The Nexus is tempting (as was Nexus S). But I'm going to stick with my good old Evo 4G. When it came out, it was the 1st superphone and so far ahead of its time that its still not outdated. My phone does everything I need and ICS will breathe new life into it. I don't think any of the new dual core phones are that much better.
My next upgrade will be to a 28mm SoC with integrated LTE that finally gives decent battery life on 4G.
I'm with you, but i do find it very hard not to get sucked into all of the constant hype around here. It is also tough when the devs you like start moving and you feel like you should follow with them. The EVO is still a great phone
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The Nexus is tempting (as was Nexus S). But I'm going to stick with my good old Evo 4G. When it came out, it was the 1st superphone and so far ahead of its time that its still not outdated. My phone does everything I need and ICS will breathe new life into it. I don't think any of the new dual core phones are that much better.
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Not outdated? Are you joking?
*Weak, single core processor. Dual core procs perform better. Period.
*Terrible, god awful graphics processor. Can't play any decent 3D games properly.
*Weak camera
*Terrible battery
*Average/Below average screen. Blacks aren't really black, resolution is low.
The Evo was(is?) a nice phone, but saying that it isn't outdated is a straight-up lie.
I was just thinking the same thing...the evo has been the one phone that I haven't gotten bored with even though I've had it since July of last year It was much more fun on Sprint but even on Metro (to save money) it's still a great device.
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Not outdated? Are you joking?
*Weak, single core processor. Dual core procs perform better. Period.
*Terrible, god awful graphics processor. Can't play any decent 3D games properly.
*Weak camera
*Terrible battery
*Average/Below average screen. Blacks aren't really black, resolution is low.
The Evo was(is?) a nice phone, but saying that it isn't outdated is a straight-up lie.
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It's still better then what 90% of people out there have, quit being melodramatic.
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I moved on to the Epic Touch only because I cracked the screen to a million pieces. EVO is an excellent phone and I miss the ROMs but this epic is an amazing phone. We have development going on and it's getting there but I honestly feel like there's a black hole without my EVO haha idk. And don't get sucked into that LOS problem. If your not stupid, you'll figure it out.
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I keep going and checking out the new phones and honestly, I have not found another phone to WOW me just yet. I have had mine since almost release day and with MikG ROMs, it runs great for everything I want to do. The dual 1.2 might be faster but not that much faster for what I use it for. I can email, text and watch Netflix on it. Ohe yeah, i make calls too! What should a smart phone do?
I will look at the real HTC EVO2 when it comes out but until them, I will keep my EVO!
I use my Evo every day despite having numerous more advanced devices. Mostly as a hotspot. But after using lots of dual core devices, man....you're clueless if you really think the dual cores aren't a massive upgrade. Evo was a bomb phone at the time, but at the rate tech advances....using my Evo the same day as my G2x or EpicTouch is painful. Every single interaction is slow as hell.
But it definitely holds a place in my heart and is definitely my overall fav of the phones I've own(ed).
Without the Evo, we wouldn't have the 4"+ size as the minimum standard for smartphones, 4G and so much else which is now common. Also it is one of the best supported phones in the dev community, and will be for a while. I can't wait to see what ICS will look like on it.
There is a night and day difference between a stock Evo and a rooted one with a nice Aosp rom like decks/Miui. I honestly don't feel like its slow and I use it for a ton of stuff, except 3d games.
For 99% of people, its more phone than they need, even today. That is not outdated. Not everyone wants to buy the top of the line greatest device, right?
Question for people who moved on - did you notice better reception, gps, or battery life? Besides performance, that's what matters most.
Even though part of me really wants a new phone, for most things, I am satisfied with the EVO.
Part of me kind of wants to wait for mid next year in order to really appreciate the upgrade from my EVO to what will likely be a quad-core beast......imagine the jump in speed upgrading from a single-core to quad, heh.
The Evo is way outdated in the numbers game, but it does everything I need and has a sweet kickstand.
This was also the first and likely only smart phone to wow me. When I first got into smart phones I had my G1 and was familiar with other devices like iPhone but the Evo blew me away the first time I saw one.
My only reason to upgrade was to not lose my upgrade. I bought a phone that I know will sell for big dollars.
I sort of like it now...it's a great phone for when I don't have time to screw with android.
The Evo is far from outdated. Despite it's age, it's hardware is still more than competent.
Yes, new CPUs may have improved instruction sets and/or optimizations to take advantage of, but the Snapdragon in the Evo is still hearty enough to run Android just fine. Although the Adreno 200 GPU is not a monster in the 3D department, it still leverages more than enough for almost any application, including most games.
Ice Cream Sandwich will take advantage of hardware acceleration, which will get more from the Adreno 200 than we ever have before, and should actually make Android run faster and be less CPU-intensive than previous iterations of Android.
The EVO, although dated, is still a strong device. Sure, we all have a desire to upgrade, and if you don't want the Galaxy Nexus you're lying--but honestly, there is little real reason to upgrade. ICS is going to run like a top on the Evo, and reinvigorate most user's experiences with their devices.
The EVO was my first smartphone, and I can say im probably gonna hang onto it for a while more. It does everything I need!
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Until Sprint launches the upcoming Nexus, I'm happy because of two words: Boot Manager. I have five ROMs that I flow through... Can't beat it.
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When I buy a new phone, the decision is not 'is this better than my current phone?'. It's 'is this phone good enough to last the next 2 years?'.
Evo passed that test. The Nexus does not. esp not at the $300 price point.
Really at a conundrum though. I love the development of HTC phones. The Nexus intrigues me, but the lack of ROM development for Nexus phones (outside of Cyanogen variants and Miui) makes me wonder if I will get bored.
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I would miss my EVO a lot when it comes time to upgrade. Gonna hang out as long as I can. The EVO design isn't too much of an upgrade in my opinion, the EVO 3d really catches my eye but the 3d would just be a novelty played out quickly. The photon is wierdly shaped lol and the epic touch is too thin in my opinion. Just my opinion, don't flame me but I feel like I would break it in my hands.
I'm personally gonna wait to see if HTC releases anything else exciting since I'm not due for an upgrade for another year anyways.
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Not outdated? Are you joking?
*Weak, single core processor. Dual core procs perform better. Period.
*Terrible, god awful graphics processor. Can't play any decent 3D games properly.
*Weak camera
*Terrible battery
*Average/Below average screen. Blacks aren't really black, resolution is low.
The Evo was(is?) a nice phone, but saying that it isn't outdated is a straight-up lie.
