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From a Dutch site: http://www.tabletguide.nl/5393/samsung-galaxy-tab-krijgt-gingerbread-update/
Basically it says that Samsung employees in Germany have spread out the word that the Tab will get a Gingerbread update.... eventually (that is, they didn't mention when)
Let the FW leaks silently begin
That's not good news to me, I have a tablet, I want Honeycomb!
Lol. A firmware update is always good to me. Hopefully we'll get at least either.
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2.4
Gingerbread is basically the same as froyo. The only real improvement is making the text selecting more intuitive. I want the api from honeycomb, for dual pane applications and the new 3d interface.
So that means either honeycomb or 2.4. For me 2.4 is probably better, since I will meanly be using the tab as a phone with a tablet profile.
So Sammy, please give us 2.4 and not just 2.3.
yes, nothing to write home about
if you want 2.3 go get the cm7 beta from the dev section
what i want is a honeycomb port
It is a good thing, because of possibly updated drivers we can use in a Honeycomb port
Don't know if I want a honeycomb port. What I want is a performance improvement and Gingerbread is such an improvement. The JIT compiler is optimized again (like it was the case with froyo) and there is a concurrent garbage collector for better memory management.
If honeycomb is even faster (for a non dual core device) yes than I want honeycomb. And as for the beta build, I rather wait for a beta of the 2.4 Frankenstein build LoL
Furthermore, if Samsung is committing itself to an upgrade, this means the tab won't become obsolete when other new 7" tablets hit the market, like for example the Flyer. It means that they have plans to stay on top of this segment, which is great. Maybe they will also improve the built in Samsung software, like for example the browser and the mail app. So no buzz, but rather the real thing for me
I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I think it's relatively easy to map the galaxy Tabs hardware buttons to the software functionality as soon as the source goes AOSP
Then we can get rid of the software buttons too... boom! perfect!
I hope the new launcher doesn't eat up too much performance
and I fudging want GTalk with video support!
I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
Yay for gingerbread/icecream/icecream sandwich! (or whatever it's called these days) This is comforting news at least, knowing that they are not ditching the smaller device in favor of the shiny new 8.9 and 10 inch models..
Good news, but I want Honeycomb!
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I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
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I've read that the galaxy tab and galaxy line of phones have similar hardware... makes me think that new versions of android that are released for the phones could potentially work on our tabs.
not sure though, and im not a dev.. but i'd love some fresh official sgt firmware releases before samsung stops supporting the tab
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and i fudging want gtalk with video support! :d
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Looks like the Xoom and some new 7 inch tablets could be getting 3.2 in the coming weeks.
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/06/20/...t-for-several-screen-sizes-and-qualcomm-cpus/
* Ability to run on a "range" of display sizes
* Support for Qualcomm processors
* Bug fixes
* Better hardware acceleration
* Updates for Movie Studio, Movies, Music, and widgets
Hope the work Samsung is doing with TouchWiz UX doesn't delay us getting this 3.2 update. I could sure go for a nice big cup of "bug fixes" right about now. And some of that "better hardware acceleration" would taste good too.
i'd stick with vanilla for now, as honeycomb def still needs polishing. hardware acceleration is important, and i hope they improve text selection, copy and paste, and overall text typing, as i find those to be the most frustrating right now.
I bet you we'll either get it late or Samsung will throw touchwiz over top it. If they do i hope one of the devs can get all of that ugly UI junk off of it.
Or maybe 3.2 is the reason why Samsung didn't ship the tab with TouchWiz....
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Or maybe 3.2 is the reason why Samsung didn't ship the tab with TouchWiz....
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yeah so they can say to us: "You want 3.2? Well you'll have to update your Tab to TouchWiz"
th0r615 said:
yeah so they can say to us: "You want 3.2? Well you'll have to update your Tab to TouchWiz"
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You may be right, but they never promised you a stock android device either.
I'm taking the wait and see approach rather than seemingly everybody else's negative approach.
Google already said they are not releasing the source code of 3.x so what I am waiting on is 4.0 so that the CM team can bake up a nice rom. But until then I am really happy with how well mine is working. There has been some lag but only when like 10 apps are running.
