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NAND DFT - Sense and free space issues

Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.

geekyhawkes said:
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
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Same problem with me I only have 35 mb free internal memory ,own using cotulla nand desire Rom
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try the desire hd version, it has a bit more space ..
the owner of a hd2 (us) with 1024mb have no problems with that ..

Hi
Did you try titanium backup to move apps from nand to SD, it should be better to give it a try...

Using nexushd2 I have 216 MB free space.
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!

frankinstine said:
Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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TMOUS HD2 Rocks

I just get free space only 99 mb on my hd2, i want to know why each device don't be got free space as same as ones.
My hd2 runs in Colluta's desire nand rom.
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This is not a problem with you guys, it's just with the 512 limit of our devices.
Be patient and someone /Cotulla/ will fix it so that we can install to SD card.
BTW
I just downloaded move2sd and it works just fine. Now my apps go to the sd and i've moved all possible apps to sd.
I am left with 82 mb which should be enough for txt and logs...

Im glad im not by myself with this. I guess the solution will come when the devs get chance to get ext4 up and running on our sd cards as data.img, that way the problem goes away. apps2sd/titanium etc are all fine, but if you have a lot of apps then you will always be in the situation i am of bouncing off the warning of low space.

The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.

pr0x2 said:
The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.

Google Earth and Flash Player are killing me.
They still hold much space after moving to sd.
Looking forward to app2ext.

nokn956120 said:
Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
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Sorry man, not tring to be ignorant, I do love my TMo HD2. Ido agree with you on the ext3. I have my N1 w/a2sd and its awesome, no need to worry about space.I had about 95+ apps at one time and still had 150mb free of internal. Im guessing once we get a recovery img. we can then get the ext3 and a2sd working as it should. I have clockworks recovery on my N1 and works awsome. You can Backup any part of your rom even your ext3. Also Amon_RA's recovery is good too cause it has PSfreedom implemented, for those looking at PSFreedom Modds

[Q]What's the different between (512Mb & 1Gb) data file running Android from sdCard??

[Q]What's the different between (512Mb & 1Gb) data file running Android from sdCard??
Good day everybody,
I just want to know [Q]What's the different between (512Mb & 1Gb) data file running Android from sdCard??
because I'm having problems with running the MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6 in 512 Mbyte HTC HD2 version, such as;
- freezing
- slow movement while browsing the menu
- can't access the Market where it always saying that the username or password is wrong
while the same Android ROM is running smoothly on the T-Mobile HD2 version without any single problem and very fast.
both phones, the T-Mobile HD2 version and the HTC HD2 512Mbyte version are updated to the latest Radio (2.15.50.14) and Microsoft Windows 6.5 ROM (3.14.531.1)
any hints??

512Mb & 1Gb data files are simply the amount of space u'll be taking off d sd card for android apps & data installations...So d bigger,d more space you'll have for your android and less space on your sd card for things like music, ebooks, images etc...
IMHO....1GB & above is highly recommended so u don't have low memory issues after tossing android on your sd card..This is cuz u might end up needing more apps & some apps lyk high-end games do tk up a lot of space.
As for speed differences between the two Leos...Well d TMobile Hd2's more buffed up and so..........U might want 2 try lighter android builds cuz d HD versions are some what heavier....Also your choice of Memory card class & capacity also helps...i'd recommend an 8GB Class (4)...

The Data.img isnt your problem anyway your problem is that you are trying to use a very old and outdated rom that was never very good to begin with

ZeroNEX said:
Good day everybody,
I just want to know [Q]What's the different between (512Mb & 1Gb) data file running Android from sdCard??
because I'm having problems with running the MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6 in 512 Mbyte HTC HD2 version, such as;
- freezing
- slow movement while browsing the menu
- can't access the Market where it always saying that the username or password is wrong
while the same Android ROM is running smoothly on the T-Mobile HD2 version without any single problem and very fast.
both phones, the T-Mobile HD2 version and the HTC HD2 512Mbyte version are updated to the latest Radio (2.15.50.14) and Microsoft Windows 6.5 ROM (3.14.531.1)
any hints??
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hi
what kernel do you use?
try the hastarin 8.6 kernel. i used to have similar problems (i mean laggy phone) and the kernel kind of sorted it out (i use the same android build as you do). maybe it'll help you (i don't know if it's gonna help market problem but i think 'freezing' might be cured)

