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The "Ice Cream Sandwich Desire Z waiting" thread

Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?

It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.

You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs

I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...

I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.

I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
ashwinmudigonda said:
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.

Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!

According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.

Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today

I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.​
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?

killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.

dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.

Atrix ICS

I know its early but has anyone heard anything about getting an official ICS on the Atrix?
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not as of yet but there's an awesone ICS theme on the market that works perfectly over CM ¬B^¬N.

This was discussed in depth in several different threads go here http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/. Most likely it will not recieve ics but click the link and keep checking it. Or if u dont feel like clicking it heres what it says.. A note about Ice Cream Sandwich: We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices

I dont understand why the atrix shouldnt get the 4.0 update when we have great top shelf specs but i bet the sensation will get it and we have the same processor speed but the atrix has more ram so were more then capable of running 4.0 but i guess because the atrix 2 is out thats a shame will we get it with cyanogen tho?

Yes we will get it with cm9 its an officially cyanogenmod supported device but the atrix 2 kay not even get it. But both might as well not anytime soon though. They want too release new devices with ics so people will buy them and they make more money. They dont make money updating current phones too ics

Still no GB here in UK & I doubt it ever will - So no chance ICS.
Motorola are too lazy & want you to buy a new phone with each software update - So I am gonna do that - I'm getting the Galaxy Nexus. Stuff moto

I don't think most of us are too concerned about an "official" ICS from Moto..but rather getting a port of some sort.

1. Wrong section.
2. There are many threads about this already.
3. Please view motorola's official website about upgrades for future reference.
4. Motorola only stated that 4 devices, excluding Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 will get ICS but did also mentioned that it is possible that other devices MIGHT be added to this list.
5. CM9 can get us a port but the drivers will not be optimized for ICS as Motorola has to optimize them for ICE first. Therefore, even if we get a ported version it won't work at it's full potential.
6. Please close this thread.
7. Happy Halloween.
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Jibraldor said:
1. Wrong section.
2. There are many threads about this already.
3. Please view motorola's official website about upgrades for future reference.
That
4. Motorola only stated that 4 devices, excluding Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 will get ICS but did also mentioned that it is possible that other devices MIGHT be added to this list.
5. CM9 can get us a port but the drivers will not be optimized for ICS as Motorola has to optimize them for ICE first. Therefore, even if we get a ported version it won't work at it's full potential.
6. Please close this thread.
7. Happy Halloween.
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That is exactly what I already said but thanks

silver03wrx said:
That is exactly what I already said but thanks
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yeah but bullet points are easier

dLo GSR said:
yeah but bullet points are easier
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that's a list not bullets

PLEASE tell me the Atrix will get Jellybean!!

Mabye fruit cake but rumor is only in San Francisco. Jellybean is doubtfull

silver03wrx said:
Mabye fruit cake but rumor is only in San Francisco. Jellybean is doubtfull
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Okay. what about Krispy Kreme?

Wow lol that was a joke haha think about it fruit cake San Fran lol

silver03wrx said:
Wow lol that was a joke haha think about it fruit cake San Fran lol
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I know I was joking too lol, sarcasm and text...

I don't really like the OTA update anymore after installing cyanogenmod and MUI. Thos are awesome.

Fantrix said:
I don't really like the OTA update anymore after installing cyanogenmod and MUI. Thos are awesome.
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This is only because you have not tried Android 5.03 (Chocolate Fish and Chips).
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Atrix will have fully fledged and optimized cm9. Nvidia said they are releasing all ics source for kernels etc. for both tegra2 and tegra3.
Close the thread.

Magnetox said:
Atrix will have fully fledged and optimized cm9. Nvidia said they are releasing all ics source for kernels etc. for both tegra2 and tegra3.
Close the thread.
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Show me where youd seen that. My friend from google told me nvidia doesnt want to release ICS source to tegra2, we may have ICS, but only after all the OMAP phones have ICS already, too much mess to motorola to be they priority for now.
Im other words, IF we get ICS, will be only in 6 months or more
Now you can close this thread if you want to.
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Ice Cream Sandwich - Release Date & What To Expect From Update?

