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HD2 LEO (EU) & Sense 3 ROMS -- (Nand vs SD)

I wonder how you people are managing a Sense 3 ROM on the HD2 LEO (EU)...
I flashed a couple of the available Nand Sense 3 ROMs here and all of them were really heavy, I was totally uncomfortable with my HD2, too slow, many glitches, laggy and sometimes hanging :S so impossible for a daily use although Sense 3 is simply tempting ...
To my surprise, I gave a try to a SD Sense 3 ROM (MccMBoxmaX_GS_V_6.5__3D_carousel_effect) and the results were totally incomparable to the Nand Sense 3 version that I've tried..
The question is I don't prefer to use SD ROMs on my HD2 (having to boot Windows first...); so will SD Sense 3 ROMs technically (with their bulky size) be more reliable and faster than similar Nand ROMs or something must have gone wrong with my previous Nand Sense 3 flashing?

something proably with your setup
i have been using sense 3 fora while now and dont see any slowdowns, they are fast and have no issues apart from the known issues of gra[phics glitches and camcorder not working

Richy99 said:
something proably with your setup
i have been using sense 3 fora while now and dont see any slowdowns, they are fast and have no issues apart from the known issues of gra[phics glitches and camcorder not working
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which sense 3 are you using mate ?

the main 2 ive used are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100707
but i also used sbyrans now discontinued rom
i currently running the rcmix 1.8 but am about to flash dungs kingdom rom

- Do u have LEO (512) or TMOUS (1024) ?
- How do u partition / prepare your SD card for a Sense 3 NAND ROM? isn't it 1024MB with 0M Swap through MAGLDR ?
- What about your system partition and cash size ? Do you use HD2 Android Nand Toolkit or similars ?
- Do you use cLK or MAGLDR ?
- Is there a clear tutorial how to flash a Sense 3 Nand rom around ? I have no problem with other Nand (non sense 3) roms... like HyperDroid CM7, HyperDroid-GBX, NexusHD2 Gingerbread... BUT unfortunately each has its own set of bugs that made me drop them...
So far my experience with Sense 3 roms is: slowness, lagging, frequent FC (specially during booting).. how are you guys overcoming or surviving with this?

And also, you dont need winmo to run Android from the sd.
SD Android can be run through Magldr directly

You may wanna give this a try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757
Fastest, less bugs, no lagging, no FCs, read the user feedback in thread.

Nakkoush said:
- Do u have LEO (512) or TMOUS (1024) ?
- How do u partition / prepare your SD card for a Sense 3 NAND ROM? isn't it 1024MB with 0M Swap through MAGLDR ?
- What about your system partition and cash size ? Do you use HD2 Android Nand Toolkit or similars ?
- Do you use cLK or MAGLDR ?
- Is there a clear tutorial how to flash a Sense 3 Nand rom around ? I have no problem with other Nand (non sense 3) roms... like HyperDroid CM7, HyperDroid-GBX, NexusHD2 Gingerbread... BUT unfortunately each has its own set of bugs that made me drop them...
So far my experience with Sense 3 roms is: slowness, lagging, frequent FC (specially during booting).. how are you guys overcoming or surviving with this?
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yes it is a eu leo
ive had 1 gb ext partition since inception of it being used
i use clk
there is no difference flashing the a sense 3 rom to another other using CWM
providing you wipe the partion and data before flashing you shouldnt get any FC
to be honest all the information you need to flash is in the rom creators post, if you are unsure of how to partition etc or flash then i suggest reading all the information thats available

i have a question: whats better, flashing from NAND or SD?
and why?

Richy99 said:
the main 2 ive used are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075703
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100707
but i also used sbyrans now discontinued rom
i currently running the rcmix 1.8 but am about to flash dungs kingdom rom
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OMG ! ! !
Tested LeoRCMix S v.1.8 and simply absolutely fantastic.......... miles better than the ones that I've tested before
Thank you all... I was about selling my HD2

Strychnin said:
You may wanna give this a try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124757
Fastest, less bugs, no lagging, no FCs, read the user feedback in thread.
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Sense of Eclipse 1.0.0.1 looks interesting and promising and will be the next to try ! thanks mate...

any final result on which is the best sense3 rom??
i am also thinkin on changing from typhoon cm7 rom to a sense3 one

[Q] whats the diffrence betwn android sd/ magldr/nand?

