Gen9 Full Size USB Slot - Thoughts - Gen8 General

Hi Folks
I've been playing around with a 101 Gen9 and in particular the Full Size USB Slot on the back.
On the Archos WebSite in the FAQ they state:
What can I plug in the USB port on the back of the tablet?
The USB host port on the back of your G9 tablet is reserved for only the ARCHOS G9 3G Stick. You will not be able to plug any other USB devices in this port.
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I have been doing some of my own testing on this port and found that not to be the case
Every device I plugged into it has worked in one way or another (very much another in some cases)
1. The tablet has been rooted using letma's method.
2. You need to turn on the "3G Stick" in the Wireless Settings
3. The tablet Was Plugged In
On point 3. I have no idea how the battery was doing. especially with some of the more power hungry usb devices.
Here's a list of what I've tested
Not Working:
Keyboard (USB 1.1)
Working:
Kingston Data Traveller II+ (USB 2.0) - Picked up as external storage
HTC Hero Mass Storage
HTC Debug Bridge (Required Root for adb)
HTC Sensation Mass Storage
HTC Sensation Debug Bridge (Required Root for adb)
4 Port HUB (USB 2.0)
A Couple of observations.
After turning the 3G Stick on I restarted the device
I had to plug the USB devices while the tablet was starting for it to be picked up.
The Keyboard worked when plugged into the 4 Port USB Hub. I think the keyboard will function on its own with the right kernel modules
No Device showed up as The "External Storage" in the "Files" program when plugged into the Hub, even though I mounted the device (/dev/block/sd*) from terminal emulator to the /mnt/ext_storage folder.I suspect it is looking for a specific USB device number as the external storage device.
I suppose it would be good if some other people to test what USB devices they have to hand to see what works, maybe we could build a list of functioning devices. I'm going to investigate getting the Keyboard going on it's own, which is what sparked this off and also test some external hard drives with various file systems.
I hope someone finds this helpful
Trev

For me the usb stick and hard drive is working on the stock archos firmware without reboot!

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OTG and power

so picture it you're using the tablet for video or music running from a memory stick via OTG and you want to be able to power/charge the device at the same time without having to remove the pen drive is there any way of achieving this?
some kind of pass through device perhaps or a usb hub of sorts?
How to power with usb-otg
I can't confirm whether this will work for the Nexus 7 but it has worked on my Triumph and Photon 4G. Go to meritline.com and look for a Pisen® Multi Purpose USB Hub, White (sorry can't post links yet.) Plug your otg into the white port and the red into any available usb power supply (be it a laptop or charger) you may want to have an extension available depending on your set-up. For me this has provided power to keep device charged as well as interface thumb drives, card readers, etc, has even powered a bus-powered external hdd with no problems.

Using wifi modules usb port for another device

Hi everyone,
I was developing a tablet application for controlling a circuit but now i stuck here somewhere.. there are a few options that i think about what to do after this stage. I need 2 usb ports , one for a usb serial converter (namely pl-2303) and other one is a standart flash drive. I tried to use a hub connected to an OTG cable with no luck. When i plug only one of my devices to OTG port they all work but when i plug 2 of them to hub system freeze or doesn't mount my flash drive. I tried 3 different hubs they are not working. Sometimes i made this setup running with an sd card reader instead of flash and a digitus converter instead of pl-2303. Then i though this can be an issue with the USB 1.1 - 2.0 specifications because pl-2303 is a USB 1.1 device and the rest is 2.0.
After i realize the realtek wifi module in the tablet is also mounted to a USB port i removed the module to check if i can connect one of my devices to that port. But as usual the wifi driver of the system is controlling this port , so when i try to power up the port, system checks if it can find the realtek module and when it cant detect realtek wireless module just shuts down the port back. While this happens i can see my device is connected to system for a few seconds before the driver shut it down.
So this is the all story. I just need this 2 device to work together. I am waiting for your opinions
The tablet is a ATM 7021 processor based cheap tablet.
Thanks in advance.

USB OTG a few things tested...

