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KP's Beta #4 vs Ninja vs Red Pill

I figured since there are 3 really good ROMs out right now, but I don't have the time to really test them out, I figure I would ask the question here.
Kenneth's Beta #4
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Dorian's Red Pill
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Sam's Ninja
What are the pros and cons of each that you guys have noticed? I'm looking to jump to one, but don't have all the time in the world. I've left out CherryBlur since it's based off of 4.5.2 and I would like to use themes Nottach has created.

kshiuan said:
I figured since there are 3 really good ROMs out right now, but I don't have the time to really test them out, I figure I would ask the question here.
Kenneth's Beta #4
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Dorian's Red Pill
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Sam's Ninja
What are the pros and cons of each that you guys have noticed? I'm looking to jump to one, but don't have all the time in the world.
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your asking about personal preference which can be dangerous since people want to believe they are always right lol so be wary im using ken's rom and its pretty stock to what was released is really fast nice ui and can be flashed back, all these roms run well so its all a matter of which ui appeals to you if you like the new version of motoblur then thats mostly kens if u want a gingerbread(black and green) thats ninja although im not sure if the dock is on gb yet and im not aware of what red pill looks like but to be straight forward so far the two ive run sams and kens both run great its a ui preference.

I run Cherryblur and its my favorite so far, then I say Kenns since its just a stock ATT rom which is why it has the least amount of bugs.

TechnoNeto said:
your asking about personal preference which can be dangerous since people want to believe they are always right lol so be wary im using ken's rom and its pretty stock to what was released is really fast nice ui and can be flashed back, all these roms run well so its all a matter of which ui appeals to you if you like the new version of motoblur then thats mostly kens if u want a gingerbread(black and green) thats ninja although im not sure if the dock is on gb yet and im not aware of what red pill looks like but to be straight forward so far the two ive run sams and kens both run great its a ui preference.
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Alright sounds good. I wasn't too sure in terms of performance. I didn't know it was basically a ui thing.

kshiuan said:
Alright sounds good. I wasn't too sure in terms of performance. I didn't know it was basically a ui thing.
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ya althoug other roms claim to have performance tweaks they are all based of the same thing we dont have any roms that arent based off of the att stock one, yet lol

KP's rom with extras
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182545

i created ninja, i cn personally tell you i created it from att stock 100% ninja speed freak is the fastest rom available, prob the most stable too. as it is the one that has the least amount of mods. ninjas goals are too create the most stable base for anyone to modify themselfs. i have one confirm rom comming soon based off ninja speed freak.
kenns and navalynts are also great works. but they have different goals.
once im done working on cm7 and gentop ninja will be compile from source. based off aosp.

I love Ninja SF! tried cherryblur, too buggy for my tastes. And then KP'S rom was nice, but its just stock.
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samcripp said:
i created ninja, i cn personally tell you i created it from att stock 100% ninja speed freak is the fastest rom available, prob the most stable too. as it is the one that has the least amount of mods. ninjas goals are too create the most stable base for anyone to modify themselfs. i have one confirm rom comming soon based off ninja speed freak.
kenns and navalynts are also great works. but they have different goals.
once im done working on cm7 and gentop ninja will be compile from source. based off aosp.
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i was looking to try ninja the most. however, i was still wondering what speed freak was compared to the original. i looked through the thread and couldn't really see anything detailing what speed freak change over the regular ninja. thanks sam.

kshiuan said:
i was looking to try ninja the most. however, i was still wondering what speed freak was compared to the original. i looked through the thread and couldn't really see anything detailing what speed freak change over the regular ninja. thanks sam.
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speed freak is a bit leaner and prepackg with fauxs kernel!

samcripp said:
speed freak is a bit leaner and prepackg with fauxs kernel!
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With no battery drain? I thought faux's kernel was causing battery drain issues.

kshiuan said:
With no battery drain? I thought faux's kernel was causing battery drain issues.
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Fauxs kernel doesn't give me any drain. On the contrary, my battery life is amazing! I'm undervolted and OC'D
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Ninja SF for the win.
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Sinful Animosity said:
Fauxs kernel doesn't give me any drain. On the contrary, my battery life is amazing! I'm undervolted and OC'D
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Oh. I'm an idiot. I've been gone too long. Getting thrown into this after GB and the rush of ROMs and kernel being created is bogging down on me...I apologize to the community.