So ppl.. m new on androiding htc hd2..
i know wats d diffrence but
what are the profits on installing android on sd,, in magldr sd.. and in nand flashing roms..
for what shuld i go for so dat i culd get smooth and stable android on my hd2..

android sd and android mgldr sd have same performance. but nand roms absolutely much better in terms of stability and speed. especially in sense roms there is a big difference. sd sense roms are very laggy. so go to nand roms as soon as possible

Hey depaak,
i'm in the same situation.
HD2 with WM 6.5 and wanna have a new Android Version.
The perfect solution is - as mutil described - an NAND Rom for your HD2. [RAM is faster than a SD Card]
You've to decide if you want to install an Android with Sense (the layout of Android added with some nice features by htc) or an Android without Sense.
I took an Rom with Sense: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298188
Nice Evening

Still confused about sd/magldr boot
So. if we can boot to android from winmo.. then y do the chefs provide link for magldr version in Android on sd develpent??

deepak.soni said:
So. if we can boot to android from winmo.. then y do the chefs provide link for magldr version in Android on sd develpent??
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you can use sd roms with winmo. but with mgldr you can use both nand roms and sd roms. for instance i use a cm7 build in nand and a miui rom in sd. that is one of the points that makes mgldr superior to clk.

[Q] Best Sense Rom for Stability and Battery Life? This is for my GF.

Hey guys. Just bought an HD2, have flashed android 4.0 alpha on it, but I wanna give this phone to my girlfriend who lives in another state. She currently has a Mytouch Slide and I want to put a sense Rom on this phone because that's what she is familiar with. However I wanted to know what the most stable Sense Rom with the best battery life is? Is prefer a Sense 3.0 Rom but any version of Sense is fine. She doesn't use mobile web , only WiFi, and she usually texts and calls with it, very light app usage, if that helps describing her habits. Appreciate the input!

Flash this CLK bootloader in the right partition layout and follow instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
After that flash clockwork mod 5.2.0.6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987531
Partition your Sd card with a 1024mb Ext4 partition... you can do that with clockwork mod.
And flash this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
Most stable rom out there.... for daily use.
The advantage of CLK is that your HD2 boots like a native android.
So your girlfriend can't touch anything of the bootloader etc.
For any info take a look at this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336700
good luck

As the post above said, I personally find Android 2.2 with Sense 2.0 the most stable and fastest type of ROM out there. Perfect for daily use and if your girlfriend isn't bothered about having the latest version of Android

speedysilwady said:
Hey guys. Just bought an HD2, have flashed android 4.0 alpha on it, but I wanna give this phone to my girlfriend who lives in another state. She currently has a Mytouch Slide and I want to put a sense Rom on this phone because that's what she is familiar with. However I wanted to know what the most stable Sense Rom with the best battery life is? Is prefer a Sense 3.0 Rom but any version of Sense is fine. She doesn't use mobile web , only WiFi, and she usually texts and calls with it, very light app usage, if that helps describing her habits. Appreciate the input!
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the best sense rom according to me !!
ROM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326217
KERNEL : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360688
also flash the v6 kernel immediately without restarting the phone !!
flash both the rom and the kernel nd restart !
good luck !!

Thanks guys ill try both Roms for a couple days and see which I like more. She doesn't care to be on the latest version, but I personally prefer sense 3.0 or 3.5 cuz that's what I have on my sensation.

speedysilwady said:
Thanks guys ill try both Roms for a couple days and see which I like more. She doesn't care to be on the latest version, but I personally prefer sense 3.0 or 3.5 cuz that's what I have on my sensation.
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good luck with it mate ! !!
you may also try this one !! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733649 !
the rom is cooked on runnymede base !!
one of the best sense roms !! !!
happy flashing !!
cheers !!

SensationXL based ROM onHD2
Hello,
when i tthe first run after the instalation of the SensationXL based ROM from Energy im stuck witch the Animation.
And nothing is possible just pull out the battery. Haye anyone of you an idea what i could do fix this

Check clk partition sizes, make sure you have flashed a clk (and sense) compatible kernel. First boot can take up to 10 mins.

hermes288 said:
Hello,
when i tthe first run after the instalation of the SensationXL based ROM from Energy im stuck witch the Animation.
And nothing is possible just pull out the battery. Haye anyone of you an idea what i could do fix this
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Completely useless unless you give us more information, and wasting space seeing as you clearly haven't searched first.

[Q] Best Nand rom for HD2 with sense to you

Hello all
I ve tested some releases on sd card, those drain all my battery, so i ve decided to go a nand rom.
But i need a clean release without any tweak (exept those for hd2) with SENSE.
And really simple to instal (win .exe maybe)?
Which release can you recommend to me?
TIA
(I have an eurpean one)

Energy Desire HD is the best nand rom with sense go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733649

Thx a lot, i saw it but wasn't sure
But is there any sd version so as i can test it before??

