hi guys, is anyone messing about with these yet, just been flicking through the sections and didnt come across a thread for these models, just wondered why, any help appreciated!
i dont think they've sold as many as the gen 8's. simply because the releases were so close to eachother.
Close to each other?
1 year is not close.
The reason might be that the devs still are waiting for the real version, the 1.5GHz OMAP4460 before buying one.
me too
i wait !!!!!!!!!!
Not a bad idea either way... Can someone lQQk into it?
y but mainly i dont wait for the CPU power but for (hopefully) some usefull memory setup (1GB) and not the same crap they did to the Gen8 series.
Really they build such a nice device but the only thing preventing it form being AWSOME is the low memory...
What is the average data transfer rate of the WiFi radio in the Gen 9 tablets?
I'm curious if it is the same Bull Sh_t max 54 meg/sec rate in the Gen 8's, which just barely allowed Archos to label it as having 801.11n capability.
i have all gen9 with 1ghz
if you have questions !
I got the 80 G9 yesterday. Looks good. Zippy. But I see there is at least a second lag between pressing the power button and the lock screen coming on. and today morning, I think (after a night's rest), it went into a SOD. I had to hold down power screen for a reboot. Anyone else?
Had mine for over a month now...
I like it a lot. It's a lot snappier than the Gen8 models. Archos did increase the memory by 50% but didn't go to 1GB unfortunately; still, it works very well at 768MB.
I got mine on September 27th and I've been using it daily ever since. Works very well. The only negatives I have to say about it is that they haven't released the 3G stick for the US yet and it does sometimes lockup and require a reboot. Archos has released three updates since I got mine. The tablet froze on me twice the first weekend I had it; keep in mind that I was really using it hard during this time, adding apps and music and such. After I finalized my initial setup, it became more stable. I received an update the first week I had it, if memory serves, and afterward it was very stable. Then I received a second update a week or so ago and afterward, it started locking up periodically again. I downloaded the latest update last night and I'm hoping it corrects the locking up issue but nothing was said about that in the change logs. Even so, it might lock up once or twice a week and is easy and quick to reset; so, it hasn't been a major issue for me yet. I'd still like to see them stabilize the device though.
Regards,
Jack
Hi Jack,
I've just received one and it has the ripple just in front of the full size USB port when you press on the back. Have you seen this problem or heard anything definite about the fix/repair for this issue?
Thanks
Are you referring to something you see on the screen, like a pressure point as if the screen is being squeezed? If so, I have seen that on mine from time to time but haven't been concerned about it. If I had to guess, I would say that they packed a little to much hardware in the case at that point.
Is that the battery of A80 G9 is as much as the A70IT? I search on google and everything is culculated by using hour but not mA.
I don't really know if it's the same battery or not. If I had to guess, I would say it's more likely the same one that was in their 101 model from last year (or similar) because the screen on the A80 is quite a bit larger than the A70 and brighter too. But I just don't know. For all I know, it could be a completely new battery. I do know that the battery life on the tablet is very good. I mostly use mine for reading ebooks, internet browsing and e-mail and I normally get a couple of days out of it before charging and even then, it's usually at the 30 - 50% level when I plug it up. I have no complaints about the battery to date.
So how many percent that the battery drains per hour when u r brownsing via wifi or reading book? The A70IT's battery is 3850mA and it is not enough for me. But the A80 is running Android 3.0 so I think It will drain more battery than A70 running Android 2.2 does.
I have the A70 too; used that up until the A80 came out. I never really had trouble with the A70 running out of power on me but it seems to me that the A70 does drain faster than the A80. I haven't really monitored it in any scientific way. If it were giving me problems I would but it works well so I haven't bothered. I read on it more than I browse and I'll read anywhere from a few minutes, an hour or sometimes two or more hours at a time. And it seems to drain pretty slowly to me.
I also use it for testing mobile solutions at work and sometimes have it on for an hour or more at a time while running tests. I can't give you any sort of accurate number but it does do well on battery. If you've used an iPad any, I would estimate that it is comparable to the iPad for active battery use. I don't know about idle because mine is never idle more than a few hours at a time while my iPad is sometimes idle for days at a time. I suspect, that on idle, it wouldn't compare as well to the iPad because for some reason, Archos likes to leave that power LED burning all the time.
Anyway, when compared to the A70, in my usage, the A80 seems to do better on battery use. I used to have to charge my A70 every night but like I said ealier, I only charge my A80 about every other day and if anything, I use it a little more than I did the A70.
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Oh by the way, I used to leave the Wi-Fi turned off on my A70 to conserve battery; just turned it on when I needed it. I don't do that on the A80 and it still does better.
Thank 4 ur information. I've tested A80 at a retail store and a surprising thing was that the back of the A80 began to get hotter after 5 minutes watching youtube and began extremely hot after ~10 minutes. I dont know that device had any technical problem or not but my A70 was hot if I brownsed or watched youtube for more than half an hour. I think when the A80's chip is getting hot, It will drain more battery.
And one more thing, is the soft keyboard of A80 sensitive or not? I cant test it because the salesman was not happy when I had a device test. My A70 got a problem that after I have a long press on the screen, It will take 1s delay to press another key. For example, when Im gonna type [email protected] on my A70 soft keyboard, the screen just only appears [email protected] (letter "g" is disappeared). I make a long press on letter "A" to type "@" instead of use "alt". Is it normal or not?
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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG
Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
bhang said:
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
QUOTE jashsu
I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail
Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
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As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
This is my opinion. I'm a long time Android user.
I purchased this device with the excitement of it being a mixture of my 2 favorite interfaces.
The phone itself is nice looking. The screen is curved leaving it difficult to install a screen protector.
The back is extremely 'grippy' but feels loose towards the middle.
The software is buggy and i think they should have definately spent more time with it. Had a couple of random reboots and freezes within the 1st day.
The phone was randomly getting hot to touch, even after i stopped running background app's, and when it was doing this the battery life would drop quick, very quick.....
The phone does get warm fast, no matter what other people tell you. Simply browsing chrome or facebook i could feel the heat within 3-4 minutes.
The battery life i experienced was abysmal! After 5 charging cycles it didnt get any better, i averaged just on 3.5 hrs screen on time, for a 3400mah battery thats pretty bad. Especially for a so called business device thats even worse.
The sound through the bottom speaker grill was average.
The only thing i thought was realy good was the actual phone calls, sound was loud and clear.
The price of this phone is absolutely ridiculous!!! Its not worth what there asking.
The phone is a big let down for me. I was shocked.
If you want true blackberry, save your money and get a Passport.
My opinions.
I am planning to get the silver passport...
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Just about everyone reported good battery life with this thing. Ya sure you weren't running a lot of junk apps in the background?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not buying it. The keyboard is trash. But still.
Did you update anything? For some reason the Blackberry apps don't say they need updates, you have to visit their store page and update there. Also, unlinking and relinking your email account in the hub may help with your heat issues. There's also the chance you just got a lemon.
I updated all my apps i made sure i had nothing running in the background. Im pretty good with Android. No my way round somewhat.
If you get one just make sure you have the ability to return it easily enough.
I returned mine to the store and got a LG G4 instead which is an unbelievably good phone.
You can try out these steps to make sure you have the latest Blackberry apps on your Priv: http://crackberry.com/get-latest-app-updates-your-blackberry-priv-automatically
I have 0 battery issues. yes it gets warm, but that's probably as much as my oneplus 2. I'm easily getting 5 - 6hrs SOT over 18 hrs.
So far i am liking this device. I have an s6 edge, passport original (sold now), passport silver, which is the only device i have ever went back to after getting rid of. Now a Priv. So after getting it all set up with gmail, hub, twitter, facebook, corporate email, and some other random apps and charged up to 100% i went to bed with it unplugged. Woke up 7 hours later battery was at 96. Not bad for overnight. The productivity edge compared to the people edge on the s6 is a grand slam, its almost like having google now launcher after all primed up. Double tap to wake is flawless so far. I must say i am impressed. being able to hotkey all the keyboard keys just like my passport is great. I have not seen a single glitch yet. This device, for launchday software on a new platform for Blackberry is quite polished. I am not a blackberry loyalist by any means, but the subtle customizations and natively being able to set the flashing LED colour to different alerts is all baked in. I think im going to sell my Edge.
markdexter said:
I updated all my apps i made sure i had nothing running in the background. Im pretty good with Android. No my way round somewhat.
If you get one just make sure you have the ability to return it easily enough.
