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Please put big "3G ONLY" warnings on all the Root guides.

Because I followed the instructions here, which give no such warning, and bricked my WiFi Xoom. =/

I'll be honest - you found the forum but somehow missed all the previous posts regarding this?

How can we fix a softbrick? I did not think they would be different and followed a guide on AndroidCentral. Now I am at the Motorola Dual Core Technology screen and it is going no where.

I agree with the OP. At least for the time being since there seems to be some discrepancy between the wifi and wifi+3g software versions.
It doesn't hurt to add in the title of the thread or in the body of the OPs text to add something about whether it is compatible with wifi only and/or wifi+3g.
I know people can read pages and pages of a thread to find out about the compatibility but I think we should help each out and try to prevent as many soft bricks of the xoom as possible.

Shizlak said:
Because I followed the instructions here, which give no such warning, and bricked my WiFi Xoom. =/
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Wouldn't the first red flag be that the WiFi Xoom isn't even generally available until tomorrow? There hasn't been a need to make the discrepancy between 3G and WiFi models up to this point.
Do you expect methods to be made for the WiFi Xoom when its not even on sale unless you have a lucky store that decided to sell early lol.

Xaositek said:
I'll be honest - you found the forum but somehow missed all the previous posts regarding this?
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Google.
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martonikaj said:
Wouldn't the first red flag be that the WiFi Xoom isn't even generally available until tomorrow? There hasn't been a need to make the discrepancy between 3G and WiFi models up to this point.
Do you expect methods to be made for the WiFi Xoom when its not even on sale unless you have a lucky store that decided to sell early lol.
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Nope, I would expect it to be with and without a 3G mini pci card. There's no reason for the boot software to be different.

Shizlak said:
Nope, I would expect it to be with and without a 3G mini pci card. There's no reason for the boot software to be different.
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Idk it doesn't necessarily make too much sense for them to be different, but there's no reason to take it upon yourself to try it before its been approved or at least tested lol. Sorry but the first thing you should've done is the research to see if there are differences first. I think you could've waited 24 hrs and seen what people find out.

since u are sitting on a soft brick, try flashing tiamat and see if it fixes it. If not, a stock boot img should hit the interwebz in a matter of minute's.

No brick returns?
My neighbor is a Best Buy manager he told me the higher ups know about these bricks. He was instructed NOT to take returns if the xoom is in this condition. I would imagine other stores are going to do the same!

The instructions on screen when you unlock clearly state that you are voiding the warranty. They shouldn't take returns on bricked xooms.

goldsworthy said:
My neighbor is a Best Buy manager he told me the higher ups know about these bricks. He was instructed NOT to take returns if the xoom is in this condition. I would imagine other stores are going to do the same!
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Only if you're a moron would you allow them not to return it.
Sent from my Captivate

Everybody knows the root method was posted over a month ago, obviously that is for 3g xooms. The op knew what he was doing, the Guy who created that thread a month ago isn't coming bavk to change titles for you, make sure you read a guide that says wifi only root, personally that's what I would've done instead of blaming other people. If you're smart enough to root but can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you. That said you have 15-30 days to return your stuff as long as its not physical damaged, best buy has to take it back, don't listen to the other guy who said differently
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May sound trivial but, my stickers are peeling!

Its really no big whoop. I use my TF normally, I keep it stored in a small neoprene laptop case. The s/n sticker is peeling and the back sticker which hass all the model info numbers and such is also peeling. I thought they would last longer than a couple of months. I dont own a KB yet but I assumed the big rear sticker was really for being able to slide the TF into the slot so as not to scratch up the back. Anyone else getting peeling stickers?

Perhaps a little contact cement will hold them. I had a similar issue with one of my cameras and contact cement made the serial # sticker permanent.

sounds like you need to rma tablet immediatey

Oyeve said:
Its really no big whoop. I use my TF normally, I keep it stored in a small neoprene laptop case. The s/n sticker is peeling and the back sticker which hass all the model info numbers and such is also peeling. I thought they would last longer than a couple of months. I dont own a KB yet but I assumed the big rear sticker was really for being able to slide the TF into the slot so as not to scratch up the back. Anyone else getting peeling stickers?
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Mine is a bit, I would just take a note of the serial number etc and take the stickers off if it is annoying you, the sticker on the back just holds the FCC etc and isn't important.