DJEYHD2 said:
Thx a lot, i saw it but wasn't sure
But is there any sd version so as i can test it before??
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There are loads of SD Sense ROMs? Just look for pretty much anything by MCCM or BoxMax, you can find Sense 3.0, 2.0, 2.1 and 3.5. I would recommend Sense 2.0 as the best (Froyo), it's almost as fast and stable as the average CM7/MIUI/AOSP ROM.

i would go with Team Blue droid.
phenomenal rom and super fast,
used to be a fan of energy series, but
would occasional hiccups here and there.
Good luck!

[Q] Suggestion for dual boot

Hi guys! I need an advice both from Windows and Android users.
I used to run Gingerbread on my Leo (NexusHD2 by Tytung) with nativeSD, and I didn't update to ICS or JB because I didn't want it to become laggy (I suppose they are heavier than GB).
Yesterday, my sdcard got broken (actually it became write-protected for no reason on earth, and I couldn't find any way to unlock it or format it, even though I tried with every solution I found on the internet), so I just bought a new one, which will arrive tomorrow; I've read on xda that class4 Sandisk cards are the best ones for smartphones, because they have a higher random speed, whereas class6 and class10 have higher sequential speed but lower random speed. So I bought a 32GB Sandisk class4.
ANDROID PART
1) Now, given that card, do you think I will be able to run smoothly Jellybean (if I find a good stable ROM)? Or do you think it is just too heavy? (If I'm not mistaken ICS, JB, Kitkat are all optimized for multi-core CPUs, and we have a single core with relatively low ram...)
2) If you think I can update to JB without having lags as soon as I install a few apps, would you recommend me a good, stable and fast nativeSD ROM? I'm looking for something very basic, without built-in apps or other crap, I just want the simple, original OS and I will install apps that I need later.
WINDOWS PHONE PART
Since I'll have plenty of space now, with 32GB, I thought to give Windows Phone a shot, since I use Windows 8 on my laptop and I've been told that WP is a very light and not power-demanding OS.
So my idea is a dual boot through nativeSD with Android as favourite OS (since it's the one I'm used to) and WP as second OS, to see if it can fit my needs.
Could you recommend me a good, stable and fast nativeSD ROM? I'm looking for something very basic, without built-in apps or other crap, I just want the simple, original OS and I will install apps that I need later. Besides, is there a stable WP8 for HD2 or just WP7?
Thank you very much for any help. I hope to come to a decision today because tomorrow I'll get the new sdcard and I want to do ll the flashing in one time, without having to repartition the sdcard later

hi
i dual booted my hd2 a while ago.
if u want my opinion, windows phone will not come in use.
but! i still have it on my phone.
i use hd2o as winphone and tytung's nexusHD2 v2.7 (android 4.2.2) as nativeSD android. (i have a 16gb toshiba class 4 microsd card)
there is no winphone 8 available so far, and since DFT and a lot of developers are no longer supporting HD2, i dont think it will be available ever!
A lot of people use pedijamas winphone and say its awesome, but i haven't, and i have no time to switch.
kitkat is still beta, and some features do not work. A few days ago I installed nexusHD2 v3.3 (android 4.3) on my friends phone (nand, CLK sandisk 8gb class 10) and it was great.
but!!!!
my android is not that good. its slow and laggy.
conclusion:
1. Do not install winphone and magldr. instead install CLK and android (nexusHD2 is great, i think v2.7 is still better than v3.3)
2. Install winphone, and android. (i suggest install a few androids and see which one works better, i think 2.3.3 will be better though)
3. Install winphone alone, its fast, and by fast, i mean like FAAAST! but, its not android, so apps and ui will make u sick after a while! :S