I've no idea if this will be of interest to any of you, especially those people who have yet to buy a 5t and are trying weigh up the pros and cons, but USB OTG is something I use all the time, so o it was one of the first things I tested when I got mine. So far I'm really pleased as everything I wanted to work does so. My last device, a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, had very poor USB OTG implementation so this is great from my point of view. Maybe I'm behind the times and I had the last phone on the planet with that problem - if so, please delete this mods
First off, before you can use USB OTG, you need to head into settings, then advanced and check the OTG setting. It turns off after ten minutes so I created a link on my homepage using Nova launcher's activity widget menu.
*EDIT* As ny-hardcore has kindly pointed out below, you can also have an OTG quick toggle in notification area. This didn't work for me at first (or I was hitting the wrong thing), but now it does .
Tested and working:
USB card readers of various types, including micro USB readers, with the help of a USB C to Micro USB adapter (5 for £4 on eBay!). The only one that didn't work is a proprietary Samsung multi card reader that also has a full sized USB output and HDMI out too. This isn't very surprising of course, but they're to be avoided if you see one on eBay and assume it's a generic adapter.
80 GB iPod hard drive in a cheap enclosure bought via Amazon.
1 TB 2.5" Western Digital HDD - that's right, no USB hub required, just plug it straight in. The only other portable device I've owned could power it was a Samsung tablet.
2 mega pixel boroscope (using USB Camera app in Play Store) . So useful for finding slow water leaks under the floor or peering down a spark plug hole into a cylinder!!
Micro USB DVB TV dongle, via adapter.
Keyboards and mice via an OTG adapter, including a combination media keyboard with built in trackball mouse (this usually doesn't work on my phones for some reason). The UK keyboard layout is supported via settings so you can have a £ key - woohoo!
Other phones! I plugged my old phone in and discovered I could mount it in MTP mode and then browse its contents from the built in file explorer. For what it's worth, the Oneplus even charges the device that's connected to it.
When you need to eject the device there's a button that appears in the notification area. Sometimes this gets obscured, so swipe down a second time and the 'eject' will appear.
I haven't tried any game controllers yet, but so far the support has been so comprehensive I don't see why there would be a problem.
In the attached photo, the only thing that doesn't work is the black coloured multi purpose card reader on the far right.
In quick toggles you can add an otg switch.
You don't have to go in settings that way to enable otg.
ny-hardcore said:
In quick toggles you can add an otg switch
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Thanks, for some reason that just didn't work for me unless I went into settings/advanced as well. I can't recall which firmware I was on at the time and I haven't tried since The quick toggles are so far away for my little hands too (please Oneplus add a Xiaomi one handed mode - in fact, make it EXACTLY like Xiaomi devices).
LOL, typical, now it does work for me! I was probably pressing flight mode by mistake or something.
Just FYI, I've tried the following USB DACs with an OTG cable on my 5T and they appear to work:
- Fiio E17
- Meridian Explorer (v1)
- Audioquest Dragonfly (v1)
I just discovered my old Saitek X35/X36 throttle/joystick combo works too! That's a first for one of my Android devices too. Now I need something fun to test it with
I'm using an IrigUA without any problem so far...
eboissier said:
I'm using an IrigUA without any problem so far...
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Good news for the fret shredders out there
Are those also working well in twrp?
jkyoho said:
Are those also working well in twrp?
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Sorry, I haven't tried. I'm still fully stock for now, including the recovery.
Has anyone gotten USB sound cards to work *for recording*.
Like I have a Terratec Aureon USB MkII and would like to livestream my DJ sets to Facebook via the FB app, by hooking up the line-out on my decks to the line-in on a soundcard hooked up to my phone and have the streamed video use the soundcard instead of the internal mic which sounds rubbish.
Edit: Tried it, and yes it works, but you have to hook up to the mic port, not the line in, and this doesn't seem like a great idea. Any idea how to change it?
Edit2: Scratch that, phone rebooted itself during a longer test
Lum_UK said:
Has anyone gotten USB sound cards to work *for recording*.
Like I have a Terratec Aureon USB MkII and would like to livestream my DJ sets to Facebook via the FB app, by hooking up the line-out on my decks to the line-in on a soundcard hooked up to my phone and have the streamed video use the soundcard instead of the internal mic which sounds rubbish.
Edit: Tried it, and yes it works, but you have to hook up to the mic port, not the line in, and this doesn't seem like a great idea. Any idea how to change it?
Edit2: Scratch that, phone rebooted itself during a longer test
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That would be so cool if you can get it working. Wonder if it's the phone or the Terratec? I have NO experience in that area. Good luck! How much power does it draw? Would a powered USB hub in the mix help?
Hadn't thoughtof the power draw issue.