Apparently in the middle east (launch mid july)- the tab will be launched with touch wiz instead of vanilla honeycomb - i'll still be picking it up - with hopes of flashing north american firmware on it to get vanilla honeycomb - also I was told touch wiz is almost final - should be coming for you folks by mid july and it(final version) is quite smooth.
I used a test version ( very laggy) and one other what appeared to be a rc version - (much smoother but not vanilla smooth)
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I just hope this tablet gets Ice Cream Sandwich.
samsung is notorious for their lack of updates
To beperfectly honest I bought the tab under the impression that it will be on 3.1 as long as I keep it lol
I wouldn't write them off, yet. Look what they've been doing on Twitter and how they're treating the outside development of their devices.
I mean, at I/O Samsung was one of the partners saying that they would update products up to 18 months from their release, so it would be a violation of a contract with Google if they don't update.
When I talked to a Samsung rep, they told me I didn't have to download TouchWiz if I didn't want it.....but I wouldn't get said bug fixes, Google updates without having TouchWiz.
Do you think that SAMSUNG will upgrade GS2 to ANDROID 4 when will be available in Q4 2011 ?
Yes. One of the things to come out of Google I/O this year was a commitment from the big manufacturers to support Android updates for a defined period of time (obviously, hardware dependent).
Ye i reckon so. Even if there are hardware requirements, the SGS2 will definately be up to scratch. I have heard the 4.0 will adjust to the hardware anyway so it shouldn't be a problem either way.
The official Google policy is that all phones will qualify for updates up to 18 months from launch date .Providing the hardware is compatible .Samsung have agreed to this .
jje
Android 4? Still haven't gotten the 2.3.4, and Android 4.0, and that in Q4 this year? Am I reading it right?
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Android 4? Still haven't gotten the 2.3.4, and Android 4.0, and that in Q4 this year? Am I reading it right?
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In case you are thinking "4.0 is too fast because we haven't gotten 3.0 yet", 3.0 is Honeycomb and a Tablet only release. 4.0 is Ice Cream Sandwich and is supposed to unify both Tablets and Smartphones.
Anyway, version numbers by themselves mean nothing since they are arbitrary values given by humans. For example, Firefox 4 came out not too long ago and we have 5.0 now.
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In case you are thinking "4.0 is too fast because we haven't gotten 3.0 yet", 3.0 is Honeycomb and a Tablet only release. 4.0 is Ice Cream Sandwich and is supposed to unify both Tablets and Smartphones
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Yea I know that. Just didn't know that there weren't any version in between 2.3.4 and 4!
Hoping to get it ASAP on my phone!
It is rumored to be a really great change!
And even if samsung don't, which they should, cm or someone else will!
I am sure the specs are upto par, that's one of the reasons why I chose this phone!
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Next version of Android will have onscreen keys and hardware keys will be unsupported, just like on Honecomb.
So even if Samsung updates SGS2, we'll be left with a useless hardware home key and screen space will be lost for software keys.
Phones that run the next version of Android will be designed for that, with no hardware keys and extra screen space for the soft keys. On older phones like SGS2, it'll just look silly.
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Next version of Android will have onscreen keys and hardware keys will be unsupported, just like on Honecomb.
So even if Samsung updates SGS2, we'll be left with a useless hardware home key and screen space will be lost for software keys.
Phones that run the next version of Android will be designed for that, with no hardware keys and extra screen space for the soft keys. On older phones like SGS2, it'll just look silly.
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/me reckons that should be easy enough to sort out... I'd bet that either
- existing phones get support for hard-keys
- Samsung codes their own support for the keys, in order to keep their customers happy.
THEY WILL. They wouldn't haveput 1GB of RAM in this phone, unless they wanted it to have a "shelf-life" of more than a year. It probably won't be fully supported (because 4.0 is rumoured to to be for 720p displays and whatnot) but it will definitely be supported.
Android isn't like iOS, where as soon as the next version comes out, the older ones are immediately made obsolete. It's much more versatile than that.
