Can we do that on X8? - XPERIA X8 General

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I think that it needs custom kernel.
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I saw somewhere it is possible even on unmodified and unrooted devices. Search on google, Ubuntu on Android
Look, found link :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbunTRzEQCI

It looks like fun. But our devices don't have much ram, I can't imagine Ubuntu running very well on it. Plus our screens are smaller, so you'd have a lot of trouble trying to do anything on it.

wow pretty damn good, very like it

We don't have enought RAM for using Virtual Machines.

Sorry for reviving this thread, but i feel the need to try and run it on my x8.
I will let you know if it works

even usb otg not yet worked on our x8 yet i has buy a otg cable today but when plug in it nothing happened
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junghyun01 said:
even usb otg not yet worked on our x8 yet i has buy a otg cable today but when plug in it nothing happened
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Our roms as wells as kernel , both do not support usb otg but there are no issue saying that we can't use USB OTG.
The only need is to modify rom and kernel.

vinmac said:
Our roms as wells as kernel , both do not support usb otg but there are no issue saying that we can't use USB OTG.
The only need is to modify rom and kernel.
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yes i think so
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i saw somewhere that we can run windows 3.5 on our phones. try that

I think we should try SWAP to run it ...

hovever you try it, this answer will be what your looking for:
Yes you can have ubuntu on the x8. you can find a app on android app store for it or do it via computer. hope it helps
EDIT: yes, we can run it, but its not working properly, screen res, compatablitity,cpu, etc

BIG NO!
X8 can hardly run Android, how can it handle Ubuntu?!

It works but so slow :b
Use something that has more RAM like a Tablet or so... :b

wilbso said:
Yes you can have ubuntu on the x8.
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Not aimed at you, wilbso - just as a general statement:
Ubuntu... on the X8... on a display that's 320x480 (portrait) or 480x320 (landscape)... LOOOOL... not even my Skype Linux window would fit into that resolution.
Ubuntu, or Debian for that matter, on the X8 is a nice "proof of concept", but - let us be honest for a moment - totally useless on screens having a resolution below at least 1024x600.
Oh, and while we having fun with totally unrealistic <whatever>-OS-on-the-X8 wishes...
How about QNX?
Or... how about Boot2Gecko?
Or... how about ChromeOS?
EDIT: And why the hell can't we run Windows NT 4.0 Server or Windows 2000 Server on the X8? That would be so 1337 to use it as a domain controller.

shvelo said:
BIG NO!
X8 can hardly run Android, how can it handle Ubuntu?!
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wtf? x8 can run android, everybody is just putting modules wich take up storage and sometimes cpu etc causing the phone to be slow.
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Not aimed at you, wilbso - just as a general statement:
Ubuntu... on the X8... on a display that's 320x480 (portrait) or 480x320 (landscape)... LOOOOL... not even my Skype Linux window would fit into that resolution.
Ubuntu, or Debian for that matter, on the X8 is a nice "proof of concept", but - let us be honest for a moment - totally useless on screens having a resolution below at least 1024x600.
Oh, and while we having fun with totally unrealistic <whatever>-OS-on-the-X8 wishes...
How about QNX?
Or... how about Boot2Gecko?
Or... how about ChromeOS?
EDIT: And why the hell can't we run Windows NT 4.0 Server or Windows 2000 Server on the X8? That would be so 1337 to use it as a domain controller.
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your right b.jay, i can run it but its just to slow, and the screen isn't big anough.

Yeah, the battery life goes faster than minicm
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it's useless if packet injection + monitor mode doesn't work
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

shivamchinu said:
i saw somewhere that we can run windows 3.5 on our phones. try that
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I ran it. It's pretty slow but it does work. I made a thread about it. Check it.