I returned mine to the store and got a LG G4 instead which is an unbelievably good phone.
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The G4 is a great phone. I want to try the Priv but can't justify dropping my G4 for it!
Can someone please tell me if it is possible to remove battery percentage from status bar??? Please.....
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Battery is awesome!! No complains!
Totally disagree with OP. My experience is very different. Great business device with good replication of the best of BB10.
Aside from the heating thing, everything else seems to be your device only. You might have gotten a faulty device.
I've been using the Priv for a week now, neither a single random reboot nor a freeze happened. The phone is fluid, and no lags. It does get warm quite quickly, but not to the extent you're describing here ("hot to touch"). It gets as warm as other devices, but quicker.
I wouldn't go as far as returning the device only for these issues, I'd get it replaced instead. But then again, that's just me, and I have been excited about it since its rumours and renders. If you weren't excited about it, or just looking for a "new device" to test, I'd understand why you were eager to return it.
I also wasn't pleased with the battery life. I own a moto x play, has a 3,600 mah battery, I average 6.5- 7 hrs screen on time, the priv have me about 3hrs with a similar size battery??!!
Mine is back in the box ready to be returned also same issue. So hot almost too hot to touch. Constant fc on chrome and hanging battery life absolute ****e and worst of all how the sharp corner sticks into your hand on obe handed use. ..so disappointed as I was waiting since release day..total pants if you ask me
Heat issues may be dependent upon your network as I found in the UK that on EE very little warming but a bit more warming on Vodafone.
Yeah mine was on voda
I'm actually pretty happy with the priv - mine only gets slightly warm under load, doesn't randomly reboot or crash, the screen doesn't click, the front and rear cameras both work flawlessly...
however, I'm on the verge of returning it due to the physical keyboard. People complain that it's cramped and small, but I have no issue with that either. My main issue is that it drops keys randomly and can't keep up with the typing - it happens most frequently when typing double letters ("google" -> "gogle", or "good"->"god"), but it also randomly drops keys elsewhere too. I'm pretty sure it's not me as I intentionally type very deliberately to see, and I hear/feel the key click down - but nothing registers on the screen.
For a company that built its reputation on having the best in class keyboard... this is pretty disappointing.
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Heat issues may be dependent upon your network as I found in the UK that on EE very little warming but a bit more warming on Vodafone.
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If this is the case what a major flaw, if your on a certain network you could potentially Cook an egg on the back of your priv with the heat!!
Give it a couple of full drain/charge cycles and you'll be fine. Software is a bit buggy yes. But since this such an important phone for BB, you can be assured constant software updates will make this into a monster.
Give it a real chance before you dismiss it.
Here's my SOT after 1 week of use. Here with 34% left. This will get you up to 6 hours SOT.
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I know I'm not alone on this one, I have to constantly cool down, it's totally intermittent and it's scalding....I hope it will be fixed soon and not just a myth. the folks at ATT said it had something to do with being more green. I think if an app is spinning in the background, it should be told to stop....
Mine gets very warm very quickly, but hasn't (yet) gotten hot. Certainly not "uncomfortable to hold" hot, anyway.
yeahh, i just received the phone and there are a lot of downloads an updates, but the phone is really hot. with a normal charger i hane no charging at all. the drain is bigger than than the energy from the charger.
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I know I'm not alone on this one, I have to constantly cool down, it's totally intermittent and it's scalding....I hope it will be fixed soon and not just a myth. the folks at ATT said it had something to do with being more green. I think if an app is spinning in the background, it should be told to stop....
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I have been told by BlackBerry tech support the heat temperature flare ups could be caused by the encryption that is being done in the background.
Mine doesn't get to hot but it does get as warm as my note 5. I purchased egrip stickers from amazon to improve the grip and it has also helped with the comfort of the amount of heat you feel while holding the device in your hand and my pocket
I found a great app called "ShutApp" It let's you shut everything down that's running in the background. I have 117, It's running so much cooler now and the battery is lasting longer.
It's still not fixed got very hot in airplane mode plugged in at 100%, it dropped to 97 still plugged in So it must be something to do with charging.. It also just comes and goes as I'm working or watching a video...but sometimes under the same load it stays cool....