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While the processor is only a single core, it still flies in my book. Waiting for a quad core phone... Whew.
The GPU may not be the best, but it does what I ask of it, and that's what matters. I haven't had any problems with 3D.
I'm still amazed by the fact that they put an 8 MP camera in a phone.
The battery life only sucks if you leave it completely stock and don't root it. Find the right ROM and kernel and battery life is dramatically increased.
The HVGA display is plenty of resolution for a phone. My blacks are black and my colors are bright...
I have a question for you...are you sure we're taking about the same phone? Because I'm pretty sure I'm in an EVO 4G thread.
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Well. I have decided to actually go to the Evo from the Epic. I have my reasons. I will get 50 back. I love the Epics screen and the keyboard, which I am using right now actually. The thing that gets me is. I can't put a pin on it but. I just like the Evo better. Its not the hardware. Which is still awesome and I love. Considering the Epic has much better hardware it is hard to explain the switch. I think I would enjoy the screen more. Is it gorilla glass? Also will he Evo get gingerbread? This is a hard decision...I like that the Evo has the otterbox support and such a large community. Also I think I woul enjoy the evo more. In a few months. Actually 3 I will have another upgrade to use and I believe something will be out by then. Also I had a Hero an I love Htc products. I also want Freshes roms. Lol
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The EVO is going to get all of the updates that the Epic gets and probably more. It also has much better developer support. HTC is just a much better phone manufacturer than Samsung.
That's really a big reason I want to switch. The other one is. This ismy first super smartphone...and I think the Evo ould be a much better starting point. There will be something new by janurary and I will have another upgrade to use. Also froyo can be rooted correct? Was there a new OTA update that blockedrooting on 2.2? I do realize I am only on the 3rd week for the epic but the Evo isn't that outdated. Infact it isn't even close.
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The EVO is fully rootable right now on any version.
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That's really a big reason I want to switch. The other one is. This ismy first super smartphone...and I think the Evo ould be a much better starting point. There will be something new by janurary and I will have another upgrade to use. Also froyo can be rooted correct? Was there a new OTA update that blockedrooting on 2.2? I do realize I am only on the 3rd week for the epic but the Evo isn't that outdated. Infact it isn't even close.
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hardware wise..actually it is..same snapdragon that was released in the nexus and HD2 creeping up on a year ago..
the Snapdragon cant hang with the TI Omap and Cortex processors. People can say it doesnt make a difference, but it does. Launching apps, 1GHz is 1GHz, so its about equal on both phones when it comes to handling tasks, but when it comes to graphics and rendering, the Epic blows the Evo out the ballpark. I dont wanna turn this into another Evo vs Epic debate, but if were stating facts lets state them correctly..
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hardware wise..actually it is..same snapdragon that was released in the nexus and HD2 creeping up on a year ago..
the Snapdragon cant hang with the TI Omap and Cortex processors. People can say it doesnt make a difference, but it does. Launching apps, 1GHz is 1GHz, so its about equal on both phones when it comes to handling tasks, but when it comes to graphics and rendering, the Epic blows the Evo out the ballpark. I dont wanna turn this into another Evo vs Epic debate, but if were stating facts lets state them correctly..
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yes but thats the thing. The android market has yet to see any big graphical games. There is a few games that use advanced graphics, but they can still be handled by the evo. It will take about a year or so to see good games being developed for android, but before that time, evo will still be ontop, even with it's old processor.
+ idk about you, but I'd rather play games on either my ps3, or my pc. I never looked at phones as a gaming platform, and never will. If you want to emulate games from n64, and stuff, just install it on your ps3/pc, and go from there. I don't see a point on playing n64 games on a phone.
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hardware wise..actually it is..same snapdragon that was released in the nexus and HD2 creeping up on a year ago..
the Snapdragon cant hang with the TI Omap and Cortex processors. People can say it doesnt make a difference, but it does. Launching apps, 1GHz is 1GHz, so its about equal on both phones when it comes to handling tasks, but when it comes to graphics and rendering, the Epic blows the Evo out the ballpark. I dont wanna turn this into another Evo vs Epic debate, but if were stating facts lets state them correctly..
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I have a few graphically intensive games such as NOVA and I very rarely play these games that is why I am reqally leaning towards the EVO I don't use my phone for mobile gaming...well 3d that is. So its not that huge of an issue. Is the Evos processor still enough for normal tasks and not gaming?
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I have a few graphically intensive games such as NOVA and I very rarely play these games that is why I am reqally leaning towards the EVO I don't use my phone for mobile gaming...well 3d that is. So its not that huge of an issue. Is the Evos processor still enough for normal tasks and not gaming?
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Definitely. The EVO is super-snappy, and the processor is easily enough.
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yes but thats the thing. The android market has yet to see any big graphical games. There is a few games that use advanced graphics, but they can still be handled by the evo. It will take about a year or so to see good games being developed for android, but before that time, evo will still be ontop, even with it's old processor.
+ idk about you, but I'd rather play games on either my ps3, or my pc. I never looked at phones as a gaming platform, and never will. If you want to emulate games from n64, and stuff, just install it on your ps3/pc, and go from there. I don't see a point on playing n64 games on a phone.
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agreed, I dont care about gaming on a cell phone. The only reason i brought that up is because the epic offers a much smoother experience when scrolling and pinching and zooming and **** like that because of the better GPU
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I have a few graphically intensive games such as NOVA and I very rarely play these games that is why I am reqally leaning towards the EVO I don't use my phone for mobile gaming...well 3d that is. So its not that huge of an issue. Is the Evos processor still enough for normal tasks and not gaming?
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i am by NO means saying the Evo is a slouch, its still majorly fast, and is a DECENT gaming device if your into that, I was just making a point when the guy said the Evo is far from being outdate. I still love my Evo
Hey i really only buy HTC phones just do to development of them on this site..my girl has the epic and i think shes gonna either go evo in a week or hopefully they release a win pho 7 at the begining of october
Evo can play some 3d games..but for me I'll play a 3d game for alittle bit, but touch screen and accelerometer does not work for me. unless I get a keyboard and mouse hooked up
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hardware wise..actually it is..same snapdragon that was released in the nexus and HD2 creeping up on a year ago..
the Snapdragon cant hang with the TI Omap and Cortex processors. People can say it doesnt make a difference, but it does. Launching apps, 1GHz is 1GHz, so its about equal on both phones when it comes to handling tasks, but when it comes to graphics and rendering, the Epic blows the Evo out the ballpark. I dont wanna turn this into another Evo vs Epic debate, but if were stating facts lets state them correctly..
