I've no idea if this will be of interest to any of you, especially those people who have yet to buy a 5t and are trying weigh up the pros and cons, but USB OTG is something I use all the time, so o it was one of the first things I tested when I got mine. So far I'm really pleased as everything I wanted to work does so. My last device, a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, had very poor USB OTG implementation so this is great from my point of view. Maybe I'm behind the times and I had the last phone on the planet with that problem - if so, please delete this mods
First off, before you can use USB OTG, you need to head into settings, then advanced and check the OTG setting. It turns off after ten minutes so I created a link on my homepage using Nova launcher's activity widget menu.
*EDIT* As ny-hardcore has kindly pointed out below, you can also have an OTG quick toggle in notification area. This didn't work for me at first (or I was hitting the wrong thing), but now it does .
Tested and working:
USB card readers of various types, including micro USB readers, with the help of a USB C to Micro USB adapter (5 for £4 on eBay!). The only one that didn't work is a proprietary Samsung multi card reader that also has a full sized USB output and HDMI out too. This isn't very surprising of course, but they're to be avoided if you see one on eBay and assume it's a generic adapter.
80 GB iPod hard drive in a cheap enclosure bought via Amazon.
1 TB 2.5" Western Digital HDD - that's right, no USB hub required, just plug it straight in. The only other portable device I've owned could power it was a Samsung tablet.
2 mega pixel boroscope (using USB Camera app in Play Store) . So useful for finding slow water leaks under the floor or peering down a spark plug hole into a cylinder!!
Micro USB DVB TV dongle, via adapter.
Keyboards and mice via an OTG adapter, including a combination media keyboard with built in trackball mouse (this usually doesn't work on my phones for some reason). The UK keyboard layout is supported via settings so you can have a £ key - woohoo!
Other phones! I plugged my old phone in and discovered I could mount it in MTP mode and then browse its contents from the built in file explorer. For what it's worth, the Oneplus even charges the device that's connected to it.
When you need to eject the device there's a button that appears in the notification area. Sometimes this gets obscured, so swipe down a second time and the 'eject' will appear.
I haven't tried any game controllers yet, but so far the support has been so comprehensive I don't see why there would be a problem.
In the attached photo, the only thing that doesn't work is the black coloured multi purpose card reader on the far right.
In quick toggles you can add an otg switch.
You don't have to go in settings that way to enable otg.
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In quick toggles you can add an otg switch
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Thanks, for some reason that just didn't work for me unless I went into settings/advanced as well. I can't recall which firmware I was on at the time and I haven't tried since The quick toggles are so far away for my little hands too (please Oneplus add a Xiaomi one handed mode - in fact, make it EXACTLY like Xiaomi devices).
LOL, typical, now it does work for me! I was probably pressing flight mode by mistake or something.
Just FYI, I've tried the following USB DACs with an OTG cable on my 5T and they appear to work:
- Fiio E17
- Meridian Explorer (v1)
- Audioquest Dragonfly (v1)
I just discovered my old Saitek X35/X36 throttle/joystick combo works too! That's a first for one of my Android devices too. Now I need something fun to test it with
I'm using an IrigUA without any problem so far...
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I'm using an IrigUA without any problem so far...
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Good news for the fret shredders out there
Are those also working well in twrp?
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Are those also working well in twrp?
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Sorry, I haven't tried. I'm still fully stock for now, including the recovery.
Has anyone gotten USB sound cards to work *for recording*.
Like I have a Terratec Aureon USB MkII and would like to livestream my DJ sets to Facebook via the FB app, by hooking up the line-out on my decks to the line-in on a soundcard hooked up to my phone and have the streamed video use the soundcard instead of the internal mic which sounds rubbish.
Edit: Tried it, and yes it works, but you have to hook up to the mic port, not the line in, and this doesn't seem like a great idea. Any idea how to change it?
Edit2: Scratch that, phone rebooted itself during a longer test
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Has anyone gotten USB sound cards to work *for recording*.
Like I have a Terratec Aureon USB MkII and would like to livestream my DJ sets to Facebook via the FB app, by hooking up the line-out on my decks to the line-in on a soundcard hooked up to my phone and have the streamed video use the soundcard instead of the internal mic which sounds rubbish.
Edit: Tried it, and yes it works, but you have to hook up to the mic port, not the line in, and this doesn't seem like a great idea. Any idea how to change it?
