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Honeycomb Android 3.0 'Preview' SDK Released

So, dev time?
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Hopefully. It may be restrictive in features due to being a preview
I want to try it but hopefully our screen isn't too small for it
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Thays my only concern for 3.0...
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I got the SDK running but it's super slow and it's sideways...is this really "Android"?

Smokeey said:
I got the SDK running but it's super slow and it's sideways...is this really "Android"?
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Not to be rude or anything but did you even read the notes? Straight from the 3.0 SDK release notes:
About emulator performance
Because the Android emulator must simulate the ARM instruction set architecture on your computer and the WXGA screen is significantly larger than what the emulator normally handles, emulator performance is much slower than usual.
In particular, initializing the emulator can be slow and can take several minutes, depending on your hardware. When the emulator is booting there is limited user feedback, so please be patient and continue waiting until you see the home screen appear.
We're working hard to resolve the performance issues in the emulator and it will improve in future releases. In the meantime, we wanted to give developers access to new APIs and an basic test environment as early as possible.
Keeping in mind that performance on the emulator does not reflect the speed or performance of apps on actual devices running Android 3.0, developing and testing on the emulator is still an important tool in evaluating your application's appearance and functionality on the new platform.
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Also about the "sideways" issue:
Android 3.0 is the next major release of the Android platform and is optimized for tablet devices.
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ProTekk said:
Not to be rude or anything but did you even read the notes? Straight from the 3.0 SDK release notes:
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Also about the "sideways" issue:
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Any SDK will be slow dude, also sideways IS AN ISSUE, regardless of it being tablet only it still shouldn't be. Please, do not flame. What I meant with "Is this really "Android"?" is "Is this really what Android is becoming". No need to be so hard on me...

To flip portrait, hit Control + F12, or F11.

Can we do that on X8?

LINK
[DEV] BACKTRACK 5 on Xperia X10 chroot - xda-developers ​

I think that it needs custom kernel.
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[DEV] BACKTRACK 5 on Xperia X10 chroot - xda-developers ​
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I saw somewhere it is possible even on unmodified and unrooted devices. Search on google, Ubuntu on Android
Look, found link :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbunTRzEQCI

It looks like fun. But our devices don't have much ram, I can't imagine Ubuntu running very well on it. Plus our screens are smaller, so you'd have a lot of trouble trying to do anything on it.

wow pretty damn good, very like it

We don't have enought RAM for using Virtual Machines.

Sorry for reviving this thread, but i feel the need to try and run it on my x8.
I will let you know if it works

even usb otg not yet worked on our x8 yet i has buy a otg cable today but when plug in it nothing happened
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junghyun01 said:
even usb otg not yet worked on our x8 yet i has buy a otg cable today but when plug in it nothing happened
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Our roms as wells as kernel , both do not support usb otg but there are no issue saying that we can't use USB OTG.
The only need is to modify rom and kernel.

vinmac said:
Our roms as wells as kernel , both do not support usb otg but there are no issue saying that we can't use USB OTG.
The only need is to modify rom and kernel.
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yes i think so
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i saw somewhere that we can run windows 3.5 on our phones. try that

I think we should try SWAP to run it ...

hovever you try it, this answer will be what your looking for:
Yes you can have ubuntu on the x8. you can find a app on android app store for it or do it via computer. hope it helps
EDIT: yes, we can run it, but its not working properly, screen res, compatablitity,cpu, etc

BIG NO!
X8 can hardly run Android, how can it handle Ubuntu?!

It works but so slow :b
Use something that has more RAM like a Tablet or so... :b

wilbso said:
Yes you can have ubuntu on the x8.
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Not aimed at you, wilbso - just as a general statement:
Ubuntu... on the X8... on a display that's 320x480 (portrait) or 480x320 (landscape)... LOOOOL... not even my Skype Linux window would fit into that resolution.
Ubuntu, or Debian for that matter, on the X8 is a nice "proof of concept", but - let us be honest for a moment - totally useless on screens having a resolution below at least 1024x600.
Oh, and while we having fun with totally unrealistic <whatever>-OS-on-the-X8 wishes...
How about QNX?
Or... how about Boot2Gecko?
Or... how about ChromeOS?
EDIT: And why the hell can't we run Windows NT 4.0 Server or Windows 2000 Server on the X8? That would be so 1337 to use it as a domain controller.

shvelo said:
BIG NO!
X8 can hardly run Android, how can it handle Ubuntu?!
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wtf? x8 can run android, everybody is just putting modules wich take up storage and sometimes cpu etc causing the phone to be slow.
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Not aimed at you, wilbso - just as a general statement:
Ubuntu... on the X8... on a display that's 320x480 (portrait) or 480x320 (landscape)... LOOOOL... not even my Skype Linux window would fit into that resolution.
Ubuntu, or Debian for that matter, on the X8 is a nice "proof of concept", but - let us be honest for a moment - totally useless on screens having a resolution below at least 1024x600.
Oh, and while we having fun with totally unrealistic <whatever>-OS-on-the-X8 wishes...
How about QNX?
Or... how about Boot2Gecko?
Or... how about ChromeOS?
EDIT: And why the hell can't we run Windows NT 4.0 Server or Windows 2000 Server on the X8? That would be so 1337 to use it as a domain controller.
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your right b.jay, i can run it but its just to slow, and the screen isn't big anough.

Yeah, the battery life goes faster than minicm
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it's useless if packet injection + monitor mode doesn't work
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

shivamchinu said:
i saw somewhere that we can run windows 3.5 on our phones. try that
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I ran it. It's pretty slow but it does work. I made a thread about it. Check it.

running Ubuntu :D

Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!

willrider said:
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
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at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?

makanimike said:
at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
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Most likely running under vnc

yep!! chrooted and vnc'ed into it.
everything seems smooth... except when unmounting

May have to give this a try

I can upload my script if it helps.
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willrider said:
I can upload my script if it helps.
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There are several apps such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid which automate the process of setting it up. Might be worth checking out for anyone interested.

nicely done!

Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?

I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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doctorbconway said:
I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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Weird... I'm not quite sure how that would work - you'd be multitasking the OSes.. which is brutal.
Oh well, time to do a little digging.

We need a native port of Ubuntu because this will transform our tablet into a more productive product then tablets with Win8 .
An alternative would be "Ubuntu for Android", but again, is not available.
The VNC thing is lacking pressure sensitive controls, the protocol does not support this.

how to install？

TheWerewolf said:
Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
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the note runs a ARM image of ubuntu, using chroot and VNC into it (localhost or127.0.0.1).
it would be pretty pointless to show it running off a pc.

So based on my understanding, you installed ubuntu on your galaxy note 10.1 (which runs in parallel with the android OS) and the only way to access it is through VNC at the local port? Is my understanding correct?
If yes, does this run GIMP like other ARM linux devices?, cause this might make me want to buy a note 10.1 more (Still on the fence since I can only buy it on December). Could you also post the resource links/scripts so that other members with their notes can try? I'd also like to ask how is the performance over VNC? Does it lag a bit?

You can install GIMP and other apps that are not architecture dependent. However it is not for everyday use as it is rather slow. I haven't tried image editing yet. Vnc doesn't support pen pressure and all that.
I will upload the script once I clean it up a bit and plug a few holes
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weihan1102 said:
how to install？
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Easiest way is this app, it has links to prebuilt ARM images and all that good stuff.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Anyway, for people who are confused, all chroot does is essentially let you start up Ubuntu userspace stuff on top of the Android kernel, since it's just a Linux kernel anyway. The main benefit is to be able to run any ARM linux software, although graphical stuff is fairly useless because currently there isn't any complete port of X11 to Android so you have to use VNC to run graphical stuff which becomes generally pretty slow no matter the device. You can also SSH into the Ubuntu install which I find more useful for eg. running a web server development environment, or just to have git/ssh/other proper Linux utilities rather than having to use busybox stuff. Personally I think the most useful thing is if you're a vim/emacs user and have a bluetooth keyboard, you can get a lot of work done that way. My emacs-fu is weak so I haven't really used it that much to be honest.

