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First Gingerbread details

According to this article (http://phandroid.com/2010/10/18/exclusive-first-android-gingerbread-details/) there is an early build of Gingebread in the wild. If this is true, I believe a leaked rom won't be long away.

That image could be anything, not a great article.

aww I was hoping for some serious overhaul of the UI but it looks to be essentially froyo. Loving the hardware acceleration bit though.

teihoata said:
aww I was hoping for some serious overhaul of the UI but it looks to be essentially froyo. Loving the hardware acceleration bit though.
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My toughts exactly. I bet this explains the rumors of Gingerbread not being the tablet optimized 3.0 OS version we were waiting for. It will be a cleaned up version of Froyo with hardware accerlation. Which sure isn't bad but I'm afraid a lot of users will end up being dissappointed.
Of course the picture can be fake but the source seems pretty solid.

Unless they fix some of the big issues in their current "features", they will have a max exodus to WP7

wow nice article the author is just taking wild pot shots to things that will be on gingerbread.

nexusdue said:
Unless they fix some of the big issues in their current "features", they will have a max exodus to WP7
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Can't see it myself.

booooo! blurry pic means nothing.

nexusdue said:
Unless they fix some of the big issues in their current "features", they will have a max exodus to WP7
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lmao
WP7 will be a damn train wreck. The Kin's production was haulted a month end because it sold only a few thousand devices. They should probably just call it what it really is, Windows Mobile 6.6
Enjoy your decade old technology with a mediocre gui slapped on top. It's the Microsoft way.
As for Gingerbread, I hope there are alot of behind-the-scene updates. Gui updates can wait if you're cranking things up under the hood like they did in Froyo.

I think that the article has some truth.
It mentions that the Android Green is going to be much more prominent throughout the OS which I think is correct. The new Market has much more green and in the latest Gmail app, when an email is deleted the undo bar that appears is the same green as the green used in the Market.
All this talk of there being a totally brand new UI (like WP7) is wrong. There is nothing wrong with the look of the homescreens so that it why the blurry image looks pretty similar to Froyo. The UI is going to be refreshed which means the UI is going to be consistent throughout the entire OS and apps created by Google.
From what I have seen, the new UI is going to be similar to the current Gallery app and the Android Green is going to be much more prominent throughout the OS. At I/O, a music app was shown which had the same UI as the Gallery app. The latest Car Home app also has the look of the current Gallery app.

Sarg92 said:
I think that the article has some truth.
It mentions that the Android Green is going to be much more prominent throughout the OS which I think is correct. The new Market has much more green and in the latest Gmail app, when an email is deleted the undo bar that appears is the same green as the green used in the Market.
All this talk of there being a totally brand new UI (like WP7) is wrong. There is nothing wrong with the look of the homescreens so that it why the blurry image looks pretty similar to Froyo. The UI is going to be refreshed which means the UI is going to be consistent throughout the entire OS and apps created by Google.
From what I have seen, the new UI is going to be similar to the current Gallery app and the Android Green is going to be much more prominent throughout the OS. At I/O, a music app was shown which had the same UI as the Gallery app. The latest Car Home app also has the look of the current Gallery app.
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Nothing wrong with this at all. I always wondered after Eclair why Google didn't make more of the OS elements look more like the genie widget or the gallery with the 3Dish grey look. Now if they can get a decent media player and have studios continue to give Android respect and porting good games to our OS I think I'll just keep my eye off that shiny new Dell Venue Pro
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http://youtu.be/dttyQo3BPrk
Check out that YouTube video, at about a minute into it, you can see the current music app but with a UI similar to the Gallery app.

I just wish they fix the damn stock dialer to dial by name. Dialer One works but is aggravating trying to bounce back and forth.
Honestly the only 2 things I replace right off the bat is the dialer and Launcher Pro. Everything else is stock... and its great.

