Is this legit?? ICS Source release? - Wildfire General

https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/c0e01b4619a1455a?pli=1
http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html

The second one is android.com so yes.

They are both from google's legitimate servers, so I would say it is no gimmick!
Wonder what devs can do with this, next couple of months will be exciting
Wonder what the CyanogenMod devs are going to say/have said about this source

VigiDroid said:
They are both from google's legitimate servers, so I would say it is no gimmick!
Wonder what devs can do with this, next couple of months will be exciting
Wonder what the CyanogenMod devs are going to say/have said about this source
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Lol..... yeh I figured that after following the group for an hour, then all my emails/tweets started popping up saying the same thing!
Literally saw it a few minutes after it was posted and spent the next half hour searching for something to back it up. Fingers crossed cm can come up with something, its about time we had a real new aosp rom.
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VigiDroid said:
Wonder what the CyanogenMod devs are going to say/have said about this source
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2 months. :/
http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/136313427248431104
(That's for CM, I don't know if anyone attempts to experiment with the source specifically for the Wildfire till then. I hope arco does)

Ok,now don't jump down my throat I'm just asking about something I don't totally understand lol.......
I'm only semi excited about ICS on wildfire because I don't understand fully so can someone enlighten me.
ICS source has been released and its been quoted many times by many members that this will not run on wildfire due to its processor. If however someone(s) manage this task then,
1.what does ICS bring to us that we don't have already?
2. Will in all honesty this not be a resource/system and battery hungry eater due to it never ideally supposedly to be for wildfire?
I'm at work and don't have the availabilities/time to search these queeries.regards as always slymobi.
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slymobi said:
Ok,now don't jump down my throat I'm just asking about something I don't totally understand lol.......
I'm only semi excited about ICS on wildfire because I don't understand fully so can someone enlighten me.
ICS source has been released and its been quoted many times by many members that this will not run on wildfire due to its processor. If however someone(s) manage this task then,
1.what does ICS bring to us that we don't have already?
2. Will in all honesty this not be a resource/system and battery hungry eater due to it never ideally supposedly to be for wildfire?
I'm at work and don't have the availabilities/time to search these queeries.regards as always slymobi.
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1: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html#UserFeatures
2: It'll be the devs who will answer that I guess. I honestly have no idea about it.

Thanks 3, i will read up later when home.
home and 1st impressions are YES PLEASE LOL.
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Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One