What I really need is a super cheap low power USB line-in of some sort. Though after further testing, FB live streaming is crap, with low quality audio and video in all the configurations I tried (Android app, Win10+Firefox, Win10 app) so I'm probably going to abandon this plan and try a different platform like Youtube or something.
Just cant get otg to work in my device, I am on OOS 4.7.5, rooted with SuperSu, tried a type c to micro USB adapter, also a type c to USB 3.0 adapter, I have enabled the otg option in advanced settings before plugging in the devices, I don't know whether its the phone or the adapter I use, what kind of adapter did you buy, is it a type c 3.1 to micro USB 2.0/ USB 3.0, could you provide me with a name of the adapter.
freegame619 said:
Just cant get otg to work in my device, I am on OOS 4.7.5, rooted with SuperSu, tried a type c to micro USB adapter, also a type c to USB 3.0 adapter, I have enabled the otg option in advanced settings before plugging in the devices, I don't know whether its the phone or the adapter I use, what kind of adapter did you buy, is it a type c 3.1 to micro USB 2.0/ USB 3.0, could you provide me with a name of the adapter.
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I have the following USB OTG adapters.
2 X micro USB to full sized USB (the long type with a two inch cable).
1 X mini micro USB adapter that is tiny.
1 X micro USB adapter (bigger than above)
1 X USB C OTG adapter with micro SD card reader built in.
All of the above work. In the case of the micro USB OTG adapters, I'm using a USB C to Micro USB adapter (they're tiny, about 2 CM long).
In short, every USB OTG adapter I've put in it works. All are unbranded, generic adapters that I've bought from Amazon or eBay. I've never had to do anything more than enable OTG in settings.
Could it be something to do with the ROM you're using?
In the attached photo, the ones with a yellow Mark are micro USB OTG adapters. The one with a red mark is a USB C multi card reader (built in USB OTG). The one with a blue mark is a USB C to Micro USB adapter.
Lum_UK said:
Hadn't thoughtof the power draw issue.
What I really need is a super cheap low power USB line-in of some sort. Though after further testing, FB live streaming is crap, with low quality audio and video in all the configurations I tried (Android app, Win10+Firefox, Win10 app) so I'm probably going to abandon this plan and try a different platform like Youtube or something.
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Sadly what you're doing is way beyond anything I've tried. I'm happy when I can get card readers and stuff to work
I vaguely recall reading about specifications for the older micro USB ports on phones and what type of power output they supported - not all were equal. For example, there were a bunch of Samsung phones and tablets that could power hard drives without needing a powered USB hub inline. Similarly, some could power an MHL connection to a TV without the adapter being plugged into a charger like most phones that supported MHL had to. I've forgotten the name for these specs, but presumably USB C is exactly the same and it'll be online somewhere. No idea what your Terratec draws or if that could be the problem - if our phones can spin a 1 TB hard drive then perhaps it's not an issue, I was just clutching at straws.
Good luck!
Ouzo said:
I have the following USB OTG adapters.
2 X micro USB to full sized USB (the long type with a two inch cable).
1 X mini micro USB adapter that is tiny.
1 X micro USB adapter (bigger than above)
1 X USB C OTG adapter with micro SD card reader built in.
All of the above work. In the case of the micro USB OTG adapters, I'm using a USB C to Micro USB adapter (they're tiny, about 2 CM long).
In short, every USB OTG adapter I've put in it works. All are unbranded, generic adapters that I've bought from Amazon or eBay. I've never had to do anything more than enable OTG in settings.
Could it be something to do with the ROM you're using?
In the attached photo, the ones with a yellow Mark are micro USB OTG adapters. The one with a red mark is a USB C multi card reader (built in USB OTG). The one with a blue mark is a USB C to Micro USB adapter.
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I am on official OOS 4.7.5 rooted with supersu, on which rom are you, is it 4.7.4, are you rooted, are you using any custom kernel.
freegame619 said:
I am on official OOS 4.7.5 rooted with supersu, on which rom are you, is it 4.7.4, are you rooted, are you using any custom kernel.
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4.7.4 Stock. Stock recovery too (not rooted either).
USB OTG worked on stock 4.7.2 as well.
Working fine for me, stock, custom roms etc. Use a cableconnection usb/otg cable 6" in length. Just enable OTG in the swipe down, plus USB stick in...no problems.
I gave up on using the phone for this because the audio quality via the FB app is terrible anyway, so I nicked my GF's Windows laptop and started using OBS for streaming instead.
Power aside, it's awesome that an external sound card will work (kinda) for recording though!.
techlogik said:
Working fine for me, stock, custom roms etc. Use a cableconnection usb/otg cable 6" in length. Just enable OTG in the swipe down, plus USB stick in...no problems.
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On which ROM version are you on, is OOS 4.7.5 or another version of OOS or some other ROMs.
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Ouzo said:
4.7.4 Stock. Stock recovery too (not rooted either).
USB OTG worked on stock 4.7.2 as well.
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Thanks for the reply, I am beginning to think that it kind of an issue with OOS 4.7.5, I have to flash the old version and try my luck on it.

