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Bootloader was too late

Hi
Does anyone else think that the bootloader release is just a bit too late. All our great devs have left just before it was released. Reason I say this is because the unlock has been around for a week and all I have seen is DooM making kernels. Z hasn't been seen and as for the others well. They moved on. Same for all our better cooks. What are other peoples views on this.
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Nope, to me, I consider it as an exclusive treat for the loyal X10 users.
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I agree, I havent even bothered unlocking mine as the old method is fine until something else worthwhile is released. I doubt we will get anything we dont already have.
Perhaps an updated kernel eventually but i cant see anything useful for me.
The X10 has got old fast, there are so many better phones out there now. Ive never been that happy with the x10. The features I find it has arent overly great. Its huge 8mp camera blows compared to other phones. Far to slow and annoying to focus. I use to use it alot when I first got it but dont ever touch it now.
I doubt the devs will be able to squeez much more out of there roms.

i want to see a rom thats as full to aosp as possible likegoogle version of android and then ill do mine

Blackwatch89 said:
Hi
Does anyone else think that the bootloader release is just a bit too late. All our great devs have left just before it was released. Reason I say this is because the unlock has been around for a week and all I have seen is DooM making kernels. Z hasn't been seen and as for the others well. They moved on. Same for all our better cooks. What are other peoples views on this.
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i think some people expect too much from the bootloader unlock.
The bootloader bypass gave us custom kernels and was a big step.
The bootloader unlock doesnt really give us much extra in addition to the bootloader bypass apart from a quicker startup time. Those people who just think bootloader unlock automatically gives us the ability to do 16m colours or proper multitouch are simply ill informed as to how this stuff works.

brent0r said:
I agree, I havent even bothered unlocking mine as the old method is fine until something else worthwhile is released. I doubt we will get anything we dont already have.
Perhaps an updated kernel eventually but i cant see anything useful for me.
The X10 has got old fast, there are so many better phones out there now. Ive never been that happy with the x10. The features I find it has arent overly great. Its huge 8mp camera blows compared to other phones. Far to slow and annoying to focus. I use to use it alot when I first got it but dont ever touch it now.
I doubt the devs will be able to squeez much more out of there roms.
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You guys got a point and I admit I had to agree with you. We may have not seen anything worthwhile for now, but I am very positive that there will be, if not many, one whole new thing we havent seen for our X10.
I'm not sure what happened to z, but everyone has their own life. Just hope that he don't leave us just like that.
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who knows what z has got cooking..
he always seems to pop out at times like these when hope and morale is down and be like "surprise I made the best thing ever"
lol

scoobysnacks said:
who knows what z has got cooking..
he always seems to pop out at times like these when hope and morale is down and be like "surprise I made the best thing ever"
lol
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I doubt he really is cooking something lol
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Didn't Z's phone break?? Anyway I think maybe now that bootloader is unlocked some old dev's might blow the dust off their x10's and come back even maybe part time lol you never know what could happen
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X10 will get official CM support and jerpelea is working on his CM rom and im sure zdzihu will comeback with something soon. Its not at all to late!
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I saw this same thing on MoDaCo.
I look at it this way:
If you have unlocked your bootloader, then you don't have to worry about losing xrec when you flash a faulty ROM/kernel. Since it's built right in, it's there to stay. That way you don't have to deal with going back to stock, rooting, and restoring backup from there.
Made testing things a bit easier, if anything.
Let's all support our devs in slow times. And if at all else, come together as a community, learn to cook, mod, dev, and things will pick up.
And as always: this is done for free* by regular, everyday, normal people such as yourselves that do this in their free time. I'm grateful for that.
*only exception is ad clicking to get to WB files via adf.ly due to his financial contraints (but it's time paid, not money)

Wolfbreak said:
X10 will get official CM support and jerpelea is working on his CM rom and im sure zdzihu will comeback with something soon. Its not at all to late!
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whats the chances of youmaking a rom thats similar to google version

-PiLoT- said:
i want to see a rom thats as full to aosp as possible likegoogle version of android and then ill do mine
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I am the process of making a fully aosp rom from source as we speak. Just finishing the download of the sources and then onto the build. Don't know if it will go well but I am using the tutorial videos by Ubuntu. The best Linux distro around. Maybe a week or two and I will release a fully aosp rom. Also I have to go e my thanks to achotjan for teaching me a few things. .
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Blackwatch89 said:
I am the process of making a fully aosp rom from source as we speak. Just finishing the download of the sources and then onto the build. Don't know if it will go well but I am using the tutorial videos by Ubuntu. The best Linux distro around. Maybe a week or two and I will release a fully aosp rom. Also I have to go e my thanks to achotjan for teaching me a few things. .
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Nice just the opposite of what achotjan does...
sammyjc89=Blackwatch89?
Why?
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What i need is working Dual touch but i will wait for it...