hamid_valad said:
hi
i dual booted my hd2 a while ago.
if u want my opinion, windows phone will not come in use.
but! i still have it on my phone.
i use hd2o as winphone and tytung's nexusHD2 v2.7 (android 4.2.2) as nativeSD android. (i have a 16gb toshiba class 4 microsd card)
there is no winphone 8 available so far, and since DFT and a lot of developers are no longer supporting HD2, i dont think it will be available ever!
A lot of people use pedijamas winphone and say its awesome, but i haven't, and i have no time to switch.
kitkat is still beta, and some features do not work. A few days ago I installed nexusHD2 v3.3 (android 4.3) on my friends phone (nand, CLK sandisk 8gb class 10) and it was great.
but!!!!
my android is not that good. its slow and laggy.
conclusion:
1. Do not install winphone and magldr. instead install CLK and android (nexusHD2 is great, i think v2.7 is still better than v3.3)
2. Install winphone, and android. (i suggest install a few androids and see which one works better, i think 2.3.3 will be better though)
3. Install winphone alone, its fast, and by fast, i mean like FAAAST! but, its not android, so apps and ui will make u sick after a while! :S
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Thank you for the reply! A few questions:
1a. In Tytung's v3.3, are the WiFi and 3G/HSPDA traffic indicator arrows in the status bar still not working or did he fix them?
1b. Why not magldr? I thought it would be better since it allows to "unlock" the 576MB RAM in EU HD2s (and I see that Tytung himself uses magldr )
2. Is WinPhone available just in NAND? No nativeSD ROMs?

alfling said:
Thank you for the reply! A few questions:
1a. In Tytung's v3.3, are the WiFi and 3G/HSPDA traffic indicator arrows in the status bar still not working or did he fix them?
1b. Why not magldr? I thought it would be better since it allows to "unlock" the 576MB RAM in EU HD2s (and I see that Tytung himself uses magldr )
2. Is WinPhone available just in NAND? No nativeSD ROMs?
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1a: i'm not sure, since i use nexushd2 v2.7, and it works just fine. (also i don't think its a big deal! i never noticed those arrows!)
1b: i dont know how did you find out that tytung uses magldr!!!! i my self use magldr, its great. but i believe if you just want to use android, CLK is a better option. new roms (4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4) wont fit on nand, so you have to make an ext4 partition and put your data on sd. just your system partition goes to nand, so i think it doesn't make any difference to unlock 576MB RAM. and also i don't know if CLK unlocks it or not! (sorry for my lack of info!)
2: i know this one!!!! )
nope, WinPhone is just available on nand, sadly!

hamid_valad said:
1a: i'm not sure, since i use nexushd2 v2.7, and it works just fine. (also i don't think its a big deal! i never noticed those arrows!)
1b: i dont know how did you find out that tytung uses magldr!!!! i my self use magldr, its great. but i believe if you just want to use android, CLK is a better option. new roms (4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4) wont fit on nand, so you have to make an ext4 partition and put your data on sd. just your system partition goes to nand, so i think it doesn't make any difference to unlock 576MB RAM. and also i don't know if CLK unlocks it or not! (sorry for my lack of info!)
2: i know this one!!!! )
nope, WinPhone is just available on nand, sadly!
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Thanks again! Eventually I asked directly to Tytung and he answered me that it was just an aesthetic thing and the he wouldn't fix it because Google themself removed them in the following versions. I installed the v3.3 and so far it's GREAT (like every Tytung's work)!
I guess he's using MAGLDR from what he writes at the end of his threads, but it's just a guess. Anyway, I'm forced to use nativeSD because some time ago I had continuous crashes even after Task29 and fresh install of Tytung ROMS, so I guess I have some bad blocks in my NAND after 4 years of heavy usage. I hoped to give WP a shot because I've read it's blazing fast, but I'll be happy with my JB 4.3 CM 10.2 :laugh:

alfling said:
Thanks again! Eventually I asked directly to Tytung and he answered me that it was just an aesthetic thing and the he wouldn't fix it because Google themself removed them in the following versions. I installed the v3.3 and so far it's GREAT (like every Tytung's work)!
I guess he's using MAGLDR from what he writes at the end of his threads, but it's just a guess. Anyway, I'm forced to use nativeSD because some time ago I had continuous crashes even after Task29 and fresh install of Tytung ROMS, so I guess I have some bad blocks in my NAND after 4 years of heavy usage. I hoped to give WP a shot because I've read it's blazing fast, but I'll be happy with my JB 4.3 CM 10.2 :laugh:
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see, nexusHD2 is still awesome!
lucky me! i never had any problem with my nand!
if you have to use nativesd, it makes no difference if u use magldr or clk.
if you want to install WP, you have to install MAGLDR, but the problem is that it will wipe your sd and partition it to an unknown partition type. so back up your data before ding so!
have fun.
if i helped, i'm glad!

hamid_valad said:
see, nexusHD2 is still awesome!
lucky me! i never had any problem with my nand!
if you have to use nativesd, it makes no difference if u use magldr or clk.
if you want to install WP, you have to install MAGLDR, but the problem is that it will wipe your sd and partition it to an unknown partition type. so back up your data before ding so!
have fun.
if i helped, i'm glad!
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You've helped me a lot! Thanks!