I am not sure if this is of value or if any of you are not already aware, but decided to post this in case it is of any worth to any of you who are working on developing Froyo Rom to work on a Sprint HTC Hero.
ZDnet story with included download link of Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-releases-new-version-of-froyo/2213?tag=mantle_skin;content
distantneighbor said:
I am not sure if this is of value or if any of you are not already aware, but decided to post this in case it is of any worth to any of you who are working on developing Froyo Rom to work on a Sprint HTC Hero.
ZDnet story with included download link of Google's new version of Froyo for the Nexus One : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-releases-new-version-of-froyo/2213?tag=mantle_skin;content
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We still need source code to get Mic and other things working.
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
HeroMeng said:
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
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Google is becoming very HTC-y about source. Give it a week or 2. FroYo has been out for N1 for a couple of weeks now. This is an updated FroYo.
Still waiting on the source tree to drop sadly.
Kcarpenter said:
Google is becoming very HTC-y about source. Give it a week or 2. FroYo has been out for N1 for a couple of weeks now. This is an updated FroYo.
Still waiting on the source tree to drop sadly.
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Froyo isn't out yet. Google has not released it yet. There were some review units that Google sent Froyo to for review purposes only, but it has not been released to the public. The only reason the public has it is because of these leaks.
I expect Google to have it up as soon as it publicly drops. Now HTC on the other hand...
HeroMeng said:
Under their own laws (found in Settings>About Phone>Legal Information), when Google officially releases Froyo for ANY device (Nexus, Droid, G1) they must release the source code. So, once they release a device version of Froyo, they must release Froyo on source.android.com.
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This is incorrect. The Linux Kernel source is licensed under the GPL which means when you release something that uses it you must release any modifications you made to it. Android however is not licensed under such a license. It is under the Apache license which means any changes that Google, HTC, Cyanogen or any other entity makes to it do not have to be released. Now, Google changing the kernel source, yes that does mean they need to release that. But just that. They will release it all in time though. Should be this week or next week I would assume.
Lol, um froyo was released already
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Lol, um froyo was released already
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Uhh... Not the source code. If the source was released it would show up here.
aarronbittick said:
Lol, um froyo was released already
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No, it has NOT been released: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/google-on-android-2-2-feverishly-working-to-get-a-final-versio/
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Not all devs have left. Damage, fresh, and toast were not the only ones who can do dev work and if u believe they were then go get an evo and dump ur perfectly working hero on someone not as ignorant as u r
Powers16 said:
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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I have no doubt the Evo will get it first. But we still have devs on the board.
Darch has already commited to building an AOSP FrpYp, and there is enough documentation laying around here for anyone with some Linux-Fu to be able to take out our Hero Kernel and drop it into any system dump or boot image and at least make it bootable. Not necessarily 100% functional, but bootable.
I have no doubt that within a few days of Google dropping FroYo source that we have a functional version.
Also, I at this point in time don't care about HTC Sense UI. AOSP is awesome with ADW lancuher. That thing only keeps getting better. He has a build with gesture controls built in coming soon.
The ONLY thing I don't like about AOSP is Exchange emails with more than 1 attachment won't show me the email text...but I think this is just a user error.
For now I have been forwarding the email to my Gmail address to read it.
Papa Smurf151 said:
Not all devs have left. Damage, fresh, and toast were not the only ones who can do dev work and if u believe they were then go get an evo and dump ur perfectly working hero on someone not as ignorant as u r
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There is nothing ignorant about my comment. It's the way I feel about the situation and not You or anyone else will change that... before you go throwing stones make sure you understand that people will have different views than you.
/ignorance
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Seriously, dude, when I read this all I heard was, "Jimmy got a cool new phone and I don't have a cool new phone, but Jimmy used to make my phone cool and now Jimmy won't make my phone cool for me anymore. Someone call the WHAMBULANCE!" I hate to single you out because these threads are rife with whining anymore, but this is a prime example.
There is nothing ignorant about my comment.
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Yes there is. Start developing. Don't whine that someone else isn't doing the work anymore. Step up to the plate and do the work. I'm sick of people whining about developers moving to different phones and leaving users behind. They're not "leaving users behind", they're moving forward and they owe you nothing. This isn't the Marines. This is technology and business.
Complaining about them upgrading and not working on the ROM for your phone is like complaining that they didn't write ROMs for the G1 or Nexus 1. Should they be forced to buy those phones to develop on? Absolutely not.
Besides those points, your post still contains some ignorance. Damage stated he's not giving up development for the Hero, he's busy getting married this week. TrevE said he's backing away from the Evo for a bit to focus on the Hero. Darch is definitely still around, despite people trying to get him to move to the Evo. Where's the problem?
There's no point in arguing with both of you.for some reason when someone says the word dev you guys start creaming your pants and when the least bit of negative is said you guys go to McDonald's and order a whamburger and French cries. This is the internet morons and both of you need to get off the dev's nut sack and understand that I have an opinion and I'm gonna use it. Now both of you can go hold each other now.
/troll
There's no point in arguing with both of you.for some reason when someone says the word dev you guys start creaming your pants and when the least bit of negative is said you guys go to McDonald's and order a whamburger and French cries. This is the internet morons and both of you need to get off the dev's nut sack and understand that I have an opinion and I'm gonna use it. Now both of you can go hold each other now.
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This Guy equals moron and leecher. Will never dev anything on his own and will just cry cause a few devs left the hero site. Boo hoo cry me a river. U r welcome to ur opinion and can voice it all u like. I'm just informing u that ur opinion is wrong and ignorant.
That's is all and u may go now
Powers16 said:
Does it even matter anymore? The devs have left the hero, it will be months before we see a working Rom and I bet the evo gets it before we do .
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Fresh and Darch are still dev'ing for the Hero as far as I know (I'm running Fresh Hero 2.3 beta which is only a couple of days old). I'm not sure about the rest but as long as those two are going strong there are good things to come.
FroYo just dropped into AOSP!
Kcarpenter said:
FroYo just dropped into AOSP!
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Really??? LINK!!! We need to get this to Darch ASAP!!!
mrinehart93 said:
Really??? LINK!!! We need to get this to Darch ASAP!!!
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Already tweeted at him.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?o=age

Waiting for Cm7 and miui

Thanks for all the devs helping us with all the 2.3.4 rom based off the official rom. It runs well. However, I am waiting for to dev who can either bring cm7 or mini to our rom. Right now, there is just too much moto blur bloat on the official rom.
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As far as i know, CM team is trying to make a CM port to our phone. But as you may know, the hardware in our phone is different than the versions they have now for other phones (for example, the fingerprint scanner). They doesnt have any 2.3.4 motorola source code to have as a base neither....
They will never come
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Why don't u think they'll come curious to hear ur opinion
lesonal said:
They will never come
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Why do you think so?
spx2000 said:
Thanks for all the devs helping us with all the 2.3.4 rom based off the official rom. It runs well. However, I am waiting for to dev who can either bring cm7 or mini to our rom. Right now, there is just too much moto blur bloat on the official rom.
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
BravoMotorola said:
Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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Learn to read, no one asked where it was OP simply stated that they are waiting for it as opposed to just messing with the current roms
BravoMotorola said:
Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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I totally agree we shouldn't take the devs for granted (especially those of us just savvy enough to use the roms, but not enough to help make 'em at all).
However, last year Android was at like 16% market share, and CM could support basically every unlocked phone all the way back to the G1. This year Android market share is at almost 40% with phone dropping at an accelerating rate. I'm sure it helps them decide which phones to support to know where there is interest.
I hope it doesn't hurt anyone at CM's feelings for me to say that I love CM, and have missed it ever since I left my G1 for the Atrix, and I too will be holding off on flashing roms for now in hopes that CM will add us to the supported device list.
Well said
Incognitum said:
I totally agree we shouldn't take the devs for granted (especially those of us just savvy enough to use the roms, but not enough to help make 'em at all).
However, last year Android was at like 16% market share, and CM could support basically every unlocked phone all the way back to the G1. This year Android market share is at almost 40% with phone dropping at an accelerating rate. I'm sure it helps them decide which phones to support to know where there is interest.
I hope it doesn't hurt anyone at CM's feelings for me to say that I love CM, and have missed it ever since I left my G1 for the Atrix, and I too will be holding off on flashing roms for now in hopes that CM will add us to the supported device list.
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Where can we get atleast 100% confirmation that cm7 is in fact being worked on. No he said she said stuff. Let's see an actual post from one of the devs please. I think that would make people feel A LOT better
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Anthonok said:
Where can we get atleast 100% confirmation that cm7 is in fact being worked on. No he said she said stuff. Let's see an actual post from one of the devs please. I think that would make people feel A LOT better
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I would like to see this too, assuming such confirmation even exists...I've been watching aliasxerog's twitter periodically, as it seemed he and a team of a few other guys were given the unlocked Atrix to work on? As recently as like last week or something, he had made comments about working on a kernel.
However recently it seems he has been looking for a DX2...nothing like ditching work on one phone partway through! Hopefully this isn't really the case lol, and he is still at work on CM7 or something!
if you search for CM7 on the Atrix foruns you'll see a post with status updates on the port. No "he said she said".
Viamonte said:
if you search for CM7 on the Atrix foruns you'll see a post with status updates on the port. No "he said she said".
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Got a link to that post??
i definite don't take devs for granted. While I don't have the the technical chops to port myself, I donated to several projects .
While the current official rom works very well, I believe atrix can be even better without all the extra bloat . I think we have good chance to see miui official support for our phone because the phone is being heavily advertised by the china cellular providers.
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Come on guys, if you don't pro-actively "wait for it", things will be much easier for you
It will take time for the first build to emerge, and even more times before all the bugs get fixed. Just subscribe to aliaxesrog twitter and wait for your day.
To be clear, you don't have to be a existing CM7 Dev to start print CM7, it's open source.
When a developer gets a port working for a specific device, if they can merge the unique code for that device back into CM7 mainline, it becomes an officially supported device and that developer becomes a recognized maintainer.
We have a few people working on CM7, AliasXerog, SamCripp and I'm reaching out to others, but as no Moto devices have been as unlocked as the Atrix since the OG Droid people are starting from scratch.
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Rewards (READ: BIG QTD OF DOLLARS) was offered and NO CM team said anything about ETA or if its being worked on, so i gona hate cm team and i think they will not support our phone, sad but true.
I really want to donate, and i didn't have more a atrix (mine got dropped on toilet), but just when community got somethig good and working.
SkzBR said:
Rewards (READ: BIG QTD OF DOLLARS) was offered and NO CM team said anything about ETA or if its being worked on, so i gona hate cm team and i think they will not support our phone, sad but true.
I really want to donate, and i didn't have more a atrix (mine got dropped on toilet), but just when community got somethig good and working.
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When it gets ported, they will presumably start supporting. Have faith!
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The Cyanogen devs have said, repeatedly, that what devices they develop CyanogenMod for is dependent on what devices they personally have or have access to. That being said, there is a thread on the Unofficial Ports section of their forum, but it's almost exclusively repetitions of "the bootloader is unlocked, can we get a port now please?"
For the more impatient members of the angry mob, it's worth remembering that the bootloader hasn't been unlocked for all that long.
Guys read this
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14006-motorola-atrix-4g/