And although it will be built around no hardware keys...it can't be completely built without them taken into consideration! What happens to volume keys and the lock button? The three buttons almost every single (if not every single one) Android handset has...
It'll be a similar situation to the one at the moment. The SII is released, and the S1 is given Gingerbread because it's still very popular. The S2 is more so, so I rekon at the release of the S3, we'll also get Android 4.0
SO excited. It's what android needs to continue eating away at the stupid domination of iOS/Apple.
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/me reckons that should be easy enough to sort out... I'd bet that either
- existing phones get support for hard-keys
- Samsung codes their own support for the keys, in order to keep their customers happy.
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It's easy to put something in the kernel to support the hardware home key like you say, but what about the multitasking key in Honeycomb which'll likely be in the next version too? There's no key in SGS2 for that... That'll have to stay on the screen and take precious screen space, probably together with soft home and back keys... Not to mention the even for today low SGS2 screen resolution.. Next version of Android on 800x480? Forget it...
It'll probably work, but it'll be silly... You'll want to get a new phone that is designed specifically for that...
Not to mention the hardware acceleration features that'll be coming which current hardware likely doesn't support. Like, Honeycomb seems to only work on Tegra. I don't know if it'll run on current version of Exynos used in SGS2...
So not only will it look silly, it'll probably run slow too.. We'll all want to get a new phone for the new OS.. That's what these things are designed for, to make money magically disapper from our pockets and appear in their pockets...
Remap one of the hardware keys to the multitasking key.
And as far as slow, i would hope that a dual core 1.2ghz cortex A9 would deal with it! The gig of ram will help.
And as far as hardware acceleration, i would think that google will expand the support to more than just tegra, that's half the point.
Honeycomb is just a limited stopgap as gingerbread would be awful on tablets!
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We'll just have to wait and see. If it all relies on missing hardware buttons then maybe Android 4.0 won't be fully compatible with SII, but if that's not the case, i'm sure SII will be upgraded to Android 4.0. If it won't be fully functional then i wouldn't want it on my SII just for the purpose of bragging that i can run a crippled Android 4.0 on my device. I'd stay with Gingerbread or buy a native Android 4.0 device.
I wonder if it's possible to port Honeycomb onto SGS II...
I mean it does have the Specs to pull it off.
kinda off topic, but this is the best (and most useful) place to ask this.
What exactly OR IS rumoured/expected in this Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich update?
I know it's meant to be a
- Big one that integrates 2.3.4 and 3.0.
- Rumours of hardware acceleration?
What else that's "big" or what new features are expected to be in this 4.0 update?!!??!?!
Everything in this thread is here-say. Where are your google release documents proving on-screen keys? Let me guess, your cousin's, uncle, brother has a buddy who knows the janitor at google right?
No one here knows what 4.0 will entail. Unless you work for Android team and are leaking stuff out.
So please stop posting crap, unless it is factual. Oh wait I forgot its the internet, everything is true.
kotaro_14 said:
I wonder if it's possible to port Honeycomb onto SGS II...
I mean it does have the Specs to pull it off.
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Short answer is yes, our phone is way more than capable to run Honeycomb without any issues. I run it on my Nook Color (which's hardware is not even close at all to the SGS2) and it runs great.
Long answer is no, you won't be able to use it correctly since you would have to build and compile drivers yourself and then integrate them into HC (unless you find the drivers from a similar model, but good luck with that one).
On top of that, you won't want to do that since there's no phone application on HC (maybe on the 3G models, but there's not such a thing in the WiFi only models and neither on the HC SDK).
And yes, I'm sure we'll get ICS on our SGS2, it would not make sense at all not to get it on such a powerful phone.
All I can say is that if it won't be on SGS2 because of it rendering hardware buttons obsolete, then it basically won't be on ANY current phone.
As usual though, the rumour mills will be working overtime with pointless and unprovable statements like that. You'll have to wait and see.
And for what its worth, I definitely believe the SGS2 will get it (and possibly even the SGS1). Remember that no two android phones are ever the same in terms of OS anyway.
Edited to add: might not be Q4 but it will definitely get it.
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
I'd like to see iPhone OS (iPOS) stop ripping off android's features.