Wow - one of the first things I did was to remove those stupid stickers!! Surely, then can get the S/N from the inside somewhere if they needed to, right??

jtrosky said:
Wow - one of the first things I did was to remove those stupid stickers!! Surely, then can get the S/N from the inside somewhere if they needed to, right??
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Yes, but you do need it if you have to RMA your unit. As long as you have the box or the manual you should be ok (the S/N is on both these items).

jtrosky said:
Wow - one of the first things I did was to remove those stupid stickers!! Surely, then can get the S/N from the inside somewhere if they needed to, right??
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Same thing here. Those stickers didn't look like they were meant to hold on except for in the box.

jtrosky said:
Wow - one of the first things I did was to remove those stupid stickers!! Surely, then can get the S/N from the inside somewhere if they needed to, right??
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just to let you know, you can NOT get the s/n inside the tablet. I know this because my friend's tablet died and it was kind of a pain to RMA since his tablet never had the s/n sticker on the tablet itself and he threw the box away. But I did find out that the s/n is on the warranty card.

Ripped off stickers here as well, first thing I did. They should really be permanently etched into the case.

Does nobody keep their boxes anymore? The sn is on the box =p
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

A little clear finger polish might do the trick.

lacrossev said:
Does nobody keep their boxes anymore? The sn is on the box =p
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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In today's market of get it out first then fix it later if customers complain enough you almost have to keep the box until out of warranty so it can go back.

Sticker definitely does not feel permanent. Disappointing considering the information listed. My old skool mp3 player (zune) has it etched into the back, looks good.

I don't think either of the 2 tablets I have received had serial numbers on the actual unit.

So does mine, I was considering tearing them off - is there any reason to keep them on?

I took the one on the back when I walked out of best buy
But the serial number one is still there. Might put some tape over it or something.

I placed my stickers inside my warranty booklet

Surely ASUS has another wat to obtain the serial number... Otherwise, if my 6 month old Transformer breaks, I can just go buy a new one, put the new one's serial number sticker on the old one and then return the old one as if it were only a few days old.... See what I mean? I woud hope that ASUS has another way of idetifying these things...

yoiy

Well being a noob in rom cooking, i have hard bricked my tab. It doesnt even turn on.
Im new to sammy stuff, so would appreciate some pointers, is this: http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-jtag-brick-repair/ the only way?

me and others flash the room from the stupied idiot guy in this post and got brick our devices, BTW i think he is working with the company you mintioned in web site, if like that he and the company are dirty.
any way, you are developer so try to recognize how flashing rom could make such problem. please.
the device have little hot in left side so maybe some hardware working ??thinking

jamaljmys said:
me and others flash the room from the stupied idiot guy in this post and got brick our devices, BTW i think he is working with the company you mintioned in web site, if like that he and the company are dirty.
any way, you are developer so try to recognize how flashing rom could make such problem. please.
the device have little hot in left side so maybe some hardware working ??thinking
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I did not flash anyones rom. I was trying to build my own. Which thread are you referring to?

This One!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497916

jamaljmys said:
me and others flash the room from the stupied idiot guy in this post and got brick our devices, BTW i think he is working with the company you mintioned in web site, if like that he and the company are dirty.
any way, you are developer so try to recognize how flashing rom could make such problem. please.
the device have little hot in left side so maybe some hardware working ??thinking
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Definitely not working for any company, and I have developed many Android ROMs and never had this problem. I've been here since 2005, for crying out loud. This is my first Samsung ROM, so I admit to being new there. I will even accept your "stupid idiot" comment, as I guess I deserve it. Although, I wonder why 150 people have downloaded it and only two or three people that I can see have been bricked. Something must connect those with issues. We need to find what it is.
Also, I am happy to pay for the de-bricking of those who are legitimately bricked i.e., followed instructions, have a receipt from JTAG, or whatever it is). Just PM me.
Steve

For reference, I am the only one who does anything for/with MobileTechVideos from a business stand point and two, I have successfully reverse engineered the world's (currently) only hard brick solution for this model as you will see above...

connexion2005 said:
For reference, I am the only one who does anything for/with MobileTechVideos from a business stand point and two, I have successfully reverse engineered the world's (currently) only hard brick solution for this model as you will see above...
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Thanks for the info. I am dying to find out what caused these users to have this problem, and no one else seems to have.
Steve