Sarg92 said:
http://youtu.be/dttyQo3BPrk
Check out that YouTube video, at about a minute into it, you can see the current music app but with a UI similar to the Gallery app.
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Good looking out! That is some sexy software. If the rest of the OS is going to look like this in a few months I may cry from pure gingerbread induced joy!
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Sarg92 said:
http://youtu.be/dttyQo3BPrk
Check out that YouTube video, at about a minute into it, you can see the current music app but with a UI similar to the Gallery app.
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If rest of the OS is like that, I might hold off on switching to WM7

nexusdue said:
they will have a max exodus to WP7
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Man I LOVE windows phone 7 trolls!
They bring alot to the forum with their wisdom

ap3604 said:
Man I LOVE windows phone 7 trolls!
They bring alot to the forum with their wisdom
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He's hardly trolling. Google need to change more than just invisible behind-the-scenes stuff, although adding Flash support was a fairly big deal. Android needs better support for large screens, a much better media/music player (Gapless support is way overdue if nothing else).
I'm perfectly happy with my N1 with 2.2, but Android can't stay still, most of the changes since 1.5 have been background things, tweaking and quite incremental. Hopefully 3.0 has something really good in it to justify my waiting for a decent Android tablet.

knightnz said:
He's hardly trolling. Google need to change more than just invisible behind-the-scenes stuff, although adding Flash support was a fairly big deal. Android needs better support for large screens, a much better media/music player (Gapless support is way overdue if nothing else).
I'm perfectly happy with my N1 with 2.2, but Android can't stay still, most of the changes since 1.5 have been background things, tweaking and quite incremental. Hopefully 3.0 has something really good in it to justify my waiting for a decent Android tablet.
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That's what I'm sayin. We just need a good music player, like the one in the youtube link a few posts above, and more quality apps. I must admit I was pretty excited about WP7, but I'm in the air bc I'd be losing flash for a few months, as well as all the cool *cliche* customizations. If Gingerbread is as good as expected I'm saying.
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if that is indeed the new ui, i can't help but feel a bit underwhelmed. i was expecting something a little more than better icons and an enhanced notification bar lol. can't wait to see this release though

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He's hardly trolling. Google need to change more than just invisible behind-the-scenes stuff, although adding Flash support was a fairly big deal. Android needs better support for large screens, a much better media/music player (Gapless support is way overdue if nothing else).
I'm perfectly happy with my N1 with 2.2, but Android can't stay still, most of the changes since 1.5 have been background things, tweaking and quite incremental. Hopefully 3.0 has something really good in it to justify my waiting for a decent Android tablet.
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Thank you for the support. I am glad not everybody just drinks the koolaid.
I would say the biggest task is to finally fix the really long list of bugs and annoyances in current version android/google apps. THEN they should tackle the GUI.
xtop said:
if that is indeed the new ui, i can't help but feel a bit underwhelmed. i was expecting something a little more than better icons and an enhanced notification bar lol. can't wait to see this release though
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I am 100% with you on that.
I really like how MS thought outside the box for WP7/Zune.

thoughts/excitment about ICS?

Just wondering what you fellow G2/DZ owners think about the upcoming android release "Ice cream sandwich". what features or changes are you excited about? do you reckon cyanogen team will migrate to it for our devices? and can our devices even effeciently run it?
i for one am always excited about any improvements to android, seeing it come so far has been incredible and i hope it continues to expand and prosper while still maintaining the performance and complexity weve come to adore as modders/hax0rs.
please share
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I'm assuming you've seen the engadget video of the leaked software? I know it's just a visual eyecandy thing but I'm actually looking forward to the screen rotation animations, for one. The lockscreen looks like it is similar to a MIUI circle lockscreen where you can unlock to different app shortcuts. Just looking forward to something new in general I guess, heh. If it was running on a Nexus S, I'm 100% it will work just fine for us, too.

i think that engadget video cant be faker, cmon a lucky guy from ebay?? hahaha yeah right reminds me of the iphone prototypes found in a bar a while ago
i think its just a very nice cooked ROM, also compare it to the leaked pictures and it doesnt look the same
about ICS taken from cyanogen i think it is gonna be ported by the team as theyve been doing with every previous version of android, so expect CM8! also i think were not gonna have any problems running it on our G2s since AOSP are not that heavy and i think ICS is not gonna be that heavy either, at least not like a sense ROM

As stated above. I'm mainly looking forward to rotation animation and speed increases.
As far as I'm concerned each new stock version has had a similar speed to the previous modded version. So I'm not expecting much in the way of speed..... yet.
Here's hoping there's plenty new toys.
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Visual improvements are welcome, but I'm looking forward to the under the hood improvements. And hopefully being able to run honeycomb apps.
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Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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Doubt it. On my 5th android handset from 3 manufacturers and resigned to the fact that I need custom roms to get the latest/fastest software.
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Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.