I have been using CherryBlur v0.5 with faux123's latest kernel and Mattedblues theme. Battery life seems pretty good, speed is wonderful and everything just works. I haven't tried any of the other ROM's because I have everything setup like I want it and just don't feel like setting up again. I will not run the later CherryBlur ROM's because the themes will not work with them. Right now I believe all of the ROM's should perform pretty similar since they are all based off of the same source(except for CherryBlur v1+).

Ronaldo_9 said:
KP's rom with extras
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182545
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yep... that's my favorite

Ninja Speed Freak v0.4.5. FTW

Anyone notice touchscreen lag or unresponsiveness on any of these ROMs? I just tried out all 3 actually, and all 3 of them have the same issue where my touches don't get registered if I'm using the touchscreen heavily.

Ninja SF all day everyday even on a Sunday. I like what Sam has done with his rom. Plus I like Sam's style! KP's is nice too. Red pill is red duh I know but I hate the color and because of that I haven't tried it.
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i tried cherry and ronaldo's mod kens' beta 4.5
cherry is super smooth but it only has three page homescreen
beta 4.5 is a bit lag when going through page to page. but still acceptable.
i like ronaldo's mod kens' beta 4.5 better

ROM Reviews and Discussion

Hi guys,
Still on stock ROM, but looking to flash a new one really soon - looked through both Original and Development threads and haven't been very confident so far. Why?
The most popular ones seem to be Lightening and VillainROM, but I haven't found any comprehensive reviews of their battery life and performance - VillainROM doesn't have screenshots either. Mostly the posts on their threads are questions or debugging or pointing out bugs, so its hard to get a proper gauge.
So what are your thoughts on the ROMs so far? Looking for the usual - good battery, stability, performance. I don't care much for the blue of Lightening but as long as it works, it works. What makes it different from Villain?
Also appreciate any other ROMs that may be good to install!
Thanks!

One of the best and smoothest ROMs I've tried has been CyanogenMod 7. Its stable (even in the 7.1 RC), fast, good battery life and reliable. Check it out, its a definite favorite in my book
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So far I've only tested VillainROM. I'm waiting for a more stable CM7 to try it out, but until then VR seems to be okay. To be honest there's nothing special about it. Battery life is acceptable, it's close to a stock rom, it doesn't have bugs, it has Nimpo kernel, vrtweaks which let you install some mods more easily, and the devs are skilled and helpful. That's enough for me

TheSaw said:
So far I've only tested VillainROM. I'm waiting for a more stable CM7 to try it out, but until then VR seems to be okay. To be honest there's nothing special about it. Battery life is acceptable, it's close to a stock rom, it doesn't have bugs, it has Nimpo kernel, vrtweaks which let you install some mods more easily, and the devs are skilled and helpful. That's enough for me
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Which one of this roms has BLN already activated?
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I've now used villain, darkys, adam's aosp, CM7 and MIUI.
All great roms. Villain and darky are both quite close too stock TW. AdamG AOSP is as about as close to androidstock as you can get-which is clean and simple. CM7 is the ultimate ROM for the tweaker and hacker and its also v fast.
MIUI is the most visually different rom. It looks completely different and has some great visual cues. Battery life its also v good on the latest build (.29 beta 32). Its the one I'm using at the moment, but I switch between it and CM7 on occasion.
you won't go wrong with any and although they aren't fully stable (the non TW ones). I've never had any stability issues with them. Just be prepared to not have an fm radio or full bluetooth audio...
My 2 cents, hope it helps!
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P.s. Not sure about lightening but one of the earlier builds of villain gave me the best battery life ever on this phone. I think it was 1.4, but this was about a month ago..
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EmilianM said:
Which one of this roms has BLN already activated?
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There are quite a few, VillainROM is included. You can also flash a BLN compatible kernel to make BLN work.

Thanks, I may want to stick close to TW-based ROMs for the time being until CM7 is stable and GS2-friendly then I've done MIUI before, its a fantastic ROM for older phones, but of course there's problems with translations sometimes and the UI gets old/too iphone after a while.

currently on lightening 2.2 with nimphetamine 2.04 kernal. More than happy with my battery. I get more than a days use out of it quite easily, battery loss is about 1% an hour in standby and the rom itself is very stable. Ive never had a force close, reboot or anything. Im using the steel blue theme too as i like the look of the icons more.
Ive no plans to try any other roms until a fully released cynagen rom is available which i will try, just to see what the fuss is about more than anything.

any ideas how close we are to a stable cm7 release?
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drasifriaz said:
any ideas how close we are to a stable cm7 release?
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I would also like to know.

A VillainROM user here along with ninphetamine kernel I find this the best combination, battery life is awesome and the devs are useful. It's smooth fast and just well top notch.
I've tried many roms but always come back to VR. The best thing to do is try them and find one for your own liking there are dozens to choose from now. In the future I'll try CM7 as I used to run that on my DHD but as of now I'm happy with the TW roms.
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Batista70 ROM w/ Ninpo's 2.0.5 kernel here, so far so good. Runs smooth and quite battery-friendly.
I've used Lite'ning also but somehow the I've run into some battery drain issues with it before. Eye'ing CM7 once it gets a stable release.

The latest CM7 nightly, 13, is running really well, it all seems just as it was on my Desire so far, no crashes, just a lockscreen hang every now and again.
Don't know about the Bluetooth audio as I prefer a wired headset.
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CM is the nuts

knny said:
CM is the nuts
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"Gold Spade of the Year" for you

Hanczak said:
"Gold Spade of the Year" for you
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what does that mean, mate?

knny said:
what does that mean, mate?
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I mean that he was digging very long to find this thread...

Hanczak said:
I mean that he was digging very long to find this thread...
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I've had this thread subscribed since the beginning and today I just desided to share my experience with CM

Best battery life for Froyo?

I'm considering going back to froyo from EH17, and I was wondering what would be the best setup for battery life?
One I have in mind is SRF 1.2 w/ Genocide Kernel and EE03 modem?

It varies from phone to phone. I'm on SFR 1.2 with Genocide 1.0, EC05.

stir fry a lot said:
It varies from phone to phone. I'm on SFR 1.2 with Genocide 1.0, EC05.
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Yeah I know. But if enough people tell me one thing, then I can assume that it would work on mine as well.
Just curious, why haven't you flashed Genocide 2.0?

Well I'm on latest genocide with cm7 clone running eco5 modem hd to many issues with gingerbreads modems, and I get threw the whole day 7 through 12 with a lot of use and if I rarely use I can get two days
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rulyskull said:
Well I'm on latest genocide with cm7 clone running eco5 modem hd to many issues with gingerbreads modems, and I get threw the whole day 7 through 12 with a lot of use and if I rarely use I can get two days
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Damnn! I think I might stick w/ SRF though only because I like the theme more and I've used it before. (not 1.2, but an older version)

My phone just likes 1.0 more than anything else with the exception of the Vision kernel that borked everyone's phones. Mine included.

I switched back the other day. I like sfr, but figured I would try something new, and went with random rom 2.2 phoenix with genocide 1.0, but kept the eh17 modem. So far so good. Random seems to be set up very good for max battery life. Staying on genocide 1.0 for now, cause after reading through the thread a bit, someone had posted that the rom is pretty much optimized for that kernel. I am, however, looking forward to some sfr 1.3 if it ever drops.
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stir fry a lot said:
My phone just likes 1.0 more than anything else with the exception of the Vision kernel that borked everyone's phones. Mine included.
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Haha borked. Excellent.

Adam, David should be releasing a ROM soon that I think your phone will like. If he changes to many things, Ill just release EC05OCEv4.

malcolmXman said:
Adam, David should be releasing a ROM soon that I think your phone will like. If he changes to many things, Ill just release EC05OCEv4.
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Can't wait for that one! Either one, or both!
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Its fantabulous, or tightitious... Both those words are spoken on a regular by a friend of mine Its probably what SFR 1.3 will be, unless they made an app to go with it.

