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[TMOUS HD2] Some questions from a second-time tinkerer

I've never anything other than WM (stock) and WP7 on this phone so far. I may decide to go to Android (or back to WM) considering WP7's ****ty battery life. There's a LOT of information available on the topic I am sure, but search didn't help me much. Can someone please tell me:
whether Android 2.2/2.3 is fully functional (Marketplace and all) on HD2, and which is the best Android ROM for my phone?
The disadvantages of using Android on HD2?
which is the best non-stock WM 6.5.5 ROM for my phone?

sclip said:
I've never anything other than WM (stock) and WP7 on this phone so far. I may decide to go to Android (or back to WM) considering WP7's ****ty battery life. There's a LOT of information available on the topic I am sure, but search didn't help me much. Can someone please tell me:
whether Android 2.2/2.3 is fully functional (Marketplace and all) on HD2, and which is the best Android ROM for my phone?
The disadvantages of using Android on HD2?
which is the best non-stock WM 6.5.5 ROM for my phone?
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1- dunno, don't use android. but ask around in the android section. or give it a whirl and see. i used sd android and things were working fine.
2- this is personal. you need to try it out, really.
3- again, this is personal. what i like, you may not. but for what it is worth, energy's roms are fantastic. but seriously, just go look at a few and give them a whirl.
overall, the questions you are asking are user-specific; what works for me may not work for you. but good luck and have fun tinkering!

Are you going to run it from the SD card our from nand?
SD card - my suggestion for stock Froyo is tytungs ROM or darkstone super RAM from sd
Nand - tytung stock froyo or gingerbread, mdj desire sense or stock froyo, HD I would go with cmylxgo topia series if you're in the states.
I switch between cmylxgo for his Topia HD build and TyTung stock Gingerbread on Nand
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sclip said:
I've never anything other than WM (stock) and WP7 on this phone so far. I may decide to go to Android (or back to WM) considering WP7's ****ty battery life. There's a LOT of information available on the topic I am sure, but search didn't help me much. Can someone please tell me:
whether Android 2.2/2.3 is fully functional (Marketplace and all) on HD2, and which is the best Android ROM for my phone?
The disadvantages of using Android on HD2?
which is the best non-stock WM 6.5.5 ROM for my phone?
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Android (nand) is fully functional. I am surprised how good it is.
As for the rest of your questions, I have to say the same thing as the formwe user: it is all taste
Sent from my HD2 running Gingerbread

What OS are you using as your daily driver?

Hi,
I was just curious about which OS is used the most, and which OS is used the least. Please submit your vote, so we can get an as accurate as possible picture. By Daily driver I mean which OS you're using right now to text, call and just use for your daily life.
A short list of the options and their definitions:
Stock Windows Mobile 6.5.x - You're using the stock rom that came with the device, or an official update.
Custom Windows Mobile 6.5.x - You've flashed a custom rom like Energy rom. Chances are you're changing the rom on a regular basis.
Android SD/RAM - You're running Android old school from your SD card, or you're using a RAM build.
Android NAND - You're using the latest and greatest NAND (Internal memory) build(s) out there!
Windows Phone 7 - You're loyal to Microsoft and decided to flash Redmond's latest and greatest.
Ubuntu - You decided a mobile OS just wasn't good enough, and you gave your HD2 a full desktop/netbook experience! Unlikely you're using this on a daily basis though
MeeGo - You're using MeeGo. I'm not sure if it's possible, as it hasn't been released yet, but it's worth a shot.
- If you're dualbooting, just choose the main one.
I'm curious what the results might be. I'm currently using Windows Phone 7 for texting, calling, some gaming and just for the general experience. I've also partitioned half of my SD card for Darkstone SuperRAM, just for Angry Birds and Scooter Hero. I think most people are using a Android NAND build by now though.

Android SD/RAM - Utterly smooth, I haven't changed builds for five weeks because I have no problems with this. First time my phone has been flawless in the 24 months I've had it (I'm including the Blackstone days! ).
I am very keen to go NAND. I'm just waiting until the ROMs have had a month under their belt so they are watertight. I would normally be flashing like mad, but I'm just too happy with my phone for now.
Not too interested in WP7. If it was as easy as switching memory cards, I'd probably give it a week's fair chance. But I think Android's got my heart!
ROM: Evo's Black&Blue remix