Hope it will be Multitouch or something like Kernel 2.6.32. MT if it's not hardware problem....

Blackwatch89 said:
...Ubuntu. The best Linux distro around...
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Welcome to the world of Linux my friend, there's no need keep saying the same thing again, and again. Just keep up the good work!
@DikeJ, FreeXperia is currently working on kernel 2.6.32 for a long time now(since before the bootloader was unlocked). About MT, search around the forums, AFAIK, Z said X10's digitizer supports MT, it's just that the phone is released on Android 1.6, which don't support MT.

@Hzu, good to hear. I know about creating 2.6.32, but about MT didn't heard anything before - very good info. So it's just a time to reborn again our X10's .
BTW - I will create topic on Devs forum - it will be gaming and the fastest ROM for X10 - I have hope . Stay tuned, after 21st .

DiKeJ said:
@Hzu, good to hear. I know about creating 2.6.32, but about MT didn't heard anything before - very good info. So it's just a time to reborn again our X10's .
BTW - I will create topic on Devs forum - it will be gaming and the fastest ROM for X10 - I have hope . Stay tuned, after 21st .
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Sounds cool and promising! Hope to hear from you soon!

Yes its to late for me. next week ill buy sgs2. Thingking of selling my x10 (so-o1b) ... sell or paperweight?
sent from my stock gb not rooted and no add ons.

sahibunlimited said:
Nice just the opposite of what achotjan does...
sammyjc89=Blackwatch89?
Why?
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What i need is working Dual touch but i will wait for it...
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Security perposes. Someone tried hacking one of my account but my software caught them. Shame I couldn't find them though. Anyways also I am a big fan of the 1st battalion blackwatch regiment. One of the hardest army regiments in the UK. Hey, gotta love the Scottish man.
-Pilot-
Please don't take that the wrong way. I think you lot are nuts but sound as f**k. Got a few mates from that regiment and they are hard as nails. Scary too
Anyways also it goes with my lifestyle too. I don't sleep due to health issues so I am a bit nocturnal you could say but I'm always on the lookout. Black-night, Watch-eyes open and 89 my yr of birth. Hope that helps you understand dude.
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x10 fans demanding se for ics.

all x10 fans should keep raining emails to sony ericsson company and demanding for ics update, the should update this phone, well if the strategy is to update all android phone, x10 is an android phone and was not in the list, plz we should rain emails and complains, all se android phones should be updated in addition for the x10.
all with me????
plz people i need ur support.
or even ics didnt work on x1o any updated version of android more than 2.3.3
support meee plz

Fat hope. They only said they will update all their 2011 android phones. It is sad, yes, but it is to be expected. No realist will be surprised that se is not updating the x10.

C'mon now be serious...
They gave us GB, and that I expected but this is just ridiculous.
It is end of life, sorry to tell you.
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PS no one EVER said every android phone is getting the update lol

well we should try.

scoobysnacks said:
C'mon now be serious...
They gave us GB, and that I expected but this is just ridiculous.
It is end of life, sorry to tell you.
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PS no one EVER said every android phone is getting the update lol
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I agree, i mean the phone is old, whoever wants ICS should start saving some money
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darkylight said:
well we should try.
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There's no point in doing this though...we don't even know whether the X10 can handle AOSP 4.0, and don't even say anything about SE's ICS, it would only make it more hardware demanding
And is it that hard to understand the number 2011?
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im closing thread
nobody wan't this for their daughters

Miss my vibrant

Well my vibrant finally bit the dust last week after running with a shattered screen for like 2 months...I'm using a friends back up phone now and its no Samsung....HTC mytouch 4g...:.not bad but I sure miss the touchwiz.....
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Touchwiz? heh...
You know you can buy a replacement screen for like $100 online and replace it yourself.
If you can assemble a PC you can do a phone.

MIUI with SGS2 theme and Touchwiz 4.5 apk shall calm the itch.
myTouch is an awesome phone IMO, u should try Virtuous Unity. Optimized Sense 3.0 ROM gives it so much life
sEnT fRoM mY ExYnOs PoWeReD MoNsTeR

Looking for a replacement, by chance?
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Yes I am but weighing in on how much I'm willing to spend on an outdated phone when I see how much people actually want for them.....
My contract with t-mobile ends in 7 months and I'm so not sure where it'll go from there....making it hard to spend a lot on another vibrant

Shortbus-Driver said:
Yes I am but weighing in on how much I'm willing to spend on an outdated phone when I see how much people actually want for them.....
My contract with t-mobile ends in 7 months and I'm so not sure where it'll go from there....making it hard to spend a lot on another vibrant
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I am in the same boat. Found the replacement glass for 100 but didn't see the point in putting the money into a phone that I was tired of. Ended up buying a used SK4G. It's a pretty nice phone. I like having an actual keyboard. Not very many ROMs for it though.

There's a shop in Tampa that replaces the screen(2 piece) for $110.Labor included...

I'll sell you mine for 225! It's in great condition! I got the galaxy nexus so I will probably put it on ebay very soon!

Sorry guys but I'm not really willing to spend more than about $50 maybe 75. on this phone otherwise id just prefer to spend a lil more and buy a new up to date phone....in my opinion the vibrant is worth no more than $150.
Not that I don't think its a great phone....cuz it is and I'm aware of that.....its just not worth it to me

Just went back to mine..... WP7 is good. But not worth it
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Just went back to mine..... WP7 is good. But not worth it
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Welcome back, rider missed you.

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theexel said:
Welcome back, rider missed you.
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LOL!!!
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Not only is this a quality post, but there is a re-post too of equal caliber. It's OK sometimes I get brain-lock too. Did you have a question or just a random thought/ re-think?

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Looks like someone is trying toge their post count up so they can post in the Dev section. Not cool!!! At least ask something. Chances are whatever is on your mind is in the Q&A section which has no post minimum.

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Lol what a tard.
Take a seat kiddo and buckle up.

Time to say goodbye

Hey all,
Today I'm unfortunately leaving the Xperia X8 behind, as much as it pains me to say this after being a part of the X8 forum for such a long time, I'm getting a HTC Wildfire S and I must admitt I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into it!
I'm always going to come back to you guys every once in a while to check in and see how things are going, simply because I'm far too attatched to this phone after bricking it 6 times, flashing countless amounts of ROMS, Kernels, Mods and even at one point, flashing themes back in the day.
I hope all goes well for the future development of the X8 because I can see a great amount of potential for our little phones and I hope everyone gets on O.K. with eachother, especially with some of the arguments I've seen around here.
Finally I'd like to thank all of the developers here, such as nAa, Doixanh, Paul-xxx, Racht and anybody else that I havent mentioned for their constant dedication and hard work to provide us with what Sony Ericsson never could and more, despite constant drawbacks.
Take care all!
Beans.
Sent From The Barrel Of My Gun.

My friend owns a HTC Wildfire S and boy am i glad i got the X8 the UI is pretty cool but the phone is just really laggy all the time lolz it gets about 1400 in AnTuTu. But i respect your choice and good luck with everything!!
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bye...another member gone....our x8 community is becoming shorter....more people are leaving
anyways bye....have fun with wildfire s
PS:why wildfire s....it has same specs as x8...no improvement...other than it has sense(i saw sense 3.5 on xda )

good luck friend!

Farewell bbeans

Damn everyone's leaving....
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RohinZaraki said:
Damn everyone's leaving....
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Yep, and I'm sad to say that I'LLC be leaving in exactly 1 month and two days.
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...My wife has a wildfire ...u think, that is the right choice? ??
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Well, have fun with your Wildfire S i hope everything works out.

RohinZaraki said:
Damn everyone's leaving....
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i know
its getting quiet
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IrishStuff09 said:
Yep, and I'm sad to say that I'LLC be leaving in exactly 1 month and two days.
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huhhh..... u too
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bbeanss said:
Hey all,
Today I'm unfortunately leaving the Xperia X8 behind, as much as it pains me to say this after being a part of the X8 forum for such a long time, I'm getting a HTC Wildfire S and I must admitt I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into it!
I'm always going to come back to you guys every once in a while to check in and see how things are going, simply because I'm far too attatched to this phone after bricking it 6 times, flashing countless amounts of ROMS, Kernels, Mods and even at one point, flashing themes back in the day.
I hope all goes well for the future development of the X8 because I can see a great amount of potential for our little phones and I hope everyone gets on O.K. with eachother, especially with some of the arguments I've seen around here.
Finally I'd like to thank all of the developers here, such as nAa, Doixanh, Paul-xxx, Racht and anybody else that I havent mentioned for their constant dedication and hard work to provide us with what Sony Ericsson never could and more, despite constant drawbacks.
Take care all!
Beans.
Sent From The Barrel Of My Gun.
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farewell mate
and all the best

Goodbye bbeans...
i m already leaving x8,still looking new phone...

Looks like you guys are going to have to deal with me for a few more weeks I'll never truly leave the X8 behind, I couldn't ever see myself giving it away or anything, Someone asked if the Wildfire S is the right choice and another asked why I'll be moving on to a phone that has more or less the same specs, well, I've been using my friends Wildfire S as a test phone for developers and being able to unlock the bootloader in a new way, have a whole new UI and more potential in development is just fascinating for me, i think it's going to be going quite far in the way of development, with MIUI Gingerbread and ICS already available, the possibility for Sense 4 and loads of other things, I just can't wait to get my teeth into it, I really think that the Wildfire S is a brilliant phone in comparison to how much you can buy it for, so yeah, personally i think that it's a brilliant choice in phone
Beans
Sent From The Barrel Of My Gun.

Even I would have to leave the community soon...because in 2-3 months I'll join a college out of town. My mom uses my old X8 so I cannot take it with me. Bitter truth.
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Rahat34 said:
bye...another member gone....our x8 community is becoming shorter....more people are leaving
anyways bye....have fun with wildfire s
PS:why wildfire s....it has same specs as x8...no improvement...other than it has sense(i saw sense 3.5 on xda )
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yeah, i think it's a wrong way to upgrade.
the advantage of wildfire s compare to x8, is only its big ram, 512mb.
cpu is the same.
about display, i think x8 is better
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HAKA said:
Even I would have to leave the community soon...because in 2-3 months I'll join a college out of town. My mom uses my old X8 so I cannot take it with me. Bitter truth.
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really?? before you go, you must left the superb rom for x8, again

bbeanss said:
Hey all,
Today I'm unfortunately leaving the Xperia X8 behind, as much as it pains me to say this after being a part of the X8 forum for such a long time, I'm getting a HTC Wildfire S and I must admitt I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into it!
I'm always going to come back to you guys every once in a while to check in and see how things are going, simply because I'm far too attatched to this phone after bricking it 6 times, flashing countless amounts of ROMS, Kernels, Mods and even at one point, flashing themes back in the day.
I hope all goes well for the future development of the X8 because I can see a great amount of potential for our little phones and I hope everyone gets on O.K. with eachother, especially with some of the arguments I've seen around here.
Finally I'd like to thank all of the developers here, such as nAa, Doixanh, Paul-xxx, Racht and anybody else that I havent mentioned for their constant dedication and hard work to provide us with what Sony Ericsson never could and more, despite constant drawbacks.
Take care all!
Beans.
Sent From The Barrel Of My Gun.
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take care bbeans ...

Im leaving the X8 community next month, but im always gonna remember the god'ol'X8 times
But im gonna keep my X8 and try roms on
X8 is great device, but I want something better so I think im gonna buy Arc S
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yes i like that,, good bro, thank you for my patient lady....

thanks from the newbie
i've just started my w8 with ginger dx, and someone is leaving? bye2 though we haven't get to know each others yet. thanks for all those great jobs here. wish u luck!!!!!

Farewell....and gud luck bbeanss

good luck and enjoy sir!

I9300XXDLG4 (4.1.1) - Improvements & Changes

Hi Guys
lets post the changes and improvements of the leaked JB firmware here...
many people are curious but at the thread of the leaked firmware its more info how to flash and keep root
so lets do it:good:

So far it's not working out too good for me.
1. Contacts keeps stopping.
2. Touchwiz keeps stopping.

did u wipe matey?

dogan2010 said:
did u wipe matey?
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Sure did..

thats indeed not good...
i dont have that problem what makes it so strange
maybe reflash?

dogan2010 said:
thats indeed not good...
i dont have that problem what makes it so strange
maybe reflash?
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I tried that too. Just gonna go back to ICS until there is a no-wipe official version.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30290997&postcount=159

noticed some changes, 4.0.4 ics to 4.1 jelly bean.

have samsung added the new widget features?

So far:
-Flashed, no brick.
-Not that smooth. Scrolling through contacts is jittery (actually the whole phone/contacts app is). Notification bar is too. Animations also jittery (even with GPU rendering)
-Can't comment on battery life, only had it on for 10 minutes.
-No significant changed, only slightly different notification bar, and some more settings in settings.
-Google Now is present, and use also the default 2-press home app.
-Camera is the same, not JB style where it's linked to gallery.
-Increases your flash counter
-Triangle Away is confirmed working by chainfire.

Viber is not support or it does not work on this update

It sucks that they didn't update the camera.

Camera has been improved, try taking pics in landscape mode supah sharp and tasty crispy
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Also camera recording sound has been improved!
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Camera has been improved, try taking pics in landscape mode supah sharp and tasty crispy
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Also camera recording sound has been improved!
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can you try and see if they updated camera firmware please?
tia.

radeonxt said:
can you try and see if they updated camera firmware please?
tia.
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First several hours of leaked rom and ur already crying? C'mon ... Build date is 31.july so there we don't know what
is changed,added, updated and etc...

nope no firmware updates im on gdfe01 and the firmware on the phone is gdff03
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anyone try the current ARHD that has the new JB base? if so, any issues in terms of the new base?
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First several hours of leaked rom and ur already crying? C'mon ... Build date is 31.july so there we don't know what
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from what part of my post was i crying you idiom?
i was just asking the guy who already flashed jb and said the camera improved.
i just wanted to ask what the camera fw is now because the mexican dude wasn't able to show much and the posts of other people in jb thread all had contact fc topics.
that way if the camera fw was updated too then that is one of the reason why camera pics have improved like that poster said.
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nope no firmware updates im on gdfe01 and the firmware on the phone is gdff03
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@idiom, well there you go. i respectfully asked this guy and he replied.
@jody, thanks.
:victory:

Don't start bashing something that is unofficial and is in beta stage.
Remember that this is a leaked test-only ROM, and not the final product. Officially, you aren't even supposed to be using this ROM.
There's no way for us to know what parts of that ROM is still under development or what is final; what has been been ported to JB or what has been kept from ICS so it can barely work.
So, stop being naive and saying that "this and that don't work". Of course it doesn't, otherwise Samsung would've made it an official release.
Besides, this ROM was supposedly built on July 31st, so it's 16 days old. A lot might have been changed already in the ROM Samsung has under development. Not only that, but we're still 13 days away from the supposedly planned date.
I will risk a guess here, that JB won't be available on Aug. 29th: Samsung has NEVER met a deadline before, at least one that's been annouced publicly.

Simonetti2011 said:
I will risk a guess here, that JB won't be available on Aug. 29th: Samsung has NEVER met a deadline before, at least one that's been annouced publicly.
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Actually then Samsung has no worries. Samsung has NEVER announced the 29th of Aug. as the date of release for jb for sgs3. This is a date made up of speculation, but for some reason all the n00bs now think that because they heard it on the INTERNEZZZ then that date is official.
Prove me wrong and show me where ANY official Samsung source says Aug. 29th or even any date at all......
Sorry but Sammobile is not official. Nothing but some random dude with a website posting firmwares so not official.
Random mobile phone internet sites is for sure not a reliable source and never has been. I've always said. If you heard it from a internet site then you can be sure it's not true when it comes to rumours. They will grab any chance and will say anything and grab any rumour and make an article about it just to get visiters to their sites.
But it looks like it's getting worse and worse with the "I heard on the Internezz that this and that" so it must be true.........Only thing we can be sure of is...... IQ dropped rapidly in the past few years among mobile phone users........