Hi Folks
I've been playing around with a 101 Gen9 and in particular the Full Size USB Slot on the back.
On the Archos WebSite in the FAQ they state:
What can I plug in the USB port on the back of the tablet?
The USB host port on the back of your G9 tablet is reserved for only the ARCHOS G9 3G Stick. You will not be able to plug any other USB devices in this port.
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I have been doing some of my own testing on this port and found that not to be the case
Every device I plugged into it has worked in one way or another (very much another in some cases)
1. The tablet has been rooted using letma's method.
2. You need to turn on the "3G Stick" in the Wireless Settings
3. The tablet Was Plugged In
On point 3. I have no idea how the battery was doing. especially with some of the more power hungry usb devices.
Here's a list of what I've tested
Not Working:
Keyboard (USB 1.1)
Working:
Kingston Data Traveller II+ (USB 2.0) - Picked up as external storage
HTC Hero Mass Storage
HTC Debug Bridge (Required Root for adb)
HTC Sensation Mass Storage
HTC Sensation Debug Bridge (Required Root for adb)
4 Port HUB (USB 2.0)
A Couple of observations.
After turning the 3G Stick on I restarted the device
I had to plug the USB devices while the tablet was starting for it to be picked up.
The Keyboard worked when plugged into the 4 Port USB Hub. I think the keyboard will function on its own with the right kernel modules
No Device showed up as The "External Storage" in the "Files" program when plugged into the Hub, even though I mounted the device (/dev/block/sd*) from terminal emulator to the /mnt/ext_storage folder.I suspect it is looking for a specific USB device number as the external storage device.
I suppose it would be good if some other people to test what USB devices they have to hand to see what works, maybe we could build a list of functioning devices. I'm going to investigate getting the Keyboard going on it's own, which is what sparked this off and also test some external hard drives with various file systems.
I hope someone finds this helpful
Trev
For me the usb stick and hard drive is working on the stock archos firmware without reboot!
Can I buy an otg cable to read external memory cards or external Bluetooth USB? Or does kindle fire support MHL tv output? Using micro-USB to have tv out features?
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I've been curious about this as well, and there are several threads on Amazon.com regarding this. So far, there haven't been any successful reports in getting the Kindle recognizing an external USB device - in other words, no evidence of USB host support, as far as I know.
wondering OTG function need the hardware support or driver support?
Nope, not working on mine.
Hardware-wise, it looks like it should, and there seems to be a way to get the battery charger to kick power out the USB connector.
Has anyone tried external memory to Kindle Fire to check if OTG feature is present or not..??
cubalarm23 said:
Has anyone tried external memory to Kindle Fire to check if OTG feature is present or not..??
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I tried... no success even with powered USB hub (It works with my Atrix flawlessly).
I've used a SONY GoogleTV (with Bluray) to play media files (mkv, avi, mp4, etc) through ViMu app. Two 128 GB thumb drives stayed connected to the USB ports in the back of the unit at all times for kids' movies, while I utilized the front USB port once in a while to connect a WD 1TB portable external HD to watch movies.
Now, we moved to FireTV and I’d like to carry over the same setup through XBMC and StickMount. Obviously, having only 1 USB port limits this. I tried connecting a USB hub (non-powered, “mobile”); although the thumb drive worked fine, the external HD wasn’t powered. Looks like I’ll need a powered USB hub to be able to connect what I listed above.
Is there a particular one that works better with the FireTV?
Can StickMount handle mounting 2-3 USB drives and an external hard drive simultaneously? When it's time to unmount the external HD, will I be able to pick that specifically or "unmount" will get rid of thumb drives as well?
Thanks!
tenderidol said:
I've used a SONY GoogleTV (with Bluray) to play media files (mkv, avi, mp4, etc) through ViMu app. Two 128 GB thumb drives stayed connected to the USB ports in the back of the unit at all times for kids' movies, while I utilized the front USB port once in a while to connect a WD 1TB portable external HD to watch movies.