Moved To General​
I have to apply the same rules for all. As the first post contains no development, it does not belong in said section​

sk806 said:
Definitely not working for any company, and I have developed many Android ROMs and never had this problem. I've been here since 2005, for crying out loud. This is my first Samsung ROM, so I admit to being new there. I will even accept your "stupid idiot" comment, as I guess I deserve it. Although, I wonder why 150 people have downloaded it and only two or three people that I can see have been bricked. Something must connect those with issues. We need to find what it is.
Also, I am happy to pay for the de-bricking of those who are legitimately bricked i.e., followed instructions, have a receipt from JTAG, or whatever it is). Just PM me.
Steve
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let us dry the tears and look forward to solve the problem.
steve, please pass the words came from reaction, it was chock as you seen. sorry for harming.
iam in middle east and not confidant to ship my device to unknown address because he mentioned in web page that he has solution, i mean JTAG and its not subject of who to pay steve.
supposedly that web site is true, and they didn't mention that they will change any part of device, what they will do to fix? the problem happened because we flashed non compatible files i think.
let us figure out the problem and try to find solution. right?

jamaljmys said:
let us dry the tears and look forward to solve the problem.
steve, please pass the words came from reaction, it was chock as you seen. sorry for harming.
iam in middle east and not confidant to ship my device to unknown address because he mentioned in web page that he has solution, i mean JTAG and its not subject of who to pay steve.
supposedly that web site is true, and they didn't mention that they will change any part of device, what they will do to fix? the problem happened because we flashed non compatible files i think.
let us figure out the problem and try to find solution. right?
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Absolutely. I understand. I have gotten into many messes since i started developing, and know that panic. I just need to know everything you.and the other user who had this problem can tell e about your device so i can find out what the common denominator is. So, confirm it is the wifi and 3g version you are using, and what build you are coming from, if you would. Are you using a sim card? Have you tried pressing power and volume up for a while? Thanks. Also, does your tablet feel hot at all?
Steve

sk806 said:
Absolutely. I understand. I have gotten into many messes since i started developing, and know that panic. I just need to know everything you.and the other user who had this problem can tell e about your device so i can find out what the common denominator is. So, confirm it is the wifi and 3g version you are using, and what build you are coming from, if you would. Are you using a sim card? Have you tried pressing power and volume up for a while? Thanks. Also, does your tablet feel hot at all?
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thank you steve
in your original topic i gave all info

sk806 said:
Absolutely. I understand. I have gotten into many messes since i started developing, and know that panic. I just need to know everything you.and the other user who had this problem can tell e about your device so i can find out what the common denominator is. So, confirm it is the wifi and 3g version you are using, and what build you are coming from, if you would. Are you using a sim card? Have you tried pressing power and volume up for a while? Thanks. Also, does your tablet feel hot at all?
Steve
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Well I used yours as a base, just chopped the usual crap out, resigned, flashed, everything seemed OK. Initiated reboot, bam, doesn't turn on.
Charged all night, tab is hot along left edge, so I'm guessing still charging. 8600.

ftgg99 said:
Well I used yours as a base, just chopped the usual crap out, resigned, flashed, everything seemed OK. Initiated reboot, bam, doesn't turn on.
Charged all night, tab is hot along left edge, so I'm guessing still charging. 8600.
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let us exchange the ideas
first we need to get the device powered so maybe remove and return battery could do something?? but how?
any external way to use it throw usb slot while charging ?

I would try pulling the battery but have no idea how to get the case off.

Steve, just wondering out loud whether those who have the hard-brick issue be because there are on pre-production hardware, so they have a slightly different hardware SKU. Hence your ROM does not work for them.

pinkowl said:
Steve, just wondering out loud whether those who have the hard-brick issue be because there are on pre-production hardware, so they have a slightly different hardware SKU. Hence your ROM does not work for them.
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That seems to be the case for one of them. I am not positive about the others. I am having a hard time getting people to just tell me what build they were using prior to the flash...There seem to be 3 people who have had this porblem, and there must be something linking them, although it may be something random. Need to figure it out.
Steve

sk806 said:
That seems to be the case for one of them. I am not positive about the others. I am having a hard time getting people to just tell me what build they were using prior to the flash...There seem to be 3 people who have had this porblem, and there must be something linking them, although it may be something random. Need to figure it out.
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I came from P6800ZSKL2. Dont know if it was from the very first production line, but judging by the quality (i bought three, all with crap displays) they probably were.
Also, i believe the device is on and trying to unpack something because it is indeed warm.
This of course means that there may be hope of getting into download or recovery yet... i will drain it for 34 hours and then attempt to turn it back on.

