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Its about time says engadet Sprints HTC Hero 2.1!

Or dud!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/sprints-htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-finally-coming-on-may-7/

What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)

I am amazed engadget sourced it! wow....

guess to get guys like u mad. hahaha
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I care about the week after it comes out I'm sure our devs will greatly enhance.
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DevinXtreme said:
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
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Because his post was about engadgets reaction and not the post on here?

DevinXtreme said:
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
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RUDE **** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some **** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a ****.

I think the issue here is that there is an already active thread about the Sprint 2.1 release date. The mods already combined threads together.
Apparently, the release date of the 2.1 image is causing some people to lose patience and tempers. Not trying to excuse it, just offering a possible explanation.

As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.

mikehager66 said:
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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Share all you want. Just make sure there's not 50 threads about it already. It's fairly easy to use search (even though you say you have a problem with it) for '2.1 release' or 'sprint 2.1' or something. It's all in your search terms. People don't tend to get pissed off unless there have already been a LOT of threads posted...and until recently the mods weren't doing a whole lot of moderating so we'd have 10-15 posts on Sprint 2.1 rumors...which is why each time someone opens a thread like that they get jumped on.

skantman69 said:
RUDE **** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some **** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a ****.
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It doesn't help when people like you make an obvious troll post like the one I quoted. If you have a problem with someone, take it PM's, we don't want to read about it.

skantman69 said:
RUDE ***** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some ***** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a *****.
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mikehager66 said:
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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1. Read This.
Not only that but, unlike you, he didn't use inflammatory language or resort to name-calling. I fail to see how his post was rude.
2. The point is, he didn't even have to do a search, he just needed to pay attention. The article he linked, links right back here...to our very own forum.
This is a developer's forum folks. Even noobs are expected to be proficient in certain areas. Like searching. If you don't like the search feature provided by XDA, use Google and specify XDA as the search location. In most cases, if you didn't spend an hour searching, you didn't give due-diligence. Think that sounds like too much work? Hey, post away! But don't get upset when someone points out your negligence. I am not picking on you, op, and I certainly am not trying to be hostile towards you or anyone else. There have been a lot of posts lately attacking forum users who are simply trying to get others to follow forum rules. Remember, knowing how to click the search button and knowing how to properly search are 2 different things.

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Rule 2 tells you all you need to know about how to interact with others on here.
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Just cleaned this thread up. Please keep on topic and avoid the rude and abusive posts.
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God I love having Mods pay attention to us now!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!

People learn by being taught in a proper manner. Excuse my offensive language but why do people need to be a smart butt to someone that doesn't know. I'm sure since one of the guys first post and interaction is met with rudeness. I guess there needs to be a huge disclaimer on top of this website that says noobs please take your business elsewhere. Remember everyone here is not perfect and everyone was once new to this website. I see this kind of stuff all the time.

One if the beauties of being human is that we have the ability to learn from the observation of others, not just direct, personal experience.

tejasrichard said:
1. Read This.
Not only that but, unlike you, he didn't use inflammatory language or resort to name-calling. I fail to see how his post was rude.
2. The point is, he didn't even have to do a search, he just needed to pay attention. The article he linked, links right back here...to our very own forum.
This is a developer's forum folks. Even noobs are expected to be proficient in certain areas. Like searching. If you don't like the search feature provided by XDA, use Google and specify XDA as the search location. In most cases, if you didn't spend an hour searching, you didn't give due-diligence. Think that sounds like too much work? Hey, post away! But don't get upset when someone points out your negligence. I am not picking on you, op, and I certainly am not trying to be hostile towards you or anyone else. There have been a lot of posts lately attacking forum users who are simply trying to get others to follow forum rules. Remember, knowing how to click the search button and knowing how to properly search are 2 different things.
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Sigh. Thank you. I was going to post about exactly this, but didn't really have the motivation. My post wasn't meant to be rude or flaming, but asking a direct question. I'm still incredibly new to these forums, but I lurked before I finally joined and knew what to expect. I search, and I've been successful in finding my answer all but once. And even when I did post my question, it just turns out I wasn't searching hard enough. The reason I bring all this up is that all the threads posting with the same information, especially when they have to do with 2.1 rumors (which bogs down a search for ANYTHING related to the 2.1 releases).
Point is, I wasn't intending to be rude, but was met with rudeness anyway. The people complaining are just as bad as the people they're complaining about.
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People learn by being taught in a proper manner. Excuse my offensive language but why do people need to be a smart butt to someone that doesn't know. I'm sure since one of the guys first post and interaction is met with rudeness. I guess there needs to be a huge disclaimer on top of this website that says noobs please take your business elsewhere. Remember everyone here is not perfect and everyone was once new to this website. I see this kind of stuff all the time.
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The OP has 279 posts (as of this posting) and has been a member since February 2010. This is far from "one of his first posts." :/