Edit2: Scratch that, phone rebooted itself during a longer test
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That would be so cool if you can get it working. Wonder if it's the phone or the Terratec? I have NO experience in that area. Good luck! How much power does it draw? Would a powered USB hub in the mix help?
Hadn't thoughtof the power draw issue.
What I really need is a super cheap low power USB line-in of some sort. Though after further testing, FB live streaming is crap, with low quality audio and video in all the configurations I tried (Android app, Win10+Firefox, Win10 app) so I'm probably going to abandon this plan and try a different platform like Youtube or something.
Just cant get otg to work in my device, I am on OOS 4.7.5, rooted with SuperSu, tried a type c to micro USB adapter, also a type c to USB 3.0 adapter, I have enabled the otg option in advanced settings before plugging in the devices, I don't know whether its the phone or the adapter I use, what kind of adapter did you buy, is it a type c 3.1 to micro USB 2.0/ USB 3.0, could you provide me with a name of the adapter.
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Just cant get otg to work in my device, I am on OOS 4.7.5, rooted with SuperSu, tried a type c to micro USB adapter, also a type c to USB 3.0 adapter, I have enabled the otg option in advanced settings before plugging in the devices, I don't know whether its the phone or the adapter I use, what kind of adapter did you buy, is it a type c 3.1 to micro USB 2.0/ USB 3.0, could you provide me with a name of the adapter.
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I have the following USB OTG adapters.
2 X micro USB to full sized USB (the long type with a two inch cable).
1 X mini micro USB adapter that is tiny.
1 X micro USB adapter (bigger than above)
1 X USB C OTG adapter with micro SD card reader built in.
All of the above work. In the case of the micro USB OTG adapters, I'm using a USB C to Micro USB adapter (they're tiny, about 2 CM long).
In short, every USB OTG adapter I've put in it works. All are unbranded, generic adapters that I've bought from Amazon or eBay. I've never had to do anything more than enable OTG in settings.
Could it be something to do with the ROM you're using?
In the attached photo, the ones with a yellow Mark are micro USB OTG adapters. The one with a red mark is a USB C multi card reader (built in USB OTG). The one with a blue mark is a USB C to Micro USB adapter.
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Hadn't thoughtof the power draw issue.
What I really need is a super cheap low power USB line-in of some sort. Though after further testing, FB live streaming is crap, with low quality audio and video in all the configurations I tried (Android app, Win10+Firefox, Win10 app) so I'm probably going to abandon this plan and try a different platform like Youtube or something.
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Sadly what you're doing is way beyond anything I've tried. I'm happy when I can get card readers and stuff to work
I vaguely recall reading about specifications for the older micro USB ports on phones and what type of power output they supported - not all were equal. For example, there were a bunch of Samsung phones and tablets that could power hard drives without needing a powered USB hub inline. Similarly, some could power an MHL connection to a TV without the adapter being plugged into a charger like most phones that supported MHL had to. I've forgotten the name for these specs, but presumably USB C is exactly the same and it'll be online somewhere. No idea what your Terratec draws or if that could be the problem - if our phones can spin a 1 TB hard drive then perhaps it's not an issue, I was just clutching at straws.
Good luck!
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I have the following USB OTG adapters.
2 X micro USB to full sized USB (the long type with a two inch cable).
1 X mini micro USB adapter that is tiny.
1 X micro USB adapter (bigger than above)
1 X USB C OTG adapter with micro SD card reader built in.
All of the above work. In the case of the micro USB OTG adapters, I'm using a USB C to Micro USB adapter (they're tiny, about 2 CM long).
In short, every USB OTG adapter I've put in it works. All are unbranded, generic adapters that I've bought from Amazon or eBay. I've never had to do anything more than enable OTG in settings.
Could it be something to do with the ROM you're using?
In the attached photo, the ones with a yellow Mark are micro USB OTG adapters. The one with a red mark is a USB C multi card reader (built in USB OTG). The one with a blue mark is a USB C to Micro USB adapter.
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I am on official OOS 4.7.5 rooted with supersu, on which rom are you, is it 4.7.4, are you rooted, are you using any custom kernel.
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I am on official OOS 4.7.5 rooted with supersu, on which rom are you, is it 4.7.4, are you rooted, are you using any custom kernel.
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4.7.4 Stock. Stock recovery too (not rooted either).
USB OTG worked on stock 4.7.2 as well.
Working fine for me, stock, custom roms etc. Use a cableconnection usb/otg cable 6" in length. Just enable OTG in the swipe down, plus USB stick in...no problems.