PAST Windows Phone 7 - Was using it but after 2 days I decided to change back to Winmo becouse it had too much limitations to my country and I didn't want to use an other Windows Live profile, but it is a great development. When it is better and available in my county I'm definitely going to use it. I have an key already . Try the chat-support if you're afraid to call
STOCK Windows Mobile 6.5 - Back to stock, it is OK but not perfect. See my Windows Phone 7 story why Windows Mobile. Why the stock version? I want to keep my warranty and Android SD builds are good enough for me.
Android SD/RAM - You don't need NAND when you use RAM builds. It's very fast. Android is good and I like it, when i'm going to put Windows Phone 7 next time on my phone I definitely putting Android on SD as well on my phone. The best combination ever.
Sorry for poor english

Looks like it's between android NAND and WP7 now

I used WP7 but am going back to Android right now... WP7 needs more work from Redmond before I might give it another chance.

Been off-line a couple of months.. Carnt believe all the new developments..
Iv just been running the Core Series ever since i got my Leo.
Sergio76 from the Core Cell Team has been working hard on their first CoreDroid HD NAND version. All i can say is your all in for a big surprise!!
Check my sig if you not familiar with Sergio76's work.

I used winmo stock for the first 3 weeks i had my Leo. Just while i got my head around the differences from my diamond. Then flashed an Energy 6.5.x build and not looked back (that was almost a year ago). I've used a couple of android SD builds and i came to the conclusion that it wasn't for me. It feels like an open source iphone for teenagers. Hell, i've used my sisters desire with the stock rom and the feel of the whole phone was lacking compared to my HD2.
This poll is a good idea there is just one problem with it. Android users are very vocal about their love of the operating system. Winmo users tend to be much less so. I think this has a lot to do with the user bases age range (ie alot older than most android users). I also think it has something to do with the original demographic Windows CE was aimed at - IT professionals. Winmo has grown from this and taken people like me with it. I find the integration and compatibility with the windows based networks i run to be the best feature of windows mobile and i'm yet to achieve that using android (and not for want of trying either).
I will try out WP7 but i'm waiting for the february update first. Copy/paste is a must for me.

using android nand atm. so far its awesome! battery life is great, runs really smooth and its pweety :3
i havent tested wp7 yet, although i really want to. Maybe when i have the time next week...

I'm still using nandroid at the moment although already bought a new sdcard to use for WP7. The reason I haven't moved to wp7 yet because I'm so questioning why there is no support from Cotulla, DFT and other Developers (they've disappeared since wp7 on hd2 issued) !!! Probably they're working hard for a better WP7 version, or they can't reach any more progress for WP7 on HD2, or some other reasons. Who knows???
BTW, my nandroid from RaiderX303 is really good now, so I'll wait to see what will happen to wp7 so that i can decide move to wp7 or not!

You guys just try out webbrowsing on wp7

I tried WP7 on my HD2 but could not get past the Live Services verification step. I've given up for now but I absolutely loved the interface and the web browsing. It made me seriously think about getting an HD7 as my next phone until I realised nothing is as open and moddable as Android. I've switched back to Android 2.3 on NAND.
Edit: Finally SUCCESS!!! I got the verification. Going to try WP7 for a while. A seriosuly annoying thing is that some apps that are free on Android Market are charged on WP7 Marketplace.

Last 2 days, I've used WP7 inc. live services and Android on SD Duel Boot. The best thing about WP7 is the smoothness of the OS although the multitouch sucks compared to Android.
I'm most likely gonna go back to Nandroid and use SD to test other Android builds.
So basically a duel boot android/android.

WP7 for me, well at least for the last four days...here is why
GPS...Instant no waiting at all for a fix, using Endomondo for running, the route is spot on, best i have ever seen on any of my other phones, or even this HD2 running WM to Android.
SOUND...the sound quality, through headphones on WP7 is second none, why on eaarth its so much better than Android I really don't know and the ZUNE player and online stuff is simply fantastic
OFFICE...miles better than WM office, Android office apps just don't cut it
GAMES...try Harvest wow can't believe my HD2 is actually running this. loads more to try, also loving AlphaJAX bit like scrabble and wordsmith on Android only slicker.
INTERFACE...slick super fast, makes Android and WM on the HD2 seem antiquated
SOCIAL...the people update is simply perfect, facebook and twitter apps never look so good, loving the swiping about
KEYBOARD...never used such a easy to use keyboard, not sure why its so much better, I can type faster then on swipe, weird
Camera and Video... well this is hands down miles better than anything else for the HD2, did some filming at the weekend and the clarity is amazing
CALENDAR...quick easy and perfect for me to add and adjust my busy schedule
PHONE and SMS...sound quality and signal just work
Ok there are few teething problems but hopefully between XDA and Microsoft these will improve, ie...cut/paste, flash would be nice, but uses to much of my 3g allowance, Multitasking not that it needs it, it runs so fast, but perhaps being able to run my online radio with the brilliant rescoradio and do other things would be nice, otherwise you can have music running all the time and do other things, lets see what happens...

BTW you should cross MeeGo, 'cause it's not been released yet, not even a beta.
I'm using an Activated WP7

Lately I've been running MDJ Gingerbread CM7 flashed from recovery. I like being able to quickly create a clockworkmod backup, swap sd card, then flash WP7 or ubuntu just to mess around with. Afterward I can just flash back clockworkmod, stick my other sd card back in, restore and go right back to gingerbread.

Looking at the poll results thusfar, it seems that the HD2 has to be called an android phone xD

well, my hd2 runs on custom wm. have been jumping between energy and dutty rom. I must say both are equally good and rock stable. But i decided to stay with dutty because his comes with chinese input. tried andriod SD but it's eating battery as if it's free! so decided to stay with wm.

@OP
You forgot to include on the poll Windows 98 and 95 both running on Leo too

orb3000 said:
@OP
You forgot to include on the poll Windows 98 and 95 both running on Leo too
Perhaps a Senior Mod can add this ones
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Actually, knowingly didn't add them as they don't support phone functions so they can't be used as a daily driver.

Guys using Stock Windows Mobile 6.5.x on device like HD2 don't deserve to be on XDA

Coming from Android.. how stable is it on HD2?

I have a Motorola Milestone and am intersted in an HD2. A few people around my area are selling them that run android but I want to know if android is running smoothly and is stable on this device. Is it ok for everyday use without messing around with it very much?
It would be to replace my milestone, which is an android device, so I'm wondering if the HD2 runs as smoothly as an actual android device
Thanks!

With NAND recently released for the HD2, I'd say very stable.
If I were you though, I'd rather buy a stock HD2 rather than an "android ready" HD2 just because of personal preference of builds. Buy a HD2, read the forums and look for a build that'll suit you. For me, iamgpc's gingerbread rom is good enough for me and I'm waiting for a official release of WP7

Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)

bazinga said:
I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
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WP& Rom is ALREADY offically released. Its simply that it hasnt been directly released on XDA for various reasons.
Just because it hasnt been posted by cotulla doesnt mean it hasnt "officially" been released.

Wond3r said:
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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Android works Great on the HD2 If you can get one cheep (under $200) get it and yes you can change android any time + if the HD2 already has Android it most likely has already had HSPL 2.08 and the Radio updated so thats less for you to have to learn how to do

Hi :-D
I have a motorola milestone (and develop for it ) and now a brand new HD2, and must say, WM lasted for about 35 seconds LOL
Now I have NAND desreHD build, and (without overclock but with memory optimization and tweaks) is butterly smooth!
Like and maybe more than Milestone...
With a senseless rom is far superior to a milestone (stockspeed) and like same smoothnes with [email protected] with MUCH more memory

As the others said, it is very stable now with NAND, and apparently now you can dual boot WP7 and Android off you SD cards. There are just plain SO MANY OPTIONS on this phone, so you will make a good move going. Plus you can hop back and forth to sense/non-sense with relative ease, especially with clockwork...

I bought my HD2 when launched. I now have NAND Android on it. I'm happy with it... BUT
If you want to buy and HD2 to put Android... why don't you buy a Desire HD instead? I was not able to compare both of them but I imagine that if hardware and OS are developped to go together it has to be better (faster boot, all working, stability) and after a while you will find custom Android ROM for it (maybe yet available).
If I have to buy something today, between HD2, HD7 and DHD... I will go for DHD. The hardware seems the best (8Mp camera, newer proc, more NAND).
Of course, all this depend at what price you'll find each device.

personally i will choose the HD2 because you can run android on it..HD2..HD7..evo there are the same phones..just one has a 8MP camera and a front camera but that is about it..I used to own a touch pro 2 unlocked version and I barely used the front camera..it was useless for me. So HD2 FTW.
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DHD has a front camera? I didn't even know this...
I just read that the DHD boot in 2sec; Is this real? If it is it could be very nice for me, I would like to know also if the A-GPS is working fine (I'm mean that data is written in the chip itself same as WM6 does on HD2).
But anyway, all this is subjective. I had a HD2 and I'm very happy with it. It's a really good device.
And second anyway... all this was not the initial subject... sorry for thread pollution
Yes, Android is stable on HD2 and it can be the main OS.

[Q] What OS is everyone using?

I have been watching the WP7 threads for a little while now and have noticed that there doesn't seen to be much activity in there.
I was wondering if WP7 isn't very popular among the community. For me, I love it. I think M$ has done pretty good with this one, and DFT have done even better, Thanks guys. Also thanks to the chefs too.
So I guess I am wondering what OS the community are using.
Android
WP7
Win Mob 6.5
Meego

I'm using the android .
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i use both windows mobile 6.5 and Android.
I'd probably use the Android way more if i could figure out a couple things i'm still cofused about.

android all the way!

Dont create similar threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919218

ANDROID 2.3.3 the BEST OS i am using
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919218
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ANDROID 2.3.3 the BEST OS i am using it on my HD2

WP7 mainly, occasionally dip into Android on my SD, starting to think I may just use WP7 when the nodo comes out, beginning to get thoughts why do I need my hd2 when all I use is WP7.
Android is just to messy, not a single keyboard on android comes anywhere close to the Standard WP7 one, Android is becoming fragmented with now the tegra seperate apps, the seperate Expedia play ones also, this is where iPhone and WP7 will prevail. I know its difficult for this to not frament over time with new technologies but to have so many different speced Android devices available at the same time, that run different games and compatibility in my mind is a mess and I am starting to dislike where Android is heading.
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I#m using Win 6.5.5

Android Ginger 2.3.2

Thanks for the replies so far guys.
I can't understand why WP7 isn't as popular as WinMob 6.5 according to the poll at this moment in time. I have been using it as my full time OS since getting my phone back from repair 2 weeks ago. I only get the occasional lockup (albeit for a second or too) and the odd app might not work (i.e. Messenger) but overall, I am very happy with it. Considering too, the amount of bugs that had to be ironed out when Android was ported, it's bloody marvellous.

How stable is android on the hd2?

Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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rogerski1 said:
Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !

backlashsid said:
both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone

I've had my HD2 for 2 years now, and I knew nothing about rooting etc. It took me a whole day to learn, but now I can easily switch ROMs within half an hour max.
I've tried multiple Android ROMs (SD and NAND) and a WM7 ROM before the mango update, and everything works incredibly smooth and fully-functional. It's actually even better than the original Windows Mobile OS, so I'd highly recommend giving it a fiddle! Trust me, you can't really go wrong if you follow all the right advice (stickies have all the good stuff!)
Once you get going I think you'll really love the variety of builds and find one that you're comfortable with. Enjoy!

Awesome! Thanks guys, sounds like its a go then! I may even be wanting one for myself!
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Well it all depends on which rom/settings/tweaks you use but in general Android is more stable and runs better on the HD2 then most native Android devices!
cmacia06 said:
I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
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You dont "root" the HD2.

I'm using CM7_Tweaked-2.0.0-LEO and radio 2.15.50.14. I would not describe it as very stable and I cannot get the radio to do 3g or H. Perhaps my expectationa are too high and I'm sure it is more stable on Android than Windows, but I am not happy with it.

I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM

Android on the hd2 in my opinion runs better on this device than some devices that are launched with it.
Load up NexusHD 2.3.7 and you or your wife won't look back.
Sent from my HD2

spitzer.fr said:
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
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Well you are not going to find out unless you try them. Also "2.3.5. NAND" means absolutely nothing as that isnt rom specific, that is just a version number of Android OS.
In my experience the most stable version without needing tweaks/extra setup etc is the NexusHD2 roms by tytung (Froyo) and (Gingerbread) and they are as close to stock Android as you will get.
I am addicted to trying new roms though and have started to really like the MIUI based roms but am currently testing the new NexusHD2 ICS base.

HD2 forever ...
I have an EU and a from about 2 month a TMOUS:
- EU with MIUI 2.37a stable ... hard daily use, it rocks!!!
- TMOUS to try other roms with sense (big internal space required, i hate app2sd ) and tried 3 different version of ICS for now without any problem!!!
I have thought about changing them for a real android but ... i love modding ... so no chance for other model for now
A quick reply? Buy a TMOUS
Cheers

Roms
Since you have tried many different roms, have you found a sense 3.5 that can play 720p video? Mwakious 3.5 does not

HD2 was build for Android, delivering it with WM6.5 was a joke!