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Snapdragon uses a 1ghz cortex A8 CPU. The difference you are trying to explain is GPU not CPU. The Hummingbird SoC uses a PowerVR SGX540 GPU, Snapdragon SoC uses a Adreno 200 GPU, the SGX540 is roughly 4-5x more powerful in terms of triangles per second.
However, I don't trust Samsung to build quality phones. I love my EVO and will keep it for the foreseeable future.
Not to be off topic but I heard rumors of dual core proccesers out by x mas, any one here about that?
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Thats one thing I learned about Samsung, on paper the specs are superior, but on actual performance and real world usage it falls far behind. The hardware is great, but the software they put on to run it is an epic fail. I haven't used the epic 4g yet, but this has been my experience with past Samsung phones and I dont expect the current to be much different.
And yes evohack I have also heard that dual core phones are scheduled to be out in Q4.
I have the fascinate and I can.say that the sammys needs help with their crap software. Touchwiz is a horrible joke and the GPS and lag is a real issue. Glad its not my primary phone. Thanks to google voice I can.play around with multiple phones and still get all.my calls.
The phone could.have used a better backcover. It feels cheap and prone to.smudges. should.have given it a rubberized feel like they do with a lot of the new.cases would.help. I might create something for that.
The phone is lightweight and screen is nice. Sammys better off with less touchwiz and more froyo. Hope he community will have something soon for it.
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Snapdragon uses a 1ghz cortex A8 CPU. The difference you are trying to explain is GPU not CPU. The Hummingbird SoC uses a PowerVR SGX540 GPU, Snapdragon SoC uses a Adreno 200 GPU, the SGX540 is roughly 4-5x more powerful in terms of triangles per second.
However, I don't trust Samsung to build quality phones. I love my EVO and will keep it for the foreseeable future.
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right, i think the adreno is about 20 million triangles per second where the SGX is about 90 million
I'm leaning at getting my 50 bucks back and getting the evo. I lover my epic but its just not what I need right now and that 50 bucks can go towards my 10 payment fee a month.im really going to miss this screen lol first I'm going to go play with the evo from radioshack then decide indefinitely...hows the evos screen??
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..hows the evos screen??
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Coming from the epic, it probably will look like crap to you. Not as bright and the colors wont slap you in the face. Its not bad, but not great to today's standards, somewhere in the middle, eh good enough lol. But hey its HTC so if it can be improved you'll see it here at XDA first. It all comes down to the SAMOLED, keyboard and community support really. I personally dont think that the CPU/GPU are going to make much difference because of how Samsung implements it. Like I said specs are specs but at the end of the day if the frameworks and kernels are botched and half assed, well you know the rest and what to expect.
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Coming from the epic, it probably will look like crap to you. Not as bright and the colors wont slap you in the face. Its not bad, but not great to today's standards, somewhere in the middle, eh good enough lol. But hey its HTC so if it can be improved you'll see it here at XDA first. It all comes down to the SAMOLED, keyboard and community support really. I personally dont think that the CPU/GPU are going to make much difference because of how Samsung implements it. Like I said specs are specs but at the end of the day if the frameworks and kernels are botched and half assed, well you know the rest and what to expect.
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Thats the real big thing for me, the support behind it, I had a Hero before the Epic and loved it, I was looking at fresh 3.2 and I guess it has some amazing battery life can this actually be confirmed, I get crap battery from my Epic...
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Coming from the epic, it probably will look like crap to you. Not as bright and the colors wont slap you in the face. Its not bad, but not great to today's standards, somewhere in the middle, eh good enough lol. But hey its HTC so if it can be improved you'll see it here at XDA first. It all comes down to the SAMOLED, keyboard and community support really. I personally dont think that the CPU/GPU are going to make much difference because of how Samsung implements it. Like I said specs are specs but at the end of the day if the frameworks and kernels are botched and half assed, well you know the rest and what to expect.
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idk, to me the screen nor the keyboard are big points. The screen has burn in issues, and some of the colors aren't even displayed right. + I'm pretty sure the screen is a lot more expensive to replace then an lcd one and easier to break/scratch.
The only reason I thought of switching a while ago was the cpu/gpu, but after I thought about it, it just would be retarded to switch.
Because:
1. TW is crap compared to sense.
2. The cpu/gpu would be a waste since I wouldn't even use it much.
3. It's samsung.
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hows the evos screen??
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It's big and beautiful, and with LCD Density Changer you can fit so much on the screen at once.
Okay... the phone lineup for Sprint has been getting really ridiculous. Tmobile has been getting amazing phones. Verizon has been getting amazing phones. ATT has been getting amazing phones.
Sprint? Another friggin Evo with a hardware keyboard? COME. ON.
I think I'm bailing soon. The Evo was cool at first but has already showed its 2008 age hardware to be slowing down. I cant stand the lag on a 2010 phone. The GPU sucks making all future gpu acceleration useless and games run like ballsack on it already. The screen is nice but does not makeup for its flaws. The camera is sticking out like a giant ass that can't be blocked.
*sigh*
Sprint just needs more phones to choose from....
wait for ces they should have more phones coming right after that
Hmm...if I was that unhappy,i sure wouldn't still be with sprint/evo..
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werxen said:
Okay... the phone lineup for Sprint has been getting really ridiculous. Tmobile has been getting amazing phones. Verizon has been getting amazing phones. ATT has been getting amazing phones.
Sprint? Another friggin Evo with a hardware keyboard? COME. ON.
I think I'm bailing soon. The Evo was cool at first but has already showed its 2008 age hardware to be slowing down. I cant stand the lag on a 2010 phone. The GPU sucks making all future gpu acceleration useless and games run like ballsack on it already. The screen is nice but does not makeup for its flaws. The camera is sticking out like a giant ass that can't be blocked.
*sigh*
Sprint just needs more phones to choose from....
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and what phone out there besides what t-mo has is better the droid x is the same way as the evo camera sticks out the back
Stop Complaning!!
Well get the hell out of sprint then.. what the hell are you still doing in sprint? evo is frkn awesome.. mine doesnt lagg.. its the way u take care of it.. mine is full of apps all over.. and it still doesnt lag! learn how to us ur phone first
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Well get the hell out of sprint then.. what the hell are you still doing in sprint? u deep****! evo is frkn awesome.. mine doesnt lagg.. its the way u take care of it.. mine is full of apps all over.. and it still doesnt lag! learn how to us ur phone first
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Oh right I forgot everyone elses phones lag even the ones at Sprint store even the ones one youtube videos EXCEPT yours. Good to know. Also I like your post count, cutie.
have to admit t-mobile has been banging out the sweet phones !
werxen = sprint whiner
Cutie.. thanks.. u sound gay! lol.. its true.. and u still complaning just quit sprint already then.. damn!
I like sprint and I like my evo. 2008 tech? Did they have 1 ghz snapdragons in 2008?
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My evo doesn't lag and I get superb battery life. I also have people always getting all googly eyed over it. I also believe gingerbread will really amp up the evo even more and should solve all your lag problems that may exist.
mitchellvii said:
I like sprint and I like my evo. 2008 tech? Did they have 1 ghz snapdragons in 2008?
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Huh? Now that I think about it... nope!
i likes my phone
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Okay... the phone lineup for Sprint has been getting really ridiculous. Tmobile has been getting amazing phones. Verizon has been getting amazing phones. ATT has been getting amazing phones.
Sprint? Another friggin Evo with a hardware keyboard? COME. ON.
I think I'm bailing soon. The Evo was cool at first but has already showed its 2008 age hardware to be slowing down. I cant stand the lag on a 2010 phone. The GPU sucks making all future gpu acceleration useless and games run like ballsack on it already. The screen is nice but does not makeup for its flaws. The camera is sticking out like a giant ass that can't be blocked.
*sigh*
Sprint just needs more phones to choose from....
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Believe me sir, every phone out right now have a flaw in it. I went from N1, to blackberry (bbm reasons), epic 4g, optimus one, and now the evo. And i can make this assertion "your phone is what you make of it". I treat my phone like my desktop computer, install only what i use, constantly clearing cache every two weeks etc. Now unfortunately for me i have the newer hardware so i cannot take advantage of the custom kernel, but my phone is buttery smooth. I use titanium back-up to remove all the unwanted files, installed Go Launcher (love this launcher) and Go SMS. The only thing i can say is, LG got it right, my Lg optimus seriously never drops below 175mb ram no matter what i throw at it, i'm assuming this is why it's so smooth also. I think it's more software side than hardware, i'm sure when Gingerbread comes out and all hardware supported, plus stable, you won't be hating your evo so much.
Let me get this out there.
The Evo has some old hardware and some new.
The phone SUCKS if you don't root it and put some good ROMs on it.
I'm on Myn's and the phone is fast enough for me. It has also become really sexy cause Myn's dark theme is the best I've seen on a phone. Hero's Baked Kernel 6 is giving me crazy battery life as well.
The things I don't like....
- Screen Quality : Man this thing looks like crap compared to Galaxy S or Droid X... 16-bit and colors aren't strong.
- Camera Quality : Yeah we have an 8mp camera, but HTC's crappy software makes it worse than it really is. Some 5mp shooters do better. Luckily custom Roms can fix this.
- GPU : Pissed me off when I realized the Snapdragon Processor comes with 2008-like GPU. Adreno 200 is capable of quite a bit, but again, HTC doesn't release the drivers for anything. The GPU can be coded for and if games are optimized enough, it'll run well. But developers don't care. Luckily, Gingerbread increases graphical performance by quite a bit.
And that's about it right now.
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Believe me sir, every phone out right now have a flaw in it. I went from N1, to blackberry (bbm reasons), epic 4g, optimus one, and now the evo. And i can make this assertion "your phone is what you make of it". I treat my phone like my desktop computer, install only what i use, constantly clearing cache every two weeks etc. Now unfortunately for me i have the newer hardware so i cannot take advantage of the custom kernel, but my phone is buttery smooth. I use titanium back-up to remove all the unwanted files, installed Go Launcher (love this launcher) and Go SMS. The only thing i can say is, LG got it right, my Lg optimus seriously never drops below 175mb ram no matter what i throw at it, i'm assuming this is why it's so smooth also. I think it's more software side than hardware, i'm sure when Gingerbread comes out and all hardware supported, plus stable, you won't be hating your evo so much.
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The Optimus One line is actually pretty impressive for a sometimes free low end phone. It has the same amount of RAM as the EVO and the same GPU as the EVO but runs at almost half the resolution. This results to some pretty impressive performance. Stuff like the 3D gallery app and 3D maps in Google Maps runs much smoother than on the EVO. The only thing holding it back is the CPU (600 MHz ARMv6 vs. 1 GHz A8) but even then the design of the chip is not that different than that of the Snapdragon (Modem/FPU co-processor).
The EVO for the most part is pretty good, and probably still one of the best featured phones out even 6 months later. Nothing on it really stands out as best in it's class but it's okay, the only issue is the GPU - it sucks. You can't run LWs and still be at 55 FPS (most of the time it drops to under 30), some games run pretty awful, and some apps don't run as smooth. Everything runs but when you have a newer phone right next to it you can really feel the difference. And the benchmarks speak for themselves, the SGS/NS is 4x better and the Droids are 2x better. That's just the way it is.
The new EVO Shift is not just another EVO though. It's a Desire Z with WiMax and a EVO looking front. It still has the newer 45nm 800 MHz Qualcomm CPU that beats out the EVO by a little and the newer Adreno 205 GPU that is about 3-4x better. It's a ugly looking phone and a little late but performance wise it's still on par with any phone released today.
@ Award Tour : Yep... Droid 1/ Droid 2/ Droid X (and the new droids like Droid Pro) all do 2x better than the Evo. That is enough. It doesn't even need to outdo the Galaxy S phones because it really doesn't matter at that point. All other games run fine mostly because those games are coded for Iphone first generally, with similar GPU.
And Evo Shift has better GPU so it's an okay upgrade cause that's the only thing I really care about.
Cause really, everything else is software. And custom Roms do the job.
And I like HTC phones because they upgrade fairly quickly compared to other companies and release decent phones with GREAT development backing.
But then again I also hate them because they latch onto old hardware sometimes (Qualcomm... thanks) and don't optimize their current software sometimes.
patelkedar91 said:
Let me get this out there.
The Evo has some old hardware and some new.
The phone SUCKS if you don't root it and put some good ROMs on it.
I'm on Myn's and the phone is fast enough for me. It has also become really sexy cause Myn's dark theme is the best I've seen on a phone. Hero's Baked Kernel 6 is giving me crazy battery life as well.
The things I don't like....
- Screen Quality : Man this thing looks like crap compared to Galaxy S or Droid X... 16-bit and colors aren't strong.