voncrane said:
512Mb & 1Gb data files are simply the amount of space u'll be taking off d sd card for android apps & data installations...So d bigger,d more space you'll have for your android and less space on your sd card for things like music, ebooks, images etc...
IMHO....1GB & above is highly recommended so u don't have low memory issues after tossing android on your sd card..This is cuz u might end up needing more apps & some apps lyk high-end games do tk up a lot of space.
As for speed differences between the two Leos...Well d TMobile Hd2's more buffed up and so..........U might want 2 try lighter android builds cuz d HD versions are some what heavier....Also your choice of Memory card class & capacity also helps...i'd recommend an 8GB Class (4)...
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Thanks for the reply, so does it mean that I will have only a 1 GB in the sdCard dedicated for Android and all applications from the market???
I mean if I move the apps & games I downloaded from market to the sdCard using the Manage Applications under setting menu, will it make any diffrence???
Thanks

wrecless said:
The Data.img isnt your problem anyway your problem is that you are trying to use a very old and outdated rom that was never very good to begin with
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Thsnks for the reply, but it's not helping as I said in the first post
" I'm running the same version of this ROM in more than one T-Mobile HD2s and all of them run very smoothly without any problems"
Then how it works in the T-mobile smootly but not in the 512Mbyte version ???

emjakmaciej said:
hi
what kernel do you use?
try the hastarin 8.6 kernel. i used to have similar problems (i mean laggy phone) and the kernel kind of sorted it out (i use the same android build as you do). maybe it'll help you (i don't know if it's gonna help market problem but i think 'freezing' might be cured)
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Aha, here we go somebody with the same problem
Yes it might be the kernal, the kernal in the phone shows these lines:
2.6.32.15.s8.0-gf06973d-dirty
[email protected]#10
Mon Dec 13 17:53:37 KART 2010
And I do remember that when I un-rar the ROM file, there was a kernal folder but I didn't use it because I don't know how!!!
Whould you please upload me the kernal you're using or give me the link you download it from??
Would some tell me how to install the new kernal ???
Regarding the Market issue, just don't worry about it " I was entering the wrong pass " Many thanks

ZeroNEX said:
Thsnks for the reply, but it's not helping as I said in the first post
" I'm running the same version of this ROM in more than one T-Mobile HD2s and all of them run very smoothly without any problems"
Then how it works in the T-mobile smootly but not in the 512Mbyte version ???
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Swap the SD cards between the phones and try again.
If it follows the SD Card (and you're sure the setup is EXACTLY the same) it's your SD
It could be a bad SD or you may just have to delete/recreate the partition and format it.
Your phone are also different. I'm not sure it's just the mem size, some chip could be differents, drivers...

ZeroNEX said:
Thanks for the reply, so does it mean that I will have only a 1 GB in the sdCard dedicated for Android and all applications from the market???
I mean if I move the apps & games I downloaded from market to the sdCard using the Manage Applications under setting menu, will it make any diffrence???
Thanks
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Yes u'll have only 1GB dedicated to android and all apps...By this i mean it'll show up as available "phone" memory (just think of it as a virtual drive but in reality it takes physical space 4rom ur sd card)...I.e..using an 8GB mem card? Phone storage will read 1024MB while SD storage will read abt 6.xxGB...
Yes, if u move apps 2 sd it'll mk a difference but i think 1Gb is enuf for apps and u don't really need 2 move apps 2 "sd" storage as it might cuz slight speed issues since u r running android from d "same" mem card.

ZeroNEX said:
Aha, here we go somebody with the same problem
Yes it might be the kernal, the kernal in the phone shows these lines:
2.6.32.15.s8.0-gf06973d-dirty
[email protected]#10
Mon Dec 13 17:53:37 KART 2010
And I do remember that when I un-rar the ROM file, there was a kernal folder but I didn't use it because I don't know how!!!
Whould you please upload me the kernal you're using or give me the link you download it from??
Would some tell me how to install the new kernal ???
Regarding the Market issue, just don't worry about it " I was entering the wrong pass " Many thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
here it is. try the 8.6 (that's the one i'm using).
to install it on your phone:
unpack it
find the zImage file
copy it into android folder
find the root folder from the kernel zip
place the folder onto android
reboot
delete the root folder you pasted
(if i messed up something please, someone, correct me)

[Q] These is no storage left. wtf

Im using CM7 RC1 on wildfire, i have 800mb left on SD card, but now my programs cannot be moved to SD card, because it says no more storage left on SD card. And this problem is after i instaled CM7 RC1

And this is dev related..... how??
As for ur question, I have no idea.
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Just format your sd and try again?
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Maybe your partition is not big enough?

big enough. i say its 800mb free

Yes , You have 800 mb but on general partion.Check out how much space you have on ext partitions.
I check it in the easiest way without anyy software.I'm connectin WF to my TV and get in USB and there are few drivers to choose then check info about and here it is.
Or with some kind of software in PC

Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.