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Sony SmartAR Technology

The video here tells you what exactly Smart AR can bring on the table. Whenever one happens to use their smartphone's camera to click pictures, this will pull up extra information on the device's screen like anything from virtual objects to images and texts which are otherwise not visible. It makes use of markerless approach where it dispenses with the need of any dedicated requisites for special markers which also includes 2D barcodes. So you'll have all the information displayed over the 3D space in front of you. All that you can see can also be navigated by touching the AR information on the device's screen
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Whoa. Great find. Thanks for the link.
Only the Japanese Arc officially got it...Let's wait for the developers to port it to the x10 XD
that's cool as hell...
That level of interactivity.
Oh ****! That's awesome!
They use a ARC to show this...
BTW did anyone notice Japanese are obsessed with Pink Arc..all Arc videos from Japan have a Pink Arc..I am sure there must be a hello kitty under the battery !!
O_O i love it.
How much to have it flashed to my brain?
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O_O i love it.
How much to have it flashed to my brain?
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Lol...this is (as my 6 year old boy says)
AWESOME!!!
Cant wait to get this ported!!
WOW!! Awesome!! SONY ROCKS!!!
Looks awesome, but i would like to see how it goes in real life situations
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This would be awesome if it can be ported to X10. Hope its not hardware dependent.
something like that is allways hardware depended.
And i dont't think that a 1ghz cpu and a bit of gpu is powerful enough to calculate a waterfall in realtime, for me not possible. (that can my PC-gpu with a power use of more than 80Watt!!
It probably will be easy to get on our phones. There are already normal simple AR apps that work and it probably comes down to the devices CPU and camera
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Looks awesome, but i would like to see how it goes in real life situations
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I guess, it will work just like 2D barcoder !
the code would be embedded on the product and by using your cell phone cam, and Sony SmartAR App you'll able to decode it.
Kya bath a bhai saab
zmbutt said:
I guess, it will work just like 2D barcoder !
the code would be embedded on the product and by using your cell phone cam, and Sony SmartAR App you'll able to decode it.
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Wouldnt that mean something would have to be added into the product design by the product manufacturer so it has something to decode?
If so, that means us down here (Australia) probably wont have a use for it for another 15 years
Would be awesome to play with, even if no practical uses
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thunderbox666 said:
Wouldnt that mean something would have to be added into the product design by the product manufacturer so it has something to decode?
If so, that means us down here (Australia) probably wont have a use for it for another 15 years
Would be awesome to play with, even if no practical uses
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Notice the video, in which they create a virtual person and virtual environment, I guess, it has nothing to do with "embedded code" on the product side ...
embedded code was my assumption, not necessary to be correct.
zmbutt said:
Notice the video, in which they create a virtual person and virtual environment, I guess, it has nothing to do with "embedded code" on the product side ...
embedded code was my assumption, not necessary to be correct.
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True.... either way looks dam cool...
Cant wait for a port!
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Wiimote and SGS2

