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hi mods plz dont close threads too early .we`re gonna discus but you dont let us just w8 until a flame war happen then ban ppl dont close whole thread
hope you`ll do it!
i think they want the forum to close lol
Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.
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Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.
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agree...
``Delayed update`` made x10 users so angry they just want to fight doesnt matter who is it i think banning the angry mans is best way to control forum not close thread
I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree, but I am not sure I can eliminate the issue to particular members, senior or junior. There is a general temperament and hostility in almost every new thread and in some older too. Maybe closing threads is harsh, but if we want to be honest, X10 forums have become unbearable last couple of weeks. I feel we left moderators with no other choice.
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
i knew someone would start another thread, did say this to pilot. feel was harsh, as nothing had been said in the thread. If you take that stance as pilot said, stop it before it starts, then you could close every thread going that has someone stating something different to another.
Agreed !! +1
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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Since You people cant discuss anything without lowering yourselves to arguing and crying ive locked this thread
The OP can still update but you cant ***** at each other
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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no I tried...no edit option avaliable.
ok
as my job as moderator i have to sometime preemptively guess if the thread is going to go in the flame war direction. thats my job. its something the admin has asked me to do
i closed a thread about tripnraver because they are guaranteed to turn nasty.
and got complaints. tripnraver is no longer at the this forums that was his choice and he doesnt want stuff of his posted here. also whenever some one does it turns nasty
i closed a thread about the 2.3 update. because i was getting a few dozen complaints per day about this. so it wasnt a discussion as some of you claim
it had been cleaned out a total of fours time by myself and other mods. and you will still not learn
the op of this thread should not have posted it. if he had concerns he should have pm'd me so i can pm him back. otherwise this thread will be full of "oh those moderators theyre asked to look after a forum and whaddya know they close thread destined to spiral into flame wars. stupid mods"
op of 2.3 thread im still looking at a way for you to update first post
all in all if you dont want to my close threads stop posting drivel everywhere. my_immortal was right i have no other option
if you have an issue with me losing a thread pm me or email me
and if you still think i was wrong for stopping arguements then feel free to pm mikechannon or svetius
Hey, I'm not happy the way I'm being treated, after I posted something that some people didn't like, but why do I have to be treated like that and insulted and what is worse, this smart guy asks me to leave the forum? What is this? I was only being curious, this was my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16016232#post16016232
I hope real xda admins can do something about this. I didn't mean to be stupid or anything and I don't think I should be banned!!!
The fact that you brought up ios in a x10 is gonna tick people off. You really shouldnt have expected any other reaction. Look, if you like the looks of ios...then go download trips miui rom. Its pretty close. Dont know if you already tried it or not...but its worth a shot. Even cobrato has a miui rom to try. But with all the gingerbread news flying around these forums today then something ios related pops up.....dont expect people to take that very nicely.
Sorry
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you posted it in the wrong section of the forum and it does seem like a bit of a joke when we have been getting comments about 2.3.3
im sure the people in the thread who commented on it didnt mean what they said in a bad way, i posted a comment in a thread a couple of days ago and got slighty flamed for it, but hey you know what that is life and the internet.
just remember that you posted your thread in the wrong section, which is what peevs everyone this forum (even me).
I see where the op is coming from, The responses were a bit too harsh
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Hey, I'm not happy the way I'm being treated, after I posted something that some people didn't like, but why do I have to be treated like that and insulted and what is worse, this smart guy asks me to leave the forum? What is this? I was only being curious, this was my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16016232#post16016232
I hope real xda admins can do something about this. I didn't mean to be stupid or anything and I don't think I should be banned!!!
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First, you are not going to banned for the thread you posted. It's obvious that your question was offtopic and imposible I think, but I don't wan't to get into that.
Second, you don't post this publicly since it's better that you PM a moderator about this. These kind of threads clutter the forums. I already received your PM.
On that note, thread closed.
Since a lot of people don't seem to know that JT1134 has released a version of Android 4 ICS on RootzWiki (since he didn't create a thread here) I figured I'd create one with a link and try to keep it updated when a new version comes out.
This is daily driver quality already. Only issues are: Outbound MMS is non-functional, Video recording is non-functional.
Go here:
jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any case, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any ca se, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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I agree if JT wanted this posted here he would have posted it. He posts comments here still, but does not post his work here any longer. Most people know how to find his work. I suggest you delete this post.
***ATTENTION*** Mods please erase this thread as it was posted without the developers permission.
Meh
Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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edit* just noticed its just a link after reading gizmo posts. Thats not really a big deal, but I agree it should be posted in the general section.
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Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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It's so public, it was posted on a private forum and not publicly!
I really despise people like you and that djk halfwit over on Rootzwiki. You think because a developer shares his work that it's all fair game and no big whoop and people are too serious.
I would sincerely like to see you try picking up the code and doing something for the phone, having it leaked without your permission, and then still say it's all good.
You must be a child, otherwise you wouldn't be so insolent.
Is rootzwiki a private forum?
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Anyone else notice how ICS has created Flaming Zombies.
No matter what the thread or site is, it always becomes a problem.
I think Google put something in the ice cream
Are you guys seriously trying to force jt1134 into doing IRC only releases???
HINT: STOP TRYING TO PISS OFF THE FASCINATES BEST DEV!!!!
I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
It's common practice in the Android community (and all other communities) for people to post links to other forums.
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I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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Agreed...regardless info posts belong in general iirc
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It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
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I never venture into General land, so I honestly would have no idea. That place... is scary.
I can agree with you that it should be in General.
So let's get angry about the section it's in instead.
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But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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The OP didn't post Jt's work. He posted a link to Jt's thread. Big difference.
Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
Not be repetitive or continue this BS thread, but there already *is* a thread in General for jt's ICS...
It's more like someone asking "where's jt's thread" in a completely unrelated *dev* thread when it's already been answered after a dozen other folks made the same request in that same *dev* thread.
Some folks may be a tad over-reactive, but considering what we've already lost at XDA, isn't that *more* forgivable than the folks behind the very reason we've lost so much???
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Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
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seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
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But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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This is EXACTLY the point.
Meh
gunnermike said:
seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
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Looks like some of us are in withdrawal now that there's only one Enyo thread to pounce on for lulz... Mods closing that thread (and probably this one too) in 3... 2...
Has anyone seen John Connor?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375657
Wow. This place is completely ******.
I've donated to jt1134 FOUR times, and I posted a PUBLIC link on a PUBLIC forum. He can refuse to post here all he wants, but I'm completely free to post a link to guide others to the right spot.
Not one reply was necessary, let alone 2+ pages of bull**** FALSE privacy NONSENSE.
The link to JT's rom belongs in the DEV section, not General, because DEV is where people go to find ****ing ROMS. DUH! The whole reason I posted it is so the average uninformed visitor doesn't install Enyo's ICS SDK crap-fest and finds the real daily driver ICS.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375657
Wow. This place is completely *****.
I've donated to jt1134 FOUR times, and I posted a PUBLIC link on a PUBLIC forum. He can refuse to post here all he wants, but I'm completely free to post a link to guide others to the right spot.
Not one reply was necessary, let alone 3 pages of bull**** FALSE privacy NONSENSE.
The link to JT's rom belongs in the DEV section, not General, because DEV is where people go to find ****ing ROMS. The whole reason I posted it is so the average uninformed visitor doesn't install Enyo's ICS SDK crap-fest and finds the real daily driver ICS.
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Still doesn't belong in the Dev section because the Dev section is used for Devving. No Devving is going to occur in a thread that links to the real post, its an information post.
If random uninformed users flash Enyo's ICS instead of JT's that's on them for not reading.
PS - Nobody gives a **** how many times you've donated to JT, it's not like its some badge of honor that people wield about as weapons. Please put your epeen away.
Its just a phase of high drama that will hopefully pass quickly.
However, when you sit back and don't get involved, it is quite entertaining. / heading to the store for more popcorn.
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Still doesn't belong in the Dev section because the Dev section is used for Devving. No Devving is going to occur in a thread that links to the real post, its an information post.
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Awesome point.... let's talk about that. How much "devving" goes on in a rom thread? I'm going with none. They are release posts, nothing more!
The donate thing isn't a badge of honor, however I think it's an important point to prove I'm not just some leech. The system doesn't work if people don't support the developers.
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Awesome point.... let's talk about that. How much "devving" goes on in a rom thread? I'm going with none. They are release posts, nothing more!
The donate thing isn't a badge of honor, however I think it's an important point to prove I'm not just some leech. The system doesn't work if people don't support the developers.
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When people don't post garbage in threads, plenty of Devving goes on in Dev threads. Or, at least it used to. That's just one of the plethora of reasons JT no longer posts here.
Nobody called you a leech, so there was no reason to mention it.
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Its just a phase of high drama that will hopefully pass quickly.
However, when you sit back and don't get involved, it is quite entertaining. / heading to the store for more popcorn.
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Plz to bring me back some popcorn too?
Has anyone seen John Connor?
This thread also closed in 3... 2... (remember what happened the last time I posted a countdown?)
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Yeah, but that was a reported General thread in the Dev section. And I have a spare moment before it gets closed, lol.
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This thread also closed in 3... 2... (remember what happened the last time I posted a countdown?)
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Stop kanging me!
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@Gfosco it wasn't Anything personal towards you. You also could have simply pm'd me and we could have spoke about it. I closed it because it turned into pages and pages of bickering, trolling and flaming.....
Sorry for my short reply when I closed it. I was watching my kids also and was having a rough time writing also.
I totally agree with you on the pages of BS. And I'm getting pretty sick of seeing it in the dev section myself also. Trust me I'm gonna do all I can to help man.
Regarding jts Rom, I dunno. Send him a pm and ask him about posting a dev topic over here on it and I will do my best to help keep it clean.
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I have never used profanity in any of my posts nor have I ever sent it in a PM. I don't appreciate nasty, vulgar, f-bomb filled messages sent to me and I really don't like seeing it on the threads either, but since I am not the forum police I don't say much about it unless it's extremely vulgar and abusive, like the PM gfosco sent me. Anyone else who wants to get nasty, vulgar and abusive with me in a PM can expect me to expose the nature of the message for everyone to see. Count on it! /rant
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Stop kanging me!
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Sorry... I had forgotten where I first saw a countdown posted here in the forums
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Awesome point.... let's talk about that. How much "devving" goes on in a rom thread? I'm going with none. They are release posts, nothing more!
The donate thing isn't a badge of honor, however I think it's an important point to prove I'm not just some leech. The system doesn't work if people don't support the developers.
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I don't think you get it: Did you in any way consult with, ask permission for or notify jt in any way about posting a link to HIS work on this forum? If the answer is yes and he ok'ed it, then I apologize and I will go back to minding my own business. However, I know this is not what happened. You didn't ask his permission in any way and therefore you stepped over the line. Now, is it a really big deal, no. But, many of us are friends with jt (as much as you can be through the internet), we spend a lot of time in IRC together. So, we know his wishes regarding HIS work and we respect that. He has stated in NO way does he want any of his work posted on xda. We would rather not have jt say fu** it and stop posting builds on the forums period because his wishes aren't being considered. That would screw over a lot of people like yourself (who donate to jt) and there would be NO links at all to post, like the one you posted. The conclusion: was what you did, in itself, wrong? No. But you did not ask his permission to post HIS intellectual property on this forum, and that my friend is wrong. Did many of us sort of "attack" you for doing it? In a way yes, but you understand why. Please respect the wishes of the developers, and if you don't know there wishes....ask.
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@Gfosco it wasn't Anything personal towards you. You also could have simply pm'd me and we could have spoke about it. I closed it because it turned into pages and pages of bickering, trolling and flaming.....
Sorry for my short reply when I closed it. I was watching my kids also and was having a rough time writing also.
I totally agree with you on the pages of BS. And I'm getting pretty sick of seeing it in the dev section myself also. Trust me I'm gonna do all I can to help man.
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@joshkoss I have no issue with you closing the thread.. I would have closed it too.
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I don't think you get it: Did you in any way consult with, ask permission for or notify jt in any way about posting a link to HIS work on this forum? If the answer is yes and he ok'ed it, then I apologize and I will go back to minding my own business. However, I know this is not what happened. You didn't ask his permission in any way and therefore you stepped over the line. Now, is it a really big deal, no. But, many of us are friends with jt (as much as you can be through the internet), we spend a lot of time in IRC together. So, we know his wishes regarding HIS work and we respect that. He has stated in NO way does he want any of his work posted on xda. We would rather not have jt say fu** it and stop posting builds on the forums period because his wishes aren't being considered. That would screw over a lot of people like yourself (who donate to jt) and there would be NO links at all to post, like the one you posted. The conclusion: was what you did, in itself, wrong? No. But you did not ask his permission to post HIS intellectual property on this forum, and that my friend is wrong. Did many of us sort of "attack" you for doing it? In a way yes, but you understand why. Please respect the wishes of the developers, and if you don't know there wishes....ask.
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I don't need to ask permission from anyone to post a link to a thread on Rootzwiki.
Look, it doesn't make sense and I don't believe that JT is that fake-private about posting his work. (And I didn't post or re-share his ROM, only a link to Rootzwiki.) If it's public on Rootzwiki, why is anyone to think it's not straight up ****ing public?
Skynet! post that ****! I want to read what gfosco said!!!!
OK guys. I'm just gonna close the thread before things get to personal here.
Tomorrow morning ill b addressing this issue.
Peace, Josh
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I've heard some rumor that on XDA if someone mentioned or discussed a certain kernel he/she could get issued a warning or infraction or banned. Didn't believe it until today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30345496&postcount=68
Very interesting since:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28654721&postcount=2856
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29175772&postcount=2897
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203761
WOW!
I know its a bunch of BS if u ask me.
running ZR3D test rom
by TEAM IMAGIKA
with UNDERWORLD v.8 kernel
Why is that Kernel outlawed?
From what i heard its cuz he violated the gpl or something. But im not sure.
running ZR3D test rom
by TEAM IMAGIKA
with UNDERWORLD v.8 kernel
i think the babies in the 3d forum caused it because they were jelly.
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i think the babies in the 3d forum caused it because they were jelly.
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lmao alaman68
I can tell u from being involved in this that tgere are good reaaons for this so please don't start rioting. The dev has asked that his name and kernel be kept off xda due to drqma in the 3d section and for diferences of opinions on gpl compliences. So it has been outlawed on xda. Any mention of them will be removed and a warning issued. Do it again u will either get an infraction or ban depending on situation. I ask that you guys do not get involved in the past issues as they have been resolved and no reason to open up old wounds
Edit: I edited most of those posts in the links in op.
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