Hey guys,
I know that there are some threads about this topic are floating around here but I could find a thread described with a class 10 card - what is faster? installing Android on NAND or install on SD (Class 10?)
Thaanks
Robin
nand will always be faster than sd method, regardless of card speed class
The fastest is neither..ram build is the fastest
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A RAM Build? Oo ;D
NAND is faster, besides SD Builds have lots of bugs
regards
Thanks Will continue to use my NAND Build
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A RAM Build? Oo ;D
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an sd build thatloads on and runs from ram..like the darkstone ram build or mdj gingerbread ram build
aah thanks for clarification But I think WM is required, right? Nope Ill stay with my good SD Build
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But I think WM is required, right?
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Required for what?
If you delete WM , install a brand new Android Version (2.3.5 maybe with HTC Sense) you dunno need Wm anymore.
The fastest way is a NAND Rom with Apps on SD (on a fast one, like your class10 sd card).
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Hello all.
I am using DL_DesireZ v3.x at the moment, whis is Froyo with Sense 2.0.
According to the instructions I've partitioned my SD card to 3 partitions, one 6.5GB FAT32, one 1GB ext4 and another 512M ext4.
So far, this has been the stablest and fastest non-nand ROM for me (I can't get rid of WM because I need to use iGO and Garmin from it) but I'd like to get some of the updates and functionalities that came with Gingerbread, and since I do like Sense, I want it as well.
So, can somebody tell me is there any GB+Sense3 build for HD2 that is SD based and which can use ext3/4 partitions for data2sd or whatever it is called exactly?
Thanks.
aprunic said:
Hello all.
I am using DL_DesireZ v3.x at the moment, whis is Froyo with Sense 2.0.
According to the instructions I've partitioned my SD card to 3 partitions, one 6.5GB FAT32, one 1GB ext4 and another 512M ext4.
So far, this has been the stablest and fastest non-nand ROM for me (I can't get rid of WM because I need to use iGO and Garmin from it) but I'd like to get some of the updates and functionalities that came with Gingerbread, and since I do like Sense, I want it as well.
So, can somebody tell me is there any GB+Sense3 build for HD2 that is SD based and which can use ext3/4 partitions for data2sd or whatever it is called exactly?
Thanks.
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Hi,
Is it here:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
malybru said:
Hi,
Is it here:
android.hd2roms.com
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Weeel, that was a revelation of sorts...
Anyhow, after checking all of those builds, two things are clear:
- most of them are not for SD
- Sense 3 builds are far from stable & working
What do I mean?
It seems than NAND frenzy has taken strongly among HD2 owners for whatever reason they want to get rid of WM6.5, so most of the builds are stated as NAND.
There are some that are marked as ROM-ZIP...what are those?
On the other hand, I know that there are roms that are to be used with MAGLDR and some (if not all) can be used as a normal SD build, with haret, data.img and so on.
One example is the one I'm using right now, DL Desire, which comes as a NAND version and as a SD/MAGLDR version.
So how can I tell if a certain MAGLDR rom is usable as a SD build as well? Is it possible at all, as a general rule, if an author of a build does not explicitelly state so?
The second thing is more problematic, and is obviously kernel and hardware related.
Sense3 builds have graphic/camera problems (mutually) and also problems with some widgets (weather), boot menu, lock screen etc.
I've tried MccMBoxmaX GS V5.0 and was really surprised to see it work pretty good and fast (albeit with no apps installed) disregarding mentioned problems with graphics etc.
Since there is no build yet that has all the things fixed, I believe I should try an older ones with the latest Sense version before Sense3.
But which one is it? 2.1? And do they come in combination with Gingerbread as a base and what builds have that combination, also for SD and possibly using ext2/3/4 partitions?
I hope I'm not boring, but I've tried a bunch of different roms for SD with and without partitions support and now they are getting more and more rare and the whole "list of builds" has become so long and confusing that I just don't know which ones support what and which ones are for what...
Hi,
What you will have noticed,is that sd is not that well supported.
If you need to keep WM,then you are going to struggle to find very much.
Have you tried the American droid for sd?
A lot of people rave about it...
Try This rom
but it need ext on sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694
It's fast and stable till now for me
have you looked in the sd development section?
Hah!
It came out of the blue....just a few days ago I downloaded V5 where I saw all those mentioned Sense3 problems and there's V6 already...
Gotta get it today...
Oh yes, BTW I'm following SD devel thread constantly so I know what's going on there...and I still need helping info...
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aprunic said:
Hah!
It came out of the blue....just a few days ago I downloaded V5 where I saw all those mentioned Sense3 problems and there's V6 already...
Gotta get it today...
Oh yes, BTW I'm following SD devel thread constantly so I know what's going on there...and I still need helping info...
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Oh yes, I forgot, I'm talking about MccM BoxMax V6 that Dr.Hisham mentioned...
Working pretty well, although some problems have been discovered like BT not working, graphics glitches etc...although, it is pretty snappy even though it is Sense3 (2.1 actually).
But, it seems it will take some time to fix everything and so I'm opting for the following: SD build with ext partitions for data2sd, with Gingerbread and last version of Sense before 2.1 (2.0.x?) - anybody knows anything about those?
Guys, anybody with anything?
SDcard Gingerbread builds with pre-2.1/3 Sense for HD2?
What is the best stock CM7 Nand rom?
Also MAGLDR vs cLK?
SD VS NAND? (i know the technical differences one off SD one actually in memory, but is one better than the other if i have no use for WM)
pappasmurfsharem said:
1 What is the best stock CM7 Nand rom?
2 Also MAGLDR vs cLK?
3 SD VS NAND? (i know the technical differences one off SD one actually in memory, but is one better than the other if i have no use for WM)
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Hi,
1 check my sig...guide number 1
2 check my sig...guide number 2 and read the thread...
3 If you have no more use for WM ,then NAND is a no-brainer.
Thanks sir.
can i make a ics for NAND and a GB Rom for SD?
thanks !!
marcolo76 said:
can i make a ics for NAND and a GB Rom for SD?
thanks !!
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you might want to try the android forum,
been a long time since ive used it but i cant see why you couldnt install android ICS to NAND then use magldr to install android GB to an SD card
assuming thats what you mean?
I wanted to know how slow is sd compared to nand??
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs... But will they be ridiculously slower than nand versions???
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championswimmer said:
I wanted to know how slow is sd compared to nand??
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs... But will they be ridiculously slower than nand versions???
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No bugs with 2.3 aosp nand roms. Nand is a lot faster than sd version + it's very stable. Try it yourself
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The sd versions are more stable and less bugs
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Whoa, where are you getting that from? Neither version has any significant bugs and both are very stable
championswimmer said:
I wanted to know how slow is sd compared to nand??
The sd versions are more stable and less bugs... But will they be ridiculously slower than nand versions???
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There are a lot on nand that are stable like sd..
The differences are where the new system is installed: on nand it is fast because the nand (a memory like ram) is insert into the board of the phone and has bus and cable directly connected to the cpu.. But, maybe, it can be less stable because it isn't so easy alter the nand.
Create a system for an sd is easyer than nand because is an external device and, for this, maybe slow..
I cannot give you more details on speed.. It's like the speed of copy between two sata hard disk vs usb between disk..
Did i make myself clear?
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There are a lot on nand that are stable like sd..
The differences are where the new system is installed: on nand it is fast because the nand (a memory like ram) is insert into the board of the phone and has bus and cable directly connected to the cpu.. But, maybe, it can be less stable because it isn't so easy alter the nand.
Create a system for an sd is easyer than nand because is an external device and, for this, maybe slow..
I cannot give you more details on speed.. It's like the speed of copy between two sata hard disk vs usb between disk..
Did i make myself clear?
