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To Xoom or not to Xoom

Hi guys my wife just got me a Wifi Xoom from Costco for my birthday. I want to see how everybody feels about their Xoom and if I should return it and wait for a newer tablet. I already have a rooted Evo 4g so I don't need the 3g version of the Xoom.
I'd great appreciate some feedback.
Thanks
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Can I ask how much you paid for it? I was in Costco MK yesterday and I didn't see any in there so I got mine from PC World instead.
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I've had my Xoom for a little over a week and think it's the best thing I've ever owned. My iPad doesn't even compare and ended up giving it to my kids. Love the form factor, great screen and Honeycomb rocks. I highly recommend keeping it if you like Android.
On the other hand, the iPad is much more "dummy proof" and much better for someone not very technical.
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bparvin said:
Hi guys my wife just got me a Wifi Xoom from Costco for my birthday. I want to see how everybody feels about their Xoom and if I should return it and wait for a newer tablet.
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I think the question is, what are you planning to use the tablet for? The Xoom still has some features that are a little better than some tablets, and is also missing features compared to some others. Also if cost is a concern, you are almost guaranteed to be better off in 3-6 months since the newer series will be out by then and you'll see discounted clearance prices.
SO, tell us what you think you're going to do, and how comfortable you are in waiting, and I think we can better answer your question.

Kalavere said:
Can I ask how much you paid for it? I was in Costco MK yesterday and I didn't see any in there so I got mine from PC World instead.
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She got it for $589. They have a ton in stock here.
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EwanG said:
I think the question is, what are you planning to use the tablet for? The Xoom still has some features that are a little better than some tablets, and is also missing features compared to some others. Also if cost is a concern, you are almost guaranteed to be better off in 3-6 months since the newer series will be out by then and you'll see discounted clearance prices.
SO, tell us what you think you're going to do, and how comfortable you are in waiting, and I think we can better answer your question.
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Ill mostly use it for reading and surfing the net. Also ill be doing the usually nerdy stuff by trying out new ROMs and such.
I wasn't considering an iPad, I was more curious about if the performance isn't up to par, and if I should wait for a better honeycomb tablet.
Thanks for the feedback
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She got it for $589. They have a ton in stock here.
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Ah you're American.
I paid £479 for mine that's $791 damned they are expensive here. =/

These questions are so stupid. It's like asking if you would prefer a blue dress or the red one with laces... C'mon dude, there is an argument on both sides on whether or not you should keep the xoom, wait for another tablet or get an ipad. At the end of the day, it depends on your personal preference, your knowledge of computers/ android os and YOU doing research. Everyone's taste is different! I get tired of seeing these types of questions in forums. It's ridiculous.
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xertion3 said:
These questions are so stupid.
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If you don't like the question dude then don't read it. The subject made it pretty obvious what the question was.
Back to the question: I've had the Xoom since Feb 24 and like it a lot. I use it primarily for web browsing, news reading (RSS), email and FB, and the occasional game. I had an iPad for 8 months and was sick of the iOS limitations so happily gave it up.
The only thing I don't like about the Xoom is the rear facing speakers. When watching a video on the web or doing a video chat, to hear the sound good I either have to really crank the volume up, or cup the speakers to get the sound to come forward.

Thanks for the feedback. I've been playing with it all morning. I'm still trying figure out the best way to type on it though. Browsing isn't as smooth as I would like and it is a little heavier than I would like. My kindle spoiled me there. Everything else seems work pretty well. Email, tapatalk, google reader work well on the tablet.
Still trying to find useful 'tablet' apps though.
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I picked up a wifi Xoom the other day, since I decided it's a keeper it's already rooted and isn't going anywhere. I also have a Viewsonic G Tablet which is nice but doesn't hold a candle to the Xoom. The G Tablet is now for hacking and testing software that I'm developing.

bparvin said:
Thanks for the feedback. I've been playing with it all morning. I'm still trying figure out the best way to type on it though. Browsing isn't as smooth as I would like and it is a little heavier than I would like. My kindle spoiled me there. Everything else seems work pretty well. Email, tapatalk, google reader work well on the tablet.
Still trying to find useful 'tablet' apps though.
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For typing, get the thumb keyboard. Its the best for tablets. They just released the betaversion here on the forums, orjust get it from market

wasya152 said:
For typing, get the thumb keyboard. Its the best for tablets. They just released the betaversion here on the forums, orjust get it from market
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Thanks ill take a look. The thumb browsing on the stock browser is kinda cool too
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xertion3 said:
These questions are so stupid. It's like asking if you would prefer a blue dress or the red one with laces... C'mon dude, there is an argument on both sides on whether or not you should keep the xoom, wait for another tablet or get an ipad. At the end of the day, it depends on your personal preference, your knowledge of computers/ android os and YOU doing research. Everyone's taste is different! I get tired of seeing these types of questions in forums. It's ridiculous.
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Why are you reading it if you find it so stupid?

Right now its not a great deal having a xoom. For me its been kind of a dissapointment the apps support. Not even google have updated theyre own apps! they work but are not for tablet and low awful. The apps from big company names like facebook, twitter,etc havent even bother to upgrade to honeycomb. Maybe in 5 month we will find more than 20 apps for tablet (if you are from other country other than us. you cant install many honeycomb apps), but by that time xoom will be obsolete and there will be xoom 2 or whatever

bparvin said:
Hi guys my wife just got me a Wifi Xoom from Costco for my birthday.
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That was a very thoughtful and special gift. Sounds simple enough to me - Keep it. Enjoy it. Appreciate it.
Most of all - Allow your Wife to feel good about her decision then root it and enjoy things yet to come.

jerses said:
Right now its not a great deal having a xoom. For me its been kind of a dissapointment the apps support. Not even google have updated theyre own apps! they work but are not for tablet and low awful. The apps from big company names like facebook, twitter,etc havent even bother to upgrade to honeycomb. Maybe in 5 month we will find more than 20 apps for tablet (if you are from other country other than us. you cant install many honeycomb apps), but by that time xoom will be obsolete and there will be xoom 2 or whatever
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You do realize that the Honeycomb/tablet interface 3.0 is a mere 9 weeks old? Apple's IOS for tablets had already been out for roughly 55 weeks and had the the advantage of using existing iphone apps from June of 2007?
I believe Android didn't come around until November of 2009.
It took Apple quite some time to deliver apps and polish the software to where it is today.
It does take time and I would think Google is prepared to put up a hell of a fight.

interesting discussion guys, I am about to decide whether to buy xoom or ipad 32GB wifi.
Simple user, prefer a stable and trouble free tablet for daily use. Occasional movie,email, light gaming and some ebook reading. Wont be experimenting much. Almost decided on xoom, any last moment advise?

I love my Xoom. My only concern is the lack of apps. I think 6 months from now it won't be an issue.
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The XOOM is waiting for one or more important software updates. The XOOM was the first HC tablet and has been out the longest. I have also yet to see these other tablets advertised (as) much. Which one will get the most app / accessory support? My bet is on the XOOM regardless of which tablet ends up being technically superior later in the year. When things don't end up working as well other tablets (even though they perhaps should) as the XOOM, I'll be mostly unaffected.
The LG G-Slate has a smaller screen and lacks a SD Card Slot. The newer Samsung Galaxy Tab lacks a built-in HDMI port. The HTC Flyer may have their Sense UI Skin on it, I personally dislike manufacturer skins. The ASUS Transformer's build quality is not as good IMO but it can be had cheaper and supports mouse usage with optional dock. The Toshiba Tablet will have a full SD Card size card slot. Rea search the differences, decide what is important to you.

Thinking here..

