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[Q] Apps Not Working...Saying Cant Connect or Fail

Ok first off I am a noob when it comes to smart phones and flashing. I recently got a HTC Evo and had it flashed to be on metro pcs to try and save a little cash on the bill. Well I think I am learning you get what you pay for. I am hoping I can get some tips or tricks from this forum. My phone will not run any apps really. It wont connect to facebook or the app store or google maps and youtube. Basicly all the social apps dont work. However if I connect it to WIFI it will run it them. Is it cause metros data service sucks. Any help or advice is appreciated. Again I am new at this and would love some help....thanks again

To be honest, you probably screwed up when doing the Metro PCS hack, and now your data connection is non-existant. Good job.

drmacinyasha said:
To be honest, you probably screwed up when doing the Metro PCS hack, and now your data connection is non-existant. Good job.
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Just to give a little more detail. When I am at home and the EVO picks up my wireless connection all the apps seem to work just fine. Its only when I am not in range of WIFI and am forced to be on Metro Data feed that the apps dont work and give me the connection error. Example I can connect to to the app store when I am at home and when I am on metro data feed it wont connect. Any help is appreciated

Oh and I can get on the net itself...i can go to facebook.com and google.com basicly the net works but the apps them selves are the ones that are having the prob over metros network...

Vibrant and NO data plan but 3G/E signal?

My wife fone does not subscribe to data plan. But sometimes, she got 3G/E signal display on the phone. Will Tmobile automatically add data plan to her phone? is she getting charged to browse the internet? Is there a way to disable this? Thanks.

nguyenmd said:
My wife fone does not subscribe to data plan. But sometimes, she got 3G/E signal display on the phone. Will Tmobile automatically add data plan to her phone? is she getting charged to browse the internet? Is there a way to disable this? Thanks.
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How did she get a plan without data? Its a requirement for the android devices.
I'm sure tmobile will automatically add it.
Yes they will charge. Either 30 bucks a month for per meg. I had someone that tried to do this with Verizon and he got a bill for 300 bucks.
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)

Those 3G/E are normal even if you dont have data plan
Disable with "APNdroid" from the market. After you disable 3G/Edge/Gprs data connection make sure you reboot so it actually disables it...you will no longer see 3G/E BTW Expect even better battery life after doing so.
laristech said:
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
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I wouldn't touch sync its still very useful even if just using Wifi

Not sure what you will get charged but a data plan is NOT required on this phone. On other android devices it has been but for some reason this one can be used as a "dumb" phone. Store employees may tell you otherwise so they can get the commission.

joshthewaster said:
Not sure what you will get charged but a data plan is NOT required on this phone. On other android devices it has been but for some reason this one can be used as a "dumb" phone. Store employees may tell you otherwise so they can get the commission.
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I've seen people INSIST up and down that you can't run smartphones without a data plan or the carrier will add them. They told me the same thing about AT&T and guess what? My wife runs her iphone 2g without one (edge disabled) and nary a problem.

mk262 said:
I've seen people INSIST up and down that you can't run smartphones without a data plan or the carrier will add them. They told me the same thing about AT&T and guess what? My wife runs her iphone 2g without one (edge disabled) and nary a problem.
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I used my nexus and then my vibrant as prepaid with no problems...I went into the store and paid full price for vibrant and told them i had a tmobile prepaid sim card i was going to use...they dont care.
But now i have a $60 month plan so i can use my smart phone for what its intended for

yep, no problem with my even more + plan sans data. been using it that way since i got my g1, and they have not said anything.

laristech said:
How did she get a plan without data? Its a requirement for the android devices.
I'm sure tmobile will automatically add it.
Yes they will charge. Either 30 bucks a month for per meg. I had someone that tried to do this with Verizon and he got a bill for 300 bucks.
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
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thats not true. its not required to have a data plan with an android phone. I talked to a tmobile rep and he said if you buy the android from them by either upgrading or starting a service then you do. but if you bring a tmobile android to them to start up service you dont have to have a data plan. although its really pointless to have an android phone without a data plan.

thanks for the replies guys. I download APN Droid and that took care of the concern. Thanks.

nguyenmd said:
thanks for the replies guys. I download APN Droid and that took care of the concern. Thanks.
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you dont need to download any apps. just go to mobile network, select APN setting and change the epc.tmobile.com to some arbitrary characters like "24532lk34j23l45ju204213" and hit the "menu" button and save. then turn off background sync at all time (unless you turn on wifi for android market donwload apps and gmail or apps that requires internet) and then reboot the phone.
the phone will will still shows 3G/E but u wont be able to get on internet as the APN setting has changed. T-mobile wont charge you data plan for this even though they got the IMEI detected. Ciao!

njfpolyr6 said:
you dont need to download any apps. just go to mobile network, select APN setting and change the epc.tmobile.com to some arbitrary characters like "24532lk34j23l45ju204213" and hit the "menu" button and save. then turn off background sync at all time (unless you turn on wifi for android market donwload apps and gmail or apps that requires internet) and then reboot the phone.
the phone will will still shows 3G/E but u wont be able to get on internet as the APN setting has changed. T-mobile wont charge you data plan for this even though they got the IMEI detected. Ciao!
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Yea remove epc.tmobile.com and for some reason you want it back but you forgot what it was so you go searching online because your forgot to write it down...you get the point
You really think that's easier than just getting APNdroid click to disable, click to enable. And why would he want to and disable background sync im sure he will use wifi.
BTW when you use your "method" and still see 3G/E your phone might not be able to connect to tmobile but it is still searching for those signals ultimately wasting battery

I don't have a data plan and I haven't disabled the APN settings. Whenever I go onto the browser without WiFi it shows me a T-Mobile page that just says that I need a data plan use the internet. It has never charged me. But I do have an unlimited text message plan and I can send picture messages just fine. Just an FYI.

I have used several android phones with out a data plan. We have a family plan, and so all I needed to do was use the sim card for a line that did not have a plan. It actually works well, and were I not waiting for the ota for froyo, I would be tempted to drop my data plan and I use my phone extensively.
If I recall correctly, the only applications that I could not use when out and about were the browser based apps. Initially, the thought of not being able to user google maps would have been enough of a reason not to drop the data plan, but with my trip to canada, that was cured with a $20 download of Co pilot. I am generally using my phone where I have wifi access. Nonetheless, I still was able to get email updates with out a data plan.
In essence, with out a data plan you can still access email, messaging, and use many if not most of your downloaded applications. If you need constant access to FB, you tube, twitter and the likes, you will not easily be able to drop you data line.
Note that I was able to get my wife's phone upgraded to a my touch slide on t-mobile and was not required to add a data plan. I did, but it was weeks after I already had it up and running which was possible because it provided an option to configure wifi before having to have the google account configured (unlike the G1).
Just fyi those those interested.
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T-Mobile will NEVER add a data plan to your line, especially without your knowledge.
I've been using a smartphone with my plan without data for years now.

[Q] Tethering - an option?

Is tethering going to be an option you can sign up for, or rather, something that they will detect and bill you for ?
I can't seem to find anything on their website as far as adding tethering to your plan. I have no gripes about paying for it, especially since now I have WiFi calling... I just dropped my plan down to 500 minutes as I plan on doing most everything via WiFi anyhow.

I do not know their plans. I am tethering with my Nexus while I am waiting on my order for this phone from the retention department.
I will be watching my billings to see if they are able to charge for this beginning today.

JWhipple said:
Is tethering going to be an option you can sign up for, or rather, something that they will detect and bill you for ?
I can't seem to find anything on their website as far as adding tethering to your plan. I have no gripes about paying for it, especially since now I have WiFi calling... I just dropped my plan down to 500 minutes as I plan on doing most everything via WiFi anyhow.
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I was curious as well...I dont know if they can detect that you are tethering, especially in places that have 4G service. The phone itself is capable of pulling quite a bit of data.
I can say that I have already flexed the tethering app installed on the phone and it works great...even on 3G. Its not something I abuse. If I need to tether to my laptop here at work, I do...then get off. I know some people who have cut out their home ISP and rely on tethering even to run their PS3 and XB360. That I think is being a little greedy for a service that T-Mobile has been pretty lenient with thus far.
On a side note...you would think that there would be a popup disclaimer "this app may result in charges...blah,blah,blah" when you open the default hotspot app...but there is not, leading me to believe that they may never take notice of casual tethering.

[Q] Aria - Still nice without data? Can Wifi be locked?

