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Gingerbread... What Is In Store For Us?

I'm interested in hearing peoples opinions on this.
1. Do you think Gingerbread will bring a complete interface overhaul? I'm talking animations, images, layouts, multi tasking, notifications, launcher & more
2. Do you think it'll be like sense, improving social network integration, tidying up a lot of images images and adding a bit more functionality to widgets etc?
3. Do you think it'll be like a skin, simply taking image files that exist throughout Android and making them look more modern?
If they do infact do (1), do you think we'll lose functionality of some applications? Will apps have to be designed or positioned differently on Gingerbread?
I'm very excited for this, especially after seeing a video of MeeGo OS running on a smart phone, it looked so fly. In my opinion Google is going to need big changes to compete with MeeGo's interface (Not saying MeeGo is gonna take out Android, just saying it looked really nice & polished compared to Android's current state).
Google did good work in 2.1 with the launcher, app draw, animated backgrounds etc. but the stock images, buttons etc look so old. I think it needs an overhaul!

Well apparently 3.0 is gonna give the whole UI and device a revamp of looks so i cant wait to see what they do, I hope they make android become as polished as ios and bring smoother scrolling in.
LevitateJay said:
I'm interested in hearing peoples opinions on this.
1. Do you think Gingerbread will bring a complete interface overhaul? I'm talking animations, images, layouts, multi tasking, notifications, launcher & more
2. Do you think it'll be like sense, improving social network integration, tidying up a lot of images images and adding a bit more functionality to widgets etc?
3. Do you think it'll be like a skin, simply taking image files that exist throughout Android and making them look more modern?
If they do infact do (1), do you think we'll lose functionality of some applications? Will apps have to be designed or positioned differently on Gingerbread?
I'm very excited for this, especially after seeing a video of MeeGo OS running on a smart phone, it looked so fly. In my opinion Google is going to need big changes to compete with MeeGo's interface (Not saying MeeGo is gonna take out Android, just saying it looked really nice & polished compared to Android's current state).
Google did good work in 2.1 with the launcher, app draw, animated backgrounds etc. but the stock images, buttons etc look so old. I think it needs an overhaul!
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msavic6 said:
...and bring smoother scrolling in.
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This... very much, this.
It's amazing to me that third-party launcher replacements offer perfectly smooth scrolling and the stock OS doesn't. I don't get it.

I also want a whole new camera interface with more control, and a built in note pad,to-do list, the basic functionality of a regular cell phone, better market support like the ability to block certain developers apps from appearing and higher quality apps as well as maybe a ui revamp in the market app. Also make more use of the gpu for graphcs. One last thing add a stock widget that displays time and weather and make it AMAZING.
Thats all i really want
OH and a better stock keyboard.
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My predictions.
- Hopefully a new Multitasking UI
- Improved or customizable notification bar( hasn't changed since 1.0)
- General graphic UI revamp.
A Google employee said of you look at the Nexus One gallery app,expect a similar vibe for the whole UI in Gingerbread.

Oh god, we're just two days into august, the speculation can't start now. Gingerbread was mentioned to be released at the end of the year, which probably means Q1 of 2011. That's quite a ways away!
Once you get this gingerbread speculation rolling, we'll never see the end of it, considering it's only august!

Forge94 said:
A Google employee said of you look at the Nexus One gallery app,expect a similar vibe for the whole UI in Gingerbread.
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I really like the sound of this although I can't think of how they would do this? I really wanna see a web os like multi tasking too

erikikaz said:
Oh god, we're just two days into august, the speculation can't start now. Gingerbread was mentioned to be released at the end of the year, which probably means Q1 of 2011. That's quite a ways away!
Once you get this gingerbread speculation rolling, we'll never see the end of it, considering it's only august!
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Speculation can never begin too early!
If anything, we're late.

I think they are gonna allow us to customize the UI as we see fit. All those Themes and UI's in the Nexus Forum will be able to be added to stock Android's without rooting.