So the performance with gui sucks as of now. Oh well I'll just wait for the official ubuntu OS to be available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
Based on initial data, these are the system requirements:
According to Canonical a phone needs the following requirements:[6]
Dual-core 1 GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; OpenGL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2 GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video-out with secondary framebuffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
Hope someone ports the official builds on the ubuntu phones and makes compatible drivers for the wacom and touchscreen.

[Q] Anyone tried WinXP (Bochs) on Nexus 7 yet?

Otherwise i might give it a try. Well, lol I could if I had a windows XP ISO Just wondered how it would perform. Is it worth trying or not worth the hassle? Would be cool if bochs/ qemu supported quad core emulation

Tozzy2 said:
Otherwise i might give it a try. Well, lol I could if I had a windows XP ISO Just wondered how it would perform. Is it worth trying or not worth the hassle? Would be cool if bochs/ qemu supported quad core emulation
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Too much hassle, it'll sh1t a brick with the ARM chip and it will only look at 1 core. It'll work but very sloooooooooow.
You'd have more fun trying to run Ubuntu.
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mr_tris said:
Too much hassle, it'll sh1t a brick with the ARM chip and it will only look at 1 core. It'll work but very sloooooooooow.
You'd have more fun trying to run Ubuntu.
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Agreed. Too much hassle for no reward.
And even (Ubuntu) is a slow mess on the Nexus 7. I don't honestly know why anyone wants to do this.. My main PC is a Unbuntu machine.. I run 12.10 w/ dual monitors, 8GB RAM and an ATI 6990. Love it.. Ubuntu is great.. For a PC... The problem with Ubuntu and any linux distro in general and why it sucks on a portable device is it is still entirely way too dependent on terminal commands to clean up its crappy package system. Installing packages is a simple click. One click, app installed along with 8,000 dependencies! Removing them is a click followed by dropping to terminal to purge and auto remove all the useless dependencies that were left behind. I love Ubuntu to death but for the love of god someone needs to get the balls to break away from the tired debian package system.

Apt is fine however more needs automating. You should get an option to purge and autoremove/autoclean from the GUI in an ideal world.

styckx said:
Agreed. Too much hassle for no reward.
And even (Ubuntu) is a slow mess on the Nexus 7. I don't honestly know why anyone wants to do this.. My main PC is a Unbuntu machine.. I run 12.10 w/ dual monitors, 8GB RAM and an ATI 6990. Love it.. Ubuntu is great.. For a PC... The problem with Ubuntu and any linux distro in general and why it sucks on a portable device is it is still entirely way too dependent on terminal commands to clean up its crappy package system. Installing packages is a simple click. One click, app installed along with 8,000 dependencies! Removing them is a click followed by dropping to terminal to purge and auto remove all the useless dependencies that were left behind. I love Ubuntu to death but for the love of god someone needs to get the balls to break away from the tired debian package system.
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Say whaaat? Ubuntu is not a slow mess at all - you just need to get rid of Unity, and it's AMAZING. Chromium is actually faster than on Android!

ben1066 said:
Apt is fine however more needs automating. You should get an option to purge and autoremove/autoclean from the GUI in an ideal world.
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first, you could just leave the dependencies there, doesn't really hurt anyone. second, try synaptic, which is a great gui for apt with purge and autoremove options.

kendong2 said:
first, you could just leave the dependencies there, doesn't really hurt anyone. second, try synaptic, which is a great gui for apt with purge and autoremove options.
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True.. But some of us are OCD about trash lying around. :laugh:
I actually dropped Ubuntu since my post and went back to Mint.. 12.10 just entirely too buggy..