- Camera Quality : Yeah we have an 8mp camera, but HTC's crappy software makes it worse than it really is. Some 5mp shooters do better. Luckily custom Roms can fix this.
- GPU : Pissed me off when I realized the Snapdragon Processor comes with 2008-like GPU. Adreno 200 is capable of quite a bit, but again, HTC doesn't release the drivers for anything. The GPU can be coded for and if games are optimized enough, it'll run well. But developers don't care. Luckily, Gingerbread increases graphical performance by quite a bit.
And that's about it right now.
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The Adreno 200 GPU as it is now (both from a hardware and software perspective) sucks. I don't ever expect it to perform as well as the newer stuff (it just doesn't have the specs) but there's still hope for better performance. It seems that the drivers were ultra buggy (from CM work on 2.3) and if you replace the Adreno 200 drivers with the newer Adreno 205 drivers, 2D performance increases by like 100% but unfortunately it completely breaks 3D rendering.
Maybe with the upcoming Google provided 2.3 Adreno 200 drivers (which I got to assume fixes those bug CM ran into) plus the core graphic performance in 2.3 we may see some new life in this GPU. At least I hope so.
Meanwhile Apple is kicking ass in the hardware department. I just don't friggin understand this... Is it so hard to make top tier phones with GOOD hardware? It seems like the only one is the Nexus S right now and its made by crappy Samsung and their cheap plastic. Not to be a fanboy for any side but when put into perspective if the iPhone was on Sprint I would switch today. Android really needs to get their act together and start making the user experience perfect.
I use my generation 1 ipod touch and it does not lag a single bit in anything but my Evo lags in everything it does. Really shows how much software needs to be optimized instead of releasing bullcrap versions of Android every 3 months.
I mean CMON is anyone else frustrated at this? We all pay a lot of money for a SMART phone but it seems like they come to us from the manufacturer as stupid phones and we have to make them smart by taking out all the stupid crap and optimizing it ourself. Why do we even pay for the phone? Should be free.
rumor has it a really great superphone running webos 2.0 may come to sprint by june. myself im leaving for at&t or tmobile and going to try out a wp7 device.
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Meanwhile Apple is kicking ass in the hardware department. I just don't friggin understand this... Is it so hard to make top tier phones with GOOD hardware? It seems like the only one is the Nexus S right now and its made by crappy Samsung and their cheap plastic. Not to be a fanboy for any side but when put into perspective if the iPhone was on Sprint I would switch today. Android really needs to get their act together and start making the user experience perfect.
I use my generation 1 ipod touch and it does not lag a single bit in anything but my Evo lags in everything it does. Really shows how much software needs to be optimized instead of releasing bullcrap versions of Android every 3 months.
I mean CMON is anyone else frustrated at this? We all pay a lot of money for a SMART phone but it seems like they come to us from the manufacturer as stupid phones and we have to make them smart by taking out all the stupid crap and optimizing it ourself. Why do we even pay for the phone? Should be free.
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I own a iPhone 4, and I'm not going to lie, it runs and performs perfectly but that's expected when you only have to optimize the software for a few devices. But it's not the best hardware available either. The SGS was released around the same time and had a GPU that was twice as fast, the cameras were just about as good and sometimes better. The Droid X at around that time had the same exact GPU, and now the newer HTC phones (Desire HD, Z, MT4G, G2) all have GPUs that are twice as fast as well. The CPU in the iPhone 4 was a 800 MHz Cortex A8, and every high end Android around that time had the same Cortex A8 but clocked at 1 GHz (and now more) so it was never the fastest; I also wouldn't be surprised if the Snapdragon chip design beats Apple's A4 head to head when both clocked at 1 GHz.
TBH, most of the blame for performance lies directly with Android. It's just not that fast performance wise. The iPhone 4 is down clocked CPU wise, has a "mid level high end" mobile GPU (PowerVR SGX 535), and runs at a higher resolutions but still runs circles around the Nexus S. Hell, for a even strong example look at WP7. It uses the same crap Adreno 200 as the first gen Snapdragon (what the EVO has) and runs waaaaaaaayyyyyy smoother.
I heard from a sprint Rep that something BIG is coming in June. said he couldn't tell me what, other than to have anyone who is due for an upgrade to wait because it'll be worth it. Any ideas? Moto Atrix? WP7? Giving one million dollars to all customers? Please feel free to share ideas
Yeah....we'll see about that
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Interesting .....ill def hold my upgrade till then.
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off-topic: @OP your sig is so true
As for what the announcement is, I've read rumors that Spring is getting WP7 around June... I hope it's something more exciting than that, an OS that doesn't even support multitasking properly doesn't sound appealing...
If a windows 7 phone is big, ill ****ing rage.
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it's obviously a 3d superphone with a 4.3" screen...that is super slim and unfolds into a 7" tablet running Marshmallow(Android 9.0)
Well...
http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=12432
June 30 is still considered "June" isnt' it?
edit: source of the article above link
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...erizon_and_spring_will_carry_windows_pho.html
I found particularly interesting the fact that M$ "will also do a software update this year adding a copy and paste feature and performance improvements to help apps load faster."
A "smart"phone that can't even copy/paste? Wow, the standards have fallen...
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it's obviously a 3d superphone with a 4.3" screen...that is super slim and unfolds into a 7" tablet running Marshmallow(Android 9.0)
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I remember certain device that could not get MMS, or copy/paste for a while (when most other smartphones were able to do it)... hell it still sucks with its 'multitasking' abilities.
Yeah seems like putting less fuctionality seems to be the new norm.
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I remember certain device that could not get MMS, or copy/paste for a while (when most other smartphones were able to do it)... hell it still sucks with its 'multitasking' abilities.
Yeah seems like putting less fuctionality seems to be the new norm.
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I had that phone. However I did enjoy that phone more than any other until the evo came along.
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it's obviously a 3d superphone with a 4.3" screen...that is super slim and unfolds into a 7" tablet running Marshmallow(Android 9.0)
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You are totally wrong. My sister's neighbor's best friend's uncle knows someone who said that Dan Hesse himself has confirmed that it will be running Android 15.3.2 (Watermelon)
I could really give a f**k about another Windows phone after owning my evo. I played with ATT w7 device and wasn't impressed. Only thing would excite me is another HTC device with a bigger screen. And already running something after gingerbread. This evo is hands down the best phone I have ever owned.
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To bad I'm not going to get my upgrade in June....like I was originally supposed to.
