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[Q] LauncherPro Plus keeps refreshing - possible SD Card issue?

I wasn't sure where to post this so I hope this will do...
All of a sudden today my MT4G with LauncherPro Plus keeps refreshing or restarting or something on the home screen. Sometimes it does it every minute or so other times it does it so rapidly the home screen isn't even showing up before it does it again.
Worst part aside from the annoying bright flash every time it happens is that it kicks me out of apps to do it.
It's not a Force Close and no errors pop up it just refreshes to the Home screen as if I hit the Home button or restarted LauncherPro.
I am so confused.
I have no new apps recently, but I did Root a few days ago using The Unlockr's Visionary root.sh method. Had no problems when doing it and phone has been fine since until this. No custom ROM yet, still on Stock 2.2.1 while I research which one I want to get.
I already wrote to the LauncherPro people who thought it might be because Keep in Memory was checked, but it isn't checked so no help there.
There was one point when I unmounted my SD card to put it in the pc to get to the files because this issue kept kicking me out of Astro and I couldn't get anything done. And while the card was out, it did not do it. As soon as the card was back in though it started up again.
Sometimes restarting LP will help, but other times it will make it go more frequently. So frustrating.
Can anyone help or at least point me in the right direction. I have a video of it if that will help to post it, but it doesn't show much, just the home screen restarting several times. Also happy to provide any more info anyone thinks might be helpful it stopping this.
Thanks so much!
Jen

Uninstall it then reinstall it can't u back up your settings if so when reinstall restore settings hopes this helps
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Yes, I have my settings backed up and I've tried to uninstall it, but I can't stay in the market or manage apps long enough to do it, it keeps kicking me out. Is there another way to get to the uninstall screen for it?

This is way to Uninstall a app from pc you have to have adb install on your computer before doing this. blog.artuc.net/how-to-uninstall-android-applications-via-your-computer/
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Tez MyTouch said:
This is way to Uninstall a app from pc you have to have adb install on your computer before doing this. blog.artuc.net/how-to-uninstall-android-applications-via-your-computer/
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OK thank you very much I will check that out tomorrow. Don't want to try something new half asleep. LOL

Uninstall didn't work :-( it's still doing it. Not quite as frequently but bad enough I am still getting kicked out of apps. I'm wondering if it is even a launcherpro issue since I never had a problem before yesterday. Any and all suggestions, help, advice and ideas welcome. I'll try anything this is driving me crazy!

Lol try the Uninstall method but instead install another launcher then press the home button to choice the newly installed launcher and see if that works ?
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Tried ADW Launcher and it did the same thing :-( Guess it is not LP after all. I put LP back and reboot. As of now it is not doing it, but I am very afraid to reboot or do anything in case it starts up again LOL
Can't help wondering if when I flash a new ROM it might stop altogether...

is this issue solved?

aaronsuarez95 said:
is this issue solved?
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It seems to be. After I did a nandroid backup it did it a few more times then I reboot and it hasn't done it since.

Sorraia3 said:
It seems to be. After I did a nandroid backup it did it a few more times then I reboot and it hasn't done it since.
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ever tried wiping cache + dalvik cache then fixing permissions in recovery?

aznprodgy said:
ever tried wiping cache + dalvik cache then fixing permissions in recovery?
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I have cleared the app caches, but I do not know how to do the rest.

Sorraia3 said:
I have cleared the app caches, but I do not know how to do the rest.
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well depending on what ROM you have installed (Im assuming stock froyo after reading the OP), just run the ROM Manager app and then "reboot into recovery". from there, the recovery screen comes up. you can then "wipe cache partition", then "advanced>wipe dalvik cache". finally, "advanced>fix permissions" and after its done you can then reboot your phone. this USUALLY fixes a lot of problems with FC's and other issues

aznprodgy said:
well depending on what ROM you have installed (Im assuming stock froyo after reading the OP), just run the ROM Manager app and then "reboot into recovery". from there, the recovery screen comes up. you can then "wipe cache partition", then "advanced>wipe dalvik cache". finally, "advanced>fix permissions" and after its done you can then reboot your phone. this USUALLY fixes a lot of problems with FC's and other issues
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Update: It has continued to do it, not constantly, and seemingly randomly, but yeah, not totally fixed. Going to flash the new CM7, trying to fix other issues, maybe that will help.
I did try your above advice, wiped the caches, fixed permissions... it was stable for a few days then started up again. Really bad at first, like I wasn't even seeing the screen before it flashed again repeatedly. That was about a week or so ago... Now it is still doing it but every couple minutes instead. I mostly don't notice it unless I am in one of the apps it kicks me out of when it happens. Really really annoying. hopefully the new ROM will help.

Has anyone else been having this problem or found a solution. I've been trying to flash a new ROM this weekend, but can't stay in any apps long enough to prepare the phone for it. Titanium Backup and ROM Manager keep closing because of the launcher restarts. Not force closes, they just exit out and go back to the home screen which just keeps refreshing. I can't stay in Apps2Sd Pro long enough to move apps, can't stay in the market to update apps, and can't uninstall anything, I can't even stay in Astro long enough to do anything. It's driving me insane and I really want to make sure as many apps as I can are moved to the SD card and backed up to flash the new ROM. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[Q] Sooooo Sloooowwwwww

Over the last month or two, my A500 has really started dogging it. About four minutes to boot, apps load and run slowly, even uninstalling an app can take two to three minutes. I'm about ready to do a full app backup with Titanium and wipe and re-root, unless anyone else has any ideas.

ThatGeekGuy said:
Over the last month or two, my A500 has really started dogging it. About four minutes to boot, apps load and run slowly, even uninstalling an app can take two to three minutes. I'm about ready to do a full app backup with Titanium and wipe and re-root, unless anyone else has any ideas.
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First I would like to recommend My backup Pro. Its totally worth the buy and you don't have to install each app one at a time saying yes to install each and everyone. Everything just loads all back in at one time and then you reboot. Its awesome.
Second. why go to all that trouble? Why not just format/factory wipe from Clockwork Mod and reinstall the ROM you are running? Losing root and then obtaining it again is not really worth doing IMHO.

also while your spring cleaning, look around in your android secure folders and look for app data that was left behind after uninstalls, I did that and got a bunch of space back
If I only had programming experience an app that would remove old data would be gold

Turboboxer said:
First I would like to recommend My backup Pro. Its totally worth the buy and you don't have to install each app one at a time saying yes to install each and everyone. Everything just loads all back in at one time and then you reboot. Its awesome.
Second. why go to all that trouble? Why not just format/factory wipe from Clockwork Mod and reinstall the ROM you are running? Losing root and then obtaining it again is not really worth doing IMHO.
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I'm not running a custom ROM, I'm still at:
Ver 3.1
Kernel 2.6.36.3
Build Acer_A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
I didn't take the OTA update to 3.2 and lose root, which I use for Titanium and a few other programs. I am considering going to one of the ICS ROMs since they're looking pretty stable.

Turboboxer said:
First I would like to recommend My backup Pro. Its totally worth the buy and you don't have to install each app one at a time saying yes to install each and everyone. Everything just loads all back in at one time and then you reboot. Its awesome.
Second. why go to all that trouble? Why not just format/factory wipe from Clockwork Mod and reinstall the ROM you are running? Losing root and then obtaining it again is not really worth doing IMHO.
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Titanium pro does this as well for a long time
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Seems if you used a backup app to backup all your apps, including some that may be rogue or mis-behaving, it seems you would just install them all back, thus not fixing the issue.
Also, old performance scripts and tweaks may be tweaking your tab, but not exactly in the way you wanted. I would suggest removing them and check performance.
A good fresh format and a clean install is the way to go. Install apps "one" at a time till you see a performance drop.

