So ppl.. m new on androiding htc hd2..
i know wats d diffrence but
what are the profits on installing android on sd,, in magldr sd.. and in nand flashing roms..
for what shuld i go for so dat i culd get smooth and stable android on my hd2..
android sd and android mgldr sd have same performance. but nand roms absolutely much better in terms of stability and speed. especially in sense roms there is a big difference. sd sense roms are very laggy. so go to nand roms as soon as possible
Hey depaak,
i'm in the same situation.
HD2 with WM 6.5 and wanna have a new Android Version.
The perfect solution is - as mutil described - an NAND Rom for your HD2. [RAM is faster than a SD Card]
You've to decide if you want to install an Android with Sense (the layout of Android added with some nice features by htc) or an Android without Sense.
I took an Rom with Sense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298188
Nice Evening
Still confused about sd/magldr boot
So. if we can boot to android from winmo.. then y do the chefs provide link for magldr version in Android on sd develpent??
deepak.soni said:
So. if we can boot to android from winmo.. then y do the chefs provide link for magldr version in Android on sd develpent??
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you can use sd roms with winmo. but with mgldr you can use both nand roms and sd roms. for instance i use a cm7 build in nand and a miui rom in sd. that is one of the points that makes mgldr superior to clk.
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hi all,
what is difference and benefit between RAM, SD, NAND installation ?
please leave your feedback and experience here..
James
Well here is a quick run down. I use a SD build myself.
Ok Andriod from SD card and RAM is kind of one in the same. You have to copy both versions to your SD card and run CLRCAD and HARET to boot them. But the SD builds run strickly from the SD card, were as the RAM versions place certain vitaile parts of the Android system in the RAM of your phone the first time you boot it, there for taking a little less time to boot but to be honest I don't think there is much difference between them as far as speed and usability. They both also have little hiccups with every build, but nothing that can not be lived with though,I mean after all we all have had to tolerate Windows Mobile Also this is the safest method to run Andriod on hour HD2.
Now NAND is a whole nother ball game. A NAND Andriod Rom will wipe Windows Mobile from your phone. This will let it boot straight into Andriod just like it if it would have came on the phone. They say everything works on the NAND builds and that they are super fast. But NAND takes a lot more time to install and to research before installing. You have a process of having to install HSPL 2.08, MAGLDR 1.13, and then flash your Andriod ROM.
A lot of people love NAND and say they will never go back. But others (like myself) like the SD/RAM builds cause it allows you to dual boot wich is awsome. Hope this helps
Just please read the sticky treats. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931192 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
Both at the first post in the treats
Just to add that ram is no longer synonimous with SD builds, many nand builds load parts into ram at boot. The benefits being a somewhat improved load time for apps, but as in post 2 that's fairly negligable, but what does help is that the framework is in ram too so you tend to get smoother menus,transitions and such.
ram isn't a build type in the way nand and SD are, you choose SD or nand, then with ramdisk tweaks or without. Some ram builds go all the way and load everything into ram, some just a few key parts.but they all start on SD or nand.
T-Macgnolia said:
Well here is a quick run down. I use a SD build myself.
But NAND takes a lot more time to install and to research before installing. You have a process of having to install HSPL 2.08, MAGLDR 1.13, and then flash your Andriod ROM.
A lot of people love NAND and say they will never go back. But others (like myself) like the SD/RAM builds cause it allows you to dual boot wich is awsome. Hope this helps
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hi T-Macgnolia,
That is what I worry about... I afraid that i do the wrong thing with NAND and make my htc hd2 became to bricked stone... he he he....
That why i still in SD version, but SD build of htc hd2 alway problem with camera or CamCorder also better also.
Mine is HTC HD Tombile Leo 1024mb running the [18.11.10]|MDJ FroYo Sense Clean v. 2.4 [kernel: MDJ S6.1]
it always problem with battery and camcorder.
James
jame_2d said:
hi T-Macgnolia,
That is what I worry about... I afraid that i do the wrong thing with NAND and make my htc hd2 became to bricked stone... he he he....
That why i still in SD version, but SD build of htc hd2 alway problem with camera or CamCorder also better also.
Mine is HTC HD Tombile Leo 1024mb running the [18.11.10]|MDJ FroYo Sense Clean v. 2.4 [kernel: MDJ S6.1]
it always problem with battery and camcorder.
James
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I understand your fear of bricking your HD2. With the T-Mobile HD2 you have to make sure you do not flash a wrong radio to it. The T-Mobile HD2 is not like the EU HD2 you can not flash just any ole radio to it. A wrong radio flash on a TMOUS HD2 (T-Mobile HD2) will end in a bricked phone everytime. This is a simple way to tell if the radio you want to flash are the radio in a ROM is compatible radio for your TMOUS HD2.
If it has a 50 in the third set of numbers it is a TMOUS radio. Example: 2.15.50.14 notice the 50
If it has a 51 in the third set of numbers it is not a TMOUS radio.
The only exeptions to this rule are radios like this 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx they will brick your HD2.
Other then that just make sure you have at least 50% battery charge befor you start a flash and that once you start a flash do not so much as touch you HD2 or let the USB cable become disconnected some how as this might result in a bricked phone too.
Hope this helps you out.
jame_2d said:
hi T-Macgnolia,
That is what I worry about... I afraid that i do the wrong thing with NAND and make my htc hd2 became to bricked stone... he he he....
That why i still in SD version, but SD build of htc hd2 alway problem with camera or CamCorder also better also.
Mine is HTC HD Tombile Leo 1024mb running the [18.11.10]|MDJ FroYo Sense Clean v. 2.4 [kernel: MDJ S6.1]
it always problem with battery and camcorder.
James
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That's a pretty old android build you're using, there... that may be why you're having problems with camera. This have progressed quickly with android... newer SD builds work great and have performance and battery life about the same as NAND builds. Try using a newer build... it will probably work a LOT better.
Please
zarathustrax said:
That's a pretty old android build you're using, there... that may be why you're having problems with camera. This have progressed quickly with android... newer SD builds work great and have performance and battery life about the same as NAND builds. Try using a newer build... it will probably work a LOT better.
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hi all friends,
Would you please recommend the good build of SD of T-Mobile HD2 that working
with Real 5MP of camera and Real Camcorder ?
Please feedback me ..
James
I have looked many time on this site and others trying to find a good link for 2.2 for my hd2. I did find one and it did not load correctly. If someone could help with a good link that would be awesome. you can email link to jrsgvr4 at live.com. Thank you in advance.
Quite a few good solid and stable 2.2 and 2.3 sense and non sense versions, I like sense and recommend the rom in my sig or don't be lazy and use the search or just look!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found myself in the same problem a couple months ago.
What I use is: darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
This is the most stable build I have used. (My opinion)
I have tried Android 2.2 with HTC Sense but some apps don't work and is very laggy.
If you still want to try Sense, use: [7 Mar][DL Desire v4.32.44.12][Sense Re-Engineering with RAM][Simply FAST]
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881937
I have not tried Gingerbread (2.3) and won't for a while because most apps aren't compatible with Gingerbread:
If you want Gingerbread (2.3), use: [MAR 05] AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB233 CM7|bkup2sdext234 [KERNEL:AmCanAndroid r3.01]
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
SD Card builds vs NAND builds:
Using SD builds is safer than NAND builds. This is because you can go back to Windows Mobile quickly if for some reason you don't want somebody to know you have Android on your phone.
Personally, I use SD builds so I don't have to go through the risk of bricking my HD2 while flashing a NAND build on it.
RAM (SD CARD) Builds:
Builds that use RAM to run Android are theoretically faster than NAND builds.
RAM is a faster memory compared to NAND memory.
Plus, SD Builds that use RAM don't stress the SD Card and make the phone hot/shorten the SD Card's life.
If you have anymore questions, reply to me.
Why would you ask this question on a development website? Where people make ROM's? Obviously just look in the development section.
A little more info needed, do you have MAGLDR or are you booting from SD?
I wonder how you people are managing a Sense 3 ROM on the HD2 LEO (EU)...
I flashed a couple of the available Nand Sense 3 ROMs here and all of them were really heavy, I was totally uncomfortable with my HD2, too slow, many glitches, laggy and sometimes hanging :S so impossible for a daily use although Sense 3 is simply tempting ...
To my surprise, I gave a try to a SD Sense 3 ROM (MccMBoxmaX_GS_V_6.5__3D_carousel_effect) and the results were totally incomparable to the Nand Sense 3 version that I've tried..
The question is I don't prefer to use SD ROMs on my HD2 (having to boot Windows first...); so will SD Sense 3 ROMs technically (with their bulky size) be more reliable and faster than similar Nand ROMs or something must have gone wrong with my previous Nand Sense 3 flashing?
something proably with your setup
i have been using sense 3 fora while now and dont see any slowdowns, they are fast and have no issues apart from the known issues of gra[phics glitches and camcorder not working
Richy99 said:
something proably with your setup
i have been using sense 3 fora while now and dont see any slowdowns, they are fast and have no issues apart from the known issues of gra[phics glitches and camcorder not working
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which sense 3 are you using mate ?
the main 2 ive used are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100707
but i also used sbyrans now discontinued rom
i currently running the rcmix 1.8 but am about to flash dungs kingdom rom
- Do u have LEO (512) or TMOUS (1024) ?
- How do u partition / prepare your SD card for a Sense 3 NAND ROM? isn't it 1024MB with 0M Swap through MAGLDR ?
- What about your system partition and cash size ? Do you use HD2 Android Nand Toolkit or similars ?
- Do you use cLK or MAGLDR ?
- Is there a clear tutorial how to flash a Sense 3 Nand rom around ? I have no problem with other Nand (non sense 3) roms... like HyperDroid CM7, HyperDroid-GBX, NexusHD2 Gingerbread... BUT unfortunately each has its own set of bugs that made me drop them...
So far my experience with Sense 3 roms is: slowness, lagging, frequent FC (specially during booting).. how are you guys overcoming or surviving with this?
And also, you dont need winmo to run Android from the sd.
SD Android can be run through Magldr directly
You may wanna give this a try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757
Fastest, less bugs, no lagging, no FCs, read the user feedback in thread.
Nakkoush said:
- Do u have LEO (512) or TMOUS (1024) ?
- How do u partition / prepare your SD card for a Sense 3 NAND ROM? isn't it 1024MB with 0M Swap through MAGLDR ?
- What about your system partition and cash size ? Do you use HD2 Android Nand Toolkit or similars ?
- Do you use cLK or MAGLDR ?
- Is there a clear tutorial how to flash a Sense 3 Nand rom around ? I have no problem with other Nand (non sense 3) roms... like HyperDroid CM7, HyperDroid-GBX, NexusHD2 Gingerbread... BUT unfortunately each has its own set of bugs that made me drop them...
So far my experience with Sense 3 roms is: slowness, lagging, frequent FC (specially during booting).. how are you guys overcoming or surviving with this?
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yes it is a eu leo
ive had 1 gb ext partition since inception of it being used
i use clk
there is no difference flashing the a sense 3 rom to another other using CWM
providing you wipe the partion and data before flashing you shouldnt get any FC
to be honest all the information you need to flash is in the rom creators post, if you are unsure of how to partition etc or flash then i suggest reading all the information thats available
i have a question: whats better, flashing from NAND or SD?
and why?
Richy99 said:
the main 2 ive used are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100707
but i also used sbyrans now discontinued rom
i currently running the rcmix 1.8 but am about to flash dungs kingdom rom
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OMG ! ! !
Tested LeoRCMix S v.1.8 and simply absolutely fantastic.......... miles better than the ones that I've tested before
Thank you all... I was about selling my HD2
Strychnin said:
You may wanna give this a try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757
Fastest, less bugs, no lagging, no FCs, read the user feedback in thread.
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Sense of Eclipse 1.0.0.1 looks interesting and promising and will be the next to try ! thanks mate...
any final result on which is the best sense3 rom??
i am also thinkin on changing from typhoon cm7 rom to a sense3 one
What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909185
Fatih_np said:
What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
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depends highly on your preferences ... do you 1. like having winmo 6.x (and warranty if applicable) 2. want only android as main OS
both have pros and cons. personally i like having android on NAND because its more native (turn the phone on and it boots right into android as if it came factory installed) and windows mobile 6.x is a dead (officially no longer supported by MS)
one might prefer SD to have more freedom and ease switching between rom builds.
the decision (and intensive research on how to accomplish either SD or NAND) is ultimately up to you.
GOOD LUCK :-D
Definitly NAND as long as you dont have an app running under WinMob only.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid (HD2 Leo)
Of Course Nand, work a lot of smoother and who needs WM 6.5
Maybe if you need WP7 you can make Android on SD
I prefer sd
Since WinMo 6.5 is rubbish and you can do everything with Android in a faster and smarter way of course NAND is your choice.
I had this same question - I have an application that only works on WM6.5 - So I guess I will need SD?
Now I have to choose a ROM - Can anyone point me in the right direction - I want something stable, fast and not too much updating.
Regards
ADC
adchesney said:
I had this same question - I have an application that only works on WM6.5 - So I guess I will need SD?
Now I have to choose a ROM - Can anyone point me in the right direction - I want something stable, fast and not too much updating.
Regards
ADC
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If you want try SD with Sense, look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171237
Fast, stable, all work well. But not last version of Android...
If you don't plan on using both WinMo AND Android, I would definitely recommend NAND.
I tried both approaches and NAND ROMs are simply faster and more responsive (NAND memory is usually faster than SD).
If you are an HD2 Android beginner, you might first try to use an SD version to try things out and get the feel of the Andorid OS (SD builds are easier to install).
Then, if you decide that pure Android is the way to go, you can switch to a NAND build.
There are ROMs that are maintained in both SD and NAND versions - for example the AmeriCan Android, which I use and am totally satisfied with (SD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209474; and if I remember correctly, there should even be an Ice Cream Sandwitch version in the works).
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What are you think ?
Is better to install sd or nand android ?
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i chose sd only if i try sonthing new. like the ice cream sandwich. but imo is nand the right one.
any one can tell me what is the recommended Android version for my HTC HD2 and whether NAND or SD ? coz i've tried the 2.3.7 version (SD) , but after i reboot my mob. it returned to WM 6.5 ..... neither the android launcher or Android folder did work
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any one can tell me what is the recommended Android version for my HTC HD2 and whether NAND or SD ? coz i've tried the 2.3.7 version (SD) , but after i reboot my mob. it returned to WM 6.5 ..... neither the android launcher or Android folder did work
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I would recommend Android nand over sd. I have built a competely stock MIUI rom, that uses the latest miui available. It is stable.
If someone gave me 1$ every time a person asked that, I would be rich haha
Do a little bit searching before posting please...
Anywayzzz
Don't even need to recommend, nand IS better than sd. It's more stable and has a better battery life.
Good Luck
NAND get my vote.
good luck
amnazzal said:
any one can tell me what is the recommended Android version for my HTC HD2 and whether NAND or SD ? coz i've tried the 2.3.7 version (SD) , but after i reboot my mob. it returned to WM 6.5 ..... neither the android launcher or Android folder did work
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I would recommend this NAND to you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275119
It's normal that your device starts WM 6.5 after a reboot, when you had flashed any SD-Build. You have to start your Android in WM.
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If you have problems with installing and flashing a NAND Android, this Guide may help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380
NAND is better
yup,.. i think nand is better than sd, i have try it.
Try this one from tyween http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
As for me it's more stable, than HyperDroid
nand is a way to go
typhoon is one of the best roms out there try 3.7.5 though(newest kernel is a bit unstable)
Nand is better in battery drain as said above.
Try Dorimanx Rom's, their pretty fast and absolutely stable.
domimatik said:
Nand is better in battery drain as said above.
Try Dorimanx Rom's, their pretty fast and absolutely stable.
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totally agree with this one
nand.
stable.
android native like with clk
not as much issues unless stated by dev
good luck
sent from my HTCHD2 running Haldrics Sense 3.0 rom v.2 & Marcs Kernel.