ok thanks guys. You're right, I think it would be a waste of time on just one 1.3Ghz core. Besides, desktop emulation never really would be an ideal environment on any device as it's too greedy on system resources. I have been interested about flashing real linux on this thing, but even that isn't really worth doing unless one just wants a bit of fun til the novelty wears off. The tiny fonts wouldn't be kind to the eyes and navigation would be painfully awkward. Ok, it's jelly bean all the way for me til the next update

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ok thanks guys. You're right, I think it would be a waste of time on just one 1.3Ghz core. Besides, desktop emulation never really would be an ideal environment on any device as it's too greedy on system resources. I have been interested about flashing real linux on this thing, but even that isn't really worth doing unless one just wants a bit of fun til the novelty wears off. The tiny fonts wouldn't be kind to the eyes and navigation would be painfully awkward. Ok, it's jelly bean all the way for me til the next update
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Debian itself would be ideal for the N7.. God how sweet would that be? Boot up the small debian ISO and build your own work environment on the N7 from a bare bones minimum base install.
THAT would be fun..

First impressions

Having flashed and played around with Ubuntu on my N4 I have found that it looks good but, as you would expect from the sort of build, that it is barely usable.
The browser app only produces a white screen and most things are generally broken, to be honest, I'm not in the least bit surprised seeing as it's a dev build but it would be nice if things worked a bit better.
I also noticed there was no way of accessing settings of any sort, aside from network settings. This may well be an oversight on my part but I did dig quite a bit.
I have not had a chance to play with the SDK as I'm on windows and can't find anyway to install/use it (and I really can't be bothered) so I have no comments on that.
From what I could tell, performance was pretty good, but that may just be the N4, and I noticed no huge drain in battery when I restored my CM10 backup, aside from what you'd expect from a backup, flash and restore.
I couldn't figure out how to use the docking mode (nor do I know if it's even in this version) so I also cannot comment on that.
However, I think I will be sticking to CM10 for now and I'll wait for a more usable version to come out before I begin to use Ubuntu more often.
How has everyone else found it?

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Where do I download the UB unto ROM for the s3?
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xdreaper15 said:
Where do I download the UB unto ROM for the s3?
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Edited because people are too stupid and/or lazy to pay attention to when something is posted. Good job there.

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Where do I download the UB unto ROM for the s3?
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You can't unfortunately

Deamonized123 said:
Having flashed and played around with Ubuntu on my N4 I have found that it looks good but, as you would expect from the sort of build, that it is barely usable.
The browser app only produces a white screen and most things are generally broken, to be honest, I'm not in the least bit surprised seeing as it's a dev build but it would be nice if things worked a bit better.
I also noticed there was no way of accessing settings of any sort, aside from network settings. This may well be an oversight on my part but I did dig quite a bit.
I have not had a chance to play with the SDK as I'm on windows and can't find anyway to install/use it (and I really can't be bothered) so I have no comments on that.
From what I could tell, performance was pretty good, but that may just be the N4, and I noticed no huge drain in battery when I restored my CM10 backup, aside from what you'd expect from a backup, flash and restore.
I couldn't figure out how to use the docking mode (nor do I know if it's even in this version) so I also cannot comment on that.
However, I think I will be sticking to CM10 for now and I'll wait for a more usable version to come out before I begin to use Ubuntu more often.
How has everyone else found it?
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Thanks. The release notes indicate that the browser should work.
Applications
The Developer Preview comes with the following functioning applications: Gallery, Phone (Dialer, SMS, Address Book), Camera, Browser, Media Player and Notepad.
Other non-functioning sample applications are included for demonstration purposes only: Weather, Music Player, Calculator and Ski Safari
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MountainX said:
Thanks. The indicate that the browser should work.
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Hmm, may have been my impatience, I'll have a look again tomorrow

flashing now, Im on ubuntu desktop so i will have a play once installed and report back very exited
cheers
steve

Looks good
I installed Ubuntu on my galaxy nexus and while it does look good, it is very laggy and slow to respond to touch commands. Browser works fine but very slowly. I too did not find any "settings" menu or options. The camera works just fine and so does the gallery. Power button does the usual lock/unlock action, but the volume buttons seem to do nothing. Haven't heard any sounds on the device either. Will keep exploring the OS but so far, it really does feel like a preview, as Canonical has described.
Calls and sms work, and so does wifi. When i plugged in the headset during a call however, it did not work at all.