Blueman101 said:
I think they are gonna allow us to customize the UI as we see fit. All those Themes and UI's in the Nexus Forum will be able to be added to stock Android's without rooting.
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Neat idea, although I think they'll still need a very nice & tidy stock version/overhaul to go with this as a lot of people will review the stock interface, rather than how you can customise it & many will never bother changing it too I imagine! (I don't understand those sort of people )

I think most of this UI overhaul is pure speculation based on the fact that google hired Palm webOS Designer Matias Duarte. He cannot possibly bring so much change in the few months he has been at google. But I will keep my hopes high that they can give a more smoother UI experience (where android phones/netbooks with additional graphics chip can take advantage of its hardware).
A strong and capable google official Theme Maker app (like metamorph) can bring alot of enthusiasm behind it. Would be tough though with so many unique android devices out there, how can they accommodate them all? :S

mythamp said:
I think most of this UI overhaul is pure speculation based on the fact that google hired Palm webOS Designer Matias Duarte. He cannot possibly bring so much change in the few months he has been at google. But I will keep my hopes high that they can give a more smoother UI experience (where android phones/netbooks with additional graphics chip can take advantage of its hardware).
A strong and capable google official Theme Maker app (like metamorph) can bring alot of enthusiasm behind it. Would be tough though with so many unique android devices out there, how can they accommodate them all? :S
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i agree. i also believe that many people speculate that Duarte will bring in many UI changes, but as you said we are talking about 3 months which isn't enough time for a person manage to change the whole look of an OS.
i would be happy if google could at least get their act together with the homescreen which is still laggy as hell and the app drawer which has laggy zoom animations on froyo.
Having all those great benchmarks is cool and sometimes froyo is really fast, but especially the homescreen is a huge letdown.
And the homescreen is the place which you will see most of the time...

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
i agree. i also believe that many people speculate that Duarte will bring in many UI changes, but as you said we are talking about 3 months which isn't enough time for a person manage to change the whole look of an OS.
i would be happy if google could at least get their act together with the homescreen which is still laggy as hell and the app drawer which has laggy zoom animations on froyo.
Having all those great benchmarks is cool and sometimes froyo is really fast, but especially the homescreen is a huge letdown.
And the homescreen is the place which you will see most of the time...
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If it's laggy with you i suggest you return your device and get a new one... because this problem doesn't exist on the 3 nexus ones i've used.

I didn't realise he only had 3 months to work with it... :/
Although I imagine he has quite a team working with him to get a lot done in whatever time they have!

I'm running stock Froyo and I don't notice any lag in the homescreen and the app drawer. I installed Launcherpro before and I didn't notice any difference in scrolling. Both stock homescreen and Launcherpro homescreen have smooth scrolling.
Maybe someone can direct me with a video that can show me what a laggy scrolling is like.

yeah i dont get the laggy scrolling either, but then again i use launcher pro for so long now. i'm getting really sick of people comparing choppy scrolling, i want to make a video showing otherwise!! i'll admit certain UI lists do get choppy. but most are not so.

oh and doesnt anybody listen to android podcasts? last week android guys podcast leaked a little rumor that gingerbread was all about tablets, heard from someone directly involved. make of that what you will.

im personally against making the UI look more like iOS... i like the direction that windows 7 mobile is headed with the simplistic 2 tone menus and choice of text over icons.. things like pretty scrolling and fancy animated icons add more bloat

nobody said anything about making the UI look like an iphone, it was said to make the UI be AS POLISHED as the ios is.
norazi said:
im personally against making the UI look more like iOS... i like the direction that windows 7 mobile is headed with the simplistic 2 tone menus and choice of text over icons.. things like pretty scrolling and fancy animated icons add more bloat
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Gingerbread will make Android look like the Gallery app. If you watch the Google I/O videos on YouTube you see that a new music app is being used which has the UI of the current Gallery app.
So when they were showing off FroYo back at the conference, they already had some work done for Gingerbread.

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Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!

wesbalmer said:
Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Hang tight. Good things are right around the corner.

Use launcher pro for the time being.
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The "theme" is as light as it could be for a complete overhaul. You need to look elsewhere for the reasons why your phone is choppy, it's certainly not TW overall (maybe the widgets, some of them are extremely laggy).

Do the lag fix. World of difference
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From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi

StefanB86 said:
From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
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+1.
@ OP: Eugene's ROM is probably the fastest and most stable out right now. Besides, why wouldn't you have just downloaded ADW by now? Isn't that the stock Launcher on all CM ROMS now-a-days??? I would suggest following some devs on twitter too, you'll see that things are coming around nicely.

Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb

Yea, I couldn't stand it either. Way too colorful for my tastes.

Just remove all the widgets from your home screens. Instant fix. At least it was for me.

eugene373 said:
Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
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Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...

androidmonkey said:
Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
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Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued

eugene373 said:
Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
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heygrl said:
Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
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Yea, I dont get the hate....

The only thing that is really overly slow, is the cold boot-up process (media scanning, especially). Other than that, I find TouchWiz to be my favorite of all Android skins. There is a noticeable lag when launching an app for the first time (two seconds or so), but I'm willing to deal with that, even if there is room for improvement.
Not having some of the TouchWiz customizations is what keeps me from jumping to another Android phone. I couldn't live without these iPhone-like Calendar and Clock apps.
But you think TouchWiz is bad? Christ, go try scrolling around the home screens of the Droid X or the EVO. Those phones feel so antiquated, to me. Though, I'd like to see if 2.2 makes them usable...
In other news: GPS and Compass are still completely broken, with no word from Samsung.

not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.

eugene373 said:
not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
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Really? I thought that had more to do with the I/O performance. Stock Android is going to be snappier for sure but there is no reason why the Vibrant can't handle TouchWiz, which a good portion of is just different colors. My eyes are bleeding after looking at stock Android on the Vibrant. I know some prefer it but I can't tell you how many people think TW is just the "iPhone launcher"

simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...

eugene373 said:
simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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That's not what I was saying at all, and I won't. Simply put.

I'm sure most people wouldn't mind it if it wasn't so damn colorful and a blatant copy of iOS. Besides the vibrant already looks very similar to an iPhone no need in making it look like you are using a knockoff.
To be fair TW has some very nice additions but at a price of ugly.

Wow, I thought having a verity would be nice... If you up tight, please don't use anything I post.. There is no point in being high and mighty...
Some don't like tw, some do... Some like plain jane.. I like both so I don't care, but have source we can work from? Well, we'll never have tw source so be grateful anyone is working on stuff from source.

Gningerbread teased in voice search video tutorial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dugI-robCuQ

Make that Gingerbread....that's what i get for rushing a thread before lunch.

Nice find. Am I alone in preferring the current look?
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niiiiice!!!!!!!!!

I hoped in new and more transitions effects...
but the major thing i don't understand is why some google widgets are white, and others are black...why don't keep it coherent, it would result much better

Even though green is my favorite color, it didn't look to good in the low quality pics that had been leaked so far. They were all blurry and I think over-saturated as well. But seeing it clearly now it looks much better then I had previously thought.
Also, I like that it's being demonstrated on an N1 still. Take that NS

Here's a screenshot of it, for everyones convenience.

More thumbs from the video at Engadget.
The new launcher graphic looks awful; and what's up with the boxy look of everything? Basic UI stuff like radio buttons look AWFUL now. I'd rather they look completely flat (black/white only) then the cartoon-like gray-ish flat graphics they decided to use in Gingerbread - in fact, I much prefer the Froyo look. Popups are now boring looking, even more so than before which is quite a accomplishment. The status bar is a mixed bag, in the blurry pics I hated it, now I only kind of hate it. I think I can get into a black bar but the icons looks worse - not that the olds were perfect but they were overall better than what I'm seeing here.
Overall I'd rather have the old Froyo look with 3D-gallery-app-like UI overhauls of other central apps, more core OS animations and maybe HW acceleration.
-Just an opinion from somebody who works professionally as a designer and who had high expectations for 2.3/Gingerbread.

Award Tour said:
had high expectations for 2.3/Gingerbread.
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Why? Google has never said what changes are coming in Gingerbread, and EVERY bit of factual evidence thus far has pointed to no major UI changes.

Hopefully you are able to choose between a white or black status bar and the froyo or gingerbread dock.

GldRush98 said:
Why? Google has never said what changes are coming in Gingerbread, and EVERY bit of factual evidence thus far has pointed to no major UI changes.
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that my friend...i believe is actually true.
it seems as though gingerbread is going to be a somewhat minor update. changes to the market, maybe changes to music and one or two more things.
if it does turn out to be a relatively minor update (compared to froyo) i would expect that honeycomb will be released a lot sooner than expected...maybe February/march

adam18488 said:
that my friend...i believe is actually true.
it seems as though gingerbread is going to be a somewhat minor update. changes to the market, maybe changes to music and one or two more things.
if it does turn out to be a relatively minor update (compared to froyo) i would expect that honeycomb will be released a lot sooner than expected...maybe February/march
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Fair enough; but who wouldn't consider this to be the most significant visual change since Android's initial release? I would, and like I said, the visual changes in my opinion have so far been bad.

moelester518 said:
Hopefully you are able to choose between a white or black status bar and the froyo or gingerbread dock.
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Don't count on it.

Looks like someone made a boo-boo, the video has been taken down now.

yea, the video has been removed by user.

ahahah i saw it but you can't

The people over at Google HQ obviously need to consult with the MIUI graphic designers (consult with someone, please..). No, I don't want Android looking like an iPhone, but the other various changes they made simply just kill the default Vanilla design. Especially the music application. Honestly stock Android looks pathetic at this point compared to other User Interfaces.. very disappointing.

Eclair~ said:
The people over at Google HQ obviously need to consult with the MIUI graphic designers (consult with someone, please..). No, I don't want Android looking like an iPhone, but the other various changes they made simply just kill the default Vanilla design. Especially the music application. Honestly stock Android looks pathetic at this point compared to other User Interfaces.. very disappointing.
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I'm a dual iPhone/Android user, and while iOS is still ahead in terms of looks (stock vs stock), stock Android wasn't bad. I actually kind of like it to be honest, just needs a little bit more work. This though is a step back.
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http://mashable.com/2010/12/02/android-gingerbread-demo-video/

Just about the most unimpressive home UI tweaks Ive ever seen.
They just made a few things green.
Maybe theres more but Im certainly not expecting it.
Someone needs to explain how some random guy makes Launcher Pro and thus Android home UI inifintely more usable and uniform. Yet google cant even get the dock portion right.
Googles reputation of making things not pretty continues. Im expecting 2.3 to be a very very big letdown.

Gingerbread 2.3 is major update?

I really don't see any real improvement to the ui . Didn't they said it'd be better looking and more useability and fun? Still ugly to me. Give me launcherpro with 2.2 and I'm happy. Gingerbread 2.3=fail
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I think the UI rehaul is for 3.0 Honeycomb.

Google has not even said anything about Android 2.3 other then its going to be called Gingerbread. Never said it was going to be a major update or completely change the UI. All the rumors speculated about a UI change but only subtle changes.

Yep, there's nothing official about gingerbread. We will know more once the xda gang get it on our devices!

generalamerica said:
I think the UI rehaul is for 3.0 Honeycomb.
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Honeycomb is geared towards better tablet compatibility.

I think the major UI overhaul that was planned for Gbread was pushed back to Honeycomb. I'm not sure if this is because of the timing of the hire of Duarte (as in, maybe the UI was halfway there, they hired Duarte, and he scrapped it), or because they just didn't think they had time to implement it.
Either way, I think the major changes to Gingerbread will be under its skin... everyone's just focusing on the UI because that was probably the biggest touted change. My prediction is that we'll see better utilization of hardware, and thus improved efficiency... plus a number of new (but minor) features.