Ice Cream Sandwich AOSP Source Released!

http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f?pli=1
!!!!!
also, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_fiepb2Mc
Can't wait to see this on my G2!
I hope someone with enough know how gets a hold of this and brings ics to our phone in a few weeks!
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Can't wait for CM9 !
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its not really there yet guys, be patient:
The push process:
-push to master, update the master manifest.
-push to the development branch, create the matching manifest.
-push to the release branch, tag it, create the machine manifest.
I'm still in the first phase, which is the longest one.
JBQ
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when he says: guys you can download now, first the servers will be slow as **** through a funnel, then we get ICS!
give it some time.
also hell will break lose on xda, wondering if we'll crash it hh.
awesome! can't wait
now it'll be easier for siulmagic to update his ROM... and i heard that tsubus will make a ICS ROM too... great!!
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How long do you reckon it will take for a stable port to the HTC Desire Z?
I'd say a few weeks for unstable ports, then a month or two for CM9 nightlies and eventually a stable build.
Stargazer418 said:
I'd say a few weeks for unstable ports, then a month or two for CM9 nightlies and eventually a stable build.
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Thanks
Forgive the stupid question here but does each phone type need its own custom ROM? Ie will we need a Rom customized for the desire z?
Hurray!
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scoobiesnacks said:
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Forgive the stupid question here but does each phone type need its own custom ROM? Ie will we need a Rom customized for the desire z?
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Yes, because the Vision has its own set of drivers that need to be cooked into the ROM for all the hardware to work.
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Why would they put 2.3 on the hero and g1. Simple answer. Because they can. Quit being a douche. If you can't be constructive then throw your keyboard/phone/tablet in the trash.
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Edit: Also remember that CM7 was on these phones pretty quick. The devs in our community know these phones. Plus the experience of doing it once might just make it a little easier to do it again. I remember from the Eris forums the devs saying it was easier to get 2.3 since they already battled through 2.2.
I'm also willing to bet you will see ICS for the g1 and hero also. Once again, just to say they did it!
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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wow. Pretty sure ICS is going to arrive even on phones that don't qualify.
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Yeah....no.
That is why the dev community is so cherished on Android, they keep old phones up to date. If they only worked on new phones, which will see these updates officially anyway, what's the freaking point? The G2 is a phone the devs (including Cyanogen himself) really like. So spend a little bit getting informed next time.
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TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Why would people troll a forum when they have better things to do?
That's the whole point of these development forums: to provide old, unsupported devices with the latest updates since the manufacturer won't.
Looks like someone has a lot to learn about the Android development community.
TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Can you tell me what phone out there with a keyboard is as nice as the Desire Z? I seriously don't know of any. The Captivate Glide looks like it's a contender but it has a grid keyboard, doesn't look like it'll have a notification LED, camera button, or the trackpad.
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TrueYears said:
Probably never, why would people waste their time porting it for the G2 when they have newer phones to work with?
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Apparently TrueYears has been trolling pretty hard this month, go look at his recent posts.
TrueYears, please leave immediately and never return. You are not contributing anything worthwhile. I'm serious; leave. This is a community where folks help one another learn and GIVE OF THEMSELVES to be a part of this, for ****ing FREE. You literally have no place here. You are completely at odds with the objectives of this community.
I'm just curious, how long did it take after gingerbread source for alpha CM rooms to start appearing?
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ICS Source code is AOSP

Google just dropped ICS to AOSP in case you didnt yet know. Hope to see some roms soon
http://androidapproved.com/item/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-is-now-aosp-custom-roms-in-3-2-1-go/
Ahhhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaaaa
I cannot wait. Yeahh booooyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wooooo!! )))
HTC Thunderbolt & ASUS Transformer Rooted!
**** JUST GOT REAL!
Cant wait to see what talented developers are gonna do with this, and with the new B70+ root, we should see more devs
The source is still getting pushed, it seems to be insanely large. I hope we see a CM9 build soon
KMyers said:
The source is still getting pushed, it seems to be insanely large. I hope we see a CM9 build soom
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If the devs were REALLY any good, they'd already be working on the source AS IT BEING PUSHED.
It's been at least two hours now and I'm getting impatient!
jhanford said:
If the devs were REALLY any good, they'd already be working on the source AS IT BEING PUSHED.
It's been at least two hours now and I'm getting impatient!
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you are joking yea lol
jhanford said:
If the devs were REALLY any good, they'd already be working on the source AS IT BEING PUSHED.
It's been at least two hours now and I'm getting impatient!
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Then Start your own project. The tools are out there. The more users push.... the less motivation us Devs have.
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gojimi said:
Then Start your own project. The tools are out there. The more users push.... the less motivation us Devs have.
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I think you missed the invisible </s> tag...
It doesn't matter... I know he was joking... you know he was joking... but the 1000 noobs that are going to come once word spreads...... that's a different story. And posts like these only serve to muddy the waters. My 2 cents as a Dev.
That was only worth 1 cent. Where is my change?
Today is a very very awesome day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MORE ISOLATION FOR US HONEYCOMB USERS
More apps more stability more customization and maybe just maybe cm9 im so happy
Also i think icecream will be alot nicer for the devs to mod atleast when it comes to tablets. In saying that though what roach has done with prime is amazing and i cant wait to see what he can do with aosp!!!
gojimi said:
It doesn't matter... I know he was joking... you know he was joking... but the 1000 noobs that are going to come once word spreads...... that's a different story. And posts like these only serve to muddy the waters. My 2 cents as a Dev.
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Fair enough!
On a different note, I really hope it's called CM8 and not CM9... Has there been any official statement concerning the name?
Wow, it's been a whole 5 hours and still no ICS custom rom. What good is android if I can't get the newest version now?
Off to the ipad 2 I go!
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The article I read said cm9
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ChristoA1 said:
Fair enough!
On a different note, I really hope it's called CM8 and not CM9... Has there been any official statement concerning the name?
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It's CM9. CM8 would've been Honeycomb, but obviously the source was never released.
MaSt3rGrIfF said:
It's CM9. CM8 would've been Honeycomb, but obviously the source was never released.
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Parts of Honeycomb's source code was released with ICS.
pdc419 said:
The article I read said cm9
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There's a reason I asked for an official source ... I read an article yesterday that said Obama was pregnant with Palin's love child, but I haven't seen anything posted on rumors.gov...
On a more serious note, CM numbering has not matched Android versioning directly, but rather has been incremental, which is why I say that there's a chance the ICS version could be CM8, since a honeycomb version doesn't and won't exist.
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When Are We Getting a Better Working Sense 4 and Android 4 ROMs?