[Q] Debranding

Hi peeps. Im starting to get really ticked off by the branding string in the build properties.
What do i have to do in build.prop to stop the android market seeing my xoom as a verizon device and see it instead as a viewsonic gtab or whatever?

Why is everyone posting questions in the dev section?

Because they can't read
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let me explain why...
its because i am a dev myself, and i have been here long enough to know that at this stage in a subforum's development no-one from the dev community ever looks in the general subsection
welcome to reality
also, you should understand this perfectly well having joined in 2009... or are you just a snob with a post count?

One might ask what he is implying you cannot read.

Nothing we say will help. Makes me sad they don't know how to follow the rules and have common sense. All you get by posting a question in a dev forum instead of general or q/a is people telling you to post in the right thread. Just do it and they will help.
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Maybe you'll get a better answer if you try posting in the right section for considering yourself a dev you're good at being stupid

Create a "XOOM Hacking Help and Advanced Discussion" Subforum.
Problem solved.

PaulG1488 said:
Maybe you'll get a better answer if you try posting in the right section for considering yourself a dev you're good at being stupid
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It's hilarious how so many people on forums get their geek tighty-whities in such a bunch when (god forbid!) people don't follow perfect forum etiquette, even when they have a legitimately good reason for doing so. Get over yourselves.

joeski27 said:
It's hilarious how so many people on forums get their geek tighty-whities in such a bunch when (god forbid!) people don't follow perfect forum etiquette, even when they have a legitimately good reason for doing so. Get over yourselves.
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He had no good reason he considered himself a dev and yet doesn't have common sense to post his question in the right section

a Dev? Are you kidding? His app is still stuck on beta test stage and they couldn't make it done....

Perhaps if any of you tight-ass teenagers had read my reasons for posting in this subsection (its the third post, refer to it if you please), you would think again.
And my app is not stuck in beta, the draft is on the market and all the beta testers have already received their free rc. They are all happy with it.
If you really knew this forum, you would not be saying those silly, childish things. And if you dont know how to help, speak less lest you hinder instead.

ftgg99 said:
Perhaps if any of you tight-ass teenagers had read my reasons for posting in this subsection (its the third post, refer to it if you please), you would think again.
And my app is not stuck in beta, the draft is on the market and all the beta testers have already received their free rc. They are all happy with it.
If you really knew this forum, you would not be saying those silly, childish things. And if you dont know how to help, speak less lest you hinder instead.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.racic.android.marketenabler
I think if you posted in the right section this would have been answered regardless.... if you really knew this forum you would know that you were gonna get flamed.
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Yeah... thats not what im looking for as its a cdma verizon only device at this point.
Also chongo, i know this forum, and i know flamers too. Theyre kids with nothing better to do. Again, refer to the third post in this thread for a grown-ups explanation.

ftgg99 said:
Yeah... thats not what im looking for as its a cdma verizon only device at this point.
Also chongo, i know this forum, and i know flamers too. Theyre kids with nothing better to do. Again, refer to the third post in this thread for a grown-ups explanation.
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I did read it and I don't need a "grown ups" explanation... do you need an explanation of forum rules? No I didn't think so... like I said posting this in the right section would have gotten you better results. Disagree? Then enjoy your "answers"
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You are contributing to these answers. I suppose you like being a flamer. The anonymity of the internet provides you with a safe place from which to mindlessly attack others in the vain hope that it will expose your superior intellect and regard for the rules.
If you were a grown up guy, you would be doing something useful. Perhaps graduating from 'young android enthusiast' to 'productive member of society'...

ftgg99 said:
You are contributing to these answers. I suppose you like being a flamer. The anonymity of the internet provides you with a safe place from which to mindlessly attack others in the vain hope that it will expose your superior intellect and regard for the rules.
If you were a grown up guy, you would be doing something useful. Perhaps graduating from 'young android enthusiast' to 'productive member of society'...
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I actually was contributing by trying to tell you where to post to get the best results.... not some mindless attack. "The anonymity of the internet provides you with a safe place from which to mindlessly attack others in the vain hope that it will expose your superior intellect and regard for the rules." Anonymity? Actually my name is Morgan Brant and I live at 2215 ontario street. Do I really need a safe place to talk... no not really... oh and a productive member of society? I'm actually a full time student and a full time photographer... don't believe me? Maybe you can do more then check my "Bio" when trying to school me with your pathetic elitest attitude.
www.chongophoto.com edit: not promoting myself what so ever... unless your in vancouver
I'd say back to topic... but really come on... lets just let the mods shut this down or better yet move it to Q/A
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God bless Akmerica. (Am I allowed to post in here since I only half develope using app inventor? I did make my own speed dial app where u press a pic to call someone... thats got to count)
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Wow. Do much hatred. Yes, technically questions don't belong here. But, if he had worded the post differently, nobody would mind. "[PROJ] debranding the XOOM let's figure out how to change the build.prop..."
Now, since we're already here and on the subject... anyone had any success with this?

Apparently being a "DEV" means you no longer have to fallow forum rules and you can pretty much do what ever you want. Sounds cool..
Also since your a developer shouldn't you already know how to change the build.prop?

News about current circumstances

As some of you may have noticed a few threads have dissappeared in the DEV section
This is because of two reasons, the first being the Developer wanting to leave xda, the second being the sheer level of bad language to be found in them.
I also want to remind everyone that opening a topic to ask a developers to come back is not helpful or wanted, and they are currently being deleted. And those certain members who feel hat they have been wronged and start rom bashing. will be dealt with severely
Please Feel free to PM me or any other mod with a concern
best regards
PiLoT

Can u post some harsh rules in the forum?? Like banning abusers etc??.
VIPER

viper619 said:
Can u post some harsh rules in the forum?? Like banning abusers etc??.
VIPER
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no x10 section is under the enter forums rules, however if a person spams or trolls then they get seen to fast

In other words the rules you agreed to when you registered.

an idea, or suggestion, but...
i [read no one of importance] think this would be an opportune time to clean things up in the different forums, maybe enforce a general guideline for devs in thread naming and structure, maybe eliminate some of the stickies that are no longer needed [ie 2.1 after effects and 2.1 rom coming soon, petition for froyo, etc] so more important stickies don't get lost in sticky land [ie forum rules/guidelines].
i think with some structure and uniform, people wouldn't be so quick with the "create another thread about gingerbread coming" mentality.
just a suggestion and in no way telling anyone how to moderate their forum.

This dev who shall not be named has many people who adrore or hate him . The people who liked him are now taking everychance to criticize other devs
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svtfmook said:
an idea, or suggestion, but...
i [read no one of importance] think this would be an opportune time to clean things up in the different forums, maybe enforce a general guideline for devs in thread naming and structure, maybe eliminate some of the stickies that are no longer needed [ie 2.1 after effects and 2.1 rom coming soon, petition for froyo, etc] so more important stickies don't get lost in sticky land [ie forum rules/guidelines].
i think with some structure and uniform, people wouldn't be so quick with the "create another thread about gingerbread coming" mentality.
just a suggestion and in no way telling anyone how to moderate their forum.
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ill be getting round to this later today

Apparently this has arise again today, it was matter of time. We need a community of sharing and friendly environment without threads turning in flame wars and offensive. Actions will be trigger to those who fuel this no matter what their status are (devs or members).
Thanks,

Mr. Clown said:
Apparently this has arise again today, it was matter of time. We need a community of sharing and friendly environment without threads turning in flame wars and offensive. Actions will be trigger to those who fuel this no matter what their status are (devs or members).
Thanks,
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Just one question could you please kindly explain why you mods just delete Trip's threads while you clean up other threads If the same thing happens? I think if you ban the flamers does the job not to delete the whole thing. Thanks
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Wow. I thought it was over. What the hell happened??????????
It's not even been a month since it happened the last time. This is saddening.

Mortyx10 said:
Just one question could you please kindly explain why you mods just delete Trip's threads while you clean up other threads If the same thing happens? I think if you ban the flamers does the job not to delete the whole thing. Thanks
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It doesn't help that the dev I shall not name is a flamer himself.
Just saying.

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It doesn't help that the dev I shall not name is a flamer himself.
Just saying.
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Yep! I agree. I stopped posting in his threads, but I do read. And i gotta say, he says alot of ignorant crap directed at other devs. Its a bit taunting really. I would flame the hell out of him, but im not in the mood to get banned..
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you mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k
Edit: Actually, I don't want to get banned either Please delete if you think its in bad taste

pngface said:
you mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k
Edit: Actually, I don't want to get banned either Please delete if you think its in bad taste
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Hahahaha yes! Like that.
Way to bring in the humor
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Free open source is being misused. These devs are contributing for free. Free source doesn't mean we can expect slavery or even cooperation.
What? Are you going to say that since a person isn't updating or contributing fast enough, or even having disagreements with others, that they don't deserve the opportunity to participate in an open and free forum?
Edit: Not to mention, that most of the people *****ing are senior members who contribute nothing more than assistance to noobs who break more xda rules than any developer, and the fact that Trip provides some of the best ROMs for the X10 should elevate him to untouchable status.
Anyone who talks **** about Trip better be a majorly contributing developer, otherwise just shut up.

agentJBM said:
Free open source is being misused. These devs are contributing for free. Free source doesn't mean we can expect slavery or even cooperation.
What? Are you going to say that since a person isn't updating or contributing fast enough, or even having disagreements with others, that they don't deserve the opportunity to participate in an open and free forum?
We have senior members who contribute nothing more than assistance to noobs who break more xda rules than any dev.
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I agree with you. They offer a ROM that is free for everyone to use. Where does it say that they are obliged to update it? Whether they do or don't is completely up to them. As for the flaming and taunting, I do not agree with that and everyone, whether its a dev, mod or member should exercise courtesy and respect towards others. It seems that this forum has turned into a soap opera lately which is really disappointing.

-PiLoT- said:
As some of you may have noticed a few threads have dissappeared in the DEV section
This is because of two reasons, the first being the Developer not willing to work on updates, the second being the sheer level of bad language to be found in them.
I also want to remind everyone that opening a topic to ask a developers to come back is not helpful or wanted, and they are currently being deleted. And those certain members who feel hat they have been wronged and start rom bashing. will be dealt with severely
Please Feel free to PM me or any other mod with a concern
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Just a small thinking.Well,I don't want to be banned
Just ignore me if this is offensive
You firstly mentioned that that dev doesn't have the intension to continue his work.But I am wondering if he had given such comments here on his/other posts.Would you mind to provide some evidence?I am pretty sure that you deleted the posts after you have read some of his comments.
For the sheer level of bad language,I always read post.
In a war,yes,it is no doubt that some devs here are/were arguing because someone want to protect his own work,personally I think it would be better to define the level of bad language.Calling people a copycat,saying someone is a glitch violate the rules?Language is not maths,meanings of word varies from person to person.
Also,it is understanding that someone speaks bit rudely when he is in anger.
Furthermore,what if that dev really can show some evidence that someone might forget to give him credit?
Thanks for reading
regards,
L

Really disappointed about what has happened here. I woke up to see the x10 forums in pieces.
I'm sure the aim of this forum is to forge cohesiveness between users who are willing to learn and share with developers who are willing to selflessly Take time out of their busy schedule to cook up roms for our users
I know that whatever I'm gonna say here ain't gonna change the mod ' s mind but I hope the mods can really come clean about what really happened here instead of using vague terms like "attitude problem" or "unwilling to work on updates" when he releases updates almost once a day. Just like a democratic government, and citizens of a democracy, transparency and accountability to the people should top priority
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Sad to see him leave, only for the developments he provided to X10, the conflict wont be missed but what I seem to be missing is about 30 or 40 post to my post count. This has happened before to me when he closed/deleted a thread of his. It is not really important in the grand scheme of things but my posts were not offensive, mostly helpful and relevant questions to Trip or others. Is it fair that I (others also) loose or have a reduction to their post count throught the deletion of the thread? I dont post a lot so will take a little time to build it back up lol. Cheers

Mortyx10 said:
Just one question could you please kindly explain why you mods just delete Trip's threads while you clean up other threads If the same thing happens? I think if you ban the flamers does the job not to delete the whole thing. Thanks
Agree with above....
Also how can mods say "one reason was because he didnt work on updates"... WTF.... He does this for FREE and where in rules does it say "if u release a rom then u must provide frequent updates"
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[JT1134][ROM] IceCreamSandwich AlphaLulz v3 [11/28]

Since a lot of people don't seem to know that JT1134 has released a version of Android 4 ICS on RootzWiki (since he didn't create a thread here) I figured I'd create one with a link and try to keep it updated when a new version comes out.
This is daily driver quality already. Only issues are: Outbound MMS is non-functional, Video recording is non-functional.
Go here:

jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any case, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?

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jt1134 refuses to post his work on XDA due to a long-running dispute over the flaming that goes on here (ironically his ICS thread over on Rootzwiki is full of what chopper the dog calls "noobsause"). In any ca se, if he refuses to post his work here, how do you think he'd feel about someone else doing so? I don't mean any harm, because I'm sure you didn't know about this and you're just trying to be helpful, but in the future, you'll profit from asking the dev first if he'll let you post his work here.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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I agree if JT wanted this posted here he would have posted it. He posts comments here still, but does not post his work here any longer. Most people know how to find his work. I suggest you delete this post.

***ATTENTION*** Mods please erase this thread as it was posted without the developers permission.
Meh

Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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edit* just noticed its just a link after reading gizmo posts. Thats not really a big deal, but I agree it should be posted in the general section.

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Lmao u guys take this stuff too serious. its all public
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It's so public, it was posted on a private forum and not publicly!
I really despise people like you and that djk halfwit over on Rootzwiki. You think because a developer shares his work that it's all fair game and no big whoop and people are too serious.
I would sincerely like to see you try picking up the code and doing something for the phone, having it leaked without your permission, and then still say it's all good.
You must be a child, otherwise you wouldn't be so insolent.

Is rootzwiki a private forum?
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Anyone else notice how ICS has created Flaming Zombies.
No matter what the thread or site is, it always becomes a problem.
I think Google put something in the ice cream

Are you guys seriously trying to force jt1134 into doing IRC only releases???
HINT: STOP TRYING TO PISS OFF THE FASCINATES BEST DEV!!!!

I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
It's common practice in the Android community (and all other communities) for people to post links to other forums.

GizmoDroid said:
I'm a fan of Jt's, but guys... its a link. No one should be upset over a link.
Heck, it's not even a direct link. It's just a link to Jt's thread.
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Agreed...regardless info posts belong in general iirc

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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?

But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?

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We have a thread in General on this, already, do we not?
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I never venture into General land, so I honestly would have no idea. That place... is scary.
I can agree with you that it should be in General.
So let's get angry about the section it's in instead.
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But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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The OP didn't post Jt's work. He posted a link to Jt's thread. Big difference.

Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )

Not be repetitive or continue this BS thread, but there already *is* a thread in General for jt's ICS...
It's more like someone asking "where's jt's thread" in a completely unrelated *dev* thread when it's already been answered after a dozen other folks made the same request in that same *dev* thread.
Some folks may be a tad over-reactive, but considering what we've already lost at XDA, isn't that *more* forgivable than the folks behind the very reason we've lost so much???

landshark68 said:
Come on everyone. No need to be fighting with one another over a link to a thread at another site. Nitsuj and Gizmo are right. Gfosco didn't post a download link for the ROM. What gfosco did is no different than someone asking "hey I heard jt made an ics rom for the fascinate but I don't see it here" and gfosco replied, "It's over at rootzwiki." There may be fascinate users who do not stray away from XDA much and gfosco is simply doing the community a service by making everyone aware of the ROM and where to find it. Thumbs up gfosco (just remember, the link isn't ROM development so this thread should have gone in general )
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seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.

bigjobber69 said:
But still JT doesnt post his work here and has expressed that he doesnt want his stuff here. Its just simple respect, isnt that practiced in the android community?
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This is EXACTLY the point.
Meh

gunnermike said:
seriously theres WAY better threads to flame!! ill link them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324771
these are much more fun to flame.
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Looks like some of us are in withdrawal now that there's only one Enyo thread to pounce on for lulz... Mods closing that thread (and probably this one too) in 3... 2...
Has anyone seen John Connor?

Why are there two different Nexus 4 Development Threads?

1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?

FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.

Not sure but I have been running code fire x BR2 with matrix kernel in the original section and loving this combo!:thumbup:
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OK, if someone could please move this to the QA thread please. Didnt know if it had to do with this thread if it should be in here... wasnt really a question about the nexus

DATSUN.510 said:
FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
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Agreed
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ml3000 said:
1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
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original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!

Original Android Dev has "ORIGINAL" DEV. It has official ports and works that are ORIGINAL and NEW.
The other has port and custom built roms.
Hope this helps and IB4L

Its to fake out all the people that like posting questions in the developers thread.
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tspx23 said:
original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
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Ahh, makes perfect sense, thanks.
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Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know

Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Nuff bromance thread jacking.
Ask questions in the question sub forum...common sense ain't so common.
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Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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NoLunchBox_ said:
Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.

Hung0702 said:
Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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To inform ppl & to direct our newer members to the correct forums is one thing, But to make fun of or to ridicule users is another & not acceptable let alone helpful. Its because of [email protected]$$ comments like that, that alot of users have left to other Android forums. Bravo you deserve a star for that...NOT.
If you actually read my post above you would see that I was not referring to our members that were helpful, But only the ones that creat a bad user experience for our newer/older members alike. Kind of like you. I rest my case.
There's a reason that not everybody is a mod. Thankfully you are not
MODS please close/move this thread to the correct forum already.

Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.

Stryder5 said:
It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
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My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...

Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.

Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Rather than carrying out this conversation over a thread that has already been answered, I went ahead and PM'ed you to prevent spamming up this thread.
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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I agree with you Hung. Your responses have been well-written and appropriate. I also agree that Dave's posts have been more instigating than anything else. However, I think it would be best to take this to PM as I have. I wrote out a nice response, similar to the kind you have written and sent it via PM so it doesn't look like we are arguing on the boards. Let's keep it clean. I encourage Dave to do the same and reply via PM

Hung0702 said:
Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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Save the drama. I'm not going to babysit you (I'm not a mod) or go digging through your posts trying to prove to everyone what's already been said & done/seen. Your posts speak for themselves, need I say more?.
Your previous posts where anything but appropriate but everyone is entitled to their opinion... Even Stryder.
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What the hell, u asked so here I am babysitting (last time Hung)
Hung0702 said:
(1) -Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
(2) -It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like.
(3) -You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
(4) -you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!"
(5) - "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
(6) - Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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(1) Abuse aimed directly at another forum member (directly at 2 members actually)
(2) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members + Name calling
(3) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
(4) Spreading lies about other forum members who said no such thing or did such a thing
(5) Making more false statements about other forum members who said or did no such thing
(6) Borderline Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
Yeah... Real appropriate. I'm done wasting my time with you. I could go on but I'll stop here as I have more important things to do than argue with ... well ...you
Hows that for (in your words) "exact"?
You create a horrible abusive user experience here at XDA. I'm ashamed to have even replyed to you.
It's no wonder why so many people have left XDA to goto other forums when opinionated extremists like yourself are belittling & harassing every new member that comes along.
You talk nonsense to me & I'll put you in your place. Nothing you could do or say could faze me the slightest, But new members who haven't been around as long feel harassed, threatened & uncomfortable when you abuse them (like you tried to do with me & NoLunchBox_) & they leave for other forums.
Recognize
MODERATORS please move this thread to the proper forum & close. The OP got his answer and now it has just become an abuse thread

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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