Hi all,
First , i'm french , so my english is maybe bad at moment...
So , i see that with the cyanogen mod , we can use wiimotecontroller to pair Wiimote with SGS2. but with touchwizz it's impossible (i'm with revolution rom..)
Someone try to take "bluetooth" files of cyano (with permissions of course) to try it on touchwizz ? or all the system block it ? thanks ..
Blue.
I wish this would happen too, but I don't think it will anytime soon.
And why would someone want to use wiimote with am android device. Could you give practical examples? I have a wii but I dont know what to do with the remote on my android
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Emulators. They play amazingly on the SGS2!
Can you imagine having everything on your phone, your favourite classic games, and you are just bored waiting around for a flight for example? Can just take out the SGS2 and Wiimote to kill some time, perfect.
Or if you have an MHL cable, hook it up for TV, and play. Better than packing up a whole console to take around with you (for example to a friends place) than having everything almost perfectly playable on your SGS2.
jpxdude +10 ! i play to Secret of mana (a old game i have on Snes) and with a wiimote , i can have a better gaming experience
Once one of the AOSP roms is ready you'll be able to link up ps3 or wiimotes to your hearts content. Not long now... Could always load the tw launcher in if you really miss it
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The issue isn't Touchwiz but the bluetooth stack which Samsung (and HTC) use doesn't support the method of pairing to the Wiimotes, where as the Cyanogen which is based on AOSP does.
The only option would be to flash an AOSP based rom.
This will be genial... Im waiting a stable pt br rom with this function
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Yeah, instead of the Sixaxis use the Wiimote. But I doubt that, because of the different Bluetooth protocol?
artesea said:
The issue isn't Touchwiz but the bluetooth stack which Samsung (and HTC) use doesn't support the method of pairing to the Wiimotes, where as the Cyanogen which is based on AOSP does.
The only option would be to flash an AOSP based rom.
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Arf , i don't really like cyanogen or any AOSP rom .. i want to keep my Revolution roms :'( , there is no solution to changes files in systems ?
cyanogenmod doesn't have bluetooth support of any kind yet, so we'll just have to wait.
smaskell said:
cyanogenmod doesn't have bluetooth support of any kind yet
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Yes it does.
smaskell said:
cyanogenmod doesn't have bluetooth support of any kind yet, so we'll just have to wait.
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I try my wiimote on .. it's works !!!! (the wiimote is detect and butons too ..)
How did you do it?
Why not just use said emulators on a PC that has a Bluetooth card installed? It would make more sense. I'd rather not use a controller on a device that I need to play close to my face to read the text designed to be viewed on a much, much larger display.
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Anyone knows if the leaked ICS are still using Samsung's BT Stack or if they rolled back to the original one?
OniV2 said:
Why not just use said emulators on a PC that has a Bluetooth card installed? It would make more sense. I'd rather not use a controller on a device that I need to play close to my face to read the text designed to be viewed on a much, much larger display.
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Why having a super-phone then?
Omega Frost said:
Why having a super-phone then?
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If you seriously just have this phone for emulators... Wow, just wow.
OniV2 said:
If you seriously just have this phone for emulators... Wow, just wow.
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Lol wow indeed, I never said "just for emulators" but nevertheless, if we can have a better experience with the phone (specially for gaming) then why not?
Disadvantage of using an AOSP ROM is no TV-out with MHL support.
FYI, SixAxis Controller works on stock based ROMs. I am on stock XXKI3, and it works... so you can use this in conjunction with MHL out to use ps3 controller (tested; only works with original Sony ps3 controller - knock-off I tried does NOT work) and pipe video out to TV using MHL.
@ctomgee
did u try it out on sgs2?
i heard that sixaxis does not work on sgs2

SDK Port

Can't wat to test ICS on my NS. Just want to to whether any one is working on SDK port.
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we'll get it soon....dont wry!
I am actually a little surprised that no one has released one yet. Back in the HTC Dream days, an sdk ports would be posted like a day or two after the sdk went up.
I've been playing with the sdk since last night....this sucker's sweet!! I hope we see some sort of ics soon. The ics theme is just so much more inviting, imo...but the options currently available are just a tease without the full list of features under the hood.
SDK port
Getting the SDK to boot on the Nexus S is easy(ish ) in software rendered mode... because the emulated CPU is the same as the Nexus S you don't even need to deodex anything... just update the init.rc with the correct class path and tweaking the build.prop file. The problem is enabling hardware rendering of the GPU... by setting the platform type to s5pc110 then android complains about a missing frame buffer device... when I have more time I will look at the kernel and see if I can manage...
I can post what I have so far but it's better to play with android 4.0 in the emulator where everything seems to work... but slow.
rbrucemtl said:
Getting the SDK to boot on the Nexus S is easy(ish ) in software rendered mode... because the emulated CPU is the same as the Nexus S you don't even need to deodex anything... just update the init.rc with the correct class path and tweaking the build.prop file. The problem is enabling hardware rendering of the GPU... by setting the platform type to s5pc110 then android complains about a missing frame buffer device... when I have more time I will look at the kernel and see if I can manage...
I can post what I have so far but it's better to play with android 4.0 in the emulator where everything seems to work... but slow.
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Please post <3
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...127806-read-only-memory-ics-sdk-port-wip.html
SDK port for NS4G
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...127806-read-only-memory-ics-sdk-port-wip.html
There you go WIP
any NS4G port is useles ;P
ghost010 said:
any NS4G port is useles ;P
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lol
Your right having it on the T-mobile Nexus S is better...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18603430&postcount=44
I would love to see how far beezy got tho.
touchpro247 said:
Your right having it on the T-mobile Nexus S is better...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18603430&postcount=44
I would love to see how far beezy got tho.
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Can you please upload the sdk port for nexus s i want to try it
amjad_2020 said:
Can you please upload the sdk port for nexus s i want to try it
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Very rudimentary, No touch screen. Completely unusable for purposes other than working on it

whats ur atrix capable of?