At this point, things that don't work are the things I need to work. Nothing has changed for nearly two months now, so I'm just curious.
the impatience and greed around here is unbelievable...
if you want something to be fully working and perfect, you gotta make it yourself. plus rushing things isn't gonna do any good at all. it will come, just be patient... be glad we even have a Sense 4 ROM...
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
Saranhai is part of the team that brings a lot of ROM's to this device. He is probably a little frustrated that it seems like is never good enough, or fast enough for people. Your question may have been honest and purely innocent, but with the way things have been around here lately his reaction is somewhat understandable.
Several devs are hard at work on sense 4 kernels and the camera. When they have a usable fix, it will be released. If you want to add to their resolve you could always donate
Don_Perrignon said:
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
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I'm patiently waiting too. And so you know, I'm posting this in a good mood, not frustrated or being smart. But from what I understand is its basically at a standstill until devs can get the necassary kernel to get the camera working. It's not that they are being slow..they simply don't have what's needed to accomplish it. And I may be entirely wrong..that's just what I have been thinking.
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Don_Perrignon said:
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
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Well maybe you should've worded it better than instead of sounding like a selfish idiot... Anyway sorry for "assuming"
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jjbadd385 said:
I'm patiently waiting too. And so you know, I'm posting this in a good mood, not frustrated or being smart. But from what I understand is its basically at a standstill until devs can get the necassary kernel to get the camera working. It's not that they are being slow..they simply don't have what's needed to accomplish it. And I may be entirely wrong..that's just what I have been thinking.
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Okay. I understand, not saying anybody is being slow. I just wanted to know what the issue was. It's crazy that Sense seems to be the most troublesome UI.
saranhai said:
Well maybe you should've worded it better than instead of sounding like a selfish idiot... Anyway sorry for "assuming"
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Take it at face value MF. It's my fault that you put your own thoughts into a simple question? Seriously, it's all too common on XDA for people to needlessly attack others on the basis that people are too sensitive.
See the answer that JJ gave? That's all that we needed. I wanted to know the issues the devs were facing? If anything I was concerned, because I've never seen something give this kind of trouble on this phone. We all appreciate the works that devs do. We all act like kids in a candy store for the work that devs do.
Team Inferno member ...Awesome... is releasing a One S port. Yes, One S. Hope that fits your needs (besides camera )
Don_Perrignon said:
At this point, things that don't work are the things I need to work. Nothing has changed for nearly two months now, so I'm just curious.
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if you did any searching youd know it all depends on when HTC releases the 3.0 kernel and we can get some kernel devs to port it to our devices..
did you really need a thread to ask for an ETA on something thats not even meant for our phone? cmon son lol
I too am impatiently waiting for a upgrade
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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Couldn't have summed it up better myself
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TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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You just summed up my thoughts to the OP and this thread...
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trofmoc said:
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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Who the **** is demanding? It was a question wanting to the the issue the devs where facing.
Oooh i think this is gonna come to a close soon. Enough fighting
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I like cereal.
That is all.
People should stop getting butthurt so easily.
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I like cereal.
That is all.
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No way! Me too
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I think it got a little hot outside to the point it heated everything, even in the internet.... xD
The issue is that there's no HTC official kernel source for any "sister" devices - DHD/DS, and they didn't get the HTC ICS update either. Without the kernel source, devs have to use kernel source from other, less compatible devices to compile the kernel, and the binary drivers from those devices don't match the HW. There are no skilled enough and/or willing enough devs to dig in the kernel code and rewrite the API towards the drivers to match the older, working drivers from Gingerbread (that's what was done back in Gingerbread release time), mostly because it's a huge work that brings almost no benefits - the official code is likely to be better anyway, and its release will most likely be closer to this point in time than the shortest time required for "enthusiast" work.
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The issue is that there's no HTC official kernel source for any "sister" devices - DHD/DS, and they didn't get the HTC ICS update either. Without the kernel source, devs have to use kernel source from other, less compatible devices to compile the kernel, and the binary drivers from those devices don't match the HW. There are no skilled enough and/or willing enough devs to dig in the kernel code and rewrite the API towards the drivers to match the older, working drivers from Gingerbread (that's what was done back in Gingerbread release time), mostly because it's a huge work that brings almost no benefits - the official code is likely to be better anyway, and its release will most likely be closer to this point in time than the shortest time required for "enthusiast" work.
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I think in layman terms, that means if someone attempted to rewrite source code to match the h/w in the Glacier, by the time they would finish, better & more compatible code would be here anyway. So its best, at this point, to just wait patiently?
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