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How to go from a custom rom back to stock without a backup?

So, my stock nandroid backup has failed me. I am on Slimbean right now and I like it, but I would like to flash back to stock until all the kinks are worked out. How can I get back to stock touchwiz? I'm not exactly sure what a deodexed ROM is, but it is my understanding that Wallet does not work on one so I would like to be on a ROM that allows wallet.

Floppy454 said:
So, my stock nandroid backup has failed me. I am on Slimbean right now and I like it, but I would like to flash back to stock until all the kinks are worked out. How can I get back to stock touchwiz? I'm not exactly sure what a deodexed ROM is, but it is my understanding that Wallet does not work on one so I would like to be on a ROM that allows wallet.
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You could either use Odin to flash the stock rom and be back at square 1, unrooted. Or you could flash crawrj's odexed rooted rom, and Google wallet works on that. Just read up on disabling SEAndroid so you don't get the nag.
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k2buckley said:
You could either use Odin to flash the stock room and be back at square 1, unrooted. Or you could flash Crawrj's odexed rooted rom, and Google wallet works on that. Just read up on disabling SEAndroid so you don't get the nag.
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That is just what I was reading now. I'm probably going to flash that. I do understand it doesn't come with a kernal, so if I'm on Slimbean can I just wipe and flash the odexed rom over that kernal? If not, how do I get the stock kernal back to flash over?

Floppy454 said:
That is just what I was reading now. I'm probably going to flash that. I do understand it doesn't come with a kernal, so if I'm on Slimbean can I just wipe and flash the odexed rom over that kernal? If not, how do I get the stock kernal back to flash over?
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Good point. Flash Shabbys custom kernel, it's linked in that same thread (crawjr's). So wipe, flash odexed rooted rom, flash kernel. You will need to freeze that SEAndroid app though, don't forget about that.
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k2buckley said:
Good point. Flash Shabbys custom kernel, it's linked in that same thread (crawjr's). So wipe, flash odexed rooted rom, flash kernel. You will need to freeze that SEAndroid app though, don't forget about that.
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Alright, so I can flash both at the same time? Also, how do I freeze the app? Just disable it in the settings?

Floppy454 said:
Alright, so I can flash both at the same time? Also, how do I freeze the app? Just disable it in the settings?
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I used titanium backup to freeze it. You need the pro version to do that though
EDIT: Someone just informed me that the app is in the system/app directory, and is called KNOXAgent.apk. So I supposed you could try deleting/renaming that to disable it without using Titanium backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41344748&postcount=134
And yes, flash the rom and then kernel in the same recovery session. You currently have an aosp kernel, so I'd doubt it boots if you tried to boot before flashing the kernel.
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Did you have any success?
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Failing Update

Hi everyone, there is a 1.8mb update for android 4.3. Mine always fails. At first I had CWM and IN HERE I switched to TWRP and it's not working again! Please help
Rooted, Stock rom, TWRP recovery

You need stock recovery also
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Zehlek said:
You need stock recovery also
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Why the stock recovery? And how I do that?

alipashang77 said:
Why the stock recovery? And how I do that?
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you have made alterations to your phone so its not longer stock. the file you are flashing is for a stock rom and to be flashed in a stock recovery. to flash the update simply re-flash a stock recovery and allow the update to go through. you can also simply wait and flash an updated custom stock rom.
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Edit2: Using the toolkits you should be able to find the stock recovery image and flash it back

playya said:
you have made alterations to your phone so its not longer stock. the file you are flashing is for a stock rom and to be flashed in a stock recovery. to flash the update simply re-flash a stock recovery and allow the update to go through. you can also simply wait and flash an updated custom stock rom.
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I got the idea, ho do I re-flash the stock recovery? any easy way?

alipashang77 said:
I got the idea, ho do I re-flash the stock recovery? any easy way?
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Try the toolkits you would need the stockrecovery image

Backing up Galaxy s4

Hey guys
Quick question here guys, im a complete noob on android. Ive rooted my phone, and have installed greenify, titanium backup, and clockworkmod recovery software. I read somewhere i should have made a back up copy before rooting. Is it too late to unroot, or can i still do it now? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers

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xBeerdroiDx said:
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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awesome thanks, just did it and it worked fine!
thanks

xBeerdroiDx said:
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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Is it too late to make a backup if I've done all that stuff? Wow I've got gaps in my knowledge as a noob.
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Wittyusernametaken said:
Is it too late to make a backup if I've done all that stuff? Wow I've got gaps in my knowledge as a noob.
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If your already rooted and have MDL/MDB bootloaders and a custom rom you can make a nandroid backup at anytime. This is good practice whenever switching Roms performing a backup before flashing a new rom. It gives you something to restore in case you have issues with the new rom or just don't like it and want to be back to where you were before. Think of a nandroud backup as an ISO IMAGE where everything is saved/restored exactly like the point you made the backup.
Now if you WANT to save a backup if the stock firmware right after you rooted it then no you cannot just do that easily. To do it you will need to Odin back to the stock firmware (MDB/MDL firmwares) then re root your phone, make a backup, then flash the Roms you want.
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RockRatt said:
If your already rooted and have MDL/MDB bootloaders and a custom rom you can make a nandroid backup at anytime. This is good practice whenever switching Roms performing a backup before flashing a new rom. It gives you something to restore in case you have issues with the new rom or just don't like it and want to be back to where you were before. Think of a nandroud backup as an ISO IMAGE where everything is saved/restored exactly like the point you made the backup.
Now if you WANT to save a backup if the stock firmware right after you rooted it then no you cannot just do that easily. To do it you will need to Odin back to the stock firmware (MDB/MDL firmwares) then re root your phone, make a backup, then flash the Roms you want.
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Well darn. I'm running stock mdl. Haven't tried a custom rom because I don't have a external storage card, not to mention after using Titanium and greenify and whatnot I've pretty much got it how I want it at this point. Oh well live and learn. Thank you for the information. There's so much I'm trying to learn post iPhone 5.
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Updating from MDL

I tried to figure this out and I'm lost. I've not been keeping up with development on this phone for a while. I'm currently on stock rooted MDL, stock recovery. I'm looking to move to rooted current stock rom. How do I go about this. As simple as just putting a new recovery on and flashing the new one? Or do I need to be careful of anything?
Feels weird to be out of touch with how everything works now.

cegna09 said:
I tried to figure this out and I'm lost. I've not been keeping up with development on this phone for a while. I'm currently on stock rooted MDL, stock recovery. I'm looking to move to rooted current stock rom. How do I go about this. As simple as just putting a new recovery on and flashing the new one? Or do I need to be careful of anything?
Feels weird to be out of touch with how everything works now.
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You need to put a custom recovery on. Then flash the ROM in the recovery. Since you're rooted you could use goo manager to put twrp on
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jd1639 said:
You need to put a custom recovery on. Then flash the ROM in the recovery. Since you're rooted you could use goo manager to put twrp on
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If that's it awesome. Reading about the latest stock roms I was just confusing myself and thinking there was some new BS to deal with.

cegna09 said:
If that's it awesome. Reading about the latest stock roms I was just confusing myself and thinking there was some new BS to deal with.
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Just FYI, if on i337, get familiar with loki-doki and when you need to flash it--:good:

I am in the same boat. Have tried goomanager and rom manager but both failed to load recoveries. It seems they have moved on to 4.4.2 kitkat and no longer work with 4.2.2 MDL. Have also tried to find .tar files for older recoveries and flash with ODIN but no luck. Afraid to OTA update from AT&T and get MK2. Any help would GREATLY be appreciated.

capti2 said:
I am in the same boat. Have tried goomanager and rom manager but both failed to load recoveries. It seems they have moved on to 4.4.2 kitkat and no longer work with 4.2.2 MDL. Have also tried to find .tar files for older recoveries and flash with ODIN but no luck. Afraid to OTA update from AT&T and get MK2. Any help would GREATLY be appreciated.
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Not sure but can you unroot and reroot with Adam's Motochopper. It installs twrp. Maybe JD can confirm that.
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rugmankc said:
Not sure but can you unroot and reroot with Adam's Motochopper. It installs twrp. Maybe JD can confirm that.
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I can confirm from the short time i was on MDL that CASUAL does install TWRP.