I gave up on using the phone for this because the audio quality via the FB app is terrible anyway, so I nicked my GF's Windows laptop and started using OBS for streaming instead.
Power aside, it's awesome that an external sound card will work (kinda) for recording though!.
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Working fine for me, stock, custom roms etc. Use a cableconnection usb/otg cable 6" in length. Just enable OTG in the swipe down, plus USB stick in...no problems.
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On which ROM version are you on, is OOS 4.7.5 or another version of OOS or some other ROMs.
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4.7.4 Stock. Stock recovery too (not rooted either).
USB OTG worked on stock 4.7.2 as well.
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Thanks for the reply, I am beginning to think that it kind of an issue with OOS 4.7.5, I have to flash the old version and try my luck on it.
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I bought a USB female to female adapter to plug on the end of the charging cord, some things work, some things don't.
List of devices that work:
HTC Hero - Mass Storage mode (works 2 out of 5 tries aprox.)
Logitech G9 - Works, although only default buttons (left, right, scroll, middle) seem to work
SanDisk Cruzer 4GB USB Stick - Works
Generic Logitech wired keyboard - Works, although not all keys do.
List of devices that DON'T work:
Logitech Wireless Keyboard K250
USB external DAC
Generic Logitech USB mouse
I hope it can read usb flash drive too !!! already bought my female-to-female adapter too
I just tried hooking up my HTC hero with mass storage enabled and it seems to be hit and miss? It recognizes it 2 out of 5 times or so.
How about finding and wiring USB from the 40 pin connector
It is a given the 40 pin connector has USB. Does anyone have pinout / mating connector info?
Sweet, can you check external HDD? Powered 3.5 and portable 2.5in if possible?
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Sweet, can you check external HDD? Powered 3.5 and portable 2.5in if possible?
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Don't have any on hand at the moment, I will possibly have access to an ext HDD tomorrow though and will check it then if I can.
That's great news. I did like having USB host on my GTab.
i'm assuming it's all fat32. it would be nice if ntfs worked out the box.
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i'm assuming it's all fat32. it would be nice if ntfs worked out the box.
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NTFS SHOULD be supported, but yes mine are all FAT32/FATex/ext4
i will have to try again, i built a gender changer, tried it with one mouse, and it did not work so i assumed it would not work for anything, i'll have to try some thumb drives or something.
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i will have to try again, i built a gender changer, tried it with one mouse, and it did not work so i assumed it would not work for anything, i'll have to try some thumb drives or something.
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it seems really picky, it recognized my G9 mouse but not a generic logitech one.
Just speculating, but I would guess that it isn't up to spec. So devices that have looser requirements will work (say it can take 4V instead of requiring 5V), but devices with stricter requirements fail.
did you try a all-in-one type card reader?
or connect digital camera to it?
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i will have to try again, i built a gender changer, tried it with one mouse, and it did not work so i assumed it would not work for anything, i'll have to try some thumb drives or something.
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Isn't that because USB mouse support is not in Honeycomb yet?
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Isn't that because USB mouse support is not in Honeycomb yet?
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No, Usb mouse is supported by HC. You can use one with the dock. This is more likely a power thing. The port's main use is power in and data, not power out. It may have strange limits.
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did you try a all-in-one type card reader?
or connect digital camera to it?
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don't have any of those, sorry.
Picked up a USB female to female plug today, and proceeded to plug in various drives, mice, Phoness etc, but no sign of anything happening at all. Is there something else I'm missing here? Cheers.
Can anyone with an SD/card reader see if it's recognized?
I'm going on vacation soon and would love to back up my photos to the TF.
Thought about this 2 days ago and bought one yesterday. Tried to plug in my Inspire 4G, external USB HDD and USB jumpdrive. None of them worked.
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Can anyone with an SD/card reader see if it's recognized?
I'm going on vacation soon and would love to back up my photos to the TF.
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I tried a multi card reader and it didn't work. I didn't try a card reader that reads only SD (don't have one) but I doubt that it's gonna work given everything else I tried didn't (usb mouse, usb flash drives, Nikon DSLR)
Ok, in theory Galaxy S 2 supports USB On-The-Go which means, it can be a USB host device for things like pendrives, digital cameras etc.
Granted of course, that you have the necessary cable.
Has anyone tried this feature?
Also, does the connected device have to be formatted as fat32?
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Ok, in theory Galaxy S 2 supports USB On-The-Go which means, it can be a USB host device for things like pendrives, digital cameras etc.