I am looking forward too all of the work...yours, David's, and 1.3.
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For me the best battery life I have seen is on SRF 1.2 with the twilight kernel. I had nearly four hours of screen on time in like 28 hours.
Best I've ever seen length wise was like 38 hours but screen on time was less than two hours total.
SRF 1.2 is so buttery smooth it seemed like a new phone. Now if I could just get skypes front facing camera to work on Froyo.
Edit: Probably should add I am running JUWE's ram script. I find it easier to deal with and get similar results to V6. Running it at stock speeds so it is undervolted. I have also frozen DRM, SNS, and com.samsung.

I have had no issues now that I cleared all backups reflashed eh17 and eh17 modem and cleared everything before flashing
yes getting to battery, each one is a little different some last a little longer hard core use. to me depends on how many apps you have, where you start actually using phone the most and when not in use, i have settings app and shut down 3g till I need it.
And Everyones Phone is different.
Takes a Little Trying and Finding what Fits You!!!

Thanks everyone. I'm on Urban Regeneration right now and after giving it a daily spin, it seems to be pretty solid.

Q---What rom are you running any why?

I am trying roms and i am a htc sense lover lol. Does anyone have great roms or any good reasons on why i should try them? recommendations really

I'm using lightspeed with 3g. Its fast, it has awesome battery life and supports 3G.

Good reason. What's the heavy music use lol. I use bt n music all the time
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honeyvillain 1.2
Because i like acer apps, like the folders for social, games, and other stuff, also i liked lets golf and need for seed and with this rom you have the best from custom roms and stock roms.
It has a good battery life, and i watch a lot of videos in the tablet. It last 6 hours when watching videos, when surfing it last 8 hours the most.

IMO the best rom is the stock 3.1 with root and richardtrips kernel as most other roms have problems with one thing or another and its always a trade off. 3.1 is solid and the custom kernel allows for 1.6 OC which really turns the device into a powerhouse.
I'm also into the vanilla look of honeycomb and the cheesy icon reskins found on other roms is pretty lame but to each his own .
Probably not what you wanted to hear since you're asking about custom roms but it doesnt hurt to express my opinion on the subject.

was using taboonay 2.0 with thor kernel.
battery life good and fast.
O.C to 1.5 and its stable for me. (directly from tabootools, not using setCPU
currently testing Taboonay 2.1 and seems good too. just right now many people having root issues so better dont jump to it.

LightHaze said:
was using taboonay 2.0 with thor kernel.
battery life good and fast.
O.C to 1.5 and its stable for me. (directly from tabootools, not using setCPU
currently testing Taboonay 2.1 and seems good too. just right now many people having root issues so better dont jump to it.
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I would love it if the sim card notification at lock will die off. help?

leo72793 said:
I would love it if the sim card notification at lock will die off. help?
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I had this problem of getting please insert Sim. I found I out that it is kernel specific. If the kernel devs had developed it for use with a500/501 then the Sim card will be present. If that is the case then you need to add the line ro.carrier=wifi-only to /system/build.prop
Then the annoying messages will go away . As for the bookmarks, I got no ideas
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crashpsycho said:
Use ES
explorer with root and writeable permissions go into "/system/app/" look for phone.apk, then rename to "phone.bak" it will say to force close like crazy, reboot into recovery wipe battery stats should take care of it.
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hope this helps.

Well currently upgraded to Taboonay 2.1 and you dont have to edit your build.prop or rename anything.
Its already been set for A500. If you own A501, i believe there is option to set WIFI/3G in Tabootools

Bionix-v or bionix frost or bionix nextgen

Im using bionix v right now and I.love how snappy it is. I wanna know the other versions are. Are they as snappy as bionix v? Stable? Thanks
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Out of all of them, I prefer Bionix-V, Gingerbread look, snappy, fast, it's awesome. <3