12/7 3rd party Camara apps are really cooking, and with short use maybe there should be a handwarmer app (lol)
12/11 I'm sad that this is electing my future non removable battery's life! ..at 100% I reboot in airplane with no apps running in background and plugged in it returned to 99% and started baking.. this is a power problem......
Yes my BlackBerry does get hot for no reason. All my apps are shut, last night i had it in my pocket and i felt it on my leg very warm. As I'm typing this right now i also feel it in the middle back of the phone. I really hope they fix this. As for battery life i am very disappointed, I thought it was supposed to be 22 hours and my lasts like 8 to 10 hours. I even got myself a Aukey portable battery charger and Aukey quick charger, it does charge fast like 1 hour and 30 minutes but it also drains quick. Apparently what drains it the most if being connected to WiFi. Really hoping they find a root for this or fix all these problems or I'm going back to Samsung.
the last update is solved this problem?
Serious hot spots have occurred in Airplane with minimal background while just working on a pic or document.. This is a serious problem and is leaning towards being a hardware issue.. Even though it helps to run an efficient system .. IT should be able to tell whatever when it is getting that hot to cool off....
I will hope to exchange it a third time But not until I know the replacement they give me isn't nt just another of the same....
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usernoob said:
I know I'm not alone on this one, I have to constantly cool down, it's totally intermittent and it's scalding....I hope it will be fixed soon and not just a myth. the folks at ATT said it had something to do with being more green. I think if an app is spinning in the background, it should be told to stop....
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The priv is the very first of its kind but here are some things you can do to cool it down
1: Turn The Brightness Down- most phones tend to heat up because the battry is pushing alot of power to the screen to make it brighter
2:Android: The Priv is the first blackberry not running the original OS; It's now running on Android Marshmallow which has a lot of animations and alot mor functionality so this could also cause it.
3: Replace The Battery: Yes I know it's the battery that came with the phone. I have 3 friends with the priv and when 2 of them went from stock battery to generic there phone did not turn into a brick out of the oven!
I hope this helped!
~ Jake The Steak
i had this issue for the first 2-3 days of getting the phone. disabled a few of the 'neat' settings ( wake on pick up, bb keyboard predictions, using swiftkey instead of bb keyboard, maybe a few others ) and since then it doesnt even get warm, like at all.. had it on for 20 minutes playing a youtube video and the phone was still cool...
Bought mine 2 weeks ago, it does get pretty hot (to the point of not touching it sometimes).
Only when I play games or snapchat, browsing internet doesn't heat it too much.
Especially when charging, so I try not to use it as much.
But the battery drops the same so it doesn't matter much, I just let it cool down and continue
Are you on any marshmallow rom ?
I haven't had any problems while using marshmallow.
Seriously, what's wrong with the Z5 compact? the Z3 compact was a longhaul wonder but I had to upgrade, since the back cover piece of "glass" was so fragile, it broke several times without much or any force exposed to it. Exchanging it anyway never got it waterproof again.
But the longer the more updates are coming to the Z5 compact, the less it's battery holds and I only got it since March this year!
I make it barely through the day on one charge with 1h of screen on time max!
As you can see in the attached screenshots today it's down to below 30% at 3 o'clock in the afternoon after disconnecting it from the charger this morning at 8 o'clock and I haven't used it much since... 15 minutes of listening to music, occational web searches and e-mail reading. I'm on the latest official Marshmallow (32.2.A.0.253), no root, no bl unlock, all stock!
what shall I do?
sorry for venting a bit...
cheers
Lyndon
The latest is .305, upgrade, debloat, post results.
Im having similar issues, same version. Checking for updates tells me that my phone is at the latest version
With latest soft . 305 the battery is better than before.
Same here, this phone is melting the battery like butter under the sun.
Impossible to determine which processus is faulty but it wasn't the case some weeks ago.
Update your phone to .305 (flash it completely)
works on my machine
So I factory reset over the weekend, and did not turn device encryption back on (I had it on previously)... and I've noticed hugely improved performance and battery life, and drastically cooler temperatures. On one hand, it could be that the factory reset cleared something that was causing issues; but on the other, device encryption, by definition, requires more CPU cycles, which will heat up a device and cause battery drain and slower performance.
I know that it sucks having to make the trade-off (if device encryption was a contributing factor), but if you have encryption turned on and have problems with the phone getting really hot, performing poorly, or draining battery, consider turning it off.
Perhaps it would be less of an issue with a different processor, but Sony did stick us with the 810, so... lol
Where in the menu is this encryption?
Yep, hard reset cured my z5c too. Something kept it awake and I couldn't find what. It was over 30 proc. battery drain over night, now it's 3 and 3-5 hours screen on time.
propov said:
Where in the menu is this encryption?
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It's not turned on by default, so if you didn't turn it on, it's probably not on.
It's under the Security settings. There are buttons to "Encrypt Phone" and "Encrypt SD Card."
Ever since i upgraded to 32.2.a.0.305 which was a mandatory update; my battery drained a lot faster similar to TS. So I have to factory reformat again? I've done this 3x already since I got my phone back in February. I'm so frustrated right now with Android; I don't even know who to blame; google or sony.
My phone was ok before the october updates; the low power mode would kick in and i could see the power graph go more horizontal as time has passed. Now it is a direct slump down from 6pm (full) to 6am (15%) and I was asleep during this time.
reformat? that will take considerable amount of time. I'm a working professional and I have a family with responsibilities. iOS is looking more and more enticing as the days go by as I use this phone.
I was happy that the z5c has a larger battery and can charge 50% faster (with qc 2.0) but it happens to also drains 2x faster.
Even if android is a superior OS than iOS (IMO); it is so very unreliable and unpredictable. I just want to feel relaxed (peace of mind) that my phone will be available when I need it the most. Now every time I go out I have to think about not forgetting to bring a powerbank; so much for a compact android phone. my powerbank + z5c is bigger than the iphone plus.
I've solved the problem, I'm back on Lollipop 5.1.1 with the 32.0.A.4.11-R3B FW.
The difference is really huge whether in terms of battery, reactivity and useful features. Today the phone have used 15% of battery where it would have usually used 45% in the same time on MM.
I'm like Chadie, I don't know who is to blame, Sony or Google, but this MM fw on the Z5C is a shame.
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reformat? that will take considerable amount of time. I'm a working professional and I have a family with responsibilities. iOS is looking more and more enticing as the days go by as I use this phone.
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Even if android is a superior OS than iOS (IMO); it is so very unreliable and unpredictable. I just want to feel relaxed (peace of mind) that my phone will be available when I need it the most. Now every time I go out I have to think about not forgetting to bring a powerbank; so much for a compact android phone. my powerbank + z5c is bigger than the iphone plus.
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If you think iOS doesn't have problems, you're in for a surprise. lol
Yes, it sucks having to factory reset, but I'm a working professional, too, and I found the time to do it on a Sunday morning. It's worth it. Google can restore most of your settings and apps, you'll just have to manually reconnect Bluetooth devices and set up your home screen again.
I was really shocked with the battery life coming from 4.4.2 on my z1c HEAVILY modded/tweaked was getting 2 day battery life and upto 9hrs screen on time (NINE HOURS!).
But yeah I now got the z5c (r.i.p z1c best phone ever) for 60 quid brand new because my mate didn't want it anymore got iPhone instead lol but since I updated to .305 over the past few days the battery has REALLY improved like it's magically calibrated itself or something and I'm getting comfy 1.5days out of it, I don't know how much screen on time as MM doesn't show you anymore but hey I've noticed a massive improvement.
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I don't know how much screen on time as MM doesn't show you anymore but hey I've noticed a massive improvement.
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Download GSam Battery Monitor if you want that functionality back. It'll tell you screen time, as well as all sorts of other usage metrics that impact battery life.
Mathman85 said:
Yes, it sucks having to factory reset, but I'm a working professional, too, and I found the time to do it on a Sunday morning. It's worth it. Google can restore most of your settings and apps, you'll just have to manually reconnect Bluetooth devices and set up your home screen again.
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I can confirm that factory reset is unfortunately the best solution.
For my work, i had to update a dozen of Xperia M4 aqua, which is famous for poor memory available ( 8gb version).
So i compared reseted and not reseted available memory after update and can tell you there is a big difference.
That's why i now make my best to convince users to factory reset after update.
An updated system will never be as efficient as a clean installed one.
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If you think iOS doesn't have problems, you're in for a surprise. lol
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I know about them; i have both phones but android is my primary one. Better those than having an unreliable charge on my phone.