Granted of course, that you have the necessary cable.
Has anyone tried this feature?
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Look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrKkklO_Fok
Greetz Tokl
According to you, would also be possible to connect to galaxy s2 an usb device such a keyboard or a mouse like in nokia n8? This wuold be really great!
Longer demo of Galaxy S2 USB OTG using a USB drive, mouse, keyboard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJXF5pIITc
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Longer demo of Galaxy S2 USB OTG using a USB drive, mouse, keyboard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJXF5pIITc
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FYI, mouse and keyboard are bluetooth.
I agree with the reviewer, big black mark on Samsung for not including the required cables with the phone for USB and HDMI.
at about minut 4 he says that usb mouse and keyboard doesn't work.
this is really a bad news for me
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I am also afraid so When my phone arrives, I'll test it with ntfs & ext3.
Update on USB Mouse - some are working. Check my thread in the accessories forum for more details.
Hi there,
Got my £2 cable from Hong Kong (ebay purchase today).
Works great - even runs my 500GB HDD (this has to be plugged in to operate anyway - not sure USB powered HDDs will work).
If anyone's interested, the item description was:
Micro USB Host Cable for Nokia N810 OTG on the go N 810
No mention of the SGS2 - but I can verify that these work just fine!!!
Jamie
Any Nokia compatible OTG cable seem to work. I've successfully tested several different cables (all from eBay) with usb sticks, optical mouse and usb based memory card reader. However, usb based wifi sticks, fast ethernet dongle and tv-card didn't work. We probably need some new drivers and possibly more power (an usb hub could fix this).
I bought the Nokia USB OTG adapter too. With FAT32 Sticks ists working. But without NTFS support it is nearly useless for me.
umm...i have a nokia n8 and i took off the OTG cable that came with it before selling it in favor of buying a new Galaxy S 2.
However, the nokia OTG cable is perfectly rectangular, whereas the Galaxy S 2 cable connector is a bit "broken off" two edges, hence, using them is impossible together...but i managed to get them to work (in the shop where i tried the Galaxy S 2 at least, i didn't buy the phone yet).
I used a rasp, and filed off the edges of the Nokia OTG cable carefully to match the "broken edges" as the Galaxy S2's connector shape...took that cable to the shop where there is a working Galaxy S 2 unit, and connected it with a flash disk on the other side aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand......it worked !
If you have the caution and a rasp, i think Nokia's OTG cable should work too..they're cheap off ebay too, aren't they ?
Just ordered one of those off ebay (The Nokia N8 compatible one). Would receive it by tomorrow. I hope it works!
Here is mine ****ty review of USB mouse, USB keyboard and USB lamp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQn1DCA0PRQ
here's mine, got it also from ebay.
If you can't get it to recognize USB mass storage I would suggest using USB Mass Storage Watcher: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skidmrk.umswatcherotg. It will let you mount any type of external storage (NTFS, FAT 32/16, EXT, etc... It's free.
Also, this is a good USB host cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GGBYJ4?ie=UTF8&seller=A76FR6O1NBAXV&sn=T & S Electronics, LLC
I seem to get a "Clear USB" error when I plug in certain usb drives. I'm not sure if this is related to the drive being NTFS or if it is above a certain size. I can't for the life of me find any specs on the whole feature, including its maximum output power.
Could anyone shed some light on the subject from their trial and errors?
Thanks,
Alex
It works with a lot, but not all USB devices.
It doesn't read NTFS format.
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I seem to get a "Clear USB" error when I plug in certain usb drives. I'm not sure if this is related to the drive being NTFS or if it is above a certain size. I can't for the life of me find any specs on the whole feature, including its maximum output power.
Could anyone shed some light on the subject from their trial and errors?
Thanks,
Alex
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It works with a lot, but not all USB devices.
It doesn't read NTFS format.
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Maybe this will help you guys :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15167790&postcount=41
Greetz Tokl
Hello.
I decided to try and make a DIY OTG usb cable for my atrix, followed one of the many guides on the web.
How ever, Nothing seem to happen when I plug something to the phone.
I tried keyboards, mice, pen tablets, thumb drives, but nothing happens.
Also when I connect the phone to my laptop with the same cable, nothing happens either. (From reading around I think that should be expected)
Using another cable the laptop recognize the phone and all is well so I didn't fry the port.
Something else that might be worth mentioning, I use a male micro usb to male regular usb and a converter to female at the end of that one.
I tried it with both latest CM7 nightly and Jokers 0.6.9.1 CM9, both on their stock kernels.
So am I forgetting / missing something or should I take apart the cable again and check what's wrong?
Edit:
Toke apart the cable, removed the connection between pin4 and pin5 and the cable worked as a normal cable again.
Can't think of a reason why this isn't working.
normal OTG cables don't work with atrix,
I have read somewhere that you need to power the otg cable with external power source, you can mod a powered usb hub for example
Thank you.
I don't have a powered hub, nor a regular hub...
So I'll try to make a usb y cable that will power the mouse/keyboard and see if that will work.
Edit:
That did the trick.
Made a Y cable that connects the data between the phone (with OTG cable between) and device and an extension that connects both to power only (currently from laptop usb).
At first it didn't work at all but after a few tries it started to charge the phone, allowed me to connect a DOK and a mouse.
However didn't want to work for a 250HDD or a pen tablet.
I ordered a usb hub and hopefully it will allow me to connect several devices at once.
Thanks again.
I've messed around with this quite a bit. Unfortunately, it seems Faux kernels don't work great with a variety of devices, but work fine for mouse/keyboard. Don't even work very well for USB flash drives and such. I don't even know where to go to report such issues.
This also means on Joker's CM9 it doesn't work great even if it should. Don't forget that CM9 port is still using a Froyo (!) kernel.
It's honestly not even worth building your own cable. You can get hubs that work for this for $5 such as this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cable-style-dual-power-1000ma-usb-2-0-4-port-hub-13526
Which is the one I currently have.
I'm currently using latest CM7 with the stock kernel and have no issues with USB flash drives.
It usually brings a notification of "preparing SD card" and mounts it under /mnt/usbdisk_1.0
I tried making 4 partitions on a flash drive, EXT2, EXT4 , FAT32 and NTFS .
Thought it only mounted one of them on /mnt/usbdisk_1.0 , it was easy to mount the others /dev/block/sda<1,2,3,4> onto /mnt/usbdisk_1.<1,2,3,4> thus having simultaneous access to all 4 partitions.
How ever the NTFS one only had read permissions since android and NTFS don't go together too well.
The hub you linked to is just a hub, I needed an OTG cable and ordered a 0.99$ usb hub that I will modify for power. so pretty much all set now.
As to reporting such issues, you could ask on the forums if other people have the same issues and how they get around them.
I got these:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774
I tried all sorts of devices, not least of which was a 360 controller. The kernels are very spotty at recognizing new devices being attached.
this is on CM9 of course
I haven't tried to replicate that on CM7 because, frankly, CM7 isn't supposed to support 360 controllers.
The hub I linked is very convenient. It already has a USB power lead as well as a lead for the OTG adapter.
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Thank you.
I don't have a powered hub, nor a regular hub...
So I'll try to make a usb y cable that will power the mouse/keyboard and see if that will work.
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That did the trick.
Made a Y cable that connects the data between the phone (with OTG cable between) and device and an extension that connects both to power only (currently from laptop usb).
At first it didn't work at all but after a few tries it started to charge the phone, allowed me to connect a DOK and a mouse.
However didn't want to work for a 250HDD or a pen tablet.
I ordered a usb hub and hopefully it will allow me to connect several devices at once.
Thanks again.
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can you give me direction how you did that.. how u provide power without usb hub??
I was writing some dodgy instructions from memory when I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828032
Hope it helps.
Is there anyway we can use camera on Nook Hd+. As Nook HD or HD+ doesnt have an inbuilt camera. SO is there any app through which we can possibly use our laptop camera or any other, connecting it to the Nook via Bluetooth or USB or Wifi, thus, able to access camera on Nook.
In short, if we can use PC webcam as a camera on Nook by connecting it over USB or any. This will leave a huge room open for accessing great applications demanding the camera.
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Is there anyway we can use camera on Nook Hd+. As Nook HD or HD+ doesnt have an inbuilt camera. SO is there any app through which we can possibly use our laptop camera or any other, connecting it to the Nook via Bluetooth or USB or Wifi, thus, able to access camera on Nook.
In short, if we can use PC webcam as a camera on Nook by connecting it over USB or any. This will leave a huge room open for accessing great applications demanding the camera.
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First possible thing is Air Cam Live Video. But this maybe have many disadvantages for you.
Second i recommend look to this external link
For third i can say that Toshiba Folio 100 can use external USB webcam, but Folio have USB port too. I'm not familiar Nook 30 pin connector pinouts, but i hope there can be used for USB host too.