That was my troll of the day.
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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I know theres not point in speculating about Ice Cream Sandwich since were unsure of what it will bring to the table.
My question was WHAT would YOU like it to improve on or what features you'd like it to bring, you know, CHANGES....
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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****, that's a LONG way away, I hope for the love of god it's WORTH the wait.
For the amount of time it's taken it should come out perfect or near perfect at the very least...
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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It was from Samsung Italy if I remember right. But I would say mid-end January maximum.
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imo note is designed for ics. samsung was aiming to release it with ics in early 2012 but too much interest from the market made them release earlier. but google (and maybe samsung) wants nexus chrome to be the first ics phone on the market so they cant release it with ics. so i think gingerbread roms for note are just for waste time until the google and samsung decides nexus did fine. and as i believe samsung aimed ics for the note i think they are not spending much time on gingerbread roms for note. so when ics is realeased i am expecting everything to be improved.
Whilst ICS will undoubtedly bring all sorts of improvements to the Note, until such time that a decent ecosystem of Honeycomb/ICS apps is built up (and remember, there aren't a great deal of Honeycomb specific tablet apps either), the vast majority of apps are still targeting 2.x iterations (Gingerbread, Froyo etc) of Android, which means that 2.x apps are likely to be de rigueur for some time yet.
I'm as keen as the next guy to get ICS onto my Android devices (Note, GTab, Transformer etc), but without application support it really doesn't matter too much.
Enjoy the Note for what it is today, not what it may be tomorrow!
Regards,
Dave
I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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As far as I know (at least that's what I saw on Desire Android Development for ICS ROMs) that 'always visible' bar can be "disabled", at least the keys on it. Some more experienced user may correct me tho
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
ICS for Galaxy Note
I heard ICS for Note will come on 2nd quarter. Still waiting for the release.
Also Galaxy SIII is coming with ICS4. is there any major firmware difference in Note and SIII? Why we cant use the same for Note and release the official release?
And I thought that we already have a sticky for these kind of discussions!!
ICS will be released soon and it will give few new functionality to the note..
some are as following:-
1 it will upgrade the proc by 9 cores (Intel Hardcore neon x9)
2 it will search for appropriate forums for you and automatically post in the right forums
SUCH AS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490986
Please post all ICS speculation info in the above mentioned thread !!
Meanwhile
Calling the dark forces : ORIGINAL_GANJAMAN where art thou???????
Was the ICS update for the S2 a wipe upgrade?
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kanej2006 said:
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
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Samsung never announces release dates in advance. We didn't get a real advance release date for S2, we won't have it for this device.
We don't know what to expect... Right now all leaks have Superbrick kernels, I suspect that's one of the things slowing down ICS for every device but the S2. Samsung tried to add some performance tweaks and FAILED MISERABLY and they're trying to figure out what the **** they broke now.
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The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
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Nope - they're an utter waste of screen space on devices with hardware keys.
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This thread was missed on the clean up, before the ICS Sticky thread was open.
I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Given that hardly any applications are available specifically for ICS yet, yet alone an unavailable future version, I personally don't see this as an issue.
Regards,
Dave
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I probably won't. I actually like the mobile OS on my mobile phone, regardless of the screen resolution and size.
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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Why would google release a tablet OS after merging both lines rather successfully? And I do use my Note with ICS tablet mode as daily driver.
Also, we'll probably see Jelly Bean phones come out after a while, ICS was previewed in May 2011 but was released in November.
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Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I was looking forward to use it that way ever since I bought the note. Then I finally had the chance to try imilka's aosp ics in tablet mode. It was like a dream come true at first but then I noticed letters look so small making it unpractical as a daily driver. My new dream is to be able to use the phone as it is in high resolution w/ big letters but apps to be opened in tablet resolution by choice.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
Truth be told, we don't know that yet. Let google first announce it then we can speculate if it'll come or not.
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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ICS was made to bridge the gap between tablet and phone...there is no way they will split the two again.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
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But where is the logic? Google makes Honeycomb, and it fails big time (let's be honest guys, it did) so they make ICS which will unify Android again and it will run on both phones and tablets. A part of the fragmentation is gone.