I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?

I'd like to see iPhone OS (iPOS) stop ripping off android's features.
That was my troll of the day.

Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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intruda119 said:
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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I know theres not point in speculating about Ice Cream Sandwich since were unsure of what it will bring to the table.
My question was WHAT would YOU like it to improve on or what features you'd like it to bring, you know, CHANGES....

I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )

senectus said:
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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****, that's a LONG way away, I hope for the love of god it's WORTH the wait.
For the amount of time it's taken it should come out perfect or near perfect at the very least...

senectus said:
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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It was from Samsung Italy if I remember right. But I would say mid-end January maximum.
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imo note is designed for ics. samsung was aiming to release it with ics in early 2012 but too much interest from the market made them release earlier. but google (and maybe samsung) wants nexus chrome to be the first ics phone on the market so they cant release it with ics. so i think gingerbread roms for note are just for waste time until the google and samsung decides nexus did fine. and as i believe samsung aimed ics for the note i think they are not spending much time on gingerbread roms for note. so when ics is realeased i am expecting everything to be improved.

Whilst ICS will undoubtedly bring all sorts of improvements to the Note, until such time that a decent ecosystem of Honeycomb/ICS apps is built up (and remember, there aren't a great deal of Honeycomb specific tablet apps either), the vast majority of apps are still targeting 2.x iterations (Gingerbread, Froyo etc) of Android, which means that 2.x apps are likely to be de rigueur for some time yet.
I'm as keen as the next guy to get ICS onto my Android devices (Note, GTab, Transformer etc), but without application support it really doesn't matter too much.
Enjoy the Note for what it is today, not what it may be tomorrow!
Regards,
Dave

I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?

seltaeb said:
I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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As far as I know (at least that's what I saw on Desire Android Development for ICS ROMs) that 'always visible' bar can be "disabled", at least the keys on it. Some more experienced user may correct me tho

The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.

ICS for Galaxy Note
I heard ICS for Note will come on 2nd quarter. Still waiting for the release.
Also Galaxy SIII is coming with ICS4. is there any major firmware difference in Note and SIII? Why we cant use the same for Note and release the official release?

And I thought that we already have a sticky for these kind of discussions!!
ICS will be released soon and it will give few new functionality to the note..
some are as following:-
1 it will upgrade the proc by 9 cores (Intel Hardcore neon x9)
2 it will search for appropriate forums for you and automatically post in the right forums
SUCH AS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490986
Please post all ICS speculation info in the above mentioned thread !!
Meanwhile
Calling the dark forces : ORIGINAL_GANJAMAN where art thou???????

Was the ICS update for the S2 a wipe upgrade?
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kanej2006 said:
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
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Samsung never announces release dates in advance. We didn't get a real advance release date for S2, we won't have it for this device.
We don't know what to expect... Right now all leaks have Superbrick kernels, I suspect that's one of the things slowing down ICS for every device but the S2. Samsung tried to add some performance tweaks and FAILED MISERABLY and they're trying to figure out what the **** they broke now.
LordManhattan said:
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
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Nope - they're an utter waste of screen space on devices with hardware keys.

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Google Dog Testing now on!!!!

Icys is closer than we thought google has now began official testing or dog testing meaning that all the google employees have recieved the update!!!!!!!!!
For anymore info on this or to get the exact words from google visit pocket lint or the other ten websites just thought id share
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Well they just have it up on the Nexus S officialy but you can bet Asus is hard at work getting it ready for us

Dark lord me said:
Well they just have it up on the Nexus S officialy but you can bet Asus is hard at work getting it ready for us
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I hope so i want my TF101 christmas present !!!!!!!!!!
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So, you piqued my interest, and I went and started searching for ICS features and stuff. Anyway, what are the main differences we'll be seeing on our transformers? It sounds like this update is more important for phones because a lot of features sound Honeycomb-esque (except for the swipe on the multi-task roulette to kill apps, that sounds awesome).