I'm not exactly blown out of the water by it. It looks like they took some of the Honeycomb design language and ported it over as a skin ontop of Gingerbread. I really hope that its more than that, but we'll have to see. 2.2 to 2.3 was a lot of polish and cleaning up with some new UI elements, so I hope 4.0 is a big leap.
I hope that we see performance gains, new features, and more stability/usability. I liked what they did in Honeycomb from a UI and smoothness PoV, but I'm not sure how that will translate to the smaller screen. The big test will be how it performs and looks on the next Nexus device, as that is the benchmark or platform example of what they want it to look like. I don't think the vision of ICS is complete when its running on a Nexus S.

Pickx said:
Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.
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I disagree, but I don't think anybody can judge until we officially see them demonstrate it.
If that leak was real, it's basically some honeycomb elements and a bluish neon theme. Not really a huge stretch from what we have currently. And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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Nospin said:
And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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I agree with that. They really need to knock it out of the park. Not necessarily with features (they already have a ton of features) but with user experience and consistency/reliability. iOS and WP7 knock it out of the park on user experience whether you care to admit it or not. If Android can smooth out a lot of the rough edges and issues I'm sure it'll give a huge boost to sales.

The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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Nospin said:
The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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Funny...my g2 lasts twice as long on battery as my lender iphone 4, though I'm all for power and battery improvements who knows what android can achieve.
As for top end androids lagging, I'm assuming your referring to stock devices. In which bloatware can be blamed for 99% of that lag. For a one year old device my g2 blows every one of my friends devices out of the water, especially when everyone is out somewhere and we need to 'google' something, my wp7 friends never find the right info, and the iphone guys/gurls usually never get to the search fast enough lol. THIS is what I believe sets us apart, the speed in which I can fire a google search, check google maps, etc leaves all my non google friends gawking at how easy my droid is.
I'm hoping for a little bit of user experience improvement, but mostly if they can squeeze out even more performance and power saving, it'll truly set us apart from the competition.
Edit: IMO
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Iphone5 comes out
G-Infinity is a quadcore with qwerty and invisibility cloaking option, (just in case) also has a mini lightsaber incase you know, ..
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To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.

costipl said:
To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.
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I also agree, the way I see it the more powerful they get the more battery hungry they will be, though I could be wrong. Cm7 runs pretty damn smooth at 800mhz stock speed so I mean it is possible to optimize the os for a single core. But I mean looking back from donut to ginger, the os does feel not only bigger but also runs smoother in my opinion. But again it could be because the hardware has improved so much as well.
Given the fact the iphone 4s specs were just announced, and don't really wow anyone, I'm hoping oct 11th and ICS blow everything out of the water. Google is most definetly capable of showing some innovation, so my fingers are crossed that ICS is everything we want! Would also prove perfect timing to make even more gain in the mobile os department. They also need to keep up the sick advertising on tv, lord knows the commercials make my iphail pals jealous!
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i'm with the people saying that they hope ICS brings with it better performance and nicer User Experience. rooting really barely helps. don't get me wrong its fun having all these choices and flashing roms and whatnot. but none of them really make the phone work like it should. i still have lag. i still have crashes. full wipes do nothing. yea it runs AMAZING for a day. maybe a week on a really good rom. and then things start lagging. it's getting harder and harder to defend. "no you don't get it, with android you get choice and iphone sucks" ... as my friend's iphone works perfectly pretty much 100% of the time. blah. come on ICS. wow me. please!

What are you looking forward to?