But not for long..
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Sounds perfectly logical to me.
As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused, although it is possible to install it, its not going to have the comms requirements to be able to use the note as anything else but a tablet.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused
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First of all, yes, ICS is just as much an update to HC. There is nothing phone-specific about it and as should be fairly obvious, there's plenty of tablet available with ICS nowadays. Secondly, no, Google went to great lengths to unify both the tablet version of Android and the phone version of it, they won't start breaking the unification again.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come
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As said, Google shot itself in the foot by separating phone and tablet versions of Android. ICS was the first step in unifying them. The plan has always been to do a new major version once a year and obviously ICS was last-year.
, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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Install ICS on your tablet then. There is absolutely nothing stopping you.
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Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os".
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No, they don't. That's unsubstantiated fanboy-rumour. There is no way of dual-booting Windows 8 and another OS unless Microsoft specifically allows it for several reasons: Windows 8 requires the system to have SecureBoot enabled and not disableable and that Microsoft will not sell the ARM-version of Windows 8 to anyone else than official Microsoft-partners.
Go ahead and google a bit, read about SecureBoot and you'll see already why that is just a rumour.
JellyBean will possibly have dual-boot, yes, but it won't support Win8; it'll be for booting between Android and ChromeOS, and possibly Linux.
Honeycomb was a band-aid release to give manufacturers an OS that ran semi-decently on tablets as the existing 2.x releases wouldn't scale properly and were completely unsuitable (didn't stop some manufacturers using it though, e.g. the original Galaxy Tab).
There's some info as well as the usual assortment of blind speculation in this article: http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...-things-we-want-to-see-in-android-5-0-1036013
Also info from a press conference regarding how ICS will unify the tablet & phone UI's: http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/01/nvi...ice-cream-sandwich-to-unify-android-platform/
Unless Google would like to commit OS-suicide, there is no waythey would release a separate version for "larger" devices at this stage. The "fragmentation" issue is bad enough as it is without them back pedalling, there will only be one combined Android OS for all devices from ICS onwards.
Regardless though, odds of the Note getting Jellybean via an official release is basically nil. I for one won't care, by the time it'd be likely to actually be available I'll probably have a newer device anyway.
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
RogerPodacter said:
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
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Certainly hope so my friend, it is good news indeed if they are concentrating on one solid sytem for all devices, that would be awesome, although, i wont Knock Honeycomb and ive never updated from it because like so many others i need stability and have feared venturing into the unknown abyss so far, honeycomb is great software and works well enough so im not too worried, once ics official is released then i will have a look at it.
But yer thanks for all the feedback guys, thats great to hear that Jellybean is going to be multisystem and with the info youve provided then yes id have to agree with you all that it probably is going to be multiplatform, which is what id initially hoped it would be, great stuff.
Any speculation on month of release, of course its difficult to guess bearing in mind ICS seems to have been around for quite a while now, but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
graemeg said:
but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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The release of Jelly Bean is in no way or form connected to when phone manufacturers ship ICS. ICS was already shown back in May in 2011, so that's almost a year ago now. Also, Jelly Bean is not as much of changing the fundamentals of Android as an OS as ICS was, it's more about honing the little things, smoothing the corners and putting the dressing on top like e.g. voice control.
That said, I assume JB will be released during Q3, not Q2. It'll likely be previewed during Q2, though, and that's when Google will announce the up-and-coming features and fixes.
When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
poope said:
When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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Android never released versions A and B, those names are lost... As far as the public is concerned, it started with :
Cupcake
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice Cream Sandwhich
Jelly Bean
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You missed your chance with C... marshmallow still holds a chance!
ICS was previewed in May 2011 and launched in October 2011. Over 5 months later ICS can only be found in 2-3% of current Android devices.
I have to wonder how putting on even more pressure on developers and raising the frustration of the users by launching version 5.0 while the huge majority is still waiting for the v4 update could help your market share.
This is a good read regarding this issue : http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Jelly-Bean-Android-Gingerbread-Ice-Cream-Sandwich,news-14545.html