[Q] USB OTG behaviour

Hi,
So I'm developing an app to communicate over serial with a HID and testing on the g6 is proving troublesome.
The scene:
-Hid/USB Permissions granted
-Device filter correct and working as intended
-Goal is to send a string over serial.
Allthough I'm 100% sure my test code is correct, the app cannot open a serial port.
Is it normal behaviour in recent versions of android for the device to recognise an otg cable as a power source? Even with no other device connected? Are there any known issues opening serial ports on the g6? (7.0)
The cable works as intended when I plug a mouse or keyboard in but refuses to open a serial connection when my takget device is plugged in. It recognises it as a HID an can pull the serial number etc.
The android serial library should not require root or any other hackery So I'm a bit confused. I've ordered a few other otg adapters just in case.
Anyone who knows what might be going on pleas pitch in.
I've had some issues getting a serial adaptor working as well. I'm on 870DS. Originally tried the wired version of this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...odemu-connect-android-to-30pin-t3234840/page1
Thank God the developer changed to Bluetooth. I tried about 6 different otg cables. Worked fine on other non usb-c phones.
I suspect it is the adapter too...sucks so bad. The annoying thing is that I was so confident in android serial that I wrote a lot of code before I bothered testing the concept lol.
Does your OTG work on memory sticks OK? I have a G6 h870ds. My OTG only works for me with USB3 OTG adapters and USB3 memory sticks. I don't have a USB3 HID device to try. I now have a large collection of different OTG adapters and memory sticks. I opened up some of the adapters to buzz them through to make sure they were made correctly. They were! It took a while for the penny to drop why some things worked and some didn't!
I cant use USB2 OTG adapters or USB2 memory sticks, keyboards or cameras. Initial connection of the USB2 OTG adapter is recognized but no connected devices are detected. I used an app called USB Device Info that can give me details of detected devices and only USB3 devices are ever detected.
I have a USB2 memory stick with an LED on it. When it is first connected to the OTG cable it flashes in a way that leads me to think it is trying to reply to USB bus interrogation but something (probably software) fails. The phone connects to my USB2 PC port just fine so I don't think the hardware is at fault. I've reset the phone and upgraded to Oreo too but alas that didn't help.
A friend of mine has a G6 H870S and all my adapters and memory stick combinations work fine on his phone so I find myself wondering if I'm just unlucky or whether the dual sim version is subtly different in some way.
I fully admit I know nothing about the inner workings of USB but as far as I can determine USB3 uses all of the USB2 connections and the additional connections only available on a USB3 port so the hardware should be OK. I'm guessing most HID devices are USB2 but if its a USB3 could you possible have a related problem but in reverse?
Every time I plug in any USB OTG adapter I get that same pop up screen that defaults to select as "power supply" even with no device connected whatever I have previously chosen.
What works for me is to plug in the OTG adapter, and only then plug in the memory stick to it. Otherwise I get the "Power supply" thing too.
Arak0n said:
What works for me is to plug in the OTG adapter, and only then plug in the memory stick to it. Otherwise I get the "Power supply" thing too.
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Leaving just the OTG adapter connected for a few seconds then attaching the usb device does not help. USB2 devices are never detected but all my various USB3 memory sticks work reliably when using a USB3 spec adapter. I've given up worrying about it now and accepted that there is just something a bit iffy about my G6.

"USB drive is safely ejected" and "Not connected"

I launched an app on my Nvidia Shield TV today only to have it stop during the loading process and return me to the home screen. I was stumped as to why the app was no longer there, and after a re-boot, I made my way to Settings > Device Preferences > Storage, only to discover that in addition to my Internal shared storage, I had two additional messages:
SanDisk USB drive is safely ejected
(Sandisk USB drive) Not connected
This is a Sandisk Ultrafit USB 3.0, one of the ones that was recommended by NVidia to use with the Sield.
I've tried unplugging the USB drive, powering off, unplugging the Shield, re-plugging the USB drive in. I've also tried plugging the USB into my PC (not recognized, needs to be formatted) and "Safely ejecting", but no difference.
What's going on, and how do I get the Shield to recognize this drive again without losing everything I had installed on it?
Probably USB drive get corrupted or even worse, broken. Happened to me with some cheap drive connected to RBPi. Disappeared from Linux, PC couldn't recognize either and it was even showing physical damage of overheating?!
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usb stick
Nvidia no longer recommend USB sticks or using ES file explore its a usb stick killer . usb sticks overheat and die
only USB 3.0 SSDs are recommended now
wwmoggy said:
Nvidia no longer recommend USB sticks or using ES file explore its a usb stick killer . usb sticks overheat and die
only USB 3.0 SSDs are recommended now
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Thanks. I didn't know that.
Do you know if they have a list recommending which 3.0 SSD's to use?
aagha said:
Thanks. I didn't know that.
Do you know if they have a list recommending which 3.0 SSD's to use?
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They don't recommend anything anymore, other than a fast ssd.
However, they did sort of recommend the SanDisk Extreme PRO Portable SSD before the list got removed.
Don't think you will go wrong with a samsung t5 or a western digital my passport either.
These are the most "recommended" and used usb ssd's.

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