asdfuogh said:
So, you piqued my interest, and I went and started searching for ICS features and stuff. Anyway, what are the main differences we'll be seeing on our transformers? It sounds like this update is more important for phones because a lot of features sound Honeycomb-esque (except for the swipe on the multi-task roulette to kill apps, that sounds awesome).
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There are so many changes this update is from the ground up in comparison to honeycomb
Think of honeycomb as the brainstorm and testing ideas and ice cream sandwich as the finished product
Framework changes UI changes memory management changes face detection improved multi tasking etc etc theres to much to list but its huge!!!!
What dog testing means is that google employees are now using a OTA of ice cream sandwich a mock up public release so to speak they say its a alpha but really its a late beta if they are sticking to there schedule plus why would they OTA a very ruff build no point so it has to be late stages or theres no point testing it on a specific device right?
Id say if they are doing this its a sign of fine tunning and getting out real world issues and bugs
Have i read but im hopefull for late december
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Danzano said:
There are so many changes this update is from the ground up in comparison to honeycomb
Think of honeycomb as the brainstorm and testing ideas and ice cream sandwich as the finished product
Framework changes UI changes memory management changes face detection improved multi tasking etc etc theres to much to list but its huge!!!!
What dog testing means is that google employees are now using a OTA of ice cream sandwich a mock up public release so to speak they say its a alpha but really its a late beta if they are sticking to there schedule plus why would they OTA a very ruff build no point so it has to be late stages or theres no point testing it on a specific device right?
Id say if they are doing this its a sign of fine tunning and getting out real world issues and bugs
Have i read but im hopefull for late december
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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.

redbullcat said:
Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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Gingerbread, Honeycomb and ICS seem to be the start of something good
Android is still a baby in OS terms, Windows is an Old boy now but Windows 7 was the first decent OS since .... maybe 2000 or XP if you like that kind of thing
Computers are only just becoming powerful and affordable if you look at even 5 years ago
In the next 10 years we will see magic happen, in 20 years we will be laughing at the things we call cutting edge today and I am planning on being here in another 40 years time, just imagine...

You guys know that ICS is fully out on the Galaxy Nexus, which is already released in Europe, right?

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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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I meant more this release of android is nearing completion for the list of devices getting OTA's including our TF101
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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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While I have no argument with Matias' comments, I do think that Android is, by now, a mature product compared to where it was with the 1.x or even 2.x versions.

Android 4.0 comes to Nexus S starting today

I guess development of the ICS port for our SGS will get a little better after this
Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) comes to GSM / UMTS Nexus S starting today and maybe we'll see some ICS "leaks" for SGS too

already posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395957

AllGamer said:
already posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395957
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damn just found out and wanted to share with my buddies here
someone should make a sticky about this info so we won't see what happened when 4.0 was released

Crap. Not for 9020A

is this gonne help the modding / making of ics rom for ouhr i9000's

SKeijmel said:
is this gonne help the modding / making of ics rom for ouhr i9000's
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Yes, i guess it will help the developers somewhat for CM9.
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[*] Some camera options FC. (The camera is a temporary hack, when the Nexus S ICS source is released, there will be a proper fix.)
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I believe it will help with the hardware composition, gpu drivers etc... People on the Nexus forum say it's ultra fast! I want my SGS ultra fast too!
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How ca i install this on my galacy s?
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If sammy wont act like a b*tch, then we will also get ICS like the nexus s one in one or two months, hopefully. I dont even want the touchwiz itself on my sgs with ICS, only the music and video player from SGS GB those are for me the best apps.
So lets just hope that there will be soon an update for our awesome phone
cauz there arent so many differences between the phones, ok, cam is different, touch keys are different and nand flash is different. But doesnt matter^^ If sammy wont do anything, there is CM9 ;D

I really hope Sammy is listening to us... we never had the chance to use all the horse power in this phone!!

lets send billions of e-mail twit fb... to samsung so they hear

Not a bad idea!!!!