share what all things you can do with your atrix. let others know how you are using your device. guide them to unleash the beast inside their atrix.
i connect my atrix to usb hub, tv, pendrive, ext hdd, mouse and keyboard......
Atrix - Neutrino Rom 2.6, Faux 1.45GHz Kernel. CM7 2.3.7
I'm kind of strange.........I use my Atrix as a phone!
I use it as a game console. connect it to my HDTV and use a wiimote classic to play snes. I also use it for Netflix and movies. Most recently I've been using it at work to save information quickly.
I use it to do my marketing homework cuz I'm cool like that.
Nice topic...
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It collects dust until cm9 is 100% complete for it.
I only used hdmi mirroring a few times like in hotels to watch Netflix. Now I just use my ipad2. Only played stupid games on it, nothing like gta3. That's what my ps3 is for.
I use mine for games and all the usual stuff but mostly as my mobile office
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I use it for a mobile office, games, mp3 player and Webtop sometimes sms etc
I am now up to 7 months of using nothing but my atrix/lapdock when not in home/office.
This includes some long trips when I needed to be able to connect back to the office and do real work.
When out of touch I can do some dev locally on it (most of my work is just C code, fairly light weight). But in general I can just VPN home and all works fairly well.
Worst case is when I have to RDE into a Windoze VM back on my office system. Slow, but works.
Sometimes I even use it for phone calls
CaelanT said:
I'm kind of strange.........I use my Atrix as a phone!
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+ 1 and for web surfing and video watching
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I use my atrix for mostly the communication part of the phone for school and work. Like email, messaging, calls, and Lapdock. The phone calendar is the thing the keeps me on task. I use the atrix almost like a business tool.
.......the you have all those fun apps you have to try......
That's a whole other story.
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anybody tried full ubuntu inside atrix and connect to an HDTV?
I use my atrix for...
Well this is my first "power-phone" I've had. I don't consider my iPhone 3gs a power-phone. So tonight I will attempt to install backtrack Linux on it (Debian variant) for pen-testing remotely. Should be interesting. The hardware can BY FAR support it, and there are multiple ported arm versions available. Wish me luck. If anyone else has done it, regardless of distro please pm me you're experience!
I always use my Atrix to watch Despicable Me all over again!!
I use my Atrix as a pocket notebook (springpad), music player and mobile browser.
I also have offline navigation map installed, but never used it.
deface31337 said:
Well this is my first "power-phone" I've had. I don't consider my iPhone 3gs a power-phone. So tonight I will attempt to install backtrack Linux on it (Debian variant) for pen-testing remotely. Should be interesting. The hardware can BY FAR support it, and there are multiple ported arm versions available. Wish me luck. If anyone else has done it, regardless of distro please pm me you're experience!
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I run a debian made from scratch via debootsrap and it works fine and was fairly easy to do.
If you are just running this as command line (no X), it is fairly easy to do. Just follow any standard ubuntu chrooting guide (or look up "ubuntu on android"). From a 'droid terminal chroot over and you are there.
One catch, if you run as a non-root user you must be in grouup 3003 (it's in the 'droid kernel) to use IP sockets. 3004 to use raw sockes, and 3001 if you care about bluetooth (took me an entire day to find that comically stupid issue).
If you need an X interface, there are 2 ways to go. Either use the Moto webtop ubuntu to get X up, then chrrot over to your stuff over. Or run a VNC server in your 'nux and use the android VNC viewer.
As I presume you know what you are doing on the linux side, this will not be difficult.
There are a few threads over in the dev section that go into a lot more detail.
Design icons in inkscape? Build websites? Contact anyone any time? Considering its 960 landscape it also allows you to easily browse almost any webpage. Its a damn awesome phone.
I just wish they'd done webtop right as opposed to than weird virtual thing its doing. Ubuntu screams on a 1ghz processor with 1gb ram. Webtop however sort of whimpers =/
Needs room to grow I guess.
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Thanks for the advice your setup looks like exactly what i need. Command prompt and a root user, the rest is trivial and ill play with it for giggles. Thanks again for the reply.
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Design icons in inkscape? Build websites? Contact anyone any time? Considering its 960 landscape it also allows you to easily browse almost any webpage. Its a damn awesome phone.
I just wish they'd done webtop right as opposed to than weird virtual thing its doing. Ubuntu screams on a 1ghz processor with 1gb ram. Webtop however sort of whimpers =/
Needs room to grow I guess.
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Hrm.. webtop seems to run nice for me. Streaming movies or youtube is lag free. My vnc sessions seem fine. Not sure. I am writing some more advanced html5 web apps to test with webtop to see how well it utilizes the newer functions. But then again it is firefox, i expect it to pass with flying colors.
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running Ubuntu :D

Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
willrider said:
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
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at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
makanimike said:
at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
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Most likely running under vnc
yep!! chrooted and vnc'ed into it.
everything seems smooth... except when unmounting
May have to give this a try
I can upload my script if it helps.
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willrider said:
I can upload my script if it helps.
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There are several apps such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid which automate the process of setting it up. Might be worth checking out for anyone interested.
nicely done!
Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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doctorbconway said:
I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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Weird... I'm not quite sure how that would work - you'd be multitasking the OSes.. which is brutal.
Oh well, time to do a little digging.
We need a native port of Ubuntu because this will transform our tablet into a more productive product then tablets with Win8 .
An alternative would be "Ubuntu for Android", but again, is not available.
The VNC thing is lacking pressure sensitive controls, the protocol does not support this.
how to install?
TheWerewolf said:
Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
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the note runs a ARM image of ubuntu, using chroot and VNC into it (localhost or127.0.0.1).
it would be pretty pointless to show it running off a pc.
So based on my understanding, you installed ubuntu on your galaxy note 10.1 (which runs in parallel with the android OS) and the only way to access it is through VNC at the local port? Is my understanding correct?
If yes, does this run GIMP like other ARM linux devices?, cause this might make me want to buy a note 10.1 more (Still on the fence since I can only buy it on December). Could you also post the resource links/scripts so that other members with their notes can try? I'd also like to ask how is the performance over VNC? Does it lag a bit?
You can install GIMP and other apps that are not architecture dependent. However it is not for everyday use as it is rather slow. I haven't tried image editing yet. Vnc doesn't support pen pressure and all that.
I will upload the script once I clean it up a bit and plug a few holes
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how to install?
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Easiest way is this app, it has links to prebuilt ARM images and all that good stuff.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Anyway, for people who are confused, all chroot does is essentially let you start up Ubuntu userspace stuff on top of the Android kernel, since it's just a Linux kernel anyway. The main benefit is to be able to run any ARM linux software, although graphical stuff is fairly useless because currently there isn't any complete port of X11 to Android so you have to use VNC to run graphical stuff which becomes generally pretty slow no matter the device. You can also SSH into the Ubuntu install which I find more useful for eg. running a web server development environment, or just to have git/ssh/other proper Linux utilities rather than having to use busybox stuff. Personally I think the most useful thing is if you're a vim/emacs user and have a bluetooth keyboard, you can get a lot of work done that way. My emacs-fu is weak so I haven't really used it that much to be honest.
So the performance with gui sucks as of now. Oh well I'll just wait for the official ubuntu OS to be available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
Based on initial data, these are the system requirements:
According to Canonical a phone needs the following requirements:[6]
Dual-core 1 GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; OpenGL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2 GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video-out with secondary framebuffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
Hope someone ports the official builds on the ubuntu phones and makes compatible drivers for the wacom and touchscreen.

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