There are also already rooted versions of 3.2.1 available.
Once you start a clean up, maybe a good opportunity to upgrade also to the new version. This would be installed by CWM

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ThatGeekGuy said:
Over the last month or two, my A500 has really started dogging it. About four minutes to boot, apps load and run slowly, even uninstalling an app can take two to three minutes. I'm about ready to do a full app backup with Titanium and wipe and re-root, unless anyone else has any ideas.
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if you are on stock rom
i recommend you to use titanium backup pro and cleanup your dalvik cache.
then you could use es task manager in start up optimizer section you can disable un needed services it would shorten the boot time.
but i think the best thing is to install a custom kernel with over clocking features alongside.
with 1504 over clocking your tab will fly

The Most Clean Installation Possible.

Hi guys,
"Do I need to make a full wipe?", I see this question asked over and over on development thread. And the developers patiently answer all the time. Well you can stop asking, here is the answer.
There is a lot of reason why you should do a full wipe.
1-) It prevents FC's, bootloops, gives better battery life and reduce other unexpected problems.
2-) By trying to save a little time you might end up with problems, loose a lot of time try to fix them, and finally making a wipe anyway to solve your problems.
3-) Some people just flash over their old ROM and then complain that the new ROM is buggy or Android plainly sucks. I don't think it's fair to blame hard working people(who gives you FREE products) for your own lazyness.
So why not do it right from the begining and save some time to everybody. Here is the procedure that I use(Thanks to Memnoc and DarkAdrien.) and is the most clean installation possible.
Memnoc and DarkAdrien's original post was created for battery optimization, I only re-wrote the steps that involve flashing a new ROM.
This will work with every Rom but some ROM's might ask for extra steps (fix permission, etc..), read instructions first.
1- Make backup of your current ROM. (no need to do this everytime, I keep one backup of my favorite ROM)
2- In recovery go to "mount & format" and format system.
3- Format data.
4- Format cache.
5- Go to Main menu and do "Wipe data/ Restore"
6- Wipe cache partition.
7- Go to Advance and wipe calvik cache.
8- Flash your new ROM ONLY. (IMPORTANT: Wait after #10 before flashing anything else)
9- Reboot
10- (This step might not work between ICS/JB or between AOKP/AOSP/Samsung)
Go back to recovery and in Backup choose "Advance restore" and then choose "restore Data". -Reboot again
(if you have problem with some apps, you might want to uninstall them before the backup and reinstall them the normal way after #10, or you can use Titanium Backup to test if they work well in the new ROM)
# 2-3-4 are not doing the same thing as #6, Read original post bellow for explanation.
This whole process from 1 to 10 should take you 15 minutes. From 2 to 7 should take less than 1 minute.
Your phone will have a very clean ROM and all your apps, contacts, SMS, games, etc... will be exactly like they were before.
I've flashed over 50 roms using this procedure and it always work fine.
Memnoc original post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808932
DarkAdrien original post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
If it helps please says thanks.
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You obviously don't have 20+GB of data to backup/restore each time...

Kremata said:
making a full wipe is ALWAYS better.
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Then, by your own admission it is not always necessary. "better" ≠ "necessary"
If posters were clear that it is only recommended, not necessary, then no one would need to ask the question in the first place.
I've seen posts telling people to do a wipe when upgrading from official stock to another official stock. There is absolutely no need for that except in the rarest of circumstances.

full wipe is only required if there are major changes in the new rom to be flashed or the user is facing any trouble in his previous roms. Unless otherwise its a waste of time.

That list is a little excessive and needs to be tuned down. When you flash a rom it already formats everything except for "system"
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bala_gamer said:
full wipe is only required if there are major changes in the new rom to be flashed or the user is facing any trouble in his previous roms. Unless otherwise its a waste of time.
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Question.
I've been using LI5 for quite sometime without any problems, and a couple of days ago suddenly the phone started showing signs of sluggishness.
Even moving between the screens of Apex launcher seemed to be quite jerky. I tried uninstalling some apps etc (thinking they might have caused some memory leak or something), to no avail.
Just wanted to ask, will a full wipe and reinstall solve this problem? I'm planning to restore all my apps back.