Now, we moved to FireTV and I’d like to carry over the same setup through XBMC and StickMount. Obviously, having only 1 USB port limits this. I tried connecting a USB hub (non-powered, “mobile”); although the thumb drive worked fine, the external HD wasn’t powered. Looks like I’ll need a powered USB hub to be able to connect what I listed above.
Is there a particular one that works better with the FireTV?
Can StickMount handle mounting 2-3 USB drives and an external hard drive simultaneously? When it's time to unmount the external HD, will I be able to pick that specifically or "unmount" will get rid of thumb drives as well?
Thanks!
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i have bought a USB 3.0 mains powered hub (4 ports) so will let you know later how it goes with 3 portable 1TB HDDs attached.
DEREKTROTTER said:
i have bought a USB 3.0 mains powered hub (4 ports) so will let you know later how it goes with 3 portable 1TB HDDs attached.
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Thanks. Did it work?
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Thanks. Did it work?
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hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
DEREKTROTTER said:
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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I don't use stickmount ([url="http://www.jocala.com/adbfire.html]adbFire[/url] uses its own disk mounting solution), but my powered Dlink hub does not interfere with the FireTV boot up. That's with 3 drives attached.
DEREKTROTTER said:
hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the update. I suspected it will do that. I have the same problem when I want to boot from a powered hub. I can boot from the ssd plugged in directly in the aftv usb port, but not via hub.
The problem is I cannot plug in any other usb device like a keyboard or mouse or even my usb receiver. It's a pity the aftv does not allow any other bluetooth keyboard or mouse connected to it.
Maybe one of the guys can look into it to get a drive to be booted from a powered usb hub
jocala said:
I don't use stickmount ([url="http://www.jocala.com/adbfire.html]adbFire[/url] uses its own disk mounting solution), but my powered Dlink hub does not interfere with the FireTV boot up. That's with 3 drives attached.
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can you link me to the hub you have? would like something i can keep plugged in and will boot up.
Also with the adbfire method, you still have to mount on every reboot with it right?
DEREKTROTTER said:
hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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I don't have this problem. Using a Belkin 4 port USB 2 hub, but I only have one HD attached.
jmerrilljr2 said:
I don't have this problem. Using a Belkin 4 port USB 2 hub, but I only have one HD attached.
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is that usb powered though? or mains powered
usb powered doesn't handle my 2tb HDD very well, but fine for flash drives.
DEREKTROTTER said:
is that usb powered though? or mains powered
usb powered doesn't handle my 2tb HDD very well, but fine for flash drives.
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Yes, it's powered. Running LaCie Rugged Mini 500gb.
DEREKTROTTER said:
can you link me to the hub you have? would like something i can keep plugged in and will boot up.
Also with the adbfire method, you still have to mount on every reboot with it right?
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No. You can set your boot as persistent so you don't have to remount.
My Dlink is a few years old. I don't see it listed, only newer models.
jocala said:
No. You can set your boot as persistent so you don't have to remount.
My Dlink is a few years old. I don't see it listed, only newer models.
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Thanks for your reply. Could you please provide the details of the adb mount method? Apologies, if it's a basic question... still new to AFTV.
I purchased a powered USB 2.0 hub to test things out. The connected USB sticks and the WD portable HD work great with the hub. Using StickMount, they're loaded at the time of boot, and when I pick Unmount to remove the WD HD, upon pulling the USB cable of the HD, USB sticks remain mounted (don't need to hit mount again).
With this particular powered hub FireTV boots fine when it's connected; seems like certain powered hubs block the boot sequence. I tried the boot sequence with just the USB sticks and USB sticks + WD HD, and it booted fine each time.
The only issue I have is that when I "map" the external drives, I give them names and they're listed under video sources. Unfortunately, StickMount doesn't load them in the same order every time, and the shortcuts point to invalid paths when there are more than one USB sources attached. I can create a root "USB" shortcut that lists all the sources and I can navigate to each drive, but that makes the process complicated for grandparents and kids. If there's a more "permanent" way to mount the attached drives (adb may be?), I'd like to try that.