It is available for the Verizon s3 on RootzWiki just Google it.
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One other thing I noticed when I was on my commute to school was that I couldn't turn off wifi, which did not help my battery, I do still really like the ui and I'm sure that it will be really good when it is finished
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Pirateghost said:
wtf?
does anyone read anything any more or do they just jump in and post useless babble?
ITS NOT OUT FOR YOUR DEVICE YET, AS STATED HUNDREDS OF TIMES ACROSS HUNDREDS OF FORUMS AND WEBSITES ACROSS THE WORLD.
IT IS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR NEXUS DEVICES AT THIS TIME.
is it really that hard to search for this info using Google before you waste space in a thread?
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Be camp man, just a noodle question. Tell him the trust then let him find the way out.
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Yeah the browser work fine when I tried it, just really slowly.
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Tried it on my nexus 7, the device was lagging almost constantly. I do like the UI itself though, it looks quite refined and easy on the eyes, much like desktop Ubuntu.
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Pirateghost said:
wtf?
does anyone read anything any more or do they just jump in and post useless babble?
ITS NOT OUT FOR YOUR DEVICE YET, AS STATED HUNDREDS OF TIMES ACROSS HUNDREDS OF FORUMS AND WEBSITES ACROSS THE WORLD.
IT IS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR NEXUS DEVICES AT THIS TIME.
is it really that hard to search for this info using Google before you waste space in a thread?
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You should feel stupid as **** because it is out, I definitely had it on my GS3 earlier today. Calm down you asswipe and give people a break before making yourself look bad.
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Jayydude_SGP said:
You should feel stupid as **** because it is out, I definitely had it on my GS3 earlier today. Calm down you asswipe and give people a break before making yourself look bad.
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Check the time stamps there junior
You fail
I edited it just for you
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do you have any information about ubuntu phone or tablet edition strategy? will it support nearly all old model phones?

Deamonized123 said:
Having flashed and played around with Ubuntu on my N4 I have found that it looks good but, as you would expect from the sort of build, that it is barely usable.
The browser app only produces a white screen and most things are generally broken, to be honest, I'm not in the least bit surprised seeing as it's a dev build but it would be nice if things worked a bit better.
I also noticed there was no way of accessing settings of any sort, aside from network settings. This may well be an oversight on my part but I did dig quite a bit.
I have not had a chance to play with the SDK as I'm on windows and can't find anyway to install/use it (and I really can't be bothered) so I have no comments on that.
From what I could tell, performance was pretty good, but that may just be the N4, and I noticed no huge drain in battery when I restored my CM10 backup, aside from what you'd expect from a backup, flash and restore.
I couldn't figure out how to use the docking mode (nor do I know if it's even in this version) so I also cannot comment on that.
However, I think I will be sticking to CM10 for now and I'll wait for a more usable version to come out before I begin to use Ubuntu more often.
How has everyone else found it?
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The browser worked for me, and I'm on a galaxy nexus.
You can access volume controls and brightness controls the same way you can network (note brightness is under battery indicator). There is no way to set date and time except from command line via adb or ssh. Out of curiosity what other settings would others like to access?
For the SDK, although I can't use QtCreator I am able to edit and compile code from a Windows 7 computer on the phone itself, using ssh with vim qmake, and even run some GUI programs using an X server, like gedit and meld.
Docking mode is unavailable, as far as I can tell. It probably will not be available until Mir is released, since I think the rootless X is being worked on for Mir.
I think Ubuntu Touch has a lot of potential.

Is this supported by all phone?

Terencefoo said:
Is this supported by all phone?
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See the list of supported and in-progress devices:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices