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If you didn't already hear, the press conference between AT&T and Samsung was not for the Galaxy S II. It was of course for the Infuse 4G. This will be the first of AT&T phones to be capable of up to 21Mbps, assuming you are in an area where the cell towers have fiber backhaul in place.
That being said, there is another press conference from Samsung(and Samsung alone, no carriers mentioned with it) that will take place May 24th. This is what people are presuming to be the Galaxy S II, and takes place exactly 11 months after the press conference for the original Galaxy S line.
Now, my question to all of you is, if you are in serious need of a phone, what do you think is the best choice to do in this situation? I have all lines available for an upgrade, starting tomorrow, as this will mark 11 months after, which makes me within 30 days of my 1 year mark of this contract, and the guy at the AT&T store said I can do the upgrade if I am within 30 days(I said that confusingly, but it made sense in my head, so I hope you all understood).
I am sitting here with a Motorola Backflip, the slowest and worst phone you could ever want. Okay not true, but I think I'd rather have a simpler phone with its own random OS that runs smoothly on it since it would be designed for it. So I want to get a new phone ASAP, but I really would like the Galaxy S II. Should I just go ahead and get the Infuse 4G since I am desperate? Or do you think it would be worth waiting for Galaxy S II? I have multiple upgrades, so I may just get the Infuse for now and still get Galaxy S II when it comes, but at that point I would have to pay for it. If I just wait for Galaxy S II, I won't have to pay, but I'd be without a good phone for a while, and it's already been long enough. I think that I may end up being fine with the Infuse, but the GSII seems so nice, I'm gonna want it anyway.
I'm kinda trying to save up my money, I get a couple hundred every two weeks, but I end up spending a lot, and a phone would cost me a whole paycheck.
Anyways what do you guys think on this whole situation, whether it's about the May 24th press conference, or what phone I should get, or whatever.
The infuse will be an afterthought. It runs 2.2... it'll have little dev support and tweaking/upgradability will be much less likely. Old hardware as well except for the screen and 4.5" is just too big imo.
Wait for the SGS2
if you look at the at&t facebook page..the 24th showcase may be for tablets..not sure if its for sg2. i have it marked down tho..but i would try out the infuse. you said you have multiple upgrades..so why not.
defnow said:
if you look at the at&t facebook page..the 24th showcase may be for tablets..not sure if its for sg2. i have it marked down tho..but i would try out the infuse. you said you have multiple upgrades..so why not.
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Yeah it's just if I wanna have to spend money or not cause if I just choose one then I personally don't have to pay anything.
See which upgrade on AT&T can be sold on ebay for max $ and use that $ to buy the SGS2.
Well if I buy one, then switch to another later, I will have to give the other one up for another person in my family.
jackleung said:
See which upgrade on AT&T can be sold on ebay for max $ and use that $ to buy the SGS2.
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That's exactly what I did. I bought an Atrix for $99 from Best Buy and sold it on eBay for $470. I used the profit to help me pay for my new S2!
Oh, and as a bonus since I had the unlimited data plan with my old 3GS the Best Buy rep called AT&T and asked them to keep me grandfathered on that plan. I thought that was pretty cool.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hands-on-2/
it might not be all doom and gloom. BGR got a gs2 to test out last night at the event
boondoc said:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hands-on-2/
it might not be all doom and gloom. BGR got a gs2 to test out last night at the event
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interesting
but I think they were just given a UK model to play with - in the limited shots I saw no ATT icons anywhere, no logo on the front and no physical customization to the design - all things AT&T LOVES to do and DOES in most cases
i'm starting to think you get off on being a negative nellie
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i'm starting to think you get off on being a negative nellie
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me? that is egregious, preposterous and outrageous. hope you meant someone else.
As to May 24 samsung announcement,I think that gs2,will be the U.S debut,and tmo gets our phone,if look through some forums the gs2 was be coming to tmo 1st anyway,ATT GOT INFUSE,WE GET THE BIG BANG.
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Actually the whole GS2 on T-mobile USA rumor started when t-mo accidentally responded to a tweet about the GS2 and they confused it for the GS 4G... they corrected themselves but the rumors had already spread.. I would love this device on T-mobile or Sprint.. but Sprint is just getting around to releasing the Nexus S 4G... not a bad phone but when it wasn't cutting edge when the original was announced last winter..
The outrageous price of the Droid Charge ($299 for those of you who haven't been following) will likely extend the life of the Fascinate (in terms of developer and user support), IMHO. Those who haven't either added the Thunderbolt to their arsenal (Adrynalyne, ThatDudeButch, etc.) or jumped ship altogether will likely find the price point for the Droid Charge to be rather prohibitive (again, just my opinion). Is 4G a must-have? The Thunderbolt is $50 cheaper on a 2-year contract. Don’t want to give up your Super AMOLED screen? I recommend waiting for the Galaxy S II (There WILL eventually be a CDMA version for Verizon).
Here's a quick comparison: With the Galaxy S II, you...
...Get the same screen upgrades as the Charge (Super AMOLED Plus, 4.3 inches)
...Add another cpu core, bump both cores up to 1.2 GHz
...Nearly triple your RAM (328MB for the Charge, 1024MB for the S II)
...Upgrade your software to Gingerbread (the Charge comes with Froyo out of the box)
... Last, but not least, upgrade to TouchWiz 4.0 (the Charge has 3.0 - I'm sure you're all here on XDA because you LOVE stock TouchWiz ).
Meanwhile, just enjoy your Fascinate (you probably have to wait a few months before you're upgrade eligible, anyway - the S II will probably be out by then).
Anyone have a different opinion? Does anyone feel compelled to get your Charge on now? (you still have to wait as of May 6 thanks to Verizon's LTE problems pushing back the Charge's release date - sound familiar, Thunderbolt owners?) Do tell...
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well I would agree the charge is hardly an upgrade and I normally would wait untill the galaxy S II comes out BUT as someone who works directly on the sales floor with verizon, I can see the 4g data being either tiered or capped soon(MY PERSONAL OPINION). so to answer your question yes I will happily pay 300 bucks for my droid charge just to ensure I will be able to keep my unlimited plan while on 4g as well and then upgrade to galaxy s II when it comes....just my two cents
Fascinates are free at Best Buy on Fridays & Saturdays (with a 2 year contact, of course...)
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Is 4G a must-have? The Thunderbolt is $50 cheaper on a 2-year contract.
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You'd be a fool to pay $50 less for a Thunderbolt. $100+ maybe. $50 about covers the spare battery you'll need to carry around all the time if you ever use LTE.
The anti-Charge FUD in this group is pretty sad and fear-driven. You have it totally backwards: the continuing release of Charge ROMs by Samsung guarantees a probably-backportable source of Android updates for the Fascinate. Embrace the Charge.
You left out "Dump vzw for another carrier" from your poll.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
You left out "Dump vzw for another carrier" from your poll.
good day.
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This! I'm seriously contemplating going to AT&T myself
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This! I'm seriously contemplating going to AT&T myself
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Be prepared for the 2 gig cap on your data plan
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I really have a dilemma...
I cracked the screen on my fascinate last month... It still works perfectly, but I hate looking at the spiderweb on my screen.
I can put an insurance claim in and for $100 get a new Fascinate... or
Im due for an upgrade... So, I can simply get a free Fascinate now, but that locks me in for 2 years... or
stick with the current (Broken Fascinate) for a few months.
By then, Im hoping there will be other 4G phones to choose from and they wont have capped the plan by then.
Decisions. Decisions.
This is kind of a silly poll, as it leaves out some major releases. The Charge and the Thunderbolt are not the only new Spring phones for Verizon. The Droid X2, the Xperia Play, and the LG Revolution will all be out by the end this month.
I will wait another year for Quad Core phone
It doesn't matter what any of these prices are.
If you wait, you'll find a free deal.
This is why I won't upgraded until the holidays.
(this is how I got two fascinates for myself and my wife, Best Buy's free phone friday's last october)
rushfanx1 said:
I really have a dilemma...
I cracked the screen on my fascinate last month... It still works perfectly, but I hate looking at the spiderweb on my screen.
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I'd do the other option you didn't name, just fix the one you got. Changing the screen out isn't that hard and will run you less than a new phone. Ebay has the parts as do other sites.
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I'd do the other option you didn't name, just fix the one you got. Changing the screen out isn't that hard and will run you less than a new phone. Ebay has the parts as do other sites.
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http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Samsung-Fascinate-SCH-i500-s/6505.htm
rushfanx1 said:
I really have a dilemma...
I cracked the screen on my fascinate last month... It still works perfectly, but I hate looking at the spiderweb on my screen.
I can put an insurance claim in and for $100 get a new Fascinate... or
Im due for an upgrade... So, I can simply get a free Fascinate now, but that locks me in for 2 years... or
stick with the current (Broken Fascinate) for a few months.
By then, Im hoping there will be other 4G phones to choose from and they wont have capped the plan by then.
Decisions. Decisions.
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I bet you could get a "factory refurb" Fascinate for less. Last I saw it was on vzw.com for $39 (with contract, but I can't believe you wouldn't be able to work out a deal on this angle).
Protonus said:
I'd do the other option you didn't name, just fix the one you got. Changing the screen out isn't that hard and will run you less than a new phone. Ebay has the parts as do other sites.
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I thought about that, but I think its more than just the glass cracking... I actually had done some research and when I saw that I would need a heat gun, i said forget it
I just put my claim in with Assurion. For $100, i get a brand new phone... Being that I got the original for free from Best buy back in Oct, the $100 isnt bad... And, I still have my upgrade.. So, in 3 or 4 months, I'll upgrade to the best 4G phone and give the fascinate to my wife or kid.
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I really have a dilemma...
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The LG Revolution will be out soon... granted, it doesn't have AMOLED, but it will have 4G
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well I would agree the charge is hardly an upgrade and I normally would wait untill the galaxy S II comes out BUT as someone who works directly on the sales floor with verizon, I can see the 4g data being either tiered or capped soon(MY PERSONAL OPINION). so to answer your question yes I will happily pay 300 bucks for my droid charge just to ensure I will be able to keep my unlimited plan while on 4g as well and then upgrade to galaxy s II when it comes....just my two cents
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The LG Revolution 4G phone is expected to be released May 12, according to www.phonearena.com. I don’t know what Verizon will charge for it, though. If it's $200, it may be worth giving up the AMOLED screen (personally, the AMOLED screen is a must-have for me).
By the way, the Charge is $50 cheaper at Wirefly on contract (if you aren't upgrade eligible and you're looking at paying the unsubsidized price, go to Verizon directly - Wirefly charges $100 extra for off-contract)
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s44 said:
You'd be a fool to pay $50 less for a Thunderbolt. $100+ maybe. $50 about covers the spare battery you'll need to carry around all the time if you ever use LTE.
The anti-Charge FUD in this group is pretty sad and fear-driven. You have it totally backwards: the continuing release of Charge ROMs by Samsung guarantees a probably-backportable source of Android updates for the Fascinate. Embrace the Charge.
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True, but we don’t know how bad the battery might be on the Charge (it might be called the Droid Recharge if you have to charge it too often )
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True, but we don’t know how bad the battery might be on the Charge (it might be called the Droid Recharge if you have to charge it too often )
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Check the Engadget review (and others). Battery life is actually good, even on LTE.
If the Revolution really does come out in a week, and Verizon doesn't kill unlimited by then, it may be a good choice. Thunderbolt isn't unless it's at a big discount.
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Check the Engadget review (and others). Battery life is actually good, even on LTE.
If the Revolution really does come out in a week, and Verizon doesn't kill unlimited by then, it may be a good choice. Thunderbolt isn't unless it's at a big discount.
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Yeah... a good choice depending on how much they charge for it... the Revolution got a pretty good review at Phone Arena. It may be the split-the-difference choice - hopefully cheaper than the Charge, longer battery life than the Thunderbolt.
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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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If your iphone is in good shape and unlocked, sell on ebay for loads of cash. Purchase a sgs2 for 700-750. Still will be able to use your unlimited plan.
But I really dont see SGS2 on ATT anytime soon.
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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You'd be wrong, twice. It does indeed work on AT&Ts 3G/"4G" bands [unlocked]. Its also called the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the attic. While quick, MotoBLUR is garbage.
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I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I've messed with an Atrix. Seemed OK. Not spectacular though. I have a friend who actually returned his for the HTC Inspire (and loves it). That doesn't speak well to me. Plus EVERYTHING I've seen about the SG2 proves it's definitely the cat's meow (currently).
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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Appreciate it, friend.
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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It's not just about the specs, those specs translate into REAL world performance differences. The SGSII has not even had the slightest hiccup with web browsing... regardless of how many windows are open, how many graphics are in each window, etc. My SGS, while great when it came out, easily got bogged down, and multi-window browsing was never a truly usable feature. Given the Infuse is has almost identical specs to an SGS, I predict it will have similar issues.
People keep thinking these specs being listed off are only for geeks, but once in a while, they do relate to real world usability and performance differences. And when they do, they are QUITE significant.
The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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Sorry about the startle. I changed the title of the thread.
I am just frustrated (as are many I'm sure). I'd like to offload my iP4 before the value drops too much (iP5 release). Unfortunately, I'm unable to go without a phone and I am really nervous about a gray market item. Hell even an unbranded Samsung direct phone would work for me. I'm going to have to pay full price anyhow.
Yeah, I think ATT will get the SGS2 with LTE.
Use the fuzzy math I used to convince myself the phone was only $475. $800 - $325 (sold G2) = $475 Can you really put a price on whipping your phone out and gathering a crowd around to see it for a couple of months? My take on buying an import is you spin the wheel and take your chances. If you buy it in the UK, Samsung U.S. will service it. If you buy from Expansys they'll ship it back to the UK for you for service. How long you're without a phone is probably the biggest concern. If you use a credit card with buyers and/or warranty protection you'd have a back-up that will at least get you your money back. Go ahead, you know you want to do it
The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
I bet the event is for sgs2 variants. Nexus s doesn't warrant a bug event just like here in Canada it came quietly on all carriers. No big announcements. Many peope don't even know it lol.
The phone is been out a month and is at&t compatible. The event is def. about something more exciting
I'm in the same boat here, too. However after my experience with the Captivate, and the shoddy quality control of its hardware, and the still-present GPS woes and color-banding issues on the SGS II, it seems Samsung rushed yet another product to market and perhaps these extra couple months we'll have to wait will be well worth it in the end.
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The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
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Could be the Tab 8.9 though.
I was wondering what could be that of the SGS II that recently went through the FCC with AT&T only bands?
I hoping the announcement on the 25th will be that Samsung will sell the GS II unlocked in the states and working on AT&T's network just like Google does sell their Nexus phones.
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Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Go to "USA May 24th announcement" thread to discuss this, I think I mentioned pricing there, or I may be wrong.
I think there is no way the phone will be more than $250 with a 2 year contract on AT&T. My opinion (based on 12 years of buying AT&T phones on 4 lines) it will be around $250, before or after $50 mail-in rebate, depending on when it is getting released. Maybe just straight forward $200 with no rebates if it is released in the fall.
I am opening this thread in hopes it will keep other threads cleaner. Motorola did not update to ICS. we know that.
One suggestion I have is JUMP ship. get a different device. You can get a pantech bust for about $100 on ebay with official ICS. I got a galaxy note for $150 myself. The atrix still goes for around $100.
I still have my atrix as a backup phone.
suggestion 2 keep going the rout of requesting cooperation from moto/punit etc. Yes you may feel it is falling on deaf ears and you may be correct.
My main suggestion and point of this thread is please stop posting about this in every atrix thread on XDA. THese threads are to help the atrix community and people must now search harder to find what they are looking for because they must wade through post after post of motohate then post after post of bickering at other members.
please keep our threads clean
if you have any suggestions of what can be done or good deals on alternative phones post them here
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About jumping ship. I do realize that my suggestion does not help those with all the docks and accessories as much. I do not know what the docks sell for. And I can't speak of the quality of the burst. I do know it requires a smaller sim card. I was just suggesting it as a means to swap for a device with similar specs that is on official ICS with no major cost in the end. I am pleased with the quality of my note but I realize that I got it almost $100 less than average used price
I cant buy another phone...I dont have the money and I have a contract with an operator...and the note in my country cost a lot much than my atrix...so any other sugestion???
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I am in US and realize I got a great deal on note. And Also realize that even buying burst even though it has little cost in end has upfront cost of nearly 100 US. I am on straightalk att sim. I am still burnt by moto. I have a nonupgradeable device that is still under manufacture warranty so I don't want to get rid of it yet. hopefully more people will have suggestions as well
I sold my Atrix for a good price ($200) without the lapdock.
then again, I sold it to someone who asks me everyday about how to do stuff, so I consider the extra price as a bonus for all the things I've helped him with.
I got a Note and never looked back. Never again, Motorola. Never.
Still, I'm stuck with an Atrix because my boss has it and he always wants a different ROM. It's a good phone. Such a shame Motorola was backing it.
Well...in my country (argentina) a new atrix on a contract cost 1800 pesos argentinos and a Note on a contract cost 3500 pesos argentinos...so if I want to buy it w/o a contract the note cost 5000 pesos argentinos.
So Im f***...thats why I still pushing moto or punit to release the source code...
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AT&T has their own trade in program and currently they value my device at $36. Obviously that's a bit on the low side, but the reality is that something is only worth what you can sell it for, whether that's $10 or $100, and ebay is loaded with them, especially after the ICS cancellation.
That said, I'm stuck in a contract with mine for the next few months with no way out and no money to jump ship. Once opportunity does present itself, I will have to see what's available at the time, but tbh, this was my first true smart phone, yet I'm still feeling stupid for getting it.
Get a phone used that is older than the 4g and has been upgraded to ICS.
My thoughts are you have always been able to upgrade your PC, laptop and other computers at will. Why are phones and tablets any different?
I think the answer is simple: greed. There have always and only ever been excuses that all point to controlling consumer options and taking away freedoms in order to accomplish a bottom line.
For that, I do not believe buying another device will matter. We always end up supporting someone's idea of controlling my content. Screw that. I bought the device, I should be allowed to install what I want. Not what ATT or Motorola or Apple or even Google wants but what I want.
OK, done ranting.
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I do not know how it is in the rest of the world but in the US craigslist is a good source for used phones. as with anything though there are also scammers out there. It was sad to see atrix price drop after ics cancelation. I think they went for almost 200 before to 150 after and now about 150. I got my wife a nexus 7 recently. I know it will stay updated but felt a bit bad purchasing from Motorola parent company Google.
My Atrix is just the latest in a long line of attempts to get a good deal for cheap that partially failed. Got my Atrix just before the announced cancellation of the update. Only good thing is I'm not stuck with a contract. I would have made another phone choice, if I'd jknow was being lied to my Moto.
For me its not so much about them failing on the upgrade. Its more about moto actively trying to keep us from getting ICS or any other rom on our own. Locking bootloaders on updates and ordering cease and desist on the leaked kernel. Its a big FU right in all of our faces. I just can't believe a company would actively do this to their customers, not even their regular customers... the enthusiast. makes no sense to me, before the atrix moto is the only phone company I would have. Now its the only one I refuse to buy.
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For me its not so much about them failing on the upgrade. Its more about moto actively trying to keep us from getting ICS or any other rom on our own. Locking bootloaders on updates and ordering cease and desist on the leaked kernel. Its a big FU right in all of our faces. I just can't believe a company would actively do this to their customers, not even their regular customers... the enthusiast. makes no sense to me, before the atrix moto is the only phone company I would have. Now its the only one I refuse to buy.
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On top of money and carrier contracts we may be stuck in, there's also the issue of carrier compatibility. For those of us with AT&T, I'm sure there are devices they don't offer that will work, and some may even have full capabilities, but when it comes to their current offerings, it's pretty slim pickings, regardless of what OS you want.
my brother asked me today if he could use a s3 from sprint on att. I said sadly no. would be nice since sprint phones always seem to go for less money. probably because they have a worse network. I told him to buy it anyway because they wanted 150 for it and I know it is worth more even if the esn is bad. I have been watching for a good used dual core that is updated for my wife. I am not in a hurry because I want a deal. she has atrix as well for now. been looking at lg nitro and s2 s3 onex. probably some others
I picked up a pantech burst for my wife yesterday for 65$. waiting for simcard cutter. dual core and ICS. plus I can still sell atrix for more than that
Haven't been on XDA for a while. What am I missing? There's plenty of stable Jellybean ROMs around.
Fingerprints a gimmick and you can get a camera app. How good do you want your phone camera to be anyway?
Not being inflammatory but get a ROM and enjoy it until your phone dies a natural death.
In fact mine died and I brought a new one for cheap, that's how happy I am with Th3bills Liquid Smooth.
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Blame Google they control moto now.I got a new phone few weeks back still have my atrix themed all out sweet sits home on WiFi still want to update the kernel in it learning a new phone now am support is dieing on the atrix..
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Haven't been on XDA for a while. What am I missing? There's plenty of stable Jellybean ROMs around.
Fingerprints a gimmick and you can get a camera app. How good do you want your phone camera to be anyway?
Not being inflammatory but get a ROM and enjoy it until your phone dies a natural death.
In fact mine died and I brought a new one for cheap, that's how happy I am with Th3bills Liquid Smooth.
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I've got a new phone. i717 note on cm10. a pantech burst on official ics. and will soon be playing with a HTC desire that will have fully functional jellybean. I like playing with these old phones then selling them for more than I paid. and my atrix got replaced under warranty and there is no way as of now to unlock the bootloader.
Even when/if a new kernal is built my atrix is locked. Mine will most likely be sold soon but I want to try the soak test first. Might keep it for a while though as it is under warranty
if there’s a time machine，i would choose Nexus S rather other than Atrix 4g. The crude reality slapped my face，how foolish i was.
Hi guys
I think like quite a lot of buyers I was originally deciding between the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S4. They're both great phones in their own different ways, but after the delays and other setbacks for HTC, I was worried that the One might get sidelined like the One X last year.
Anyway, having just seen the Galaxy S4 prices (around 580 pounds), I think there's a small ray of hope for HTC. Although it's still expensive, the 32G One offers great value for money. Hopefully this will give consumers something to consider before they rush out and buy the S4.
Of course I don't doubt the S4 will still sell like hotcakes, but at least in these early weeks and months HTC will be able to offer (in my opinion) a better price/performance ratio versus the 16G Snapdragon S4 variant. I hope HTC can capitalise on this opportunity.
P.S. I don't intend this as flamebait, so moderators please feel free to lock or delete this thread if it gets out of hand. I just thought it's nice for HTC to have some good news for a change
There's no news here. :/
Dharkan said:
There's no news here. :/
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Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead, I just thought the competition's higher prices will help to give HTC and the One a little more breathing room.
I really hope HTC push a really good marketing campaign for this phone, it really does deserve it. I still see so many posts on fbook with people asking "S4 or iphone5 which should i buy" everytime i mention the HTC One and its as if no ones ever heard of HTC before...
- Adam
Misleading thread title: please change it.
Along with this it seems HTC are actually trying to push some marketing out....(There's a thread somewhere about it in here) In the UK there's TV adverts showing up pretty regularly. Which I'm pretty sure I've not seen from HTC before. Really hope things go well for them this year!
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Along with this it seems HTC are actually trying to push some marketing out....(There's a thread somewhere about it in here) In the UK there's TV adverts showing up pretty regularly. Which I'm pretty sure I've not seen from HTC before. Really hope things go well for them this year!
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If HTC spends a lot this time in marketing this beautiful phone they could really benefit. The old saying, "It takes money to make money" is so true for them.
You want to know why Samsung is the #1 best selling phone in the world? They spend the most marketing dollars than anyone in the business to be there.
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No matter how much we fans of the HTC One want it to succeed and do better than the s4, it won't happen.
Samsung is a beast on marketing and it will kill the sales of the HTC one, especially here in the states due to the delay and basically coming out at the same time as the s4.
Just how it will be, its inevitable.
Also here in the states on T-Mobile, they both will be 99$ down payment and believe 580 total. So no difference in price.
Its unfortunate, but a reality.
With that said, more than likely I will be getting an HTC One, if I can keep holding out. Really like the Note 2 as well.
Sent from a galaxy far away!
For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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Sprint's pricing will more than likely be at $199, and T-Mobile has already confirmed it's availability of the 32GB model at $99. AT&T will follow suit from either of those. As far as pricing, HTC does have a good chance to make a difference here.
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For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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Yep, after reading the GSM Arena comparison yesterday, I have been starting to lean a little towards buying the Samsung. If Sprint has the One $50 cheaper and I can get another $100 on an HTC buyback, that would almost certainly be enough to get me to stay with the One.
Funny thing about the GSMArena S4 review though - in the comparison they said that the S4 has a better audio output than the One, but whereas in the One's review they've published their standard audio frequency test, in the S4's review it was surprisingly no where to be found, nor even mentioned.
Biased?