Thanks!
tenderidol said:
Thanks for your reply. Could you please provide the details of the adb mount method? Apologies, if it's a basic question... still new to AFTV.
I purchased a powered USB 2.0 hub to test things out. The connected USB sticks and the WD portable HD work great with the hub. Using StickMount, they're loaded at the time of boot, and when I pick Unmount to remove the WD HD, upon pulling the USB cable of the HD, USB sticks remain mounted (don't need to hit mount again).
With this particular powered hub FireTV boots fine when it's connected; seems like certain powered hubs block the boot sequence. I tried the boot sequence with just the USB sticks and USB sticks + WD HD, and it booted fine each time.
The only issue I have is that when I "map" the external drives, I give them names and they're listed under video sources. Unfortunately, StickMount doesn't load them in the same order every time, and the shortcuts point to invalid paths when there are more than one USB sources attached. I can create a root "USB" shortcut that lists all the sources and I can navigate to each drive, but that makes the process complicated for grandparents and kids. If there's a more "permanent" way to mount the attached drives (adb may be?), I'd like to try that.
Thanks!
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adbFire provides two different ways to mount your drives and sticks: standard, by device name (/dev/block/sda1, etc) and by the drive's UUID, a unique identifier that each drive stick is given when formatted. Mounting by UUID guarantees that each drive is always mounted at the same mount point.
adbFire creates a script that is automatically run at boot to mount your drives. It uses the busybox run-parts command to run scripts which it places in /etc/init.d. It handles drives formatted with EXT?, ExFat, NTFS and VFAT. UUID is a work in progress, just introduced in the current version, v1.14.
adbFire has a topic here in the xda Fire TV forum. Feel free to ask further questions there.
just EXT?
so atm i cant mount my NTFS and FAT32 drives with that method?
DEREKTROTTER said:
just EXT?
so atm i cant mount my NTFS and FAT32 drives with that method?
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Look again. EXT2/3/4 NTFS,ExFAT and VFAT.
In my case I only have my external usb 3 ssd that I connect., which means there is no need to give it any priority. I have moved all the AFTV storage to the ssd and boot up from it. All I need is a usb 3 hub that is compatible with the external to boot my AFTV up. I can then connect anything else to the usb hub.
So frustrated, got a powered usb hub and connected 2TB HDD and its turned out a fail. XBMC freezes up / stickmount takes forever and sometimes not at all.
Got the fire tv mainly to play back my movie collection but seems it wont be done so easily.
I exchanged the 4 port hub with a 7 port hub and filled up all the ports with USB sticks and hard drives. FireTV boots while the hub and all the drives are connected, and everything works fine. If you don't need a USB 3.0 hub for other things down the road, you might want to give this one a try.
tenderidol said:
I exchanged the 4 port hub with a 7 port hub and filled up all the ports with USB sticks and hard drives. FireTV boots while the hub and all the drives are connected, and everything works fine. If you don't need a USB 3.0 hub for other things down the road, you might want to give this one a try.
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Thanks for the links... Will keep an eye out for them for BlackFriday. Since I am on the market for 3 ( 3 FTV's ). I was leaning on getting 3 Transcend TS-HUB3K Powered USB 3.0 - 4 Port Hub's But is not like the AFTV's will ever need USB 3.0. The price on the 7 port hub should cut my per unit price by half after coupons... Wonder how low can they go..
has anyone used a powered HDD with the fire tv directly? e.g a 4TB seagate
i would assume they would not need a powered hubbut not sure
Really frustrated as i have 2 portable HDD and both experience freezing and buffering with movie playback from them. I sometimes have to reboot the AFTV just to stop the freezing. I got a fire TV to replace a WD HDTV live as i was getting freezing on there and it seems to be still happening :/
Please post here the HDDs you use that play files perfectly.
Thanks