Either the iPhone 5 or EVO-2, or both
IPhone 5 would need a bigger screen to be impressive
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Maybe there was a mix up and they meant June 2010.
Especially considering the "save your upgrades" comment. That tellms me this insider isn't paying attention.
Though I am an Android kind of person, I'm not going to knock iPhones at all...like everyone I know numerous people that love theirs. I also am not that enthused at the moment with the thought of dual-core phones as the Evo 4G, the Evo Shift, and half a dozen other Android phones are extremely powerful, and many users of these divices can barely keep our phones charged as it is. Battery technology is lagging far behind phone technology at the moment.
However, being responsible for another dozen or so members of my family all aquiring various Androis phones, I've now had the opportunity to play around with a great number of these devices. The latest is a new Evo Shift, and based on my experience with it, I'd like to see the Evo 2 or the Evo 4G Hardware revision 005. In either case, it would be the same Evo that I have and love, with both cameras, 4.3" screen, etc, but it would use the second gen Snapdragon processor and circuitry found in the Evo Shift.
I say this because the day his Evo Shift was purchased, my bro-in-law had no idea about tweaking & tuning it, killing or modding excessive synching, and any of the other simple things we can do to an Android to greatly extend battery life.
He simply logged in with his GMail account, added his Exchange email account for work, installed Lookout at my suggestion, and has Angry Birds and another dozen games that his daughter installed.
In this condition, after fully charging overnight, with moderate to fairly heavy use he has yet to ever fully drain the stock battery during any one single day. When usage is light-moderate, he can easily get through a couple of days before charging. He states that he's getting better battery life out of his Shift than he did with his BB 8330 Curve. I had one of those, too, and that is saying something.
Add to this the fact that the Evo Shift's 2nd gen Snapdragon at 800MHz has bested the Evo 4G's 1GHz Snapdragon's Quadrant scores by an average of 200pts. It is obvious to me that this new processor is both more powerful and far more efficient. So, I dream of my beloved Evo 4G but with that more powerful and far more efficient processor and circuitry.
Of course I'll still throw my 3500 mAh battery on it, and be able to get as stupid as I want!
However, this is not what we'll get. I believe that it is far more likely that we'll either get a new marketing item (you know, really provides nothing new or useful, but looks good in a marketing campaign), or we'll get new uber powerful multi-core phones that come with Sprint's 2600mAh extended batteries, that HTC claim gets 5-6 hours of talk time, and that after Sprint loads all of their bloatware on it really runs completely dead after 5-6 hours of sitting in your pocket.
I'll pray for us all. Thank you for your time.
Maybe the announcement coming up is just that?! It'll be revealed now, but released in June?! Seemed to have been the case with the EVO at least.
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Though I am an Android kind of person, I'm not going to knock iPhones at all...like everyone I know numerous people that love theirs. I also am not that enthused at the moment with the thought of dual-core phones as the Evo 4G, the Evo Shift, and half a dozen other Android phones are extremely powerful, and many users of these divices can barely keep our phones charged as it is. Battery technology is lagging far behind phone technology at the moment.
However, being responsible for another dozen or so members of my family all aquiring various Androis phones, I've now had the opportunity to play around with a great number of these devices. The latest is a new Evo Shift, and based on my experience with it, I'd like to see the Evo 2 or the Evo 4G Hardware revision 005. In either case, it would be the same Evo that I have and love, with both cameras, 4.3" screen, etc, but it would use the second gen Snapdragon processor and circuitry found in the Evo Shift.
I say this because the day his Evo Shift was purchased, my bro-in-law had no idea about tweaking & tuning it, killing or modding excessive synching, and any of the other simple things we can do to an Android to greatly extend battery life.
He simply logged in with his GMail account, added his Exchange email account for work, installed Lookout at my suggestion, and has Angry Birds and another dozen games that his daughter installed.
In this condition, after fully charging overnight, with moderate to fairly heavy use he has yet to ever fully drain the stock battery during any one single day. When usage is light-moderate, he can easily get through a couple of days before charging. He states that he's getting better battery life out of his Shift than he did with his BB 8330 Curve. I had one of those, too, and that is saying something.
Add to this the fact that the Evo Shift's 2nd gen Snapdragon at 800MHz has bested the Evo 4G's 1GHz Snapdragon's Quadrant scores by an average of 200pts. It is obvious to me that this new processor is both more powerful and far more efficient. So, I dream of my beloved Evo 4G but with that more powerful and far more efficient processor and circuitry.
Of course I'll still throw my 3500 mAh battery on it, and be able to get as stupid as I want!
However, this is not what we'll get. I believe that it is far more likely that we'll either get a new marketing item (you know, really provides nothing new or useful, but looks good in a marketing campaign), or we'll get new uber powerful multi-core phones that come with Sprint's 2600mAh extended batteries, that HTC claim gets 5-6 hours of talk time, and that after Sprint loads all of their bloatware on it really runs completely dead after 5-6 hours of sitting in your pocket.
I'll pray for us all. Thank you for your time.
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I love my EVO, only wish I have for EVO2 is better battery and nicer screen with higher res and better colors , and make the phone slightly thinner if possible.
But I am open minded to an iPhone5. If it comes out with a 4" screen and Apple adds Widgets and a real Notification system I will be very tempted to buy one. But will Apple really make all those changes to the next phone ? They seem to revise the phone pretty slowly.
There will be two new additions, one in March by htc, one in June by Motorola. Both will be announced by ctia, perhaps the March one by mwc.
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My upgrade comes through on March 1st.. I've looked into each of these phones with great detail. This is what I've come up with in a nutshell. And I want everyone's professional opinion as ill be using this phone for a year or two.. thx guys and gals..(is there a girl on xda yet? ;p)
Stock pros of shift: pocket friendly, higher quality exterior, possibly more support on xda, I heart HTC.
Stock pros of epic 4g: better battery life, amoled screen, front facing camera, video card for twice the gaming potential
Both are 99.00 on Amazon with upgrade eligibility (so is the evo, but I don't need a tablet just yet, 4" is quite enough for me) .. I use sprint im not switching its cheap.. I'd rather have a steak then slightly improved cell service. I have wifi at home anyways..
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My wife has a shift and I have an Epic. Her phone is more stable and her camera takes noticeably better pictures. The keyboard is also better on the shift as sometimes the keys skip on the Epic. As far as froyo is concerned it is much more stable on the Shift as well.