Yeah and hardware possibility is using some WiFi cam / spycam. Like this one on ebay (made just quick search for item, not for best price/deal). Disadvantage is that same time you can not connect your HD+ to another wifi network.
Edit: My mistake. This cam have two modes, infrastructure mode connecting it over local WiFi network or straight mode connecting HD/HD+ directly to camera.
Ip can will turn your phone into a wifi c connected comets which you can look at on some apps from play store,
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Is there anyway we can use camera on Nook Hd+. As Nook HD or HD+ doesnt have an inbuilt camera. SO is there any app through which we can possibly use our laptop camera or any other, connecting it to the Nook via Bluetooth or USB or Wifi, thus, able to access camera on Nook.
In short, if we can use PC webcam as a camera on Nook by connecting it over USB or any. This will leave a huge room open for accessing great applications demanding the camera.
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I've been working on this issue for about 2 weeks. One important question: Do you want a cam for security/surveillance/monitoring or for video conferencing/calls/Skype? The options for the former are much broader, but remember most security cams do not have voice capability. I'm in the video call camp.
If money is no object, I would think an IP cam with mic could do the trick, or possibly B/T, but since I'm looking for a cheaper solution and to have fun with this challenge, I'm going the USB route. For this purpose you need to make the HD plus become a USB Host just like your PC or Laptop. Not a problem, theoretically, since that capability is built into the Android OS on your device, but getting it to talk with a USB device, such as a camera, is another matter. Connecting it is the second challenge; there is no USB OTG cable (the "special" cable for USB Hosts) for the Nook. It would have a female USB connector on one end and Nook's (f**k**g) proprietary 30 pin male connector on the other, through which you'd connect your USB device. I've come up with a hardware workaround, but I'm waiting for a special connector coming on a slow boat from China. A side hardware problem is the lack of power coming into the USB Host (the Nook) and the USB Slave (the Cam), but utilizing a powered USB hub could solve it.
So, if the hardware problem is overcome, will it work? Video cam APKs are aplenty on Google Play, but I don't yet know if they will play (pun intended) well with the Nook's USB host adaptor set-up. I'll let you know. Total costs with a new cam will be less than $20; if you already have a USB cam (with built in mic), it'll be about $5. Nice.
Flamers put away your blow torches. If I really wanted or needed a cam I wouldn't have bought the Nook HD+. I know that. This is for cheap thrills.
RustedRoot said:
but I'm waiting for a special connector coming on a slow boat from China
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Can you share which one? I'm interested about it.
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Can you share which one? I'm interested about it.
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If anyone know something like this awesome app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5waWNhZGVsaWMuZnhndXJ1Il0.
Maybe if I can use my laptop camera to be used as on Nook , I can get some nice effects and definitely skype
RustedRoot said:
I've been working on this issue for about 2 weeks. One important question: Do you want a cam for security/surveillance/monitoring or for video conferencing/calls/Skype? The options for the former are much broader, but remember most security cams do not have voice capability. I'm in the video call camp.
If money is no object, I would think an IP cam with mic could do the trick, or possibly B/T, but since I'm looking for a cheaper solution and to have fun with this challenge, I'm going the USB route. For this purpose you need to make the HD plus become a USB Host just like your PC or Laptop. Not a problem, theoretically, since that capability is built into the Android OS on your device, but getting it to talk with a USB device, such as a camera, is another matter. Connecting it is the second challenge; there is no USB OTG cable (the "special" cable for USB Hosts) for the Nook. It would have a female USB connector on one end and Nook's (f**k**g) proprietary 30 pin male connector on the other, through which you'd connect your USB device. I've come up with a hardware workaround, but I'm waiting for a special connector coming on a slow boat from China. A side hardware problem is the lack of power coming into the USB Host (the Nook) and the USB Slave (the Cam), but utilizing a powered USB hub could solve it.
So, if the hardware problem is overcome, will it work? Video cam APKs are aplenty on Google Play, but I don't yet know if they will play (pun intended) well with the Nook's USB host adaptor set-up. I'll let you know. Total costs with a new cam will be less than $20; if you already have a USB cam (with built in mic), it'll be about $5. Nice.
Flamers put away your blow torches. If I really wanted or needed a cam I wouldn't have bought the Nook HD+. I know that. This is for cheap thrills.
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If anyone know something like this awesome app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5waWNhZGVsaWMuZnhndXJ1Il0.