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I know about them; i have both phones but android is my primary one. Better those than having an unreliable charge on my phone.
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https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7676533?start=0&tstart=0
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2016/10/how-to-fix-iphone-7-battery-life-problems.html
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Just following up... after the reset, the battery life, especially at idle, has been rocking. Here's last night while I was sleeping (note that I do not charge my phones overnight, since it's bad to charge a Li-Ion battery to 100% and I wouldn't be awake to disconnect it before that happened):
This is on build 32.2.A.0.305, and the phone is not rooted (it is completely stock firmware).
Compared to z3c this phone is an epic fail.
I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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For charging you need a 2 or 2,5 A charger. Then it will charge (if it's not faulty) in around 2 hours. The screen overlay message is coming from the quick launcher (or how it is called). So disable it or give it the right to draw over other apps.
I don't have problems with lags or touches. Are you on the latest updates?
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I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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Its got a crappy Nvidia CPU in it, thats the issue. Like my N9, that too is crap, again, Nvidia inside.
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For charging you need a 2 or 2,5 A charger. Then it will charge (if it's not faulty) in around 2 hours. The screen overlay message is coming from the quick launcher (or how it is called). So disable it or give it the right to draw over other apps.
I don't have problems with lags or touches. Are you on the latest updates?
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I am using the correct rated charger. This even happened when charging with the tablet off.
I am on the latest update. I waited to install my apps until after all updates were applied. The touch issues may be lag related. The back button almost always requires multiple touches. Keyboards often time register multiple touches or just freezes.
I am also noticing network issues. Apps report loss of connection when the wifi shows connected.
I hate to say it, but I am leaning towards returning this for a Samsung.
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I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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Also a recent owner of the k1. Running stock firmware (1.5) but with BitO-K kernel. The only thing I am experiencing is mediocre battery life, charges from 50-100% in under an hour using a 2.5A charger. The only thing that sucks, and this goes for android tablets in general, is the removal from 4.4 of the TabletUI. Seeing we're already at 7.1 and TabletUI is still dead, it looks like we'll have to fight to get it back again.
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I am using the correct rated charger. This even happened when charging with the tablet off.
I am on the latest update. I waited to install my apps until after all updates were applied. The touch issues may be lag related. The back button almost always requires multiple touches. Keyboards often time register multiple touches or just freezes.
I am also noticing network issues. Apps report loss of connection when the wifi shows connected.
I hate to say it, but I am leaning towards returning this for a Samsung.
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That lag is not normal. And my tablet charges from around 10% to full in about 2 hours. Maybe you should try a factory reset. If that doesn't help I would return it.
I won't buy a Samsung tablet. I would try a replacement. I own the k1 for a year now and I'm still very satisfied with. And Nvidia updates it. Which Samsung usually doesn't.
Don't listen to Nvidia trolls... ⬆
Your experience does not sound typical. Perhaps it's a hardware issue, but I agree with @edisso10018 that the first step would be a factory reset.
Wish you luck!
The Nvidia CPU is pretty good shame it's not the X1, It performs better then some of my phones with QC chips, Do a factory reset and see if the lag is still there, Battery life is poor can agree on that
My k1 is over a year old it is still playing games with no trouble yes a agree with the battery life but mine charges with no problems a have noticed a little slow down but am not running bit os updated kernel yet but a still rate 10/10 best tablet a ever owned.
Tablet is laggy, no denying it.
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Also a recent owner of the k1. Running stock firmware (1.5) but with BitO-K kernel. The only thing I am experiencing is mediocre battery life, charges from 50-100% in under an hour using a 2.5A charger. The only thing that sucks, and this goes for android tablets in general, is the removal from 4.4 of the TabletUI. Seeing we're already at 7.1 and TabletUI is still dead, it looks like we'll have to fight to get it back again.
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K1 here-- I don't run stock (DU 6.0.1), but I used BitOK for a while and realized its not very good. Switched back to stock kernel (from my ROM) and its more stable. You don't lose out on much anyway-- BitOK doesn't have features I want like voltage control. Examples of instability caued by BitOK: GPU was stuck at ~350mhz, would not ramp down fully to 72mhz. Also stock is smoother. You can still use adiutor to monitor and control a few things.
One more thing: be very careful when flashing blobs and other stuff in fastboot that it is for the K1 version and not OG shield! A lot of devs posting these things arent explicit as to which version. DTBs and Blobs are specific to the shield type-- one might work for the wrong tablet version, or it might brick it, or it might be unstable.
As for the Batery life I can tell you it does suck even on the best case scenario. There is no way around this as it is small and the large screen, as nice as it is, sucks a lot of juice. Lowering brightness helps somewhat but still I'll be lucky to get a couple hours of SOT out of it.
For the price its a great tablet, with a few small compromises, such as bat life, but thats the price you pay for great screen and sound at a cheap price. We are lucky to have at least a few devs still doing work with this device, and luckier still that nvidia is STILL supporting it with updates, even if slowly. They recently announced 7.1.1 will be forthcoming.
Mine was laggy too, I flashed stock firmware with my PC and now it's working perfectly.
Bought mine as a refurb and it works fine. I think you either have bad hardware, or a bad install. Try flashing stock and see if it improves.
Tbh my only complaint is with battery life, I switched to BitO to see if it got any better, the tablet is smoother with this kernel than stock but the battery is the same, I wish we had UV'ing, my favorite setting on any kernel, back on my N10 my battery could easily be improved 10-15% and the heat was reduced drastically, good binned ones could shave up to 200mV on some steps. K wish this was implemented
PearlMikeJam said:
I jumped in and bought a K1 to replace my dying GPad GPE. After 3 days, this seems like a huge mistake.
The K1 is very laggy in basic apps like Play Store and Chrome, does not register touches very well and has terrible battery life. I even charged it overnight and didn't get a full charge. On top of that, I am constantly getting the screen overlay message any time I need to enable a permission.
What could be causing this? This tablet is so highly regarded I don't get it.
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I just bought a K1 (discount price 169€) and I don't have this problem at all. Even if I use only 1 core (settings performance) for basic app it's smooth smooth smooth.
And the battery life is huge !!
For gaming tho I switch back ofc the performance setting.
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I bought a K1 three weeks ago to use as a display for my phantom 4 quadcopter. I am very impressed with its performance. I'm not experiencing any lag other than at startup. Once it's up and startup is finalized I dont have any problems. The battery life isn't great, I'll agree there but hopefully it gets better with Nougat.
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I bought a K1 last week to replace my aging Nexus 7, did a factory reset and still wasn't satisfied with it being laggy. Did my share of Google searching and finally stumbled upon a quick fix to try : disable Daydream. Since changing this one setting it has been very smooth since, no issue for lag or touch registrations.
Give it a try, might not help your charging but I did notice a much reduced battery drain while sleeping also.
My only other changes were to root, change the DPI to 240 and use the Google Now Launcher which compliments the display nicely.
I wasn't happy with it as well until I flashed cyanogenmod 13 and a custom kernel with overclock. Now it's a beast, battery is great, signal as well. And I also now have the option to OC the processor to 2.5 GHz before I play some more demanding games and then set it back to 2.2 or even lower if I won't need all the juice. Seriously, the stock marshmallow ROM sucks, I have only heard bad stuff about it. Also, the nougat update is about to come out so I'd give android N a chance, too.
About the battery life -- see which apps are using the most juice under settings/battery/. Some of them may be using more CPU cores, and have a higher frame rate than is needed. Go to settings/App optimisation/ and crank the numbers down. Next go to settings/Accounts and see the long list of things that want to autosync with you. Turn the autosync off for those you aren't using. Turning off wifi except when I am using it has made a significant difference for me as well.
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About the battery life -- see which apps are using the most juice under settings/battery/. Some of them may be using more CPU cores, and have a higher frame rate than is needed. Go to settings/App optimisation/ and crank the numbers down. Next go to settings/Accounts and see the long list of things that want to autosync with you. Turn the autosync off for those you aren't using. Turning off wifi except when I am using it has made a significant difference for me as well.
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Putting the CPU at 80 or 90% CPU speed in the performance settings will get you that reduced power consumption. You might not even notice the speed difference. These speed tiers also run at lower voltage.
Using the GPU frame rate limiter will dramatically extend gaming time too. I find 30 fps acceptable most of the time.
Of course it would be nice to run the thing unrestricted, but it's just not practical when you also want battery life. Look at what Nintendo is doing with the clock speeds of the X1 in the Switch.