So like.. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is a amazing built tablet and all but the little problems that acer has are horrible.. As in sleep wake/off, updates, battery drain by a phone app.. And etc.. Now im thinking about all of this and im thinking do any of you think it would be a good idea to return and wait til the new samsung or toshiba come out? Tomorrow i should be in work and i will be asking my manager if they got a release date on the samsung or toshiba tablet.. Since i work at staples and we should be getting the samsung nd toshiba from what i know.. Now im wondering everybody explain why acer should be kept because from the prices samsung is only a 50$ difference thats not a lot.. So lets hear it? I think the updates and bootloader being locked are my two biggest concerns about this tablet because im a crackflasher on my phone i wanna do the same on my tablet =]
AH! ****.. Somebody please move this to general i thought i was in the general section..

I returned mine today
Loved the tablet bur dreampt of unlocked recovery. I miss it already, hefty tab but so many ports
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Yeah i know im thinking about returning or keeping.. I need more input come on =]

Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
It's technology. It's a moving target. Remember your first blu-ray player?
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The will always be "the next best thing" the samsung is nice and thin but lacks ports. The toshiba is a bit of an unknown at the moment, and afaik this is there first step into the android os and cell/mobile market, so even more bugs are likely. I've had 2 Acer android cellphones, and there updates and stability was superb. In a few weeks we will have 3.1 and I'm quite sure most if not all bugs will be fixed. Just look at the bugs the xoom had when it was released...... not even a working sd card. And now there quite happy with there little tablet. The iconia is still brand spankin new, let Acer iron out the bugs....... they will

Yea but the stupid.. Phone and Tele app that eat battery nd mess up updates is freaking retarded.. The toshiba should be coming early june i could return my tablet for a while since i work at the store i bought it from and my manager will take it back so lets see.. Im trying to give Acer a chance since i own a Acer netbook and Computer and both are great.. Never bought a Acer phone but the tablet is built amazingly just what they did with software is horrible..

I was at Best Buy today bringing my A500 for an exchange for another A500 due to the HDMI port was kinda loose, and when touching the cable the pictures/video would go off on the monitor. I'm digging the Acer..
My cousin has an Asus transformer 16gb .... I made fun of him when I pointed out that his Asus didn't have flash, a low resolution front cam ... OH , when I was there, in the same spot where they stock the tablets, I saw at least three or four Motorola XOOM..... all was open box.
IMO .. all I care for is specs...and it seems that majority of the new tablets including the acer has really close in hardware specs, besides cosmetic.

The only thing giving me pause is lack of recovery. I'm used to being able to fix stuff myself. If tis thing goes tits up I have to rely on my retailer to take care of me.

Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.

lpachuong said:
Hmmm...you think anyone from acer is reading this? Love the tablet but hate their support.
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You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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jimbobtexas said:
Return it. Then second-guess your next purchase...
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lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;

eliteone said:
You never know on the galaxy s forum a guy named samsung jhon who worked for samsung was responsible for checking out the xda forum, and trying to keep the dev community happy. Of course he was chased out of the forum by all the haters and trolls, but it goes to show this little forum of ours can make a difference if we just keep voicing our discontent about the lack of recovery/locked bootloader.
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Lol we chased samsung john away with pitchforks and torches. That whole thing was a total sham.
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gammaRascal said:
lmao. So true.
Personally i'm glad the 'issues' are only a little battery drain (still unsubstanciated i might add), the screen popping on for a few seconds maybe once or twice.... what where the other ones? "etc" issues? Yeah, etc issues... whatever those are...
I didn't drop $500 for a toy. I bought a tool and as far as tools go, it meets and exceeds my expectations. Why so many people see fit to hop on and off the train, i think, says more about their personality than the tablet and whatever issues there might be (real or otherwise).
Go ahead, OP, get ride of it. It doesn't want you either. (;
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Lol.. The way you put it it sounds horrible.. Lol but no the etc i mean locked bootloader, no recovery, you cant delete specfic apps because if you do and try to restore you get a brick, updates mostly international, and **** like that the acer is built good and i know theres always something new around the corner because i have had android since the g1 days and getting a new phone like every 3 months i know about the new things lmfao so im just thinking on if acer will make it better in the next couple weeks because if they do and they fix everything i would happily stay with acer because right now i dont want to risk anything on the tablet try to do anything because i know theres no way of returning it to stock at the moment if i eff something up i just want that satisfaction that if i **** something up i can fix it myself and not call acer and send it out and have them fix it..