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lol...thanks but all this i already know...
i am gonna flash my hd2
so i jus wanna know if sd android will be "significantly" slower than nand android? (if not then I'll keep winmo on nand and not format nand)
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Read this
championswimmer said:
lol...thanks but all this i already know...
i am gonna flash my hd2
so i jus wanna know if sd android will be "significantly" slower than nand android? (if not then I'll keep winmo on nand and not format nand)
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Post 4 of this discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924577
championswimmer said:
lol...thanks but all this i already know...
i am gonna flash my hd2
so i jus wanna know if sd android will be "significantly" slower than nand android? (if not then I'll keep winmo on nand and not format nand)
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Hmm, not significantly slower but it will have much worse battery life. I've used ACA on SD (when I used Winmo) and Typhoon on NAND now and NAND is definitely faster but I wouldn't say significantly so.
Nigeldg said:
Hmm, not significantly slower but it will have much worse battery life. I've used ACA on SD (when I used Winmo) and Typhoon on NAND now and NAND is definitely faster but I wouldn't say significantly so.
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Yes, this is also my result. First i tried Boxmax on SD. It was stable but slow. So i decided to go to Energy NAND with the same Android+Sense Version like Boxmax. The NAND Version is faster so i have fun with it.
Ryker
Hey, I have a HD2.. And i am new to this forum.
I would like to know i have an spl version of 3.03 something. I want to get android on my phone. the last conversion i did was very unstable. sometimes the dialler didnt work. my signals stopped dropping. apps started to crash.
So this time i want to do the most stable android installation. which i can easily revert back also.
So please help me with this. I dont want it to lag or anything. apps shud run fine. no issue with singals and diallers etc.
Do u want it on NAND (internal memory) or on the SD card?
For both i recommend the Tytung kernel and mod its a great and stable one, i use ics 4.0.4 with kernel 3,2 and cm 9 -rhc2. i use Nand but also its possible in SD. view the treaths.
adil1508 said:
Do u want it on NAND (internal memory) or on the SD card?
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Well i tried nand.. it was Quite hard to undo.. but it lagged as well. if i install it on the sd card will there be a lag also.. cuz its reading from sd card. and will the android work if i for sometime remove the sd card?
Btw i am using a 8gb card.
Johrans said:
For both i recommend the Tytung kernel and mod its a great and stable one, i use ics 4.0.4 with kernel 3,2 and cm 9 -rhc2. i use Nand but also its possible in SD. view the treaths.
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can u direct me a link. or post an example video of it?
shehroze121 said:
Well i tried nand.. it was Quite hard to undo.. but it lagged as well. if i install it on the sd card will there be a lag also.. cuz its reading from sd card. and will the android work if i for sometime remove the sd card?
Btw i am using a 8gb card.
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Hold your horses mate
Android installed on the NAND of HD2 does not lag
i REPEAT
IT DOES NOT LAG
Here is a guide you can follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380
Its easy and all the required files are attached to the thread
If you find any difficulty, PM me for help
Cheers :good:
I use Typhoon v3.8.7 and highly recommend it.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
shehroze121 said:
Hey, I have a HD2.. And i am new to this forum.
I would like to know i have an spl version of 3.03 something. I want to get android on my phone. the last conversion i did was very unstable. sometimes the dialler didnt work. my signals stopped dropping. apps started to crash.
So this time i want to do the most stable android installation. which i can easily revert back also.
So please help me with this. I dont want it to lag or anything. apps shud run fine. no issue with singals and diallers etc.
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I would say this one is the most stable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
lolman2 said:
I would say this one is the most stable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
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+1 and fast overall and nice looking
Johrans said:
For both i recommend the Tytung kernel and mod its a great and stable one, i use ics 4.0.4 with kernel 3,2 and cm 9 -rhc2. i use Nand but also its possible in SD. view the treaths.
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any ICS ROM can play 720p video ? i tryed some ROM but all of them not work
my favorit is this fast and stable for everyday use
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769081
I use LEO King Rom, it runs well and i have no issues with it, and as far as i know, 720p doesnt play on any ICS rom from my experience.
Typhoon or Hyperdroid have been the fastest builds I've ever used. Haven't seen a bug in months too.
+1 for Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733649
It is fast, stable, and Sense 3.5 (the latter is essential for me ).
I used NexusHD2 builds for some time and I really like them. Tytung also releases frequent updates to its kernel as well which were always nice improvement :good: