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Can the Galaxy Tab play high-profile .mkv files flawlessly?
What I am talking about is 720p .mkv files with high bit rate ( 4,000+ kbps ) without DTS sound (just AAC sound) flawlessly?
The Xoom is having problem in this department.
Also, what player do you use? Default, or Rockplayer or others?
Standard video player plays 1080p and 720p without any problem...
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i use mVideoplayer, like it that it can extract subtitles from mkv.
Stock video player has played everything for me fine
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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What I am talking about is 720p .mkv files with high bit rate ( 4,000+ kbps )
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High bit rate 4mbps? Compared to what, a cellphone video? XD
I got the tab to read PERFECTLY a full hd beast peaking roughly at 40mbps. H264, obviously. Was an mp4, but i doubt that a container will make any difference, i did watch several 720p mkv on the tab anyway.
Oh, i almost forgot: all this with the built in player. Using rockplayer in software mode, that 1080p beast ran at 2-3 fps.
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I have played 720p MKV file. But no player seems to play it smoothly. And most of them does not play the sound audibly.
Worse, the stock player do not even recognize the file type. H264 videos are flawless.
any suggestions for the MKV player?
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Worse, the stock player do not even recognize the file type. H264 videos are flawless.
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I watched like 6 episodes of Panty and Stocking with the stock player. MKV with subtitles (i had to convert them into srt and put them outside the MKV container...) in 720p and clearly with h264 video and aac audio.
There is maybe something wrong with your player?
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I've got some mixed results.
Most files play fine, 1080p or 720p, but it has problems with some files with only DTS or AC3 sound included.
While the galaxy tab is the best media playing tablet I've tried (not tried the archos 101) it failed to play a 720p blu ray rip with 9 reference frames I think it was encoded with matroska libraries later than 1.0
Stock Player is amazing. I cannot stress that enough. It can play 1080p and 720p high profile mp4 h.264 videos flawlessly. Only gripe is the non-support for > 2ch audio, but this can be easily remedied via an audio demux with Yamb -> downmix to stereo -> mux new audio with Yamb.
I don't even watch movies on my HTPC anymore, I just downmix the audio, leave the video alone, and paste the file unto my device.
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I found that using Rockplayer universal with hardware decoding mode plays just as well as the stock play but with the added function of allowing you to choose which audio track to use. However if you have an integrated sub title track mvideoplayer is better. However what the device can play isn't limited to profiles, as I found the tab can play high profile but content encoded with some of the newer matroska libraries, it struggles with.
Hi everybody. I am running Phiremod 6.2. What I really want is to be able to drop a standard definition video on the sd card, such as a divx or xvid file on the and have it play back smoothly on the nook. It seems that hardware video decryption doesn't work and that is the reason we are stuck using software decryption. What is the best video player? Even with the best video player, do you still need to re-encode the videos to lower resolution for proper playback? What format do you re-encode video to? Do we expect hardware video decryption to be accomplished by the amazing xda hackers?
Thanks!
I use Mobo player for playback. Have encoded several standard def videos from a TV series using Handbrake with the nookcolor preferences created by someone else on this forum, in H.264 format. They look and sound very good this way, except it does not fill the screen which is expected as it is standard def. Have not tried any HD content yet.
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Hi everybody. I am running Phiremod 6.2. What I really want is to be able to drop a standard definition video on the sd card, such as a divx or xvid file on the and have it play back smoothly on the nook. It seems that hardware video decryption doesn't work and that is the reason we are stuck using software decryption. What is the best video player? Even with the best video player, do you still need to re-encode the videos to lower resolution for proper playback? What format do you re-encode video to? Do we expect hardware video decryption to be accomplished by the amazing xda hackers?
Thanks!
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Isn't Phiremod just a modded CM7? CM7 suppports hardware decoding, for up to 480p files (max 854x480). Anything beyond that will be soft decoded. Anything that isn't expressly supported by Nook's "supported" video/audio formats are, afaik, also software decoded (the base player will not do this, need something like vitalplayer or rockplayer, etc.)
- If a video is just not a supported format but is 480p and under, it runs very smoothly for me in CM7 as software decoded -- you wouldn't be able to tell that it wasn't hardware accelerated.
- If a video is higher than 480p (720p, etc) or the bitrate is too high, even if it is the supported format, it will also attempt to be software decoded. My experience with this is that it's poor quality (stutters, audio desync a lot of times, etc.)
MP4 container, H.264 baseline codec for video conversion. Anamorphic loose, 854x480. AAC / MP3 (I forget what else is supported) codecs for audio, choose 44.1 khz sampling rate instead of 48khz to avoid problems. Bitrate for video and audio are up to you, but I wouldn't use the lossless setting for H.264 because you'll have issues with it playing (and will be an enormous file). You also really don't need to use it for a 7" screen. For me, video bitrate of 800 kbps (avg) is low but acceptable, 1100 for medium, 1500 is (non-HD) dvd quality. 128-160 kbps audio, your choice.
There's a lot of players out on the market, many free. I like Vital Player Neon a lot but the paid app version failed on me because of their self-copy protection. I use Moboplayer and also installed the Neon codec from the dev's website, it improved my performance noticeably on some more system-intensive videos.
As always, YMMV.
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I use Mobo player for playback. Have encoded several standard def videos from a TV series using Handbrake with the nookcolor preferences created by someone else on this forum, in H.264 format. They look and sound very good this way, except it does not fill the screen which is expected as it is standard def. Have not tried any HD content yet.
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Is the <-> (vs >-<, etc options) not working for you to expand it to full screen? I have not had any issues getting 480p content to edge-to-edge (provided it's 16:9 aspect ratio, which many shows and movies are. While Nook's resolution isn't true 16:9 it's close enough that you won't notice any real edge). The only videos that display with bars for me are the wider aspect ratio ones.
(On stock rooted firmware, with 1.1Ghz OC)
I also use handbrake... encoding to 1024x576 xvid seems to do the trick with mobo player. (Altough so far I tried only one video file.)
edit: tried an other one, plays almost perfectly in sync. It is about 1 frame out-of-sync that can only be noticed with hard, fast sounds like slapping.
Encoding to h264 with the said resolution results in video being played back slower and of course audio being out of sync.
480p h264 baseline / aac mp4 files can be hardware decoded and play nice, but I'm all for the bigger resolution.
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Is the <-> (vs >-<, etc options) not working for you to expand it to full screen? I have not had any issues getting 480p content to edge-to-edge (provided it's 16:9 aspect ratio, which many shows and movies are. While Nook's resolution isn't true 16:9 it's close enough that you won't notice any real edge). The only videos that display with bars for me are the wider aspect ratio ones.
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The ones I did were not in 16:9 aspect ratio, they were 4:3 which is why I believe I could not expand them to full screen. I haven't yet tried a 16:9 video like a movie but will soon.
in addition to the formats/resoluton mentioned try using Vital Player Neon - works with a lot of formats - plays really smooth on my NC (CM7 7.02+1.3GHzOC)
Thanks a bunch!
Guys im looking for an app that can play mkv file, which one do u prefer? With hardware acceleration
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Guys im looking for an app that can play mkv file, which one do u prefer? With hardware acceleration
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Mxvideoplayer can play mkv 1080p video with H/W , though it only works with 8-bit video, not 10-bit profile.
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Mxvideoplayer can play mkv 1080p video with H/W , though it only works with 8-bit video, not 10-bit profile.
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how can i check my video is 8 or 10 bit?
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how can i check my video is 8 or 10 bit?
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You can check it by going to the video properties on your preferred video player on your pc,im pretty sure most mkv files are 8 bit.
is the 8bit restriction a limitation of the hardware, or of the (mxvideo)player?
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is the 8bit restriction a limitation of the hardware, or of the (mxvideo)player?
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Im not really sure about that but whenever i tried to play 10 bit mkv video on mxvideoplayer with hardware decoding, it gave me a black screen.
Dice
You might want to try Dice player as well, i had loads of mkv rips that would not play audio on other players but dice has never failed me on mkv's
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You might want to try Dice player as well, i had loads of mkv rips that would not play audio on other players but dice has never failed me on mkv's
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I tried dice player it doesnt work. so far mxvideoplayer, dice player and moboplayer doesnt work for 10 bit mkv with H/W.
I'm not sure if there are any players that can play 10bit files at the moment. For general mkv's I've been using Dice Player as it has been able to play all my files on my Asus transformer which other players weren't able to. But since the exynos processor is far superior to the tegra2 I would think any player that has hardware accelerated playback will suffice.
Most recently I've been using BS player as well for playing mkv's stored on my NAS streamed over wifi. This is the only player that seems to be able to play 720p video smoothly over wifi.
Stock Samsung player can't play MKV like Galaxy S and Galaxy SII?!? It's the best HW player for my SII...
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I use MoboPlayer, it can play almost video formats well.
But I also got aneesoft video converter to help me do some conversions when need, and it let me to play HD, and AVCHD videos that shot by HD camcorder smoothly.
Aneesoft? Never heard of that. I'm looking for a .mov converter as the tablet converter had trouble with my .mov files.
Is that the best converter out there?
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Aneesoft? Never heard of that. I'm looking for a .mov converter as the tablet converter had trouble with my .mov files.
Is that the best converter out there?
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Well, aneesoft video converter can convert the .MOV video well for my tablet, it has a special output selection for tablet, so you just need to choose your tablet model as output.
I'll echo the mx player recommendation; I like its rendering options and subtitle support among other things. Lack of hi10p support is a hardware limitation. Video with 10-bit color profiles is just too new and (at least afaik) isn't supported by any current hardware. And of course mobile cpus lack the compute muscle to decode decent-quality x.264 smoothly. So as others have said, transcoding on your computer is your best bet. If you don't know anything about video encoding, try http://hi10ptranscoder.wordpress.com/. It's a simple program for this exact problem.
For me Dice-player had stuttering every 10 secs on some .mkv-files. The stock player doesn't stutter, but it also doesn't support movies with DTS-sound.
MX Player seems to work the best and it also has an option for SW-decoding the sound if a file has DTS-sound. (Have to change it from the default HW-decoding to hear sound.)
No need to worry about 8 or 10 bit - there are NO rips with 10bit of any movies, 720p, 1080p - all are OK...EXCEPT some crazy anime, seen them - I really don't get this 10 bit hype - just some ultra-grainy stuff...
Stock video player can play MKV smoothly , why bother to use another player ?
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Stock video player can play MKV smoothly , why bother to use another player ?
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Stock player doesnt play audio if the mkv contains DTS track.
MX Video player for me is the best. Without chainging the H/W decoding i just selecting the DTS audio track and plays it perfect.
I have done tests with heavy mkc samples with 20-40MBPS with DTS sound and it plays it so smooth. Smoother than my expensive O2 HMR-2000!
My oldest Galaxy S2 plays them perfect too but with same samples i have some frame drops some times even if i have it at 1.6GHz.
It seems tab 7.7 doesnt have excactly the same cpu/gpu. At papers it is the same. But not in real life. Maybe the memory or the controler or the chipset or the architecture? I dont know.
It plays PERFECT any mkv with DTS and it is an great media player. The only problem is to read NTFS HDD's. Because the fullHD / full length good quality movies is always bigger than 4GB's that the file system of TAB can read.
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Stock player doesnt play audio if the mkv contains DTS track.
MX Video player for me is the best. Without chainging the H/W decoding i just selecting the DTS audio track and plays it perfect.
I have done tests with heavy mkc samples with 20-40MBPS with DTS sound and it plays it so smooth. Smoother than my expensive O2 HMR-2000!
My oldest Galaxy S2 plays them perfect too but with same samples i have some frame drops some times even if i have it at 1.6GHz.
It seems tab 7.7 doesnt have excactly the same cpu/gpu. At papers it is the same. But not in real life. Maybe the memory or the controler or the chipset or the architecture? I dont know.
It plays PERFECT any mkv with DTS and it is an great media player. The only problem is to read NTFS HDD's. Because the fullHD / full length good quality movies is always bigger than 4GB's that the file system of TAB can read.
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Ntfssd can read NTFS sdcard, Drive Mount can read OTG NTFS or EXT storage devices. These two app are free in Market.
I would have to chime in and say MX-Video player is the best especially on how it handles video stretching, the stock player cant really cover the entire screen and both dice and mvideo player zooms the image to fit the screen, only MX video player stretches it properly to cover the entire screen, pretty nice if your using a honeybar
I'm using rooted official 2.3 rom. when I play mkv 720p movies , video plays at lower frame rate than usual and problem in audio video sync. I use mx player and hardware decoder is not available for mkv. can please anyone suggest me some tips to play 720p smoothly. and is there hardware decoding available in new adreno driver in dzo ics for mkv?
I m using bsplayer lite tha supports mkv.
720p on nearly 480p device?
Professionals can correct me, there are few reasons why it won't play in full speed:
1) .mkv files need usually the same space as .mp4, but it has better quality. BUT needs more power to play. That is the disadvantage of matroska. So if there is too high bitrate on the video, it lags/wents off sync. Overclocking might help.
2) 720p??! Really? This phone CAN record 720p video with good fps, but only in good light conditions. You can even watch them (because they are so low-bitrate), but if you have like 720p movie, it lags due to high bitrate it needs to look clear. BUT why would you want to play 1280x720 (16:9 ) resolution video in 800x480 (16:10) resolution screen? Shapes will look odd... I would prefer 480p (854x480).
3) I'm guessing that your movie is on your memorycard? If your memorycard is too slow, can that be the reason for lagging too. This can be fixed with faster memorycard.
4) Switch to Moboplayer. I don't have any experience of mxplayer, but Moboplayer can use hardware decoding for that.
Can we discuss what video formats you use for dvd rips and settings . What works what doesnt. App you use and on what os.
Me personally i make 720p mp4 videos using mpeg streamclip on my mac. I always hear ppl talking about making 1080p mkv files or whatever does the quality even matter on our none hd screens ?? Arnt dvds only 480 or 720p any how. Anyone here rip bluerays .
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DVDs are 480p max. If you encode to higher res, all you're doing is stretching the video for no purpose.
Stretching the res just makes the end product bigger with no quality gain, and your player or device
will stretch the video anyway.
Blurays are 1080p. The scale (e.g. 720p size reduction) and quality you use are dependent on what you
intend to play the videos on. 720p is perfect for the Galaxy Note 10.1 with its 800p screen
Suggested format:
The best video codec: h264
The best audio codec: aac
The best container: mkv (for multiple audio and subs) or mp4 (subs as well as more than two audio streams a bit troublesome)
My preference (h264 video +aac audio) in mkv.
As a rough guide:
A practical DVD rip = ~1.3-1.7 GB (~1500 kbps @480p)
A decent BluRay rip would be ~2.7 GB (~2500 kbps @720p)
A fairly transparent BluRay rip ~5 GB (~4000 kbps @720p)
Free or Commercial:
Depending on how much control you want over quality, as well as ease of use, I'd say go with a commercial solution (WinAVI is quite good).
Otherwise free solutions are quite good (e.g. RipBot264, StaxRip, Handbrake) but you will need to decrypt your purchased discs to your hard drives.
I almost exclusively watch 1080p MKV files on my Note 10.1. At first the audio had trouble staying synced with hardware decoding on every player I tried. Luckily VLC recently fixed that somehow with their Android app. I think MKV is good if you have multiple audio or subtitle tracks. Logically I know I shouldn't see a difference in quality between 720p & 1080p on this tablet, but I do. Think it has something to do with how it's scaled.
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I almost exclusively watch 1080p MKV files on my Note 10.1. At first the audio had trouble staying synced with hardware decoding on every player I tried. Luckily VLC recently fixed that somehow with their Android app. I think MKV is good if you have multiple audio or subtitle tracks. Logically I know I shouldn't see a difference in quality between 720p & 1080p on this tablet, but I do. Think it has something to do with how it's scaled.