I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em

vilks said:
Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.
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Moving to SD does not move the whole app to SD many times. Internal memory is occupied too, maybe 25 mb is too less? What's the exact error msg that its giving?

Have the same problem.
As far as i know APP2SD doesnt use the ext partition (just the Darktremor Apps2SD does) - but the APP uses the Froyo/Gingerbread buildin function and just saves some amount of the Apps to the SD card.
Somehow it worked for me if i try it a 2nd time (or after restarting the device in begin - after it worked fine for me).
But sometimes if I install apps it also tells me - not enough space - and i have 37MB internal left - even the app is just about 500kb.... - anyway it also works if i just try agains ome seconds later.
Annoying - but perhaps also works for u

Formiak said:
I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em
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Could you also tell us how 2 make bigger internal !??! If I dont want to disasemble my device and replace a chip?
As far as i know u just can get bigger internal space by moving apps or systemparts to the SD card... and thats where he has problems.
(But yes many custom roms already do it a bit: dalvik cache,.. - but u need 2 reflash another rom.... not part of this discussin atm i think)

i didnt have any problems with 2.3 nightly 49# and other nightlys or even 2.2 roms. But with new 2.3 RC1 i have these problems. so im moving to other rom

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My apps doesnt work from SD card!!

First of i have the latest HyperDroid-CM7
I have also done this guide. How to format your SD card
But even so i STILL cant get my apps to work when they are installed on the SD card. Had the same problem on the former ROM i had. I dont know whats wrong. If i move the app to the phone it works just fine.
PS. have installed app2sd (dont know wich one just googled one)

some apps just have this problem those apps (like angry birds) just only work when installed on phone memory

mkb0506 said:
But even so i STILL cant get my apps to work when they are installed on the SD card.
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when you are using an ext partition, you dont choose to install to sd card, or use app manager to move them to sd card, , . Just leave them set to internal memory, and the OS will put them in the ext partition.
PS. have installed app2sd (dont know wich one just googled one)
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Your rom already has app2sd+ built in, (i think most do now, , note the +,, app2sd and app2sd+, not really sure of the difference, except the built in ones are +) you dont need to install it. It mentions app2sd+ in your roms second post, look out for that when you pick a rom, and you know it will automagically use the ext partition. No user input required.
If i move the app to the phone it works just fine.
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do that, move an app back to the phone, then use a filemanager to browse to the sd-ext folder, you will see the app is there, , on the sd card, in the ext partition, even though the system says it is installed internally.

Thank you all for the awsome replies i will stick to it as it is..
God i love this phone....
Edit. And this site (users)

need a help :)

Hi
my phone is HD2 I removed the windows system and it's working now with android 2.2.1
but I have problem in the storage
I can't do any thing in the phone I cant read or send msg I cant take photo I cantt install application the only thing that I can do is making call !!
the internal memory is totall full but the external memory is not!!
so I tried to move the application from the internal memory to the SD CARD but I cant do this
I tried to uninstal some of application but I can't do this also
I downloaded some applications help me delet or move of application I downloaded it from the internet and I put it in the sd card but I can't open the sd card in the phon !! I dont have the astro !!!
so I erase all the data on the phone and make hard reset for it !!
but still have the problem
the available space in the internal memory is 0 !! >> I cant believe that but this wat my phone says
I don't know wat to do with this problem !!
any one can help me ?!

If you have already wiped data and still have problem you need to install a different rom. Sounds like a bug.
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What ROM are you using? Do you have the correct CWM partition?

hi thanx for ur replay
hmmmmm This may be a strange question, but I'm new in this world !!
wat do u mean by the ROM ?
is it the android version or the kernel version ? or something els?
and sure I don't know what is CWM partition !!
im sorry

Dr.someone said:
hi thanx for ur replay
hmmmmm This may be a strange question, but I'm new in this world !!
wat do u mean by the ROM ?
is it the android version or the kernel version ? or something els?
and sure I don't know what is CWM partition !!
im sorry
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What Android build are your using(i.e. Pongster Hyperdroid, TyphooN CyanogenMod )? Is your Android boot from SDcard or NAND?