When on the shift section of xda I noticed a lot of people got the phone for their wives and not for themselves. They say games don't run as smoothe on the shift such as psx rom.games. and there is no phone on the market that I've layed my hands on that has a prettier screen than the epic. The colors are just plain and simply better. The phone isn't the eye catcher the epic is
I would go personally with the Epic in hopes of sprint and Samsung getting their act together and fixing the numerous bugs that are associated with it. You'll definetely have a love hate relationship with the epic but I believe in the long run you'll be better off with it.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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If you can wait for the next round of phones I would, since they'll probably be out this summer. If you can't, the Epic is a good phone. I'm currently on EB 13 and I did a fresh install and then loaded all of my apps manually. There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera, Time without signal (TWS) being high unless you do the airplane mode toggle, and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light. These aren't deal breakers for me, because I don't really use the phone for low light recordings or sport mode and I'm fine toggling the airplane mode. However, it would be nice to have this fixed. I haven't experienced any of the other bugs people have claimed, so I'm still very happy with the performance of EB 13, but I'm not holding my breath for a fix. I mainly stay on EB 13 because the battery life for me is drastically better than 2.1 and the performance is no worst than 2.1. The screen is a lot better as well.
Like I said before, I hope they fix the problems, but I wouldn't buy a phone assuming they will......
IMO, it all boils down to this..
If you want a KB, get the Epic, if you don't get the EVO
The EVO shift is simply not a high end phone, no matter how it was marketed.
It is not a matter of speed, but just a lack of to many high end features.
I would really say it boils down to you really wanting to mod it I have an epic and I've been pretty happy with having it rommed to froyo until. Although some of the hardware glitches or software do kinda get annoying. I still think it's pretty descent.
The shift I'm assuming is a descent phone as well and I heard the keyboard is way better then epic, so it really comes down to preference I really think.
Best advice I can say is go to the sprint store and play with both of them for about 30 minutes, like literally 30 minutes.
I own both. Epic has a nicer screen and is faster for games. Shift seems to be better for literally everything else.
But if you like to tweak endlessly, Epic may be more your speed.
Epic by a gazillian times. The screen is simply amazing! And the gpu screams. Along froyo with ext filesystem, it even beats the super dual core tegra Atrix phone. Trust me... Epic is hands down best. I owned a Evo and a shift. Both underperform compared to Epic.
Thanks a lot guys after reading I think I may just wait for next row of phones.. when do you think they'll come out?
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Brah the epic is a MAN PHONE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UB2DtU0UOo
The shift is something I would recommend to my grandma. though i wouldn't recommend a android phone to any tech impaired person( as my grandma is, fuuuu dont even get me started.)
From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera... and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Lol screw samsung and sprint for updates. Devs for the win.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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Heavy
I've had the Epic and the Evo, not the Shift tho. But I've played with the Shift for a while and one thing that surprises me is HOW HEAVY it is! For the weight difference, I'd almost just get the Epic. Regardless... if you want a billion ROM's that's hard to decipher and just really be confused most of the time, get an HTC. Tho, I will say their stock ROM's hand Samy's rear to them. The build quality on all three phones I would say are on par with each other.
The GPS on the Evo is AMAZING! I ALWAYS get a quick lock (within 5-10 seconds of opening up maps), and after 15-20 seconds, it's accurate to 3m (9 feet!), the Epic, not so much. After about 30 seconds, it'd lock, and only be accurate to 20m (60 feet!?!). As for using navigation on the phone, again, I would buy a garmin or tom-tom before I'd use the Epic's navigation.
Bottom line, yeah, if you need a phone that just works, any HTC is the way to go. BUT, the screen, size of keyboard, how good it plays games, did I mention the screen quality? are unmatched on the Epic. Hardware-wise (beyond maybe the GPS), the Epic is unbeaten.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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The answers to all of your questions in this thread. A very nice debate between some of us hardware nuts. (I won. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907182
noskoviak said:
Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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Untrue. Stop using Quadrant and Linpack (outdated benchmarks that are optimized for Snapdragon) and you'll see that it is simply not the case.
MHz for MHz, the Qualcomm MSM SoCs are slightly more powerful than the Hummingbird, but at 800 MHz they still fall behind the 1 GHz S5PC110.
I was using smartbench what do u think of that one?
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I got the shift by the way... and I'm am loving it. Superior device imo.
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Shift is good, but the epic is on a whole other level, in terms of hardware. Stock the shift has the better software, but if your going to mod your phone with some of the awesome xda dev software.......that's where you'll see what I mean by being on a whole other level. Don't wait to long to trade your new shift in and get a real upgrade
I'm wondering is it actually better than the og Evo?
8mp vs 5 MP camera
1ghz vs 1.2 ghz processeor
Kickstand vs no kickstand (I know not really a big deal)
4.3 in screen vs 4 in screen
Battery...to be continued
Massive dev support vs ??
Domestic radio vs world phone**
(My favorite improvement)
What u think? Is it even better than the 3D? Does the lack of dual core really make much of a difference
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I'll let you know on Monday
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I'll let you know on Monday
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Haha good looking
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for me the absence dual core really makes a difference.
rdia am grateful to for giving me this forum stated he is very good and has lots of variety.
Seems like a decent offering with a solid price point for those not wanting some cutting edge specs. But I don't know if I'd go from a 4G to this, especially locking in for 2 years.
In hindsight I prediro a specification point.
rruss said:
I'm wondering is it actually better than the og Evo?
8mp vs 5 MP camera
1ghz vs 1.2 ghz processeor
Kickstand vs no kickstand (I know not really a big deal)
4.3 in screen vs 4 in screen
Battery...to be continued
Massive dev support vs ??
