would this be an option if I was to get one next week?
Just an FYI I will be on the AT&T network.
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crazy_dragonlady said:
Hello everyone!
I have been thinking about getting myself one of these lovely phones but after reading what y'all have been saying about the locked bootloader I'm not sure I want to... I won't be able to actually get a phone until next week so I'm assuming it will come already pre-loaded with this update??
I would like to be able to root this phone just like I did my old ET4G from Sprint... would this be an option if I was to get one next week?
Just an FYI I will be on the AT&T network.
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Get a nexus 5. You'll love it
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jd1639 said:
Get a nexus 5. You'll love it
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AT&T doesn't offer that phone... unless I'm just not seeing it LOL

crazy_dragonlady said:
AT&T doesn't offer that phone... unless I'm just not seeing it LOL
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They don't but it works fine on att. Very easy to root and mod. No locked bootloader.
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John The Rhino said:
Sounds like you are not someone that really uses or needs root like us flashaholics. I love having complete control over my devices. The extraordinary battery life, increased performance, extra capabilities like tethering and so forth. If I want to delete an un-wanted app or service ( At&t navigator anyone) or try a new rom I can. With a stock rom with locked boot loaders (really an oxymoron for "open source" Android isn't it?) you have what you get, like it or not. It's sad they load these awesome devices up with so much performance killing bloat ware. It's like buying a new corvette & then attaching a loaded u-haul trailer to it. What's the point of having it if you can't use it as intended? Anyway my 2 cents worth. Choose your path wisely grasshopper, as there's no turning back.
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I guess I've just never gotten any real good info on WHAT my rooted GS4 can do. I'd love to extend battery life and tether, but without really knowing all the possible downfalls, I've never pulled the trigger on like system apps, bloatware, etc. You know of a good resource for slightly technical people with clear definitions of what certain programs do and what can and can't be deleted?
I think at the time I rooted (I'm a MF3 S4), there was no 'unrooting' or flashing to stock, and therefore have been reluctant. I know I don't spend enough time on here learning, my 5 and 2 year old suck all my extra time away.
I'd love to maximize my phone to it's greater abilities, just overwhelmed I guess on where to start as I'm perfectly happy on 4.2 (I owned 3 iPhones before getting this one, so I have limited Android experience, but I recently also got an ASUS TF300 and rooted and ROMed my Kindle Fire almost 2 years ago to CM9).

scottiemedic said:
I guess I've just never gotten any real good info on WHAT my rooted GS4 can do. I'd love to extend battery life and tether, but without really knowing all the possible downfalls, I've never pulled the trigger on like system apps, bloatware, etc. You know of a good resource for slightly technical people with clear definitions of what certain programs do and what can and can't be deleted?
I think at the time I rooted (I'm a MF3 S4), there was no 'unrooting' or flashing to stock, and therefore have been reluctant. I know I don't spend enough time on here learning, my 5 and 2 year old suck all my extra time away.
I'd love to maximize my phone to it's greater abilities, just overwhelmed I guess on where to start as I'm perfectly happy on 4.2 (I owned 3 iPhones before getting this one, so I have limited Android experience, but I recently also got an ASUS TF300 and rooted and ROMed my Kindle Fire almost 2 years ago to CM9).
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Hey man, no worries. The reality is I would much rather play with my kids (if I had any) than an electronic device. So it's nice to know your priorities are right. There's few picture worthy moments we get from our phones, but kids provide such memories constantly. For everyday use, stock is fine & was for me for a little while. You are doing the right thing by waiting until you know more before you do something wrong & brick your phone. This is the place where you can learn how to root, install Safestrap recovery & flash incredible custom rom on your mf3 S4 when you are ready.