Maybe if I can use my laptop camera to be used as on Nook , I can get some nice effects and definitely skype
datas0ft said:
Can you share which one? I'm interested about it.
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First, you must use a USB OTG cable with a special female USB connector (it'll look conventional) on one end which will identify the device as a USB Host. Unfortunately, most connectors on the other end are male micro usbs, or 30 pin Apple connectors, not the Nook 30-pin. I bought one with the male micro USB plug. Now I'll need a female micro USB to female USB adaptor to connect it to the Nook.. That's the special adaptor coming from China (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271094375029?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649).
The configuration of the set-up is this:
Plug in to a/c outlet a powered USB hub (2.0)
Connect the primary cable of the hub (i.e., the one that would go into a PC/laptop) to the hub and to the USB female end of OTG cable
Plug the OTG micro male to the like-female end of the special adaptor
Plug USB cable from the Nook into the other end of the special adaptor then into the Nook
Plug USB device you want to use with the Nook into one of the ports of the USB hub.
If all goes well the Nook should identify the device, but you'll need drivers and maybe an apk to use it. Whether the drivers load automatically or not remains to be seen.
If I get to that point I'll let you know what happens from there...
RustedRoot said:
The configuration of the set-up is this:
Plug in to a/c outlet a powered USB hub (2.0)
Connect the primary cable of the hub (i.e., the one that would go into a PC/laptop) to the hub and to the USB female end of OTG cable
Plug the OTG micro male to the like-female end of the special adaptor
Plug USB cable from the Nook into the other end of the special adaptor then into the Nook
Plug USB device you want to use with the Nook into one of the ports of the USB hub.
If all goes well the Nook should identify the device, but you'll need drivers and maybe an apk to use it. Whether the drivers load automatically or not remains to be seen.
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It would be surprising if this works. USB OTG cables have 5 pins; they distinguish the host side from the peripheral side by shorting the fifth pin to either ground or +5V. But the Nook's USB cable ends in a 4-pin connector. There's no way to tell it to act as a host.
On the bright side, the Nook's kernel definitely contains support for host-side USB. It has drivers for mass-storage, HID (mouse, keryboard, etc.), serial, and video devices. To use these facilities, though, it would be necessary to wire up your own 30-pin connector. As far as I know, B&N has not made the pin-outs public.
Delta^1_1 said:
It would be surprising if this works. USB OTG cables have 5 pins; they distinguish the host side from the peripheral side by shorting the fifth pin to either ground or +5V. But the Nook's USB cable ends in a 4-pin connector. There's no way to tell it to act as a host.
On the bright side, the Nook's kernel definitely contains support for host-side USB. It has drivers for mass-storage, HID (mouse, keryboard, etc.), serial, and video devices. To use these facilities, though, it would be necessary to wire up your own 30-pin connector. As far as I know, B&N has not made the pin-outs public.
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I was operating on the premise that only the female end of the OTG cable required the 4-to-5 jumper. Alas, the male end also requires the same configuration. I could tackle modding the female USB end, but the 30-pin connector is another story. Thanks again to B&N for making a proprietary cable. Another smart move on its part -- limiting the inherent functionality of this device. It hasn't made an OTG cable and probably never will since it is cutting back on its Nook investment. They blew it, but that's another story...
Appreciate your comments above.
I attach us electronic mechanic to investigate my opened HD+. Maybe we can find some interesting pins.
Only one i dont want to do, this is cutting off this 30 pin plug at cable side. Its hard and over prized to buy new cable to my destination.
RustedRoot said:
I bought one with the male micro USB plug. Now I'll need a female micro USB to female USB adaptor to connect it to the Nook.. That's the special adaptor coming from China (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271094375029?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649).
The configuration of the set-up is this:
Plug in to a/c outlet a powered USB hub (2.0)
Connect the primary cable of the hub (i.e., the one that would go into a PC/laptop) to the hub and to the USB female end of OTG cable
Plug the OTG micro male to the like-female end of the special adaptor
Plug USB cable from the Nook into the other end of the special adaptor then into the Nook
Plug USB device you want to use with the Nook into one of the ports of the USB hub.
If all goes well the Nook should identify the device, but you'll need drivers and maybe an apk to use it. Whether the drivers load automatically or not remains to be seen.
If I get to that point I'll let you know what happens from there...
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How did this ultimately work out?
RoundSparrow said:
How did this ultimately work out?
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No hardware fix, but follow this link to use a software hack which requires CM10.1 for your HD+: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307585 That should work.
Doesn't work because we need a camera app. Any ideas for that?
I have no luck getting devices to show or mount within Stock B27.
Flash Drive LEDs will blink upon booting up but then nothing after the phone is fully booted.
We know that OTG works fine on the Axon 7.
I know my hardware/adapter is mounting USB devices and works fine within TWRP.
I'm on Stock B27 by DrakenFX
Rooted
Unlocked Bootloader
Write Protection Disabled
Am I all alone? Any tips?
What devices are you trying to connect to your phone?
I had some issues at first, but realized I had to wait a bit longer for the phone to analyze the USB sticks or external 2.5in USB drives or external 3.5in USB drives.
When I plugged one in, it would show the little OTG symbol for something is connected, but the phone would be thinking for awhile before it would actually show up as a drive.
Have you tried a different rom? See if it's just a stock issue?
nolimit78 said:
Have you tried a different rom? See if it's just a stock issue?
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I haven't tried any other ROMs yet. I prefer to stay stock because aside from the OTG it works great and it's my daily driver. I may update to Nougat after a week or so. Kinda letting the update dust settle.
mozerxdaven said:
What devices are you trying to connect to your phone?
I had some issues at first, but realized I had to wait a bit longer for the phone to analyze the USB sticks or external 2.5in USB drives or external 3.5in USB drives.
When I plugged one in, it would show the little OTG symbol for something is connected, but the phone would be thinking for awhile before it would actually show up as a drive.
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I tried several devices, Flash Drives, Portable HDDs, SD Card readers, etc.
I've also tried plugging my 1GB flash drive in and restarting device.... waiting.... and no luck.
I'm under the impression it's something within the OS just not enabled/
I have the svae problem on Chinese device with European B09 rom.
Tried to connect through the adapter that comes included, and no response.
larsky said:
I tried several devices, Flash Drives, Portable HDDs, SD Card readers, etc.
I've also tried plugging my 1GB flash drive in and restarting device.... waiting.... and no luck.
I'm under the impression it's something within the OS just not enabled/
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Do you get the little OTG symbol that says something is connected when you plug anything to it?
I also had a problem once, which turned out to be a faulty adapter.
I've tried three different adapters (including the one that comes with the A7). I see the flash drives LEDs blink upon boot up but not after phone is fully powered up.
I was getting the contents on flash drives on Twrp but now I can't get that. Not sure what I've done differently, but I'll keep digging.
larsky said:
I've tried three different adapters (including the one that comes with the A7). I see the flash drives LEDs blink upon boot up but not after phone is fully powered up.
I was getting the contents on flash drives on Twrp but now I can't get that. Not sure what I've done differently, but I'll keep digging.
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I'm having the same issue. Tried 2 different micro USB otgs and 2 different adapters and no go.
Has anyone tried the type c OTG and not the micro with the adapter?
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Has anyone tried the type c OTG and not the micro with the adapter?
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I'm on stock B10 (A2017G) and have successfully used an OTG type C cable to transfer files to an external 3.0 HDD. It was fully powered by the phone.
You will need a USB-C to USB-A 3.0 Adapter to get it work, devices won't work attached to a normal USB-C to Micro USB Adapter. Neither with the adapter comes with the phone nor with an aftermarket (56K resistor) adapter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/accessories/usb-otg-usb-c-to-usb-3-0-adapter-t3544363
thefiqs said:
You will need a USB-C to USB-A 3.0 Adapter to get it work, devices won't work attached to a normal USB-C to Micro USB Adapter. Neither with the adapter comes with the phone nor with an aftermarket (56K resistor) adapter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/accessories/usb-otg-usb-c-to-usb-3-0-adapter-t3544363
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This is what DrakenFX recommends and works for him. This is also what I am using. It's definitely a software bottleneck somewhere in my case at least.
The USB-C to USB 3.0 Adapter I got is the one below:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EL4PVFE
thefiqs said:
You will need a USB-C to USB-A 3.0 Adapter to get it work, devices won't work attached to a normal USB-C to Micro USB Adapter. Neither with the adapter comes with the phone nor with an aftermarket (56K resistor) adapter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/accessories/usb-otg-usb-c-to-usb-3-0-adapter-t3544363
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Got my Type C OTG cable and can confirm that it works without a hitch.
Got this one from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017...type+c+otg&dpPl=1&dpID=41+5ur8uEVL&ref=plSrch