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Honeycomb is geared towards better tablet compatibility.
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From what I've heard Honeycomb is geared for tablets and superphones and it will start a split of higher end phones getting 3.0 and lower end phones get 2.X. I've seen a guy's phone that said he had 3.0 and it doesn't look like standard Android, the UI was much different. So unless he just had an awesome rom I'm sticking with there will be a UI change in 3.0.

this post is silly. if you think android is an ugly system and UI just use something else.
Launcher Pro looks exactly the same as the standard launcher besides the dock area.

It's a pretty widespread opinion that the Android UI is ugly, and that's the reason why Google is supposed to be overhauling it.
If it was beautiful I doubt manufacturers would spend so much money overhauling it as if it was Symbian 5th edition.

N8ter said:
It's a pretty widespread opinion that the Android UI is ugly, and that's the reason why Google is supposed to be overhauling it.
If it was beautiful I doubt manufacturers would spend so much money overhauling it as if it was Symbian 5th edition.
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I agree that Android's UI needs some help. I'm liking the flat sharp look they're going for. Also, good to see they're sticking with black and green to try to keep consistency. Only little was shown on Gingerbread, but I'm liking it.
Also, even after Google does an overhaul, they will still skin it. It's not about whether it looks good or not, its about setting themselves apart from the competition.

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Also, even after Google does an overhaul, they will still skin it. It's not about whether it looks good or not, its about setting themselves apart from the competition.
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Thank you. I could not agree more with that statement.
Everyone has a personal preference. Some people love the ios ui; some people like me hate it. Yes I prefer Android and personally I prefer my android mostly unskinned (other than maybe a simple black bar theme -- ala Desire). It sounds like I'm in the minority -- but I also dislike 99% of the OEM skinned options like Sense, Motoblur, etc. The most important factor in those being what people in the company designing the UI want THEIR phone to feel like. Then this causes outrage from the users that don't like it. You can't please everyone. /rant

I believe there will be MINOR changes, most likely at a kernel and java level.

Well, I hope that there will be some significant improvement under the hood. From what I've seen so far, I'm not going to be impressed with the revised stock UI at all. In fact, I like the old UI much more (it might of course change over time as I get used to the new look). On the other hand, I'm using HTC Sense right now, which makes the revised UI redundant for me anyway, and I expect HTC to stick with Sense for the time being. Other manufacturers have their own UI too...
I'd be happy if 2.3 were just the same as 2.2 on feature level, but more efficient. Because even though I am impressed with what 2.2 stock phones are capable of doing right now, better battery life is always a good thing.

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Well, I hope that there will be some significant improvement under the hood. From what I've seen so far, I'm not going to be impressed with the revised stock UI at all. In fact, I like the old UI much more (it might of course change over time as I get used to the new look). On the other hand, I'm using HTC Sense right now, which makes the revised UI redundant for me anyway, and I expect HTC to stick with Sense for the time being. Other manufacturers have their own UI too...
I'd be happy if 2.3 were just the same as 2.2 on feature level, but more efficient. Because even though I am impressed with what 2.2 stock phones are capable of doing right now, better battery life is always a good thing.
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Google should dedicate one release per version chiefly to combatting issues with efficiency, speed, battery life, removing deprecated components, and other optimizations - with adding features being on the backburner.
That will at least allow manufacturers to deliver one update to fix known issues on handsets and make them work *better* in a timely fashion without spending 4-6 months reinventing the wheel and reintegrating everything into yet another release.
Also, I don't really blame the manufacturers. Android has some deep-rooted issues when it comes to the user interface and the only way to make it attractive to a majority of people is to make some deeprooted changes.

I personally think that android 2.2 (froyo) actually has a pretty good UI. Coming from an iPhone, I find the squared-off corners and minimalistic (moreso than the iphone, amazingly) UI elements a LOT more aesthetically appealing. I do dislike the non-support for full hardware acceleration and the non-skinned dock, but I suppose that that's a non-issue. Hopefully 2.3 or 4.0 will update the UI, but as it stands I'm not THAT bored of it (granted I've only had my Epic for a month, but still) so if google doesn't it's fine. I really, really, really want hardware acceleration though.

Android 2.3 is really a fail!
I just downloaded a android 2.3 SDK and tested my app, I disappointed very much about it. It's UI is so ugly than 2.2 and before, especially TabWidget style and black notification bar.
I think Google is going towards a wrong road just like Microsoft, and android is not as hopeful as before. Maybe when a company grow great enough, they must be going down...
The problem is, android is not windows yet, if they continue to wrong, they would be dying.

I do not really know what sets 2.3 apart from 2.2, except colour icons for call, programs, and web. My notification bar is a dark grey, so a black one really wouldn't affect me. I never heard of TabWidget.
For me, when I got Stock 2.2, I added on a fake HTC clock, a nice calendar that I'll never use, and have been looking for some other nice apps to throw on my home screens. It looks beautiful. I thought the point of Android was to be customizational? And so far, my Android phone is very much what I wanted it to be. So how could 2.3 radically change that?
I do think we should have more customization options, but it's amazingly more open and freeing than my old Windows Mobile phone with the earliest of Sense on it (HTC Touch Pro)

angingrich said:
I think the major UI overhaul that was planned for Gbread was pushed back to Honeycomb. I'm not sure if this is because of the timing of the hire of Duarte (as in, maybe the UI was halfway there, they hired Duarte, and he scrapped it), or because they just didn't think they had time to implement it.
Either way, I think the major changes to Gingerbread will be under its skin... everyone's just focusing on the UI because that was probably the biggest touted change. My prediction is that we'll see better utilization of hardware, and thus improved efficiency... plus a number of new (but minor) features.
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I second this thought. The UI is a little better, but nothing major. Most of the hype I think was just that...hype with no real information from anyone except what they HOPED would be.
I assume...ASSUME...that before 3.0 comes out, we may see a 2.3.x that will include a more substantial UI update. Or it may jump up to 2.4 or 2.5 for the UI. Not sure how major or Minor Google considers a UI upgrade.
2.3, as we know now, was mainly meant to improve the underlying stuff and to implement the NFC. 3.0 is SUPPOSE to be an update to make android better support tablets (is that official? I'm honestly not sure if Google has officially said that yet), so if that's true then I suspect we'll see one more iteration of the 2.x before 3.0 to give us the UI upgrade that MANY was hoping for.
All that is just a theory though, we may move straight from 2.3 to 3.0 and Google may separate android then with 2 version. 3.0P and 3.0T (That's Phone and Tablet). Who knows, most we can do is wait and see. Though I do imagine at some point they will have a division of the OS for the Tablet and one for the Phone. Same features and all, just optimized for one or the other.

3.0 is nothing like what we've seen before. Its amazing.

I still havent got an update yet.

thoughts/excitment about ICS?

Just wondering what you fellow G2/DZ owners think about the upcoming android release "Ice cream sandwich". what features or changes are you excited about? do you reckon cyanogen team will migrate to it for our devices? and can our devices even effeciently run it?
i for one am always excited about any improvements to android, seeing it come so far has been incredible and i hope it continues to expand and prosper while still maintaining the performance and complexity weve come to adore as modders/hax0rs.
please share
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I'm assuming you've seen the engadget video of the leaked software? I know it's just a visual eyecandy thing but I'm actually looking forward to the screen rotation animations, for one. The lockscreen looks like it is similar to a MIUI circle lockscreen where you can unlock to different app shortcuts. Just looking forward to something new in general I guess, heh. If it was running on a Nexus S, I'm 100% it will work just fine for us, too.

i think that engadget video cant be faker, cmon a lucky guy from ebay?? hahaha yeah right reminds me of the iphone prototypes found in a bar a while ago
i think its just a very nice cooked ROM, also compare it to the leaked pictures and it doesnt look the same
about ICS taken from cyanogen i think it is gonna be ported by the team as theyve been doing with every previous version of android, so expect CM8! also i think were not gonna have any problems running it on our G2s since AOSP are not that heavy and i think ICS is not gonna be that heavy either, at least not like a sense ROM

As stated above. I'm mainly looking forward to rotation animation and speed increases.
As far as I'm concerned each new stock version has had a similar speed to the previous modded version. So I'm not expecting much in the way of speed..... yet.
Here's hoping there's plenty new toys.
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Visual improvements are welcome, but I'm looking forward to the under the hood improvements. And hopefully being able to run honeycomb apps.
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Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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JDogg1329 said:
Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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Doubt it. On my 5th android handset from 3 manufacturers and resigned to the fact that I need custom roms to get the latest/fastest software.
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Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.

I'm not exactly blown out of the water by it. It looks like they took some of the Honeycomb design language and ported it over as a skin ontop of Gingerbread. I really hope that its more than that, but we'll have to see. 2.2 to 2.3 was a lot of polish and cleaning up with some new UI elements, so I hope 4.0 is a big leap.
I hope that we see performance gains, new features, and more stability/usability. I liked what they did in Honeycomb from a UI and smoothness PoV, but I'm not sure how that will translate to the smaller screen. The big test will be how it performs and looks on the next Nexus device, as that is the benchmark or platform example of what they want it to look like. I don't think the vision of ICS is complete when its running on a Nexus S.

Pickx said:
Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.
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I disagree, but I don't think anybody can judge until we officially see them demonstrate it.
If that leak was real, it's basically some honeycomb elements and a bluish neon theme. Not really a huge stretch from what we have currently. And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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I agree with that. They really need to knock it out of the park. Not necessarily with features (they already have a ton of features) but with user experience and consistency/reliability. iOS and WP7 knock it out of the park on user experience whether you care to admit it or not. If Android can smooth out a lot of the rough edges and issues I'm sure it'll give a huge boost to sales.

The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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Funny...my g2 lasts twice as long on battery as my lender iphone 4, though I'm all for power and battery improvements who knows what android can achieve.
As for top end androids lagging, I'm assuming your referring to stock devices. In which bloatware can be blamed for 99% of that lag. For a one year old device my g2 blows every one of my friends devices out of the water, especially when everyone is out somewhere and we need to 'google' something, my wp7 friends never find the right info, and the iphone guys/gurls usually never get to the search fast enough lol. THIS is what I believe sets us apart, the speed in which I can fire a google search, check google maps, etc leaves all my non google friends gawking at how easy my droid is.
I'm hoping for a little bit of user experience improvement, but mostly if they can squeeze out even more performance and power saving, it'll truly set us apart from the competition.
Edit: IMO
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To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.

costipl said:
To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.
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I also agree, the way I see it the more powerful they get the more battery hungry they will be, though I could be wrong. Cm7 runs pretty damn smooth at 800mhz stock speed so I mean it is possible to optimize the os for a single core. But I mean looking back from donut to ginger, the os does feel not only bigger but also runs smoother in my opinion. But again it could be because the hardware has improved so much as well.
Given the fact the iphone 4s specs were just announced, and don't really wow anyone, I'm hoping oct 11th and ICS blow everything out of the water. Google is most definetly capable of showing some innovation, so my fingers are crossed that ICS is everything we want! Would also prove perfect timing to make even more gain in the mobile os department. They also need to keep up the sick advertising on tv, lord knows the commercials make my iphail pals jealous!
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i'm with the people saying that they hope ICS brings with it better performance and nicer User Experience. rooting really barely helps. don't get me wrong its fun having all these choices and flashing roms and whatnot. but none of them really make the phone work like it should. i still have lag. i still have crashes. full wipes do nothing. yea it runs AMAZING for a day. maybe a week on a really good rom. and then things start lagging. it's getting harder and harder to defend. "no you don't get it, with android you get choice and iphone sucks" ... as my friend's iphone works perfectly pretty much 100% of the time. blah. come on ICS. wow me. please!