ftgg99 said:
I came from P6800ZSKL2. Dont know if it was from the very first production line, but judging by the quality (i bought three, all with crap displays) they probably were.
Also, i believe the device is on and trying to unpack something because it is indeed warm.
This of course means that there may be hope of getting into download or recovery yet... i will drain it for 34 hours and then attempt to turn it back on.
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Please see sk806 original thread- we have been "discussing" why you might be having "problems".

ezynow said:
Please see sk806 original thread- we have been "discussing" why you might be having "problems".
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Uh, not sure about the quotes, but yes, I am about to try something that might answer the question of why some bricked. If the answer is affirmative, however, the only solution likely is JTAG...
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Please see sk806 original thread- we have been "discussing" why you might be having "problems".
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BTW, his "suggestion" was "incorrect." Still not sure what's up. Will keep posted, and like I said, I'll work something out with JTAG for those who got bricked yesterday and posted about in in the original thread before I responded.
Steve

For the record hard bricks on the Exynos 4210 will occur generally in one of 3 ways:
1) Mis-matched boot.bin and sbl.bin
2) Incompatible boot.bin and sbl.bin combo
3) Invalid PIT file flash from an earlier generation TAB or Galaxy S device
Anything else causing a black screen is simply hardware failure.

[Q] How do you change the SNID on iconia a500?

How do you change the SNID on iconia A500?
I would like to change the SNID of my Tablet.
I sent my out of warranty tablet in for repair to Acer, it had a dead Mother Board.
I used the back panel off of my other tablet with a good warranty and SNID bar code.
When the tablet came back it has the SNID of the back panel i used.
So now I have two tablets with the same SNID.
I would like to change it back to the old SNID.
Any one no how to change the SNID?
I know how to change it on an ACER PC but not the Tablet.

I'm pretty sure you can't.

Evidently there is a way.
I am not saying it is public information but Acer obviously can.
I now have 2 tablets with the same SNID.
So it is not a unique number generated from an embedded number somewhere on the Motherboard I have two with the same SNID.
Anyone have any info?

So if I understand, you had 2 tablets.
You had an issue with 1, so you changed (for some reason), the EXT SD pnl of a good one, with the one that was bad? Then when you received the repaired tablet, it has the same SNID as the other?????
Why would you do something like that, unless you were trying to "cheat" acer, by pretending that the tablet you sent for repair, was actually out of warranty. (by using a ext sd panel of one that was within warranty).
Sounds pretty low to me....
MD
EDIT: the answer is yes. If you have a machine level coding machine to re-program the chips.

I tried to get Acer to help repair the tablet they gave all kind of excuses why they would not honor the warranty.
So I used the SNID with no questions asked.
That is not cheating or low, it is fair!

t_r_j said:
Evidently there is a way.
I am not saying it is public information but Acer obviously can.
I now have 2 tablets with the same SNID.
So it is not a unique number generated from an embedded number somewhere on the Motherboard I have two with the same SNID.
Anyone have any info?
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Like I said - you cant. They can, however. They issue new SNID's when tabs get sent out to be refurbished by their partners - even they can't change/issue an SNID, only Acer can.

t_r_j said:
I tried to get Acer to help repair the tablet they gave all kind of excuses why they would not honor the warranty.
So I used the SNID with no questions asked.
That is not cheating or low, it is fair!
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Mate, to have 2 tablets, and change the EXT SD card covers, is not exactly fair, to change the cover which is out of warranty with another which is in warranty. And in the end, you have 2 tablets with the same SNID numbers.
I should ask which country do you live, as warranty policy is different from other countries. This I know.
MD

You can't have 2 tablets, 1 with warranty, and 1 without. and change the EXT SD covers, and turn it in for repair.
This is deceitful, and in most countries against the law, regardless if you own 2 tablets of the same type. This is something I witnessed when I was abroad in the military.
This is why you have 2 tablets with the same SNID. It's what you did, and you have to live with it. You will have to call Acer and explain to them.
I suspect there is more to this story than what is told.
MD

Just own up to the fact that what you did was wrong. It wasn't "fair" in any sense of the word. You knew what you were doing now you gotta deal with it.

starkiller86 said:
Just own up to the fact that what you did was wrong. It wasn't "fair" in any sense of the word. You knew what you were doing now you gotta deal with it.
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I suppose the OP could call them and say he swapped them by mistake when looking inside the tablet, as he is a technology fan. He thought putting the wrong backs on wouldn't make a difference so didn't bother to check the SNID. But eventually it comes down to a matter of social engineering
Either way, we can't reprogram the EC ROMs with new SNIDs. Nobody has those tools yet. Hacks are created with a need and you seem to be the only person that needs to falsify their SNID ;P
On the moral issues - if the tablet was out of warranty and you did then you're wrong and Acer will probably charge you to fix it themselves. If the tablet still had warranty and Acer were being nasty and not honouring it (i.e. because it was close to the end etc.) then I would have probably done the same thing in your situation

Did not mean to rattle the hornet nest here, just asked a question.
I suppose it is better dropped at this point.
Acer warrants things when they want to and sometimes not.

t_r_j said:
Did not mean to rattle the hornet nest here, just asked a question.
I suppose it is better dropped at this point.
Acer warrants things when they want to and sometimes not.
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Quite likely. Many companies are like that these days. Very hit & miss. I had an acer laptop issue and they just told me to reformat it. Wtf.
Sent from my Iconia A500 using Tapatalk 2

Hmmm....
Just to satisfy my curiousity here... What are the downsides to having two tabs with the same snid?

JdgM3NT4L said:
Just to satisfy my curiousity here... What are the downsides to having two tabs with the same snid?
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Warranty confusion. It's like cloning an IMEI (except the latter is dodgy). The tablet doesn't match the box or indeed its own casing!
Sent from my Iconia A500 using Tapatalk 2

blackthund3r said:
Warranty confusion. It's like cloning an IMEI (except the latter is dodgy). The tablet doesn't match the box or indeed its own casing!
Sent from my Iconia A500 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks, but ignoring that part of it (as well as any moral implications). Are there problems with Google Play or apps or something? I mean, it seems like mission accomplished. I'm just trying to wrap my tiny brain around why this is a problem... Not at all important, So it is ok to let this die...

Just din't want to have any warranty confusion down the road.
Seems simple enough a question but I guess the whole SNID thing must be a BIG SECRET. I have repaired many PC's and laptops and set the serial number back to match the case after installing a new mother board. In the case of the PC's and laptops it is incoded in the bios, so the biois needs to be edited. Esay enough to do with the correct tools. Thought there might be something similar for the Tablets but it seems the subject is taboo.
Oh well, thats what I get for asking.

I'm in need of how to change a SNID back, or at least explain to me how the hell I inadvertently changed it. I was running Taboonay from about 2 years ago, and decided to flash ICS (Taboonay 3.0). I got into it, and honestly didn't like most of the ICS, so I wanted to go back. Flashed CWM 1.7 from acer recovery, and installed an old 3.2 rom from a file I downloaded from link here on XDA: Acer_500_4.010.38_COM_GEN1 (the vache link from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159443) The update.zip didn't work when I extracted it, so I put the update.zip on a thumb drive, and used CWM 1.7 to flash it, and it worked. I lost my CWM, but that was no biggie.
But now, my SNID is 696660736xe, and I don't know where the hell that came from. Is it one of yours vache? lol
I guess my question is, where inside the standard rom zip files is the SNID stored? Or did my Abe Lincoln frankenstein zombie black magic create a SNID in the 8th dimension and beam it into my a500 (I'm hoping the later of the two!!!)
To be honest I only want to change the SNID in case I do something naughty with my tablet, I don't want someone else's tablet to be punished for it

Not sure if it is the same id but titanium backup has an option to change the Android ID. Noticed this a while back after a factory reset and when restoring my titanium backup. Gave me a change to keep the new id or change back to what it was.

and then tth
t_r_j said:
How do you change the SNID on iconia A500?
I would like to change the SNID of my Tablet.
I sent my out of warranty tablet in for repair to Acer, it had a dead Mother Board.
I used the back panel off of my other tablet with a good warranty and SNID bar code.
When the tablet came back it has the SNID of the back panel i used.
So now I have two tablets with the same SNID.
I would like to change it back to the old SNID.
Any one no how to change the SNID?
I know how to change it on an ACER PC but not the Tablet.
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man youve posted this everywhere im trying to look into this if xdasupporthelpedme actualy did change his SNID by flashing one of vaches .zip then it must be possible right ???
EDIT: i found the imei or android id i believe to possbly be in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
dont know if its changeable though :/
is it possible for the serial number to be programmed into flash then the bootloader passes it to the kernel via kernel command line?? just wandering

weird delivery from staples

Boght fire tv for someone from staples I was hoping to root it .. nope it had newest firmware and was updated on Dec.2 too bad... but that's fine.
It shows there were 2 remotes used 2 serial numbers (one is the one I just activated) and other one.
You guys think they sent me used one? or it was simply opened to update? everything looked brand new though..

patt2k said:
Boght fire tv for someone from staples I was hoping to root it .. nope it had newest firmware and was updated on Dec.2 too bad... but that's fine.
It shows there were 2 remotes used 2 serial numbers (one is the one I just activated) and other one.
You guys think they sent me used one? or it was simply opened to update? everything looked brand new though..
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Go to aftvnews.com and use the serial decoder. You could tell what fw you should have had and probably figure out if it had been opened before.

t3ch42 said:
Go to aftvnews.com and use the serial decoder. You could tell what fw you should have had and probably figure out if it had been opened before.
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I did it has shown "Rootable" and when I opened I saw it was updated on Dec.02.
Should I complain to staples about this? what you think?
I got around the root modules etc.. I needed so it's fine without root for this particular fire TV.

patt2k said:
I did it has shown "Rootable" and when I opened I saw it was updated on Dec.02.
Should I complain to staples about this? what you think?
I got around the root modules etc.. I needed so it's fine without root for this particular fire TV.
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You should returned it asap, if the store accepts the return that were bought online and buy another one, just make sure it is one of those serial number and serial number seal is not broken.
Or just walk in to a staples buy a new one that has root able serial numbers and then go home open i andt put the other one in box and take it back to store and say it is defective you cant connect to internet either via wifi or ethernet so they will send it back to Amazon and wont re-sell it. Since the amazon device it self does not have any serial number labled that matches with the box there is no way they can confirm which one you giving it back....
Thank you

ashsha7877 said:
You should returned it asap, if the store accepts the return that were bought online and buy another one, just make sure it is one of those serial number and serial number seal is not broken.
Or just walk in to a staples buy a new one that has root able serial numbers and then go home open i andt put the other one in box and take it back to store and say it is defective you cant connect to internet either via wifi or ethernet so they will send it back to Amazon and wont re-sell it. Since the amazon device it self does not have any serial number labled that matches with the box there is no way they can confirm which one you giving it back....
Thank you
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I was on chat with staples chat and my chat closed because it was after 8 PM EST I think he was about to prepare me a pickup @ my closest store and return the used one to staples via ups or something.
I will call them soon.
Just called them and the lady said just to go to the store and swap it and pack it how it came and just bring a receipt..
So now I need to find out how do I factory reset thing thing lol.
Thanks guys !

People should stop believing that anyone can tell if their fire tv is rootable by looking at the serial number, cause its impossible. I got three fire tv boxes at different times and none are rootable, but the decoder says they are. its just someone trying to take a guess and there are zero facts to say otherwise. Its funny how some people will believe anything that they read. I personally think that its a crap shoot, and that they update the boxes themselves, but sometimes they do not have the man power or time to get around to doing all the updates so some people will get rootable boxes and some won't. At least that is what I was told by more than one person that works there that I personally know, and I'll believe them before I beleve some crackpot that thinks he has decoded which can be rooted by looking at the serial number. I live less than 40 miutes away from Amazon in Lexington KY and its not uncommon to know a few people that work or have worked for Amazon. So I am beyond positive they are right about why some boxes are rootable and some are not, since they are on the inside, so they seem 100% more legit then a crackpot. Especially when different people, that actually work there, have told me the same exact way that they update fire tv boxes and why some boxes do not get updated.