Aoght thanks. So far bionix v has been my favorite rom out of aall the ones I've tried. But I wanted to get a more updated one with the same benefits.
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Im running bionix v 1.3.1 and I've made some changes to it using some tweeks used in toxic 8 and made this rom twice as snappy with awsome battery life like that of toxic 8 if interested just say the word
I used the script manager ,kick ass kernel tweaks,bali kernel,kb5 modem, and the build.prop from toxic crazy 8.....had to modify it a tiny bit....
Your probly wondering why I went thru all this trouble...
I love both rims but found a few bugs in craxy8 that I couldn't stand.....and after a little while other aspects of the rom started getting glitchy.....and since the creater of toxic crazy 8 has moved on.....I chose not to bother him with it.....
I found no issues with bionix other than battery life wasn't nearly as good as toxic crazy 8 and wasn't quite as fast and snappy.....so I took it apon myself to merge what I feel to be the 2 best 2.2 roms together..well sorta mixed them

I have used Bionix v1.3.1 with Bali kernel for a long time and it is the most stable rom I have used on the Vibrant. My brother uses Nextgen V2 with Immortality v2.2 and that is super snappy too. V2 seems to have a different launcher by default, and generally has more third party apps preinstalled (I delete them with Titanium Backup).
For some odd reason, that same combo does not work on my Vibrant and crashes a lot. I guess even between the same phone there are differences within that we do not know about (the color on screen also looks different...and it has nothing to do with Voodoo color). Good luck finding your favorite rom/kernel combo!

Shortbus-Driver said:
Im running bionix v 1.3.1 and I've made some changes to it using some tweeks used in toxic 8 and made this rom twice as snappy with awsome battery life like that of toxic 8 if interested just say the word
I used the script manager ,kick ass kernel tweaks,bali kernel,kb5 modem, and the build.prop from toxic crazy 8.....had to modify it a tiny bit....
Your probly wondering why I went thru all this trouble...
I love both rims but found a few bugs in craxy8 that I couldn't stand.....and after a little while other aspects of the rom started getting glitchy.....and since the creater of toxic crazy 8 has moved on.....I chose not to bother him with it.....
I found no issues with bionix other than battery life wasn't nearly as good as toxic crazy 8 and wasn't quite as fast and snappy.....so I took it apon myself to merge what I feel to be the 2 best 2.2 roms together..well sorta mixed them
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Lmao I would do all that but.I would hate the strubble. How much battery life do you get out of it?
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abszer0 said:
I have used Bionix v1.3.1 with Bali kernel for a long time and it is the most stable rom I have used on the Vibrant. My brother uses Nextgen V2 with Immortality v2.2 and that is super snappy too. V2 seems to have a different launcher by default, and generally has more third party apps preinstalled (I delete them with Titanium Backup).
For some odd reason, that same combo does not work on my Vibrant and crashes a lot. I guess even between the same phone there are differences within that we do not know about (the color on screen also looks different...and it has nothing to do with Voodoo color). Good luck finding your favorite rom/kernel combo!
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Thanks man. I keep hearing about bionix with bali kernal. I want to try it out but I could never find it. Do you think you could give me the link? If it ain't a big deal?
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mksin11 said:
Thanks man. I keep hearing about bionix with bali kernal. I want to try it out but I could never find it. Do you think you could give me the link? If it ain't a big deal?
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Bali Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043947
I like 1.8.8UV Myself

Sorry I don't answer battery life questions....that question bugs the hell out of me.
Its different for everyone ....far to many variables

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Sorry I don't answer battery life questions....that question bugs the hell out of me.
Its different for everyone ....far to many variables
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Oh Aight sorry then man. Thanks anywy
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Lol nothing to be sorry about my friend.....im just sayin

They're all great, but Frost is very old, it was (i think one of)the first SGS4G ports, it was 2.2.1, but it had its bugs, and was very laggy without a custom kernel. Bionix V 1.3.1 or Bionix NextGen v2 is your best bet if you want a TW froyo rom.

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They're all great, but Frost is very old, it was (i think one of)the first SGS4G ports, it was 2.2.1, but it had its bugs, and was very laggy without a custom kernel. Bionix V 1.3.1 or Bionix NextGen v2 is your best bet if you want a TW froyo rom.
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Im actually gonna go test out passion for a while. I've been switching back and forth and neo.just came out with v6 and it looks.like such an improvement. Besides that though. I think im just gonna stay with bionix v if anything as mt main rom. Unless I like passion more
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