I hear ya.
I don't consider the locked bootloader, personal recovery option and inability to remove pre-installed apps as 'issues'. And, really, it isn't. At least, not for those of us who just use it as it was intended to be used.
Yes, the a500 needs a little tweaking, however it's mostly Honeycomb and all minor. Unlike some tabs that have glaring hardware issues, the a500 leads the pack in quality and consistency. IMO, anyways (; (sure I'm biased but I have played with other tabs)
Don't get me wrong, I see the value in being able to recover on your own (if something goes awry) but in the end, it went that way because of user error (or bad mod, whatever the case may be) and because it was unlocked / rooted - It's no fault of Acer and it shouldn't be held against them or the tablet. Like all other tablet manufacturers, they wouldn't support that even if they did release the key. And in the end, all we'd really get out of it all are more people bricking their tabs, Acer getting screwed over by people lying and returning their tabs - all for the ability to what? Delete or rename a few files? Get back maybe, 100mb on a 16gb tab with microSD and USB?
If some mod came out that flipped HC on it's head and created a user experience that surpasses all others, then, and only then, would I ever consider rooting (ROM hacking etc ((if that ever becomes possible)) Until then, what few and silly 'root req' apps there are and minuscule returns one gets are far too insignificant for me.
But, you know. In the end, it about what you want. If modability is a prerequisite, you probably should have waited. If you take it back, you might want to consider waiting until you know for a fact that all those features are available in the next tablet du-jour.

I get what ur saying.. But heres the thing ive played with the xoom and asus and everything there built great as well just those little features that i wont use like usb support are the only thing missing on those other tablets.. I like root because it can help me get rid of the stuff i dont use and is running the background.. also the custom roms are usually a lot better than what the manufacturs usually release with the hardware.. So idk im gonna wait til the new thing comes out and see what the developers do with it.. Since i only had the tablet for a week nd 2 days.. I have a while to return =]

return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine

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return it, by the looks of your phone list seems like your indecisive(not trying to be mean) the wake up issue is not a big deal and will get fixed. i get over a days use with heavy use.
if this tab gets regular support will flashing new ROMS really be necessary. i mean on HTC hero chirst that thing needed support there was no way to make it through a two year contract with it.
Now my nexus s theres support on here for it and its great. but out of the box it works just fine
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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..

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Lol i dont mind if your being mean I'm not gonna get a fit over internet lmao but anyways its not that I'm indecisive its just i like the most new thing out on the market I'm just a big fan of all the new technology.. And i think flashing roms and seeing what you can do with the power that's available is great it just makes everything you do so much better that's the only reason i want the unlocked everything and i think with what the people are actually trying here at XDA is amazing because from the way things are going i think they might have a recovery soon =]..
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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?

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Don't get me wrong but i think switching hardware that often and just flashing ROMs and software made by other people is called consumerism. Ahum. What's the point of switching the device unless you've explored all its hardware, know all electronic details like chips used and gpios/clocks or unless it's just too old to run software you need for work?
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+1, I only wish I were more development savvy side to help out...
I'm merely a lowly Oracle/MSSQL server, EMC SAN?NAS admin.....

Well i have no idea why i switch so much maybe i just like that new phone/tablet/computer feeling lol but hey you guys do put up some good points so lets see what happens..

Motorola xoom , is it good?

hi everyone , ive just bought my motorola xoom mz604 , and i think its awesome because android honeycomb is really good OS, it is fast and smooth
but iam having some problems with installing apps, and i realized that most of them aren't compitable with the xoom, like the android games hawx, assassins creed and modern combat 2...
anyways i just wanted to know the adv and dis-adv of my device from an expert
thnx =)
sorry for my bad english

Answering the question in your title, the xoom IS good... very good, in fact. Sure there are a few apps here and there that do not work, but for the most part, everything runs fine. Additionally, the new scaling option in 3.2 ensures that more apps are functional. I simply love the beauty and elegance of honeycomb, and I still find the xoom to be my preferred method to obtain the honeycomb experience. Plus, being Google's reference HC device, we get all of the updates first.