DeadlySin9 said:
I can confirm from the short time i was on MDL that CASUAL does install TWRP.
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Thank you for the advice . It worked like a charm.

capti2 said:
Thank you for the advice . It worked like a charm.
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Glad you got it--you can now flash custom recoveries from recovery. I like twrp 2.5.0.2
Don't try goomanager anymore--not needed
There are a couple files to delete so you don't get auto updated. Some have Update in name and one has FOTA. I don't have them in front of me atm
Get a nandroid asap and put copy on pc too
Plus backup efs

Just one last check before I try and mess with things tonight. Since I'm on MDL still, to install a new current ROM (like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556), all I need to do is:
- install a custom recovery (TWRP 2.5.0.2 looks like the most recent)
- backup
- full wipe
- flash new ROM
I shouldn't have to mess with any of the safestrap stuff correct?
Just trying to be cautious.

cegna09 said:
Just one last check before I try and mess with things tonight. Since I'm on MDL still, to install a new current ROM (like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556), all I need to do is:
- install a custom recovery (TWRP 2.5.0.2 looks like the most recent)
- backup
- full wipe
- flash new ROM
I shouldn't have to mess with any of the safestrap stuff correct?
Just trying to be cautious.
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No SafeStrap. Backup should include System. Make sure to read OP and last few pages of thread for any new info. Make sure ROM doesn't need loki-doki. Most in att forum don't. What recovery are you on now?
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rugmankc said:
No SafeStrap. Backup should include System. Make sure to read OP and last few pages of thread for any new info. Make sure ROM doesn't need loki-doki. Most in att forum don't. What recovery are you on now?
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Thank you.
I thought I was on stock recovery, but checking just now apparently I put OUDhs CWM Touch Recovery v1.0.3.4 on sometime in the past year. I'll either go to the latest version of CWM or TWRP before doing anything.

cegna09 said:
Thank you.
I thought I was on stock recovery, but checking just now apparently I put OUDhs CWM Touch Recovery v1.0.3.4 on sometime in the past year. I'll either go to the latest version of CWM or TWRP before doing anything.
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If you are on a custom recovery, you "should" be able to flash this thru recovery--if you want it--:good:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yhrq0tia8512rj9/AAB_scBnDHWPcg_w2UXw3V5ha/TWRP_Flashable-2.5.0.2.zip

rugmankc said:
If you are on a custom recovery, you "should" be able to flash this thru recovery--if you want it--:good:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yhrq0tia8512rj9/AAB_scBnDHWPcg_w2UXw3V5ha/TWRP_Flashable-2.5.0.2.zip
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awesome. Again thank you.
I'll play with things tonight and see how it goes.

cegna09 said:
awesome. Again thank you.
I'll play with things tonight and see how it goes.
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How did everything go? Im on MDL rooted custom rom and really want to get back to stock rooted. I know I dont need to do the same process as you but I was curious how things went.

Does NANDROID backup/restore kernel?

I want to try another kernel.
Can I then restore the stock one using nandroid, or will I have to flash the stock rom again?

GrihanOs said:
I want to try another kernel.
Can I then restore the stock one using nandroid, or will I have to flash the stock rom again?
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I think it will restore the stock kernel as it gets the device into its previous state completely.
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GrihanOs said:
I want to try another kernel.
Can I then restore the stock one using nandroid, or will I have to flash the stock rom again?
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yes it does, while taking backup a section calles 'BOOT' is there . that is your kernel.

Yes, ir will. Just remeber to backup the "boot" partition.

GrihanOs said:
I want to try another kernel.
Can I then restore the stock one using nandroid, or will I have to flash the stock rom again?
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Use flashify app to backup your stock kernel. I just found it.
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