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i9000 to get Froyo ~ No specific date as yet!

As posted on asia cnet.com web site.
The i9000 will eventually at some stage get Android 2.2 Froyo.
Read here for details.

yay that will make things even better

I don't mind waiting. 2.1 is still pretty cool, and I rather seem them test Froyo properly rather than rush out an update.

re's another outside source posting details. This time it's from GSMArena.
Read it here.

it woudl be awesome with froyo on it

according to SamsungFirmwares on Twitter:
SamsungFirmwares said:
So Samsung is testing 2.2 (No info about phones) And updates for 2.1 in more countries soon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmtqrpTBrY
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.

Actually he didn't say that. This interview was answered with the usual catalogue of noncommittal standard responses. He only said they are working on it.

hermanherz said:
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
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at that event in UAE Samsung have stated that the Galaxy S will have the update in around two months

As Eldar Murtazin state,
It was in March that I shared my impressions of Galaxy S, those who do not remember, can read it here.
Quite frequently I am asked to tell about this device in detail, more over some say that there are some so-called reviews in the Internet. To my mind the problem is that for the time being there is no official software for the device. There will be a couple of different versions before it is officially released as well as the default set of programs can be changed. Those prototypes that people have today do not have final design, they are different from commercial devices (there is no curve in the lower body part in the final samples).
In Russia as in the majority of states it will be released in mid-July. Some countries will see the device one month earlier. But the update to Android 2.2 for this phone will be available only in mid-Summer. So is there a point in writing about it if something may change radically? I suggest that there are no problems in the device as such and it is possible to write about it. You can get general impression even today. In this dilemma I ask for your advice, what should I do best? It will be logical to add a part about the camera and description of some applications to the first article and call it the preliminary review. Should such material be published and announced on the main page – remains a question for me as well. Give your advice and recommendations, your opinion is important as always.
As a small bonus I want to mention that Galaxy S is important for the Android market in another way. It is known that most people consider Marketplace to be the only place where you can get applications and assume that Google will protect its right for it at all costs. In other words it will not tolerate other similar applications by other companies. It suddenly appears that Samsung can install such applications; particularly the device has Samsung application and book stores. What is more amazing is that while discussing this issue one of company’s top manager said that on the device you can use any search from any company. Google does not insist on the use of its search by default. The fact that everyone uses it today does not mean that there are any restrictions by Google. This remarkable discovery makes Android not only very open system but the system whose main advantage is the possibility to use any solutions available. This is namely what Samsung is doing. In this aspect both companies are following an understandable path, by not restricting users in choice of services. Admit that you did not know that Google is so flexible about Android? Or the reason is in antitrust legislation? I do not know but the fact remains, Google does not impose any one-sided terms on the hardware manufacturers.
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This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !

MacaronyMax said:
This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
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Totally agree, games from GAmeloft like (Sandstorm) is so freaken smooth like constant 60fps
The OS seems very snappy already and 2.2 is just gonna blow my mind away when its ready for our S!!!

as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month

v1rtu4l said:
as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
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lol nice to see you here v1rtu4l. samsung will probably take their sweet time to get this update out, you and i both know how they work.. hopefully well be able to add Froyo to the Galaxy S ourselves as it was rooted today.

Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?

krumbs said:
Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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interesting point, is the codec support built into touchwiz or a feature on the media player?.... one of my big reasons for buying this phone is root and the codec support....

"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port

kolyan said:
"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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at least you hear HTC and Moto talk about it....I havent heard much from Samsung lately....

I'm eagerly awaiting some guru Rom maker to deliver Froyo to the GS. The first one to do so will definitely be getting a donation from me.

The phone is rooted... how far are we to get froyo on this.. ...
Waiting from samsung is a pain.

Will pure AOSP Froyo ROM ever be a reality on Samsung Galaxy S devices?

Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.

WhiteWidows said:
Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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This contradicts what I read elsewhere for the better Ill see if I can locate where I read this at, If this is the case why is there no custom roms besides Cyanogenmod? Where is a AOSP roms at? Or is the device just that new nothing is out yet? If this is true Ill be getting the Epic over the Evo

Wifi tether comes with the device, and I have to say I haven't had any problems with its use so far
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While trying this and putting my N1 aside, I'm surprised how much I'm missing FroYo
Any devs that would care to comment on the possibility of a FroYo port for the SGS?

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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What nonsense

I'm a little confused about the situation with ROMs myself, coming from the Windows Mobile world. If the entire source to the build of Android on the Galaxy S is available, surely it's possible to change anything, theoretically? It also seems that the bootloader has no or negligible security as to what it can flash.
On the other hand, I've seen claims that it would be impossible to get Froyo or any future Android updates if Samsung don't release them first (I know they've committed to Froyo). Unless the driver model changes dramatically in Froyo, which I doubt since then new drivers would be required for every phone, why would it be any more difficult to port newer versions of Android to the Galaxy S than any other phone?

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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Why do you say this? I purchased mine today and so far am very satisfied with
the phone.

Just testing xda app.
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jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
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No, it's just that there are different components and layers which can be considered open or "locked down", and you both use different ones.
The bootloader for the samsung galaxy is not locked.
But there is an argument by the XDA forum member psychoace that some of the drivers for the galaxy S were not open sourced, and that in earlier android devices from samsung this made it very hard to create ROMs which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
As far as I know, this argument from psychoace was never countered, and so I see no reason not to believe it. (I did not look over the sources myself yet).
So can someone port new versions of Android over to the Galaxy S after Samsung has abandoned the device? I really don't know, but I wouldn't count on it, until someone who has experience with making custom ROMs says it is realistic.

The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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riz157 said:
The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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as far as i understand it, the lagging issues are just because of the touchwiz and especially the samsung-widgets. removing the widgets and replacing the luncher with luncher-pro/adw will be the first thing i do when i have the device in my hands. on the other side: the hardware of the galaxy s is very good in my opinion!
@bookwormat:
i think you are wrong! i have read in some forums that samsung has released the drivers for 2.1 together with all other code! in fact i am just pulling the code (including the full kernel) from the samsung open source center (http://opensource.samsung.com/). it's huge, 148MB ... when it's finished i will give it a look an confirm what's in there and what not.

You might just want to take into consideration the fact that the Nexus and Desire had some problems as well right after launch.
The nexus took some time ( a couple of months) to set things straight, the Desire- A couple of weeks only. But it's understandable, since it's 95% identical to the nexus, so HTC probably knew what is going to be problematic.
Also, you're taking things to major extremes. You make it sound like the device is catastrophically slow to the level of being unuseable, and crashes every 2 minutes.
Reality, well, is different. The longest lag i had personally is 1.5 seconds when loading asphalt 5. Every other lag when opening an app- less than half a second.
I'd also like you to refrain from stating one personal problem as a bug in the device, you are the only known member in this forum that is having trouble with the keyboard.
A little search in MoDaCo forums reveals that some users are reporting slight problems with the keyboard, but it's limited to Firmware JG01 only.
It's sad that instead of taking a moment to see if you can solve these problems or helping others find a solution, you preffer to bash the device in every occasion.

For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
For me it's really an awesome phone that comes with some minor annoyances that seem entirely caused by the fact that it's brand new. So far it appears that Samsung is putting a lot of effort in maturing the software and I expect the issues to be solved within a matter of weeks. In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Battery life is very good after the first initial cycles.
GPS doesn't work right you may all ***** about that.
I'm sure I would be happy with the new HTC's, or even the iphone 4 (the thought of buying into apple's nasty attitude does make me cringe a bit) but I would still choose the SGS again providing they fix the gps.

Perhaps I'm being over critical but there are serious flaws with this device, there is no denying this.
GPS not working - there doesn't seem to be a solution, can't use copilot or googlemaps.
Lagging/freezing - changed to launcher pro not as bad but still occurs.
I hope the boys at samy are working hard to find fixes for these problems. If there are solutions then please guide me to them.
Don't get me wrong this device has potential and there alot of good features but due to issues mentioned above it just ruins the users experience.
I paid good money for this device not so that I could put it down but to use it. I'm just stating my experience for the benefit of others who maybe considering to buy this device.
If there are solutions wonderful p

dakine said:
For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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I really dont uderstand all this gps not working talk.I use co pilot a lot and its extremely accurate and keeps lock in all weathers.Googe maps works indoors to within a house or so and out side gets me within 15 feet or so.I did have gps issues initially until I flashed firmware and factory reset.My i8910 hd had better gps but that was an exeptional phone for gps

Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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Download the update.zip file from this thread.
Or direct link here
Copy the file to the internal storage card of the phone using Kies or whatever method you like.
Disconnect the usb cable
Turn off the phone
Press and hold these buttons at the same time: volume up+home+power, keep them pressed until you see the samsung logo.
Use volume rocker to navigate to update.zip and then press home to select.
Phone will reboot and you are now rooted with superuser.
The whole process takes less than 5 minutes.
I'm not responsible for anything

I like the phone but there are problems
1.keyboard has dup presses... solved with HTC keyboard. Also l key in portrait mode doesn't always work.
2. Gps lock not as good or reliable as my I 8910
3. StallING.. fix fixed it the only program that has a lag to load is sygic.
4. Image resizing not working well in gallery and web.
5. Still doesn't always switch back to 3g from edge. Jg1 is better than previous.
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Truth on the Froyo tracking hoax

Incredible how much info on the new Froyo update on this forum is plain Incorrect. Devices with original Dutch (Netherlands) product codes are not oficially upgradeable yet nor are they in Germany or any other countries on the European mainland! Anyone who claims it is either didn't remove the KIES hack properly or changed their product code accidentally in a previous flash.
As far as I know the update is as of yet oficially only available to Scandinavian customers. They do this because it is a small market with relatively few technologically challenged customers. If there are any major flaws (major meaning so big it would result in legal problems or put a serious strain on the user experience if they went ahead seeding the fw to a greater subset of customers) in the firmware they will correct it before rolling it out to other markets. Nokia (with the very flawed N97) and Sony Ericisson are both known to follow this logic as well and usually pick the Nordic countries as guinea pigs (or sometimes even more narrowed down to only Norway).
But don't take my word for it, take a look at this video from Nokia's highest product manager.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBah223no8Y&feature=player_embedded

Hi, Finland here. Stock, unrooted --> Kies kindly offered to upgrade my SGS to 2.2 a few days ago - YAY!
I am really, really pissed off right now. So far, I've come upon about 50 force close bugs. In addition to that, I have found very little (or none) new features that I really need or even notice, or any improvements/fixes.
But I TRUST all these will be fixed for you all in other countries!

thurtig said:
Hi, Finland here. Stock, unrooted --> Kies kindly offered to upgrade my SGS to 2.2 a few days ago - YAY!
I am really, really pissed off right now. So far, I've come upon about 50 force close bugs. In addition to that, I have found very little (or none) new features that I really need or even notice, or any improvements/fixes.
But I TRUST all these will be fixed for you all in other countries!
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Thank you for playing guinea pig, because of you I won't have to be angry

There is just one slight problem.
We keep reporting bugs to Samsung Finland, but their response is mostly:
"We haven't come across this before. We are really surprised."
This is even for show-stopper bugs like the "can't receive SMS messages" bug, which is highly annoying (btw, this is an Eclari 2.1 bug, haven't tested under 2.2).
So, my question is: what good is all this testing, if they don't take feedback from experienced developers/users/testers/debuggers seriously?

vasra said:
There is just one slight problem.
We keep reporting bugs to Samsung Finland, but their response is mostly:
"We haven't come across this before. We are really surprised."
This is even for show-stopper bugs like the "can't receive SMS messages" bug, which is highly annoying (btw, this is an Eclari 2.1 bug, haven't tested under 2.2).
So, my question is: what good is all this testing, if they don't take feedback from experienced developers/users/testers/debuggers seriously?
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I guess the problem is that this strategy of using a contained set of customers as test case is thought out by a couple of geniuses in Samsung corporate and they fail to direct the resources necessary to pump up customer service departments in those areas to handle reports from users. Receiving bug reports from the right people in one thing, logging and handling them is quite another trait.
I therefore doubt that the goal of seeding the firmware to tech savvy Scandinavians with high speed broadband connections is really to receive bug reports from them. Bug reports are usually only picked up at an earlier stage of development. Basically, the feedback from the Scandinavians is used to either decide whether to go ahead releasing the fw to the rest of the world or to send it back to the development team for further fixing.
You are right to note that this makes the whole idea behind the strategy seem like weak. However, the goal of the test is only to assure that the new firmware does not cause any major deterioration in usability or customer experience. Remaining smaller issues can also be fixed once the firmware is rolled out to a greater population of customers.
You should look at the release in the Scandinavian countries as step 3 superseding testing first by Samsung's own engineers and second by people in e.g. this community two whom the software is intentionally "leaked". The leak being Samsung making it possible to test for them by changing one line in a text file.

Could be that their servers are simply not prepared for a simultaneous global release.
They say galaxy s sales have already passed the 5M mark...
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pmos69 said:
Could be that their servers are simply not prepared for a simultaneous global release.
They say galaxy s sales have already passed the 5M mark...
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That would be one possibility. It happened to apple when they released the iPhone 3G simultaneously with an update for the iPhone 2G. I remember apple's servers being so overloaded that customers couldn't activate their newly purchased 3G devices. I don't think it explains though why Samsung hasn't released the fw outside of Scandinavia yet.

pmos69 said:
Could be that their servers are simply not prepared for a simultaneous global release.
They say galaxy s sales have already passed the 5M mark...
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Not a bad point at all.
I mean, they're a Fortune 500 company so you expect them to have the infrastructure to perform a worldwide release but perhaps they did encounter these issues.
Or perhaps it's typical samsung bs

thurtig said:
Hi, Finland here. Stock, unrooted --> Kies kindly offered to upgrade my SGS to 2.2 a few days ago - YAY!
I am really, really pissed off right now. So far, I've come upon about 50 force close bugs. In addition to that, I have found very little (or none) new features that I really need or even notice, or any improvements/fixes.
But I TRUST all these will be fixed for you all in other countries!
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Thanks for testing the firmware for us (Y)... cheers!

I am trying to put this point to my fellow Xda members that even if these firmwares are released thru kies, they may still be public beta or Rc. Like all the eclair jmx builds which some claim to be released to a specific location, could only prove that they are testing the software among a specific group of people.
Most probably a release will have a proper timestamp on the firmware code. I still firmly believe jpm is a Rc at best unless Samsung confirms it to be a release.
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I still firmly believe jpm is a Rc at best unless Samsung confirms it to be a release.
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Samsung has confirmed the version they are rolling out to the Nordic region now is "The Android 2.2 upgrade". (press release)
That's not to say they won't release a different version to the rest of the world, but it is not an RC.

Have any of the guys that upgraded and have problems, tried to factory reset the phone?
Froyo is somewhat different from Eclair and i think, that you should wipe at least dalvik cache, to have the stable device (that's from my experience with Hero).
I've read, that people have issues after upgrade, but everything's starting to work fine after wipe.
Personally i've updated to froyo using Kies registry hack, but after update i did factory reset, and i do not have ANY issues with the phone.

So if the rest of the world is going to get froyo through kies until the end of October, nobody is saying anything about the OTA update.
Anyone has a guesstimate on OTA update?

szczeslaw said:
Have any of the guys that upgraded and have problems, tried to factory reset the phone?
Froyo is somewhat different from Eclair and i think, that you should wipe at least dalvik cache, to have the stable device (that's from my experience with Hero).
I've read, that people have issues after upgrade, but everything's starting to work fine after wipe.
Personally i've updated to froyo using Kies registry hack, but after update i did factory reset, and i do not have ANY issues with the phone.
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same here - factory reset - phone all good.
been using Copilot for 4 days or so now ... and has not missed a trick - work is 35 plus miles - even handled bluetooth calls while using copilot - no problems so far.
problem with my mic though so need tmobile to update so i can take it back

szczeslaw said:
Have any of the guys that upgraded and have problems, tried to factory reset the phone?
Froyo is somewhat different from Eclair and i think, that you should wipe at least dalvik cache, to have the stable device (that's from my experience with Hero).
I've read, that people have issues after upgrade, but everything's starting to work fine after wipe.
Personally i've updated to froyo using Kies registry hack, but after update i did factory reset, and i do not have ANY issues with the phone.
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conuk said:
same here - factory reset - phone all good.
been using Copilot for 4 days or so now ... and has not missed a trick - work is 35 plus miles - even handled bluetooth calls while using copilot - no problems so far.
problem with my mic though so need tmobile to update so i can take it back
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+1
I probably went overboard but coming from a variety of symbian handsets I always like to start from a clean slate when upgrading to a major firmware.
I was on Tayutama's JM8 ROM. I backed up my contacts via Kies (even though I already had a backup on Outlook). I used SMS BackUp & Restore and Call Logs BackUp & Restore to save my SMS/Call log info. I didn't back up anything through Titanium. I un-did RyanZA's OCLF.
I then flashed a stock JM8 through Odin with .512 pit re-partition checked. Booted up phone and reset to factory settings.
Then upgraded to JP6 through Kies with XEE registry hack. Then factory wiped again (Probably unnecassary, I know). Then restored contacts from Kies and SMS/Call Logs from the Back & Restore apps. Re-installed all apps manually through AppBrain again. (I read restoring from Titanium causes conflict with the new firmware).
Been running it for 3 days without reboot and no force closes and the battery life is the same as before. Loving the new froyo features. No SMS bugs, Market App present and upgraded, no camera bugs, wifi even better than JM8, GPS slightly better - good enough for the occasional car navigation. The only issues I've had are with the browser which now crashes on the Guardian website, when it never used to before. But the flash websites work like a charm.

silverstorm said:
Been running it for 3 days without reboot and no force closes and the battery life is the same as before. Loving the new froyo features. No SMS bugs, no camera bugs, wifi even better than JM8, GPS slightly better - good enough for the occasional car navigation. The only issues I've had are with the browser which now crashes on the Guardian website, when it never used to before. But the flash websites work like a charm.
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Do you have moved apps to SD card? Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Third-party -> app -> Move to SD card?
- After boot the icons of the moved apps have gone from the Home pages and Folders.
Do you have in the Contacts all the letters on the right side selection?
- There is only two letters and a dot etc. Third of the letters have gone away. There could be contacts or not, no direct pick to contact any more.
etc.
Yes, I made factory reset before upgrade.
I'm very disappointed to the upgrade, but there is one cheerful feature for me. I have bought two Samsung phones at once: the first one and the last one.

I just can't understand why you are moving apps to sd on sgs? Man you have 2gb internal memory for your apps. What's the point?
Sent from intergalactic cosmic invaders battleship.

We got a statement from a Samsung offical. I cant post a link here because I'm a "new" member (more like old lurker), but if you go to droidnytt.no with google translate you'll see it. Basically it was taken down.

[email protected] said:
Do you have moved apps to SD card? Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Third-party -> app -> Move to SD card?
- After boot the icons of the moved apps have gone from the Home pages and Folders.
Do you have in the Contacts all the letters on the right side selection?
- There is only two letters and a dot etc. Third of the letters have gone away. There could be contacts or not, no direct pick to contact any more.
etc.
Yes, I made factory reset before upgrade.
I'm very disappointed to the upgrade, but there is one cheerful feature for me. I have bought two Samsung phones at once: the first one and the last one.
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Nope, haven't moved any apps to SD. Didn't see the point when I have 2GB storage.
Now that you mentioned the Contacts letters on the right hand side, yes, I do have some random letters (every third or fourth letter) replaced with a dot. But the sliding search still works the same way and I can access the contacts in the relevant alphabet area. Looks odd, but not a deal-breaker for me.
I am enjoying this release of froyo. It will see through until Samsung release the proper UK release which I will then no doubt be eager to adopt anyway.

Before this thread goes any further, would the OP please explain how they know this?
Because, for all we know, it may be fiction. There have been plenty of cases here where stuff has been "confirmed" by people, and the reality was, their "confirmation" was based on guessing, or rumor sites.
So I'd like to know how we know this to be true? Whilst I'd be inclined to believe that the mobile carrier simply decided that they wanted to rollout a beta, and it is true, that is an opinion. And I'd like to see others start to challenge claims made here, just to be sure we are accurate

[Q] When will the official samsung update come?... and more.

Yes iknow it is impossible to answer, but since this is my first samsung device i have no clue how they do this, do they normaly release small software updates often, or few big ones a while?
Seing that P1000XXJM6 is leaked ( im all new on the galaxy tab forum, might be a newer one) makes me think that samsung will soon release a update with the changes?
i mean they cant wait for the android 2.3 update can they? If browser problems have been fixed and so on then i really want to root and get the newest version asap, but if i could wait a few weeks and get a official one, then i would.
If i start rooting and all, should i then feel safe about the future of my device, in other words, if samsung releases official firmware, will i be able to get it through xda? ( my guess is, yes but i would love an answer anyway)

let me say it like this:
do you really think if there is an official 2.3 released before some inofficial leaks will hit the ground? i don´t think so. anyway, if you are able to install a leak, for sure you will be able to install new official......
so why wait?

Dude that was not what i said. I was just. Wondering about samsung would release a update soon since there is this much improved new version out i mean wouldn't that make sense?
Well i wanna root and go custom but i see so many with problems and it seems like some loose features aswell like phone? Just want to have prober firmware on my tab and i thought that the whole root and flash thing would get better, safer and more polished? Maybe im all wrong, just through things where so much easier in the winmo days, maybe i just need to adapt, and get into it.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

if you think something makes sense, then wait...
if you have no experience with android flashing firmwares and/or rooting so you have to choose between staying "legal" and waiting with kies that samsung releases and you learn nothing as trust in big god samsung, or
-> you read 2 days and when you have it clear just try. you can go out as loser with a totally bricked tab or you win and have newer firmware and perhaps also more "freedom" on your device.
but if you choose the first way-> you will never know what it is and just keep talking about problems THE OTHERS has, dude.....
i could solve every described problem til now, because in this forum you find a lot of answers if you´re patiently reading and looking for......

Thanks for answering, just did not like your tone, i HAVE read most of the important treads and it is still not totally clear to me since there is so many different responses and you say you can solve everything while rooted, well, i really doubt that, i am not stupid neither naive.
Just wanted to know how Samsung usually did it with updates to their phones ( now tablet). Did not want a lecture, since i do not really need one, or at least not like that
Like i wrote i was thinking of rooting, but i was just wondering if i could expect Samsung to do updates to fix bugs in the nearest future, since the firmware version is already out there or if i might wait til thier 2.3 update to get anything.
I did not mean to be rude btw sorry if it came out that way.

Anyone know when my P6800 will get ICS?

OK, still waiting on ICS for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 (P6800).
Neither trying OTA from the menu on the Tab (always 'No Updates Found') nor using Kies ('Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies') results in an upgrade.
These are the reported firmware levels (from Kies and the internal system info menu)
PDA:LA2 / PHONE:LA1 / CSC:LA2 (XSG)
P6800ZSLA2/P6800ZZHLA2/P6800XXLA1/P6800ZSLA2 (XSG)
It was bought in the UK but it's an import and I think that the above levels mean it's a Hong Kong model - for which an ICS upgrade has been available for some time. Yet still no dice.
Anyone know what gives? Is it maybe because I'm currently running a UK data SIM in the device which might be confusing region ID?
It's getting close to the point where I might try ODIN and a ROM sourced off the net but I'd much prefer to get it done the 'official' way and I'm a bit worried that something might be preventing an upgrade.

why wait for the ;Official' that may not come to you via OTA..?
Go for the flash of XXLQ2//.. via PC Odin... it's fast and easy and looks official...because it IS official only if your in Austria... But is golden for the rest of s.. I use it in the USA,, and it;s super sweet..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469635
look here for the files and instructions....
good luck
youre worried about 'preventing an official up-date'...
that's what's happenning now to your area!!!
The next up-date over ICS will be Jelly Bean...
and when that comes....
here comes PC Odin agian to flash Official Jelly Bean...
read this too..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1848967&highlight=official+ics
Why wait.. enjoy your Ice cream NOW!

i have a TGY Hong Kong tab, bought it in Algeria and when I plugged it to my computer running kies, an update was available, even here in Algeria with my Algerian sim card,
i don't think its related to the country where you are, but to the original csc inside the tab.
as far as I know, the wifi bug come from a different csc ICS rom than the stock HC that was inside the tab (exemple : stock TGY honeycomb 3.2 to Austria ICS 4.0.4 causes wifi bug, people who updated straight from original hc to ics with Kies didn't have the wifi bug) , better wait for Kies updates (i think)
best regards
Sifou
Galaxy Tab 7.7

Yeah, that's why I've waited for the official update but my patience is being severely tested.
I can see why the iPad is so attractive - a lot less mucking around with tweaking things and updates are pretty straightforward. No wondering if your particular device is going to receive an update from whoever made it or the carrier.

Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
Yeah, that's why I've waited for the official update but my patience is being severely tested.
I can see why the iPad is so attractive - a lot less mucking around with tweaking things and updates are pretty straightforward. No wondering if your particular device is going to receive an update from whoever made it or the carrier.
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Samsung has almost always been known for their tardiness in updates. Quite frustrating indeed for many. But IMHO that doesn't come close to making me lean towards iOS. Often there are methods to update or modify Samsung devices in spite of the lack of "official" updates.
Yes, Apple makes fine devices for users who could care less about taking an active role in making their devices their own. To them I say "Go for it." We who find it enjoyable to tweak our devices, iOS isn't an option. I owned an iPad for a month until I found it less than useful. My android devices did the same tasks often better.
To each their own I suppose!

skeeterpro said:
Samsung has almost always been known for their tardiness in updates. Quite frustrating indeed for many. But IMHO that doesn't come close to making me lean towards iOS. Often there are methods to update or modify Samsung devices in spite of the lack of "official" updates.
Yes, Apple makes fine devices for users who could care less about taking an active role in making their devices their own. To them I say "Go for it." We who find it enjoyable to tweak our devices, iOS isn't an option. I owned an iPad for a month until I found it less than useful. My android devices did the same tasks often better.
To each their own I suppose!
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I like tweaking technology for fun - but I don't want to have to tweak and manage just to get something usable.
With Honeycomb, the tablet falls way short of expectations. It's not unusable but it the HC-associated lag certainly isn't something I like to live with. The least I would expect is a prompt update to ICS to deliver upon the promises of the hardware and the fact that my device hasn't received an upgrade almost a full year after the OS was released is a joke.

Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
I like tweaking technology for fun - but I don't want to have to tweak and manage just to get something usable.
With Honeycomb, the tablet falls way short of expectations. It's not unusable but it the HC-associated lag certainly isn't something I like to live with. The least I would expect is a prompt update to ICS to deliver upon the promises of the hardware and the fact that my device hasn't received an upgrade almost a full year after the OS was released is a joke.
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I am in complete agreement with you. The 7.7 was just OK with HC. It worked but that was about it. Which is why I went ahead and flashed the Austrian ICS ROM. Never looked back!

But why does it have to take so long to roll out. Many countries already have it quite a while. I live in The Netherlands and I am anxiously waiting. Hurry, please hurry!
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OK, still waiting on ICS for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 (P6800).
Neither trying OTA from the menu on the Tab (always 'No Updates Found') nor using Kies ('Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies') results in an upgrade.
These are the reported firmware levels (from Kies and the internal system info menu)
PDA:LA2 / PHONE:LA1 / CSC:LA2 (XSG)
P6800ZSLA2/P6800ZZHLA2/P6800XXLA1/P6800ZSLA2 (XSG)
It was bought in the UK but it's an import and I think that the above levels mean it's a Hong Kong model - for which an ICS upgrade has been available for some time. Yet still no dice.
Anyone know what gives? Is it maybe because I'm currently running a UK data SIM in the device which might be confusing region ID?
It's getting close to the point where I might try ODIN and a ROM sourced off the net but I'd much prefer to get it done the 'official' way and I'm a bit worried that something might be preventing an upgrade.
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Was your device rooted? i encountered the same situation after i rooted my device.
i guess,your second statement might be a possibility as well since [IMHO] [IDK but] the update might have been released internationally as of now.

You may try this ROM. You need to root your device of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838391