Ok I saw ics like most and im somewhat excited by the possibility of this update on the sgs2.
Now rather than focussing on ports, dev issues, etc. How about we talk about what were looking forward to the most?
Personally I've always found the ui of android lacking compared to its piers like iOS and WP7. My personal interest is in the new look, im running the excellent theme by vertimus and its made using the phone more enjoyable (odd I know) I think options like folders on the homescreens, and even the handling of the running apps makes the ui seem far more user friendly.
my second point I like is the facial unlock, i've never liked unlocking phone via codes or patterns, one people can learn them, and second there labourius
So i'll ask once DO NOT START RANTING ABOUT THE PORT, DEMANDING, ETC. JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.
moderators if you think this is a bad post feel free to shut it down, and ill hold tongue re ics til a later time, id also suggest if some derails this topic u ban them, as a warning..
So what you looking forward to?
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i demand to have a beta build to play with and i want it NOW haha i wanted to be a troll oh yeah by the way when is the release going to be
Just messing...anyways what i am looking forward to the most from ICS. well firstly the ultra smooth fujutweaks that make it extra crisp and smooth when scrolling through the homescreens. also the new layout and animations. to be honest mate although GB is good im just looking forward to the whole OS and i am wondering what the devs of gaming applications and other apps can do with the new beast once it comes out

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i demand to have a beta build to play with and i want it NOW haha i wanted to be a troll oh yeah by the way when is the release going to be
Just messing...anyways what i am looking forward to the most from ICS. well firstly the ultra smooth fujutweaks that make it extra crisp and smooth when scrolling through the homescreens. also the new layout and animations. to be honest mate although GB is good im just looking forward to the whole OS and i am wondering what the devs of gaming applications and other apps can do with the new beast once it comes out
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And as a side note.. Its a shame all the keyboard heroes couldn't shut their mouths n there by ruining your thread
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Ban the Matriak31, BAN HIM!!!
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Yeah I think ICS will bring Android up to the same bar as it's piers, i'm also interested to see if the camera will be instantanious as the Nexus, this will be very useful to myself.
Also you guys have any views on the colour swap google have introduced, i mean green for how long now? and were switching to a colour which i'd call cyan... cyanogen?

diablous said:
Ban the Matriak31, BAN HIM!!!
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Yeah I think ICS will bring Android up to the same bar as it's piers, i'm also interested to see if the camera will be instantanious as the Nexus, this will be very useful to myself.
Also you guys have any views on the colour swap google have introduced, i mean green for how long now? and were switching to a colour which i'd call cyan... cyanogen?
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i wouldn't mind the colour change to be honest..Reminds me of Tron

I'm looking forward to the new awesome smoothness its reported to have . Hopefully force closes and lag will be a thing of the past come ics. and do u think Samsung will launch a new version of tw for the update? Or just release ics and add in the new features wit tw4 :L
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I think iOS has a good interface for a toy with that app drawer and nothing more where you don't even have widgets and you have to go to settings to enable or disable wifi, etc.
Now its about android or wp7 and yes... a real improvement for the intarface is wellcome.

To be honest, I am more than satisfied with my sgs 2 right now. However I will say I do look forward to hardware acceleration. I might not see the difference, but its still appreciated. Also maybe some system improvements would be nice so android would be more efficient at handling resources.

Quite a lot actually...
The camera interface and multitude of extra features that ICS has on offer.
Not much of TW. I mean TW has got better, but is still not in Sense's league (which actualy is pretty big resource hog, the reason why htc phones have never had good battery life). I wouldn't extra software tweaks and additional apps (bloatware..), but keep it non obtrusive.
Keep it as close to stock in terms of visual overlay. Stock ICS does look amazing.
Better battery management, no android os bug.
Better audio quality in video recording.
Better optimised browser and tabbed browsing. All of us do use third party browsers but an excellent stock browser wont hurt. Not everyone is a nerd and we do expect some things to be good , out of the box.
Steer clear of trying to copy ios.. (Sammy you know what I am talking about).
Loads of expectations but well that is just me.

I'm excited about the new multitasking, launcher, and redesigned UI and Widgets.
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I'm excited about the new multitasking, launcher, and redesigned UI and Widgets.
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Basically we were left out when honeycomb came out. They got the deal and we didn't so this is the update that brings us in the same league.
I am looking forward to Linux kernel 3. Efficiency Improvements. Better games with joystick support. Word like spell check throughout UI. Even smoother graphics. Kick ass mobile platform besting multi tasking. Data usage control like a BOSS.
Am waiting to see what Samsung does to ICS. I feel with touchwiz 4 they did an awesome job.
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Honestly, this phone is close to perfect, as was my Android-running HD2 before it, but anything that improves battery life is particularly appreciated on the sgs2... I know its the old conundrum of battery tech not improving at a time of touchscreen frenzy, but a phone is a phone - something you occasionally need to depend on - and 24 hours does not cut it.
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It should be as battery resourceful as an iphone. xD

I'm looking forward to what the manufacturers are going to do...
What is HTC going to do with sense, what about Touchwiz, Motoblur etc etc?
The ICS UI/launcher looks great and my question is: Does it it need further modification by those companies?

I'm looking forward to rubbing my iphone using friends noses in the dirt!
Nah, just the smoothness and overall optimized speed and look of the ui. Not too big a fan of touchwiz ui though! We'll see.....

Cobesz said:
I'm looking forward to what the manufacturers are going to do...
What is HTC going to do with sense, what about Touchwiz, Motoblur etc etc?
The ICS UI/launcher looks great and my question is: Does it it need further modification by those companies?
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It's not about looking great, it's about being different. We ain't no ios or wp7.
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It seems a lot of users are unaware that touchwiz is hardware accelerated, including the stock browser. I underclock my sgs2 to 500mhz and its just as smooth and slick as default 1200mhz, no difference what so ever. If you use other launchers, you will notice the difference big time. Only really need the extra power for graphically demanding games like Shadowgun and Blood and Glory, and Flash player.

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It seems a lot of users are unaware that touchwiz is hardware accelerated, including the stock browser. I underclock my sgs2 to 500mhz and its just as smooth and slick as default 1200mhz, no difference what so ever. If you use other launchers, you will notice the difference big time. Only really need the extra power for graphically demanding games like Shadowgun and Blood and Glory, and Flash player.
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The extra power for graphically demanding games isn't coming in the form of ICS. For that we need an improved GPU which unfortunately won't be until the sgs3 is released. That being said, try Siyah kernel, you can overclock the GPU and have no graphical issues.
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I'm hoping ICS reduces OS fragmentation. Sadly though, I fear it will only lead to more of it.

Improved battery management. Really, I don't ask for much.

MIUI 4: Would you use it?

The MIUI patchrom was updated today to support the MIUI 4 (ICS) base. According to the README in the MiCode repo it looks like we meet the prerequisites to use the patchrom. I've used MIUI on my handset before so I wouldn't deny it on my tablet to say the least. The features are great and there is no end to customization of the ROM. The launcher isn't optimized for tablets but I guess Trebuchet or the stock ICS launcher is still usable. Hopefully a dev will hook us up (or if it doesn't require building the whole OS maybe even I can do it).
So I guess the question is: Would you use MIUI on your Iconia?

Hells yes
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as long as a tablet launcher works, i would try it. i didn't spend all this money on a tablet for it to be a gigantic phone.

No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.

FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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My thoughts exactly. If I wanted an iPad, I would buy an iPad.

nifterific said:
as long as a tablet launcher works, i would try it. i didn't spend all this money on a tablet for it to be a gigantic phone.
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LMAO, indeed.
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In a heartbeat.. bring it on pls.

FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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I couldn't disagree more. Miui is one of the most customizable roms available, ios is built to allow almost no customization.
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Yea I agree it may share "some ios similarities" but all in all it is a very customizable android Rom I've used miui on my inc and inspire plus my old nook but took it off my nook after 24 hrs of use because sizing was terrible and it was a huge phone. But if a dev manages to create a miui masterpiece as well as the devs over at miuiandroid/miui.us bring it on!
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FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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TFordham said:
My thoughts exactly. If I wanted an iPad, I would buy an iPad.
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If you think the UI is all that is different (or at the very least, all that MIUI has to offer), you've probably never used MIUI. Or at least not long enough to discover what it has to offer.
Let's not forget it's still Android at heart. And as far as Android goes, the level of customization is far beyond any other offering. You can turn off whatever you don't like theme-wise and use whatever launcher you're currently enjoying. If you're going to judge it on UI alone, then you're missing out on a whole lot.
EDIT: Of course, I have no idea how well it even works on tablets. I don't know if the MIUI team really considered the tablet aspects of ICS when making version 4. But like I said, any suitable tablet launcher should still work perfectly fine.