I upgraded from stock ICS to stock JB, then through three more JB revisions.
I have yet to perform a wipe and everything is running great!
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g4rvd4 said:
Question.
I've been using LI5 for quite sometime without any problems, and a couple of days ago suddenly the phone started showing signs of sluggishness.
Even moving between the screens of Apex launcher seemed to be quite jerky. I tried uninstalling some apps etc (thinking they might have caused some memory leak or something), to no avail.
Just wanted to ask, will a full wipe and reinstall solve this problem? I'm planning to restore all my apps back.
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If a normal flash dosent work good go for a full wipe
《swagged from aokp》

kilrah said:
You obviously don't have 20+GB of data to backup/restore each time...
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20gb data? Your apps use up to 20gb? o.0....
bala_gamer said:
full wipe is only required if there are major changes in the new rom to be flashed or the user is facing any trouble in his previous roms. Unless otherwise its a waste of time.
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Yeah true but seriously I hope they tried wiping before they complains problems like tons of apps fc... Really annoying...

tanjiajun_34 said:
20gb data? Your apps use up to 20gb? o.0....
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Nanodrois backups can be up to 4 gbs or more.
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g4rvd4 said:
Question.
I've been using LI5 for quite sometime without any problems, and a couple of days ago suddenly the phone started showing signs of sluggishness.
Even moving between the screens of Apex launcher seemed to be quite jerky. I tried uninstalling some apps etc (thinking they might have caused some memory leak or something), to no avail.
Just wanted to ask, will a full wipe and reinstall solve this problem? I'm planning to restore all my apps back.
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I had the exact problem, same launcher too, a full wipe sorted it. Restored apps with titanium and now I'm flying.

kilrah said:
You obviously don't have 20+GB of data to backup/restore each time...
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Your telling me you have 20gb of ROM+APPS?

SlimJ87D said:
Nanodrois backups can be up to 4 gbs or more.
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No but 20gb+ When did your phone has so big data partition?
unless you telling me you backing up your sd cards as well which is pointless..

irish-sid said:
I had the exact problem, same launcher too, a full wipe sorted it. Restored apps with titanium and now I'm flying.
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Cool.
Which ROM btw?

tanjiajun_34 said:
No but 20gb+ When did your phone has so big data partition?
unless you telling me you backing up your sd cards as well which is pointless..
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Well I'm sure if we think it over there can be plenty of reason why someone doesn't have room for backups if they are a flashholic, loves music, games and always on the go.
Who knows, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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I have a 16GB phone and an 8GB card and, as of yesterday, they were full to the brim.
So- yes! People can have that much data.

Just one question................. Do I need to do a full wipe?
I'm sorry I just had to, but pretty much the rule is if the Android version is the same a full wipe is not needed, if it's an upgrade to the same android version ex 4.0.1 to 4.0.2 there is a chance you will need a full wipe, if the android version completly different ex 2.3.6 to 4.0.1 or 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 there is a good chance you will need a full wipe.
The exception is stock ROMs are usually designed as no wipe, therefore they have been designed so you shouldn't need a full wipe, but if there are any problems, like lag, or bootloops you should wipe, but it is not always needed.

Aughhhhh.
I've been quiet for a while and nice and peaceful.
Feel.....anger.....rising.....must....resist....temptation......
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g4rvd4 said:
Cool.
Which ROM btw?
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Check Rom 5.5
DeadSOL said:
I have a 16GB phone and an 8GB card and, as of yesterday, they were full to the brim.
So- yes! People can have that much data.
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I have my music, pics, nandroids, titanium backups and the Rom I'm about to flash on my exSd. I pull the card out, wipe the phone clean, Stick it back in, flash rom, restore apps. Very quick easy process.
If you're that anal then you should save up and invest in a 32gb sd card or whatever bigger is available. We'll all need one eventually

Kremata said:
I don't see the reason why someone would not make a full wipe?
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Developers sometimes label their ROMs as "No wipe". Whether you feel this is accurate or not, don't be surprised when folks don't wipe.

[Q] Updated to 4.1.2. -> my unit is acting crazy

Hello all,
I have updated yesterday to 4.1.2 (using the nakasi JRO03D file flashed via CWM)
Initially all went well (although I get consistently a weird message when booting up: something about office suite stopping unexpectedly), but when I tried to use moonreader this morning my unit crashed. Then I experimented a bit more - as a result the unit froze completely and did not come back to life until I plugged the USB cable in (battery level is 40%)
Various apps are also crashing (office suite for example does not work any more).
Anyone else having problems after 4.1.2. install? Is there a fix?
Please advise...

Fix would probably be a complete wipe. Possibly a Fix Permissions if you are rooted.

Nospin said:
Fix would probably be a complete wipe. Possibly a Fix Permissions if you are rooted.
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How do I do a complete wipe? In CWM? Then reinstall?
I am rooted and unlocked
(Sorry I know this is a stupid question - please be patient)

Gadgetguy2005 said:
How do I do a complete wipe? In CWM? Then reinstall?
I am rooted and unlocked
(Sorry I know this is a stupid question - please be patient)
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Just boot into CWM
Wipe data/factory reset
Fix permissions
Reboot
You will lose all of your apps and data, so I recommend using something like ROM toolbox to backup your apps.
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Towle said:
Just boot into CWM
Wipe data/factory reset
Fix permissions
Reboot
You will lose all of your apps and data, so I recommend using something like ROM toolbox to backup your apps.
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Thank you, will do!

Gadgetguy2005 said:
Thank you, will do!
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For future references would be nice if you post your rom and kernel (or stocked). I guess =D

I havent seen any issues with this.
Did you use the normal release from Google?
Or a 4.1.2 from a User compiled update?
I also have Officesuite and it didn't come up with any errors, although I didn't open any of my apps as I have to rush the install then run to college
I only tested the homescreen rotate HAHA !

Wilks3y said:
I havent seen any issues with this.
Did you use the normal release from Google?
Or a 4.1.2 from a User compiled update?
I also have Officesuite and it didn't come up with any errors, although I didn't open any of my apps as I have to rush the install then run to college
I only tested the homescreen rotate HAHA !
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I think it was the normal release - it looks like everybody else was using the same file. I have removed officesuite and I still have random complete freezes. So maybe it was not office suite...
After playing a bit more (trying to do backup of the installed apps etc.) - now the unit prompts me for a password to decrypt my storage (during boot). I have not seen that before (and I do not have installed a password.). So I think all I can do is a complete wipe and start from scratch...
Not sure what went wrong...
Will do factory wipe tonite to see what happens.

Got rooted, installed custom recovery, lost root, now i'm confused...

So I used the Auto CF root and all went well. Next, I went back into recovery and installed the TWRP Recovery though odin. It installed fine. After that I noticed I no longer had root and I can't figure out how to get it back. Supersu was still installed, it just wouldn't work.
At this point, i've tried redoing the root process a couple of times and it says that it worked fine, but doesn't do the job. Anyone got any ideas on what to do?
If anyone's curious, I started on totally stock OTA MF9.
Thanks

Just flash one of the stock rooted mf9 ROMs in the development thread pic one with no data wipe so you don't have to set everything up again.
SGS4 Sent

ifly4vamerica said:
Just flash one of the stock rooted mf9 ROMs in the development thread pic one with no data wipe so you don't have to set everything up again.
SGS4 Sent
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Thanks for the tip. Downloading the odexed version of this. Slow download so almost 2 hrs left.
[ROM][ZIP]Stock Rooted Deodexed/Odexed MF9 with SuperSU/Busybox 1.20.2
Hopefully it works. I tried wiping cache and dlvik cache and now when i turn the phone on it just keeps giving errors that this and that app can't open so the phone is essentially unusable. Didn't think wiping cache would do that.

Yeah sometimes things just go screwy. Have you tried fixing permissions? While you wait for a download you can wipe cache davlik and fix permissions its in the advanced menu of twrp. The odexed with no data wipe should fix you up I would recommend wiping cache davlik and system before you flash it. If it still gives errors you may have to wipe the data also and start fresh. You can also try TWRP version 5.0.2 if you aren't on it there is a flashable in the dev forum also. Some people have reported issues with the newer version. I think you will be fine flashing that stock odexed ROM though.
SGS4 Sent

Out of curiosity, would there be any danger in installing a custom rom while my phone is in this state? Downloading Blu Kuban Rom and it's going to finish much earlier than the stock rom. I know I would lose all my apps and need to reinstall those.

iivisionii said:
Out of curiosity, would there be any danger in installing a custom rom while my phone is in this state? Downloading Blu Kuban Rom and it's going to finish much earlier than the stock rom. I know I would lose all my apps and need to reinstall those.
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Nope no danger at all. In fact I recommend blu Kuban. Its a nice ROM. Just do a full wipe of system data cache davlik and preload before flashing to avoid issues. All the custom ROMs have root built into them so you should be good to go.
SGS4 Sent

ifly4vamerica said:
Nope no danger at all. In fact I recommend blu Kuban. Its a nice ROM. Just do a full wipe of system data cache davlik and preloaded.
SGS4 Sent
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Thanks. I'll have an update soon. Either that or a panic attack and a question in roughly 30-45 minutes.

Did you try to install super SU from the market. Maybe super user is acting up on you.
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daniel4653 said:
Did you try to install super SU from the market. Maybe super user is acting up on you.
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I tried installing supersu from the market. Next I even tried downloading it to my phone and loading the zip in recovery. No go both ways. I hoped wiping cache and delvick cache would help, but instead the phone is pretty much unusable now. It's really weird.

iivisionii said:
I tried installing supersu from the market. Next I even tried downloading it to my phone and loading the zip in recovery. No go both ways. I hoped wiping cache and delvick cache would help, but instead the phone is pretty much unusable now. It's really weird.
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Here goes that frantic post. I installed the rom, worked fine. I did one of the updates for the status bar, now whenever it goes to boot it gets stuck at the samsung galaxy s4 screen. I've tried doing a full wipe, wiping cache and delvick cache and even trying to install the stock rooted rom or the blu rom on top of itself and i still get the same thing. Any ideas? I'm trying not to be too flash happy because I don't want a brick.

iivisionii said:
Here goes that frantic post. I installed the rom, worked fine. I did one of the updates for the status bar, now whenever it goes to boot it gets stuck at the samsung galaxy s4 screen. I've tried doing a full wipe, wiping cache and delvick cache and even trying to install the stock rooted rom or the blu rom on top of itself and i still get the same thing. Any ideas? I'm trying not to be too flash happy because I don't want a brick.
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Have you tried the battery pull trick once frozen?

ObrienDave said:
Have you tried the battery pull trick once frozen?
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I finally got out of the boot logo. I looked around the forums and found someone with a similar problem. Seems the recovery wasn't deleting all the files for him so he deleted everything manually instead of just wiping. I did the same and installed triforce rom and it's booted now.
Just for future reference though, would you mind explaining or pointing me to where I can read about the battery pull trick?

iivisionii said:
I finally got out of the boot logo. I looked around the forums and found someone with a similar problem. Seems the recovery wasn't deleting all the files for him so he deleted everything manually instead of just wiping. I did the same and installed triforce rom and it's booted now.
Just for future reference though, would you mind explaining or pointing me to where I can read about the battery pull trick?
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Basically, quite a few people have recommended pulling the battery once frozen.
Even when you do a power off, you are NOT completely removing power from the system.
Disconnecting the power is the only way to accomplish this.

ObrienDave said:
Basically, quite a few people have recommended pulling the battery once frozen.
Even when you do a power off, you are NOT completely removing power from the system.
Disconnecting the power is the only way to accomplish this.
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Ah ok. Good tip to know. I had tried that and it didn't work. Seems to be working ok now. I'm gonna be careful not to screw it up cuz its already 1 am, hehe. Thanks for everyone's tips.