porkenhimer said:
People should stop believing that anyone can tell if their fire tv is rootable by looking at the serial number, cause its impossible. I got three fire tv boxes at different times and none are rootable, but the decoder says they are. its just someone trying to take a guess and there are zero facts to say otherwise. Its funny how some people will believe anything that they read. I personally think that its a crap shoot, and that they update the boxes themselves, but sometimes they do not have the man power or time to get around to doing all the updates so some people will get rootable boxes and some won't. At least that is what I was told by more than one person that works there that I personally know, and I'll believe them before I beleve some crackpot that thinks he has decoded which can be rooted by looking at the serial number. I live less than 40 miutes away from Amazon in Lexington KY and its not uncommon to know a few people that work or have worked for Amazon. So I am beyond positive they are right about why some boxes are rootable and some are not, since they are on the inside, so they seem 100% more legit then a crackpot. Especially when different people, that actually work there, have told me the same exact way that they update fire tv boxes and why some boxes do not get updated.
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Sure it will not always worked but the decoder is just guide not 100% guaranteed but if you get one of those serial number, you have better chances that it will have root able firmware but you wont know until you actually see what is actually installed on the box
Personally, i am just thankful someone took time out to put the guide out there for free.
However, if someone is in the market i would still try to buy a box with one of those serial number. I bought 2 and they both were root able.
thank you

porkenhimer said:
People should stop believing that anyone can tell if their fire tv is rootable by looking at the serial number, cause its impossible. I got three fire tv boxes at different times and none are rootable, but the decoder says they are. its just someone trying to take a guess and there are zero facts to say otherwise. Its funny how some people will believe anything that they read. I personally think that its a crap shoot, and that they update the boxes themselves, but sometimes they do not have the man power or time to get around to doing all the updates so some people will get rootable boxes and some won't. At least that is what I was told by more than one person that works there that I personally know, and I'll believe them before I beleve some crackpot that thinks he has decoded which can be rooted by looking at the serial number. I live less than 40 miutes away from Amazon in Lexington KY and its not uncommon to know a few people that work or have worked for Amazon. So I am beyond positive they are right about why some boxes are rootable and some are not, since they are on the inside, so they seem 100% more legit then a crackpot. Especially when different people, that actually work there, have told me the same exact way that they update fire tv boxes and why some boxes do not get updated.
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You are totally out of line calling AFTVNews a crackpot after all he has done for the FireTV community. I remember your name from the i717 forums and you were negative there too. Please don't bring it here. We have a great community of respectful and helpful individuals.
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Take your negativity else where. AFTVNews put a lot of time and effort into the decoder and everything else they do. Sure nothing is 100% but something is better than just a 'Crap Shoot' on it's own.

I actually just checked the serial number on aftvnews just because I was curious... but my fire tv was indeed used so I am going soon to exchange it (staples said I can do it there)
Update: store didn't have it in stock staples already sent me Return label (told me to ignore it lol ok)
have to go another store soon. Apparently they have 2-3 in stock.

patt2k said:
I actually just checked the serial number on aftvnews just because I was curious... but my fire tv was indeed used so I am going soon to exchange it (staples said I can do it there)
Update: store didn't have it in stock staples already sent me Return label (told me to ignore it lol ok)
have to go another store soon. Apparently they have 2-3 in stock.
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Got a replacement today from staples store!
status: rootable!
Controllers: only "1" the one I just activated.
Thanks for all suggestions!

The truth is only negative when someone cannot handle it. That is not my fault. When someone does something and says it is fact, but then states that it is not 100% confirmed for every device, then its not factual, period. I am beyond positive that his crackpot method is beyond flawed. Sorry if you cannot handle me saying it.

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The truth is only negative when someone cannot handle it. That is not my fault. When someone does something and says it is fact, but then states that it is not 100% confirmed for every device, then its not factual, period. I am beyond positive that his crackpot method is beyond flawed. Sorry if you cannot handle me saying it.
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It even says on his site that its not 100%. And you can't believe what someone who works at a place says either. Unless they actually work doing wat they are saying then they could be full of ****. People like to make up **** for the departments/sections at their job that they don't do them selves and then it spreads to other people until people think its fact. I use to deal with that type of **** all the time.