bfranklin1986 said:
I couldn't disagree more. Miui is one of the most customizable roms available, ios is built to allow almost no customization.
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While MIUI does allow for you to tweak the way icons and the lockscreen look, the base functionality and user experience are heavily influenced by iOS. A fresh install of MIUI looks strikingly like an iOS device, with the addition of a clock widget.
armada786 said:
Let's not forget it's still Android at heart. And as far as Android goes, the level of customization is far beyond any other offering. You can turn off whatever you don't like theme-wise and use whatever launcher you're currently enjoying. If you're going to judge it on UI alone, then you're missing out on a whole lot.
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But if I was to turn off all of the MIUI UI options and use a different launcher, why would I want to use MIUI at all? Why not use a stripped down version of a stock rom?
Personally, I didn't see the appeal of MIUI. Sure I could download a ton of themes but they never were well designed. I wind up making my own themes anyway, so I would rather have a ROM that was as lean as possible and theme it as I need. If you like MIUI, juice by you.. but I've tried it and it wasn't for me.

Psichi said:
If you like MIUI, juice by you.. but I've tried it and it wasn't for me.
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My favorite thing about android, if you don't like it you can change it, it has something for everyone.
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i would give it a go, i might look like IOS until you start applying themes.

MiUI = iOS wanabee ????
I think some people does not use or never use MiUI....
but anyway...
MiUI on tablet I am not sure that will be that good... Since they are more PHONE DEVICE oriented...
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Acer Liquid Metal running 2.3.9 MiUI perfectly, nothing iOS like on it...

FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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bfranklin1986 said:
I couldn't disagree more. Miui is one of the most customizable roms available, ios is built to allow almost no customization.
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I think what FloatingFatMan meant was that MIUI feels like it is trying to mimic iOS. I would have to agree with FloatingFatMan on this point...it feels too much like an iPhone interface.

tkirton said:
I think what FloatingFatMan meant was that MIUI feels like it is trying to mimic iOS. I would have to agree with FloatingFatMan on this point...it feels too much like an iPhone interface.
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Please could you show me how it's iPhone interface like ?
because I don't see the iPhone feeling on my MiUI.....
-> and by the way iPhone copied the Samsung interface as well....
if it's just about square icons on a grid and a ribbon on the lower part A lot of phone interface so are iPhone(samsung) like...
Just to be clear I am not an iPhone hater, I just bored about people who think iPhone (Apple) is a revolution and are the one create all.... nope... they just improve, or copy and got a strong marketing behind that's it.
So if I take my MiUI interface I got
- Widget (iPhone does not have that)
- A neat slide swipe animation between each screen (with effect or not)
- A way to can change really everything inside (wallpaper, starting animation, lockscreen, etc...)
- A music player directly accessible from the lockscreen (double tap on the time)
- no slide to unlock from left to right (but can be installed via a theme named iPhone...)
- etc..
well I got more than expected on my stuttering Liquid Metal... miUI give it a new life, and memory freedom.
so let me know how it's same I will be pleased to see.