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The 1080p could probably show better. Though the difference should be negligible.
If the video has black bars, these may be cropped in encoding. Which means the 1080p video is closer to 900p.
Encoding a cropped video to 720p may actually be closer to 544p (i.e. 1280x544p) to maintain the aspect ratio (so the video doesn't look "tall").
If the audio stream is 5.1 DTS audio, you're gonna probably have stuttering due to processing the larger audio file.
2 Channel (stereo) audio is all you need for the Note 10.1
Thanks guys so making my dvd rips 720p isnt doing anything but making a bigger file eh. Dont think mpeg streamclip has mkv which is why i use mp4 so far with no issues. My settings are h.264 aac 3000kbps bitrate limit and files are around 2 gb...
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Think im gunna look into an external blueray ripper for my mac. Any good programs for mac?
Tried handbrake but it doesnt take dvd rips, ie vob files.
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I usually rip my DVD's and convert them to .avi or mp4 at 480p or lower and purchase fullHD movies and re-encode them to 480p or 720p when i want to load them in my tablet. As long as the audio is good (i tend to favor conversion to stereo for tablet playback), i'm willing to sacrifice a little in image quality since having movies in fullHD can eat up a lot of space pretty quickly.
Thanks im trying some 480p conversion . Saving about 1/2 to 1 gb going down to 480p...
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Thanks im trying some 480p conversion . Saving about 1/2 to 1 gb going down to 480p...
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The difference of 480p against 720p isn't very noticeable if you watch movies with your tablet at arm's length.
720p is HD, and 1080p is Full HD so we do have an HD display. And I enjoy a good MKV Bluray rip on this device using BS Player.
And watching 480p isnt as bad due to the resolution.
Very nice app to convert videos on the fly...
...is Video Converter Android, an app for the Note 10.1.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsInJvbWFuMTAubWVkaWEuY29udmVydGVyIl0.
I have many videos in different formats, which sometimes cannot be played on the note 10.1. So I loaded them on my extSD, search in this app for video files, and all are found (3Gp, MPG, everything). Then I just tap on "convert" and the app changes format so that the movie can be played with stock video player.
I do not like to wait hours for video conversion at home til my pc is done with the task. The Note works on even with display switched off, and conversion is really fast.
ensure you rip them as summed to stereo if you are using large bitrates, BS player can deal with 5.1 audio but struggles with higher bitrates as it can only decode 5.1 in software. Stock player can play 5.1 AC3
REWORDED: On this tablet, is there a way to watch a wider-than-16:9 movie so the view size is enlarged/zoomed proportionally to fill the screen vertically? Instead of stretching and distorting a wide-screen movie vertically to fill the screen to get rid of the black bars (top and bottom), is it possible to enlarge the movie proportionally for fill the screen vertically while cropping the sides? That way, the sides are cropped-off, but there's no distortion. Maybe there's other movie viewing apps that can achieve this? I'm referring to only when watching, not encoding. Thanks.
What frame height & frame width do people recommend ?
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DVDs are 480p max. If you encode to higher res, all you're doing is stretching the video for no purpose.
Stretching the res just makes the end product bigger with no quality gain, and your player or device
will stretch the video anyway.
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To be accurate NTSC DVDs are 480 horizontal lines max. PAL are (up to) 576.
But back to the OPs question, I use makemkv to RIP the DVD and then Freemake to recode to generic Android supported codecs - which also decreases the file size by a factor of 3.
Freemake allows you to set a "up to" resolution so one setting of 720p will do for all DVDs and BluRay/HD-DVDs ...
With this tablet, is there a way to watch a wider-than-16:9 movie so the view size is enlarged/zoomed proportionally to fill the screen vertically? Instead of stretching and distorting a wide-screen movie vertically to fill the screen to get rid of the black bars (top and bottom), is it possible to enlarge the movie proportionally for fill the screen vertically while cropping the sides? That way, the sides are cropped-off, but there's no distortion. Maybe there's other movie viewing apps that can achieve this? I'm referring to only when watching, not encoding.
Anyone? Thanks.