I like it
3.1/3.2 is brill for emulators too when you connect up a ps3 controller via usb!

Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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kwiggington said:
Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.

Ummmm. Its the "google dev" device. With that said...
Moto is a horrible company
The xoom 3g has turned into the last tab to recieve updates
Still no promised 4g
Sd support is only soso...
I would recommend a samsung device...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom

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...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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I couldn't disagree more, but to each his own...

I'm plenty happy with mine, just a wifi though and no cell network model. That, honestly, is probably the issue with slow updates just like it is for my epic: the company that runs the network it's attached to wants to manage its stuff (aka install crap and extra 'features') and is slowing down the process. Sprint is HORRIBLE with this.
As for why I chose the xoom over others - part of it was price, it was the $400 32gb wifi model off woot.com. Second was that it has actual ports on it (micro-usb, mini-hdmi, etc) and not some proprietary jack *cough*galaxytab*cough* that you need to hook up some dorky dongle to in order to get a usb port.

I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
I have to root this thing to get that basic feature. I think they still haven't figured out the issue that devs figured out. Other than that I like it and apps are slowly starting to catch up.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.

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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Plus no sd slot and only one port
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Fair Enough. Touchwiz might be able to be disabled when it comes out but maybe not. The xoom comes with a bit of crapware itself, dungeon defender and cordy are the ones that come to mind though there may be more.
It would not be worth the cost to me but to each his own. You could probably find a xoom owner who is fed up with Motorola enough to do a trade.

xoom
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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I hope it's good Mine should be here tomorrow

I just exchanged the tab must say i like the xoom better and i already have a spare 16gb sd
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drsteven2 said:
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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I second that
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4g is coming in sept. Per verizon
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Good, solid hardware.
Mine was rooted 5 minutes out of the box, so I have had SD R/W since day one.

gqstatus0685 said:
I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
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I had to fiddle around with the formatting in order to make it work, but I know the problem you had and eventually got around it. Try ntfs, fat, or whatever - just mess around with it in your computer until you find one that it likes. I forget offhand what made mine happy.

This is by FAR my favorite tablet!!

I've loved the concept of tablets for a long time, but two things that were always keeping me from replacing my laptop with a tablet - full sized ports and a video editor.
I've tried iPad and iPad2 - too limited
Galaxy tab (7 inch) - LOVED it, but couldn't justify keeping it anymore
Xoom - It was great, but didn't really have a use for it.
Acer Iconia - Really liked it, but again didn't do everything I wanted.
Toshiba Thrive - So far, I'm thinking I'll be able to replace my laptop. I can even hook this thing to a TV or monitor (with adapter) and use a full sized keyboard and mouse, external hard drive, game controller, whatever.
For what I do on my laptop, since I don't really develop anymore, I can do just about everything on the Thrive.
Even the movie editor, although basic, is working out for me so far..
Granted I've only had it a day and a half, but so far so good.

I played with all of the top rated tablets before I purchased my Thrive. And as far as I'm concerned, the quality and features of this tablet are among the best of all the currently available choices. But what blows me away is the total lack of interest from the xda development community. That and Thrive owners, including myself, had to literally beg for an xda forum. This is a total mystery. And they've left us no clues. Because I never have seen any negatives on this tablet, period. But what has scared away all the developers is aparently a well kept secret. I had high hopes when I first purchased my Thrive. But up until now only 1 and maybe 2 persons are qualified(?) developers, and have taken interest in the Thrive. And things are just plain dead right now, even at thriveforums.org. What a bummer! So I will probably end up selling it, even though it is a great tablet, and getting something that has more developer interest, such as the Asus Transformer. Because I like to play.
9-29 UPDATE: Rumor has it that the next Thrive update is going to make things more difficult for everyone, as Fastboot has been removed. If Toshiba does this, it will make it a lot harder for us to "play."