sanaell said:
Please could you show me how it's iPhone interface like ?
because I don't see the iPhone feeling on my MiUI.....
-> and by the way iPhone copied the Samsung interface as well....
if it's just about square icons on a grid and a ribbon on the lower part A lot of phone interface so are iPhone(samsung) like...
Just to be clear I am not an iPhone hater, I just bored about people who think iPhone (Apple) is a revolution and are the one create all.... nope... they just improve, or copy and got a strong marketing behind that's it.
So if I take my MiUI interface I got
- Widget (iPhone does not have that)
- A neat slide swipe animation between each screen (with effect or not)
- A way to can change really everything inside (wallpaper, starting animation, lockscreen, etc...)
- A music player directly accessible from the lockscreen (double tap on the time)
- no slide to unlock from left to right (but can be installed via a theme named iPhone...)
- etc..
well I got more than expected on my stuttering Liquid Metal... miUI give it a new life, and memory freedom.
so let me know how it's same I will be pleased to see.
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To me, the overall layout just reminds me of iOS, and I'm simply not a fan of that style. I'm not saying it is bad, just not my cup of tea. I understand it is still Android underneath it (AOSP) and it is customizable, but I guess the way the launcher is laid out just has the feel of iOS, at least to me.
But everyone has their preferences.

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No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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How is miui an ios wannabe? You realize you can change the theme to whatever you want, right?
I use miui on my phone and I love it. I'd really like to see miui on the A500.
Edit: didn't read the posts above me, I agree
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iOS and MIUI are not same.
maybe a very old version of miui theme was with the same background (wow that makes all the feeling... iBackground?)
Similarities or Same ?
Similarities... Oh my god yes there is ... but since Apple didn't created the "User Interface" of phones neither "Icons" we cannot compare MiUI with iOS... they got idea from something else before as well.
stop comparing all against iOS or iPhone... that will be better.
1) it's not iOSlike
2) it's android
3) we can change everything we want in Miui... and make it looks like iPhone if we want just by applying a theme... but the default theme is not iPhone like at all.. really not at all..
Please people, use the things before making statement...

Touchwiz appreciation thread.

Is it just me, or is touchwiz on a tablet actually really nice :L
i know it slows the tab down, but the widgets icons and notification bar r really minimalist and generally not bad looking!
And the fact that stock touchwiz hc roms come with polaris office and a pen memo means that i dont really mind the occasional lag it has :L
Im also looking forward to the ics touchwiz build aswell.
Does anyone agree with me?
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adamski123 said:
Is it just me, or is touchwiz on a tablet actually really nice :L
i know it slows the tab down, but the widgets icons and notification bar r really minimalist and generally not bad looking!
And the fact that stock touchwiz hc roms come with polaris office and a pen memo means that i dont really mind the occasional lag it has :L
Im also looking forward to the ics touchwiz build aswell.
Does anyone agree with me?
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Wow dude. This is bold. I don't totally disagree with you (in fact, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another), but you're definitely in the minority around here... I'll apologize in advance for the nonsense flames you'll get for posting this.

slack04 said:
Wow dude. This is bold. I don't totally disagree with you (in fact, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another), but you're definitely in the minority around here... I'll apologize in advance for the nonsense flames you'll get for posting this.
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Yeah that's the thing though, a while I understand touchwiz on a phone is ugly. On a tablet its actually nice. :L they (samsung) havent done that much in terms of looks with tw, which is gd.
So yeah, bring on the trolls

I don't really see it. I have been using touching HC 3.2 for as long as I have the tablet. I just recently installed touchwiz-less ICS and now never want to go back to touching. I do not miss polarised office at all since it doesn't work with swiftkey tablet x, and ihave replaced pen memo with quill, which was only 20 cents. But I guess tastes are different...

Localhorst86 said:
I don't really see it. I have been using touching HC 3.2 for as long as I have the tablet. I just recently installed touchwiz-less ICS and now never want to go back to touching. I do not miss polarised office at all since it doesn't work with swiftkey tablet x, and ihave replaced pen memo with quill, which was only 20 cents. But I guess tastes are different...
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Fair enough mate.
I can understand why u dont like touchwiz, and i know ics is amazing.
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Well, there are a few things I didn't like about TW:
1. Bright settings menu. The whole tab felt that it should have a dark theme and in most places it did. But then there was the settings menu that feels out of place.
2. The statusbar is annoying. I don't know how often I accidentally made a Screenshot when I didn't want to. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.

Localhorst86 said:
Well, there are a few things I didn't like about TW:
1. Bright settings menu. The whole tab felt that it should have a dark theme and in most places it did. But then there was the settings menu that feels out of place.
2. The statusbar is annoying. I don't know how often I accidentally made a Screenshot when I didn't want to. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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Ok yeh i get it about the settings. But the screenshot button is useful. And im sure in the newer versions of tw u can have custom apps in the pop up bar?
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2. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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is there a way to change those apps on the pop up bar? That would actually be useful if you could customize that.

mike-y said:
is there a way to change those apps on the pop up bar? That would actually be useful if you could customize that.
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I vaguely remember seeing the gtab 7.7 having the option to edit the pop up bar...
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adamski123 said:
Ok yeh i get it about the settings. But the screenshot button is useful. And im sure in the newer versions of tw u can have custom apps in the pop up bar?
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Having a Screenshot function available is nice, but I agree. But I prefer the way the ICS Rom I am using implements it: hidden in the power menu. I mean, why would you need it readily available at all times?

Localhorst86 said:
Having a Screenshot function available is nice, but I agree. But I prefer the way the ICS Rom I am using implements it: hidden in the power menu. I mean, why would you need it readily available at all times?
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Im not sure that stock ics has the screenshot function in the power menu. Its only added in later on through custom roms and tweaks such as enabling it in rom control :L
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Yeah, but in the same respect I am not even sure if the things I complain about a HC or TW features

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Yeah, but in the same respect I am not even sure if the things I complain about a HC or TW features
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Haha fair enough. Tbh HC was a bit of a fail on googles part. It felt rushed and ill prepared. Hopefully ics will iron out everything.
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Im not sure that stock ics has the screenshot function in the power menu. Its only added in later on through custom roms and tweaks such as enabling it in rom control :L
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nah its there by default in ics
its one of ics main selling points
btw for the record i love touchwiz just because of the extra features like mini apps
the ui hasnt really affected me as i probs only have had my tab with stocktouchwiz theme for about 2 weeks when i got it

BroBot175 said:
nah its there by default in ics
its one of ics main selling points
btw for the record i love touchwiz just because of the extra features like mini apps
the ui hasnt really affected me as i probs only have had my tab with stocktouchwiz theme for about 2 weeks when i got it
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Whoops my bad xD haha yes the calculator and task manager r soo useful
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Honeycomb is a very good concept but a "beta version" software: slow, laggy, unstable and incomplete in several ways... I got my G.Tab 10.1 in January and 2 weeks later I flashed (and kept updated ever since) ICS KANG and loving it.
That said, I do like the added Samsung apps and functionality (on both my Note and my G.Tab 10.1) so as soon as it comes out I will flash Samsung's ICS update.
The Note is already great as it is on the latest LB1 Gingerbread ROM so I don't mind waiting a little more for ICS BUT I really can't wait to get Samsung's ICS ROM for the Tab 10.1 and pretty pissed off that they can't seem to be able to give a less vague date.
I hope they make it up to me by adding the split screen funcionality shown off on the Note 10.1 and a revamped note app which syncs across my Note's S Memo app and Outlook notes..

I think touchwiz on 3.X is amazing, really improves the experience. I cringe whenever I see the stock notification bar (I have to open it, hit settings and then hit settings again to actually open the settings compared to open it and hit settings once in touchwiz).

If touchwiz is that amazing, what's HTC sense? Sense is great on both phones and tabs. Look at the HTC jetstream, HTC did a much better job then Samsung.

I don't mind Touchwiz. I like some of the little extras, etc. Stock Honeycomb is still fugly so TW helps a tad, but since it's so light, not much. ICS is a huge improvement on phones, but not so much in tablets. It's bascially what Honeycomb should have been in the first place.
I'd rather have HTC Sense, but since HTC never had any good wifi tablets last year, it just wasn't in the cards. I will say, the GT 10.1 has been a good tablet and does everything I need it to do, but I won't be buying anymore Samsung products like.... um.... Ever. My next tab will be W8 and probably from Asus or something.

I have never liked HTC Sense at all, Touchwiz is a great compromise between adding functionality and staying as close as possible at the "Android experience" (which keeps on getting better and better). Ideally I would like to have a consistent experience across all Android devices with, at best, "touches" added by the different makers and design and hardware to differentiate among them. Sense goes totally against this.