A friend has offered me an Aria for very cheap and I am considering getting it for my son for Christmas. I don't want to pay for data and at the moment I don't want my son having mobile porn ... err um.. mobile internet. So I am planning on disabling the data connection and wifi.
First question is are there parental controls on the phone or can I at least disable wifi and data and keep him from turning it back on?
Next, how much of the usefulness of this thing is tied to being able to use data? Will it still be worth it or should I just get him a txting phone for the same price? The Aria sounds a lot more useful than a txting phone, but is it really or will he be always running into stuff he can't do?
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willp2 said:
A friend has offered me an Aria for very cheap and I am considering getting it for my son for Christmas. I don't want to pay for data and at the moment I don't want my son having mobile porn ... err um.. mobile internet. So I am planning on disabling the data connection and wifi.
First question is are there parental controls on the phone or can I at least disable wifi and data and keep him from turning it back on?
Next, how much of the usefulness of this thing is tied to being able to use data? Will it still be worth it or should I just get him a txting phone for the same price? The Aria sounds a lot more useful than a txting phone, but is it really or will he be always running into stuff he can't do?
Thanks!
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Wifi cannot be disabled to prevent someone from accessing a network hotspot and there are no parental controls on the phone. You can have AT&T disable data on the phone line.
You didn't mention how old your son is, but a texting phone may be a better option than a dataless Aria.

There are apps that you can use to lock apps such as internet. I don't use any so I don't have the names. I just did a market search to "app locker" and found a few.
My last Intruder was a Grumman A-6E.

I don't think you can use the phone without data activated, at least the AT&T branded version. If they know it's a smartphone, they add the data when you put in your SIM.

Really, they add data just by putting in a SIM even if its purchased out of contract? That's nuts.
We used an old iPhone for about a year with no data. So I assumed it would be OK for an Android phone.
He's 12 years old and I agree if I dont want data now a txting phone makes more sense. It's just a cool little phone that has more options like playing some games and music and that sort of thing. Then when the time is right, we'll open up the Wifi
But if I have to pay for data, that's not going to happen.
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willp2 said:
Really, they add data just by putting in a SIM even if its purchased out of contract? That's nuts.
We used an old iPhone for about a year with no data. So I assumed it would be OK for an Android phone.
He's 12 years old and I agree if I dont want data now a txting phone makes more sense. It's just a cool little phone that has more options like playing some games and music and that sort of thing. Then when the time is right, we'll open up the Wifi
But if I have to pay for data, that's not going to happen.
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They can't tell what phone you're using. The only way they could tell you are using a smart phone is if you're using an assload of data an a dumb phone data plan.
How much is the aria? I think it'd be better than any normal testing phone, even if he can't go on the internet
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They can tell, they did it with my old blackberry when I let someone use it. I guess they can tell by imei or something.
They just started doing it, too. I used my blackberry without data until I got my aria, and then I let someone use it and they got a text saying they added data to their plan.
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I wonder if they still so that if you get a non-AT&T smart phone.
The Aria was going to be mostly barter in exchange for helping with some computer problems. So pretty cheap considering I'd help him out anyway.
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I am certain you can call att and have that phone on your account without a data charge. As long as you buy it outright they have no say. But I would be certain to make sure with att that data be disabled for that phone.
I love the aria. But if it's texting you want it for, my suggestion would be to get another device.
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Thanks. I'll give them a call before diving in.
I agree on the texing phone. Just trying to get some more flexibility for the future and encourage his inner geek.
I'll have to do some learning about txting phones, I know nothing about what good ones are.

willp2 said:
Thanks. I'll give them a call before diving in.
I agree on the texing phone. Just trying to get some more flexibility for the future and encourage his inner geek.
I'll have to do some learning about txting phones, I know nothing about what good ones are.
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If you have another phone (non-smart phone), when you start getting charged for the smart phone data plan just call them and tell them it's wrong and you don't have a smart phone...they'll ask you for the IMEI of the phone you're using...give them the IMEI for the non-smart phone that you're not using lol

Another option would be to root the phone (a safe and painless process with unrEVOked) and delete Android Market and Browser. If you are trying to disable data but still have games for you son I have to imagine that you are planning on side-loading apks, or at least you will have to after removing Android Market. No browser = no web. Phone becomes just a phone/texter, media player, and plays whatever games you decide to allow.

winsettr said:
Another option would be to root the phone (a safe and painless process with unrEVOked) and delete Android Market and Browser. If you are trying to disable data but still have games for you son I have to imagine that you are planning on side-loading apks, or at least you will have to after removing Android Market. No browser = no web. Phone becomes just a phone/texter, media player, and plays whatever games you decide to allow.
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That's an interesting idea, I hadn't thought of it.

[Q] About to go Overseas

I am about to go Overseas for a long while...unfortunately. Anyway, I am still wanting to use it's WiFi functionality. Can I still use things like Market, Google Talk, Google Voice, Youtube, other stuff that requires an internet connection? I just need to have the cellular radio disabled for about 5 months. Will this work? Thanks guys...

Yes it should work if you have wifi it will be pretty much like a laptop kinda. But like you said you will not have any calls at all. It will be like a ipod touch Hope that helps
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