Domestic radio vs world phone**
(My favorite improvement)
What u think? Is it even better than the 3D? Does the lack of dual core really make much of a difference
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i got my evo 4g on release day, had it for about 9 months and then bought a shift. i then switched to us cellular 3 weeks ago, had a motorola electrify (photon) and swapped it for the hero-s which is the same as the evo design minus the wimax radio and world capabilities. figured i'd post my thoughts on it here since there's no forum for the hero-s.
the camera is absolutely fantastic. i'm assuming the design will have the same one. it's got a f2.2 lens, so it's amazing in low light. i use my camera a LOT and that was a big downside to the electrify for me.
the cpu is a 2nd generation snapdragon, so it's more than just a 200mhz speed bump. it's quite a bit faster. it also has an adreno 205 vs. the 200 as the gpu, which is a significant upgrade. i honestly don't notice much of a difference between my hero-s and the electrify i had. i don't play many cpu/ gpu intensive games, but it's run everything i've thrown at it with ease. it's not a top of the line multi-core speed demon, but i really don't need that. it's fast, everything runs smooth, and that's all i need/ want.
no kickstand, but not really needed. the 4" qhd screen is probably 90% of the reason i went with this phone. the screen looks great, i really like the higher resolution, and it's just so much easier for me to hold. i actually have pretty big hands, but the evo 4g and electrify are just awkward for me to hold. i sold my evo 4g and got a shift because of this, and traded my electrify for the hero-s for the same reason. this should be a great choice for people who don't want a bigger screen.
battery life seems decent. i can make it through the day with moderate use. if i'm driving i'll plug it in if i'm using nav/ maps, but overall it's ok. probably a bit better than my shift and it seems better than my evo 4g from what i can remember of it.
as for massive dev support... oh god i hope there's some action with this phone on sprint, there's not much going on with it on the USC side (at least not yet). i'd think it'll get rooted/ s-off somewhat quickly, but who knows. this thing would scream with cm7 on it, and i'm thinking it'll run ICS just fine.
there's no world phone capabilities on my hero-s, so i can't comment on that. it seems like that would be a very nice feature for people who need it though.
overall, i love this thing. it's very thin, i love the aluminium unibody, the button placement is great, it's very zippy, the screen resolution and size are perfect for me, and the camera is fantastic. i never thought i'd say this, but i actually kind of *like* sense 3.0 too. i think it's a great phone if you don't need the latest and greatest, and if you want a screen that's between 3.5" and 4.3", this might be what you're looking for. hope this helps, and if anyone has any questions about the phone i'll answer if i can!
if i could break my evo and get this as a replacement that would be nice...
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if i could break my evo and get this as a replacement that would be nice...
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You may be able to since the evo has been discontinued idk if this means anything but a couple years ago I broke my sidekick and called to get it replaced with T-Mobile but they said it is discontinued so they gave me a g1 of course that was when it first came out but like I said that was tmobile who knows what sprint will do
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if i could break my evo and get this as a replacement that would be nice...
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Yeah, I wouldn't complain.
viva la MIUI
It has the smaller 45nm scorpion core which generates less heat and uses less power, so that's a plus, and I believe clock for clock the Scorpion core is faster than the original Snapdragon 65nm core. Then there's the Adreno 205 as far as visually demanding apps goes.
ralphus4121 said:
i got my evo 4g on release day, had it for about 9 months and then bought a shift. i then switched to us cellular 3 weeks ago, had a motorola electrify (photon) and swapped it for the hero-s which is the same as the evo design minus the wimax radio and world capabilities. figured i'd post my thoughts on it here since there's no forum for the hero-s.
the camera is absolutely fantastic. i'm assuming the design will have the same one. it's got a f2.2 lens, so it's amazing in low light. i use my camera a LOT and that was a big downside to the electrify for me.
the cpu is a 2nd generation snapdragon, so it's more than just a 200mhz speed bump. it's quite a bit faster. it also has an adreno 205 vs. the 200 as the gpu, which is a significant upgrade. i honestly don't notice much of a difference between my hero-s and the electrify i had. i don't play many cpu/ gpu intensive games, but it's run everything i've thrown at it with ease. it's not a top of the line multi-core speed demon, but i really don't need that. it's fast, everything runs smooth, and that's all i need/ want.
no kickstand, but not really needed. the 4" qhd screen is probably 90% of the reason i went with this phone. the screen looks great, i really like the higher resolution, and it's just so much easier for me to hold. i actually have pretty big hands, but the evo 4g and electrify are just awkward for me to hold. i sold my evo 4g and got a shift because of this, and traded my electrify for the hero-s for the same reason. this should be a great choice for people who don't want a bigger screen.
battery life seems decent. i can make it through the day with moderate use. if i'm driving i'll plug it in if i'm using nav/ maps, but overall it's ok. probably a bit better than my shift and it seems better than my evo 4g from what i can remember of it.
as for massive dev support... oh god i hope there's some action with this phone on sprint, there's not much going on with it on the USC side (at least not yet). i'd think it'll get rooted/ s-off somewhat quickly, but who knows. this thing would scream with cm7 on it, and i'm thinking it'll run ICS just fine.
there's no world phone capabilities on my hero-s, so i can't comment on that. it seems like that would be a very nice feature for people who need it though.
overall, i love this thing. it's very thin, i love the aluminium unibody, the button placement is great, it's very zippy, the screen resolution and size are perfect for me, and the camera is fantastic. i never thought i'd say this, but i actually kind of *like* sense 3.0 too. i think it's a great phone if you don't need the latest and greatest, and if you want a screen that's between 3.5" and 4.3", this might be what you're looking for. hope this helps, and if anyone has any questions about the phone i'll answer if i can!
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After reading that, I'm even more excited for Sunday!
pretty sure you'll love it- it's a damned nice little phone. my wife's swapping out her HTC merge (USCC's version of the evo shift) for a hero-s today since she liked mine so much and kept stealing it from me!
i made a mistake in my previous post, the hero-s *does* have GSM/ global roaming capabilities, so it really is very close to the evo design 4g then. it just doesn't have the wimax radio... so i'm hoping hoping hoping that any roms and root methods for the design will also work on the hero-s (like the photon stuff works on the electrify on USCC).
HTC Evo Design longer than Hero S??
Just read dimensions on Evo design 4g - and it seems it is longer (4.8 vs 4.5 inches) than the Hero S? Anyone have idea why as it looks like the same phone?
Is this phone worth a 2-year contract or would I be better off adding $50 or so dollars and buying a used Evo while I wait for the Prime?
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Is this phone worth a 2-year contract or would I be better off adding $50 or so dollars and buying a used Evo while I wait for the Prime?
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USed evo OR just wait for the prime
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Just read dimensions on Evo design 4g - and it seems it is longer (4.8 vs 4.5 inches) than the Hero S? Anyone have idea why as it looks like the same phone?
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Its the qhd screen I'm sure. The evo 3d is longer but less wide then the evo
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both evo design 4g and hero s have qhd screens. so why different reported dimensions?
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both evo design 4g and hero s have qhd screens. so why different reported dimensions?
I dunno, but I got it this afternoon and love it.. now I'll patiently wait for root...
All ima say is that I love me evo aka evie... The wide screen is just great for my fingers and the quality of the screen is awesome while I watch scrubs on netflix... Its a great phone but my only problem is that its old and im gonna want some dual-core lovin...
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