Lexus One said:
I played with all of the top rated tablets before I purchased my Thrive. And as far as I'm concerned, the quality and features of this tablet are among the best of all the currently available choices. But what blows me away is the total lack of interest from the xda development community. That and Thrive owners, including myself, had to literally beg for an xda forum. This is a total mystery. And they've left us no clues. Because I never have seen any negatives on this tablet, period. But what has scared away all the developers is aparently a well kept secret. I had high hopes when I first purchased my Thrive. But up until now only 1 and maybe 2 persons are qualified(?) developers, and have taken interest in the Thrive. And things are just plain dead right now, even at thriveforums.org. What a bummer! So I will probably end up selling it, even though it is a great tablet, and getting something that has more developer interest, such as the Asus Transformer. Because I like to play.
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Man Lexus One. You should hang in there. We may not have any love from the XDA crowd, but those of us working on the Thrive are doing great things. I think you will see a lot more come along when ICS is released. This device by far is running smoother than any of the others. Tweaks I have made to the boot image for memory management has really stepped it up. Guys like to overclock to make the device run smoother, but right now, I do not think we need it. dj_steve is porting ROMs and giving you guys that like custom ROMs the ROms to play with. I am keeping those of us that like the stock feel what we need. I do not think going to the Asus will make you any happier. Development has slowed down for all the tablets. I think all are looking for ICS release and the source to go with it.

I am getting one of these soon (from the AndroidAndMe contest) and was excited about the ports and goodies and all despite the thickness. It also made me sad there is barely any development tho.

dalepl said:
Man Lexus One. You should hang in there. We may not have any love from the XDA crowd, but those of us working on the Thrive are doing great things. I think you will see a lot more come along when ICS is released. This device by far is running smoother than any of the others. Tweaks I have made to the boot image for memory management has really stepped it up. Guys like to overclock to make the device run smoother, but right now, I do not think we need it. dj_steve is porting ROMs and giving you guys that like custom ROMs the ROms to play with. I am keeping those of us that like the stock feel what we need. I do not think going to the Asus will make you any happier. Development has slowed down for all the tablets. I think all are looking for ICS release and the source to go with it.
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You could be right about things improving for the Thrive. However I think you are operating more on faith than on the facts. Because if things don't start picking up soon, the new quad core tablets will be popping up, and interest in Thrive development will probably diminish even more. Sorry to be so negative, but it's hard for me to have your faith right now. But I am thankful that the Thrive has got people like you and dj_steve to keep things interesting and fun. And everyone else who has helped in the area of development.

I just bought one last week when Was visiting the US (in fact am typing this on it!!) And have to say I love it. My wife bought an I pad, and I think she secretly wishes she got the thrive instead!! Love the connectivity and Android is far superior to iOS. As for the thickness, I don't even notice it now. The latest rom seems to have fixed the sleep of death issue.
And the price was great, worked out about £260, which is pretty cheap for honeycomb tablet.
All in all highly recommended!
Cheers

ayster said:
I just bought one last week when Was visiting the US (in fact am typing this on it!!) And have to say I love it. My wife bought an I pad, and I think she secretly wishes she got the thrive instead!! Love the connectivity and Android is far superior to iOS. As for the thickness, I don't even notice it now. The latest rom seems to have fixed the sleep of death issue.
And the price was great, worked out about £260, which is pretty cheap for honeycomb tablet.
All in all highly recommended!
Cheers
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Glad to here you like it. I enjoy mine also. At least when I can get it away from the wife. She's hooked on Angry Birds.

Every day there's something I like more about it.
Just last night I was messing with ES File Manager, mapped a drive to my windows share that has all my media and tried to launch a video (something I haven't been able to do over the network on other devices).
Boom, WMV, AVI, MP4.. all played flawlessly.
I didn't have to do anything special but download the file manager.
I'm putting my laptop on Craigslist.. this thing is officially a replacement for me.
.. let me rephrase that, for me, it is a laptop replacement.. not that it's a replacement for me.
..although if I was a tablet, my wife could push my buttons all she wanted.. haha

Glad you are liking it. You might want to check out thisone.org.

dalepl said:
Glad you are liking it. You might want to check out ThriveForums.org.
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I've been following XDA for years, since I first bought my Samsung i760 and fell I love with it. Its a great phone that I always consider bringing back into service! Then when I jumped to HTC I found this the place to be, now I'm like wtf... how is the thrive so neglected? The potential this device has with full sized USB is insane! Why wouldn't devs take advantage of it? I feel like no one cares about the thrive, Toshiba turned around and made a tablet that all the fanboys on here ***** that the ipad doesn't have... the ipad doesn't have expandable memory, it doesn't have full sized USB or HDMI out, the web can could be better.... ppl flamed the ipad so much and Toshiba turned around and took all these ideas and put them into a tablet and granted its bigger than normal but its not overly so.
Toshiba went above and beyond making this tablet and so many people turned around and **** on it and ignored it... so now we may never get another tablet like this again. Soon we will all be told how much storage we need and be forced to upgrade when we either don't have enough or our batteries can't hold longer than a 5 minute charge...
Sigh, I'm ranting but I'm gonna start moving away from xda now I love their dev's and the projects they embark on but I can't take the forum as much anymore. Even the mods are getting on my nerves, like the post that's in the Toshiba dev thread in here... the mod says its not his job to keep a thread cleaned and organized... what crack are you ****ing smoking? If your not a dev or project manager it is your ****igng job you retard, why else are you a ****ing mod? Ive been a forum mod, IRCop, NetAdmin and if that's your attitude your just being unreasonable and I see that more and more here at xda. Kids these days are so backwards, I fear for future generations. I think I'll be spending more time over at thriveforums.org.
Anyway sorry for ranting...
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I wonder if people fear the Toshiba name? When I got my galaxy tab the Thrive had just come out. I had minor interest only because it was a 10" tablet. When I ditched the tab and went shopping I was struggling between the Xoom and the 10" tab. The guy showed me the Thrive. I played with it for almost half an hour. The price was right...and having reward point certificates didn't hurt either I transferred files over using my USB thumb drive which was cool. Haven't tried the HDMI yet. I've been thru a few devices and this is by far the best one.
I'm very satisfied with my Thrive.
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pcdebb said:
I wonder if people fear the Toshiba name? When I got my galaxy tab the Thrive had just come out. I had minor interest only because it was a 10" tablet. When I ditched the tab and went shopping I was struggling between the Xoom and the 10" tab. The guy showed me the Thrive. I played with it for almost half an hour. The price was right...and having reward point certificates didn't hurt either I transferred files over using my USB thumb drive which was cool. Haven't tried the HDMI yet. I've been thru a few devices and this is by far the best one.
I'm very satisfied with my Thrive.
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I love my Thrive too. Just purchased it last nite. Enjoying every minute of it. Still learning all the ins and outs of it.
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Just got mine today and I love it. Viewing angles are better than any tablet I had before.

Just got mine yesterday coming from the viewsonic g tablet. WOW what a difference.
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I love mine you should look into, Toshiba Thrive forum, lots of good information.
Sent from my Thrive, rooted and looking for more.

Love Thrive!!
I gave the NookColor to the kids for games, videos and Netflix after I purchased the Thrive AT100 on Saturday. Love it!!!!!!!!!!
I looked at a ton of different comparisons: Transformer, Jetstream, Galaxy Tab 10.1 & iPad2 vs. Thrive. None is a match!
From the standard SD slot, to the Full size USB & HDMI; to the great screen; nice weight and solid performance --- I'm in love!!!!!
I know the AT200 is out 'soon' so I'll upgrade then -- I have a 30 day return policy..... AT200 is a monster! Great job Toshiba! They came to the dance when they had a great product; rather be late to arrive then to be Dead-on-Arrival like so many others who came out fast with gen1 pieces of half-assed junk.
Love Thrive! I haven't even rooted; not certain I'll need to.
Cheers m8s.

Acer Quality

I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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Oh my! as much as I don't want to spend more money, I might need to THIS LOOKS TO BE QUITE AN UPGRADE ..
To answer your question Acer has good quality for the bucks in your bank. I like Acer as this is my fist Acer product matter in fact the only complaint I have is the microphone it stinks.. but if they have fixed that which I'm sure they have ill be sure to pick this up!
Thanks for the link!
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Mic isn't bad at all, just not very loud... Some voice chat programs (including skype and gtalk, unfortunately) mess things up, though, giving you weird background noises (not on all devices, though, it works for me). Other than that, the Acer devices are very well worth their money.

username235 said:
I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs

kjy2010 said:
If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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I agree 120% with this .. I have a birthday coming in MAY .. Giggles..
if my a500 does not get the support it should.. i might just wait and get a win 8 arm tablet.. and Dual Boot it .but there is always battery issues with windows . we will see what the tech word brings us in 2012.. for now my a 500 meets all the HAVE to have needs.. as if i really NEED a tablet.

Acer always seems to be giving the best bang for your buck, whether it is laptops or not tablets.
One gripe I have against acer is their bloatware. Some may like it but others (like myself) can't stand it.
Also keep in mind that acer is releasing the A200 soon. It's pretty much the same spec wise as the A500 but apparently has no rear facing camera. The pricing looks quite attractive though. I'm still happy with my A500. I actually have no desire to replace it with something newer and better, and I usually drool over the latest and greatest in technology.

I've had an a500 since november and the build quality is great. They have been providing adequate updates so far, and I expect them to provide ICS, but we will see.
Ive been wanting to get a second tablet bc my daughter always has this one and wouldn't hesitate to buy another acer.

Other than build quality ill be looking at development on market app as well as on xda
Gameloft and other game developers choose a500 as a flag ship for development another reason I choose this tablet over Asus, Samsung, and Mototrola. I contacted Gameloft before I picked up a 10.1 tablet around September and asked them what tablet to pick up they told me Acer Iconia because Acer has been the only company that was helping them out the most with developmental needs.. so of course when I went to best buy they were out of a500s and I had 300 bucks from trading in my Droid incredible and I didn't want to wait so I picked up the thrive because of the nice stuff included with it.. but ended up having nothing as far as xda & others so picked up tf101 loved it but it kept slipping out of my hands.. lol so bestbuy finally called me to tell me the Acer was in so I picked it up answer fell in love with it. So that my awesome story and we lived happily ever after
So I will most likely pick up Acer if top devs do aswell.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I still have plenty of time to think this over. Acer is definitely a huge choice now though, and I like this community, way friendlier than the original Asus Transformer. Back before the Prime came out, I made a thread like this, asking about Asus and what to expect in the tablets, and it was immediately hostile responses. Terrible, but glad I didn't have enough to buy that Prime, so much bad reports about it. My choices are now this A700, thanks to your responses and some research, and the Asus TF700T.
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Oh, also something else, is Acer good with the bootloader? Like is it locked, or is it somewhat easy to root? Not a big deal, but just curious
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Lol your welcome too root is simple as long as u dont update u will just install an app that do it 4 you but if you dont know much about rooting you better search thses forums
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The Acer bootloader does some checksumming and stuff that makes rooting hard on the newer FWs, but there's a rooting method around that works (downgrading isn't much of a problem). As has been said, just use the search.

Alright, I was just wondering though, different company's products usually have completely different rooting methods than others; I've only ever rooted all my HTC phones, but thanks.
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Just thought some would find this info helpful..
UPDATE: Looks like this is indeed the A700. The folks at The Verge managed to find the new Iconia Tab lounging around in Vegas and discovered that it's packing a 1.3GHz quad-core Tegra 3 processor and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as the aforementioned 1080p display. It's also got Bluetooth support, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI port. As far as release details go, the A700 is said to be landing sometime in the second quarter, but no other specific launch information is known just yet.