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[Q] Media Hub V. ?????

Ok. So the media hub is out. Looks like you can rent and/or own movies depending on title. The renting is 2.99. I've found own for 9.99 and 12.99. I'm a little worried about paying DVD prices (or somewhat less for some titles) and not getting the DVD, or getting the ability to transfer to another viewing device, ie. dvd, computer. Anyone know what the lowdown is on transfers, etc? I know I've had a hard time trying to find a movie that I can actually put on this phone via dvd ripping from my own dvd library (if that's even legal) or for download from any legal source online. At least the media hub has that going for it.
Anyone know if there are other avenues to actually use the awesome power of this device to watch movies in my palm? Is Media Hub better than?
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.

it still says coming soon for me :/
*edit* oh nevermind i see, its a system update to get it. XD
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javahead76 said:
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
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I thought it was funny....

Anyone guess what my favorite part of Forrest Gump is?
hint: look at my avatar

When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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ggoldfingerd said:
When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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Nope, just Vibrant as far as I can tell.

Does it bill to your Sprint bill or is there separate payment information?

probably have to stop by the store so they can take a melon baller to your seat cushion.

I'm not really sure how the payment works. I exchanged my phone today due to the back button issue. Now I haven't received the new update yet.

Media hub payments
Ok. So I broke down and bought the latest star trek. Basically, you enter your credit card information into Media Hub the app stores it there (actually, I think it stores it on Samsung's server). I don't think there are any alternatives. Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.

I LOL'ed
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javahead76 said:
Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
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3G? 4G? Wifi? On 4G, the previews always played for me instantly. Even the 2 and a half minute trailers.

I watched a few previews over 4g. I have to admit the video quality was excellent and playback smooth. This might be good for an occasional rental, but once netflix comes out for Android they can kiss this goodbye.
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download speed and AllShare
Well it looks like there is no AllShare support. Can't push this thing to my TV (actually PS3) for viewing. The movie doesn't show up in the AllShare list. I'm not surprised I guess, just disappointed. My guess is that the movie is not being stored in any meaningful format so AllShare couldn't read it if it wanted to. Of course, there could be a way around or some setting I'm missing. I don't think it's a setting at this point though. Media Hub has no settings anywhere that I can find.
The video quality is pretty awesome, no skips, studders, sloops, woops, or whillips. The sounds wasn't *bad*. It's a decent movie viewing experience - even for a big screen action blockbuster. Would be awesome during a long flight, or similar, without having to drag along extra electronics.
However, combined with there currently being no mini-usb to hdmi cable means no support to watch Media Hub movies on a bigger screen. Looks like I'm back to looking for another solution to watching movies on my phone. 12 bucks isn't really a good investment vs. the actual DVD/Blueray (3 dollars more on Amazon). If I was wealthier, maybe. I think this means I won't be using Media Hub, except for the one movie I already paid for.
About the download speed:
I didn't bother trying to watch it before the download was finished so I don't know if that is possible. I think it was a 1-2 hour download but I didn't keep track, maybe I could have started it sooner. Not to bad I guess (over wifi). I couldn't imagine doing this over 3g...definitely an overnight thing.

Movies on Xoom

Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!

I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.

Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.

Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player

JOHNGAETANO said:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.

It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.

droidtacular said:
It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.

Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant

dvdcatalyst said:
Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.

#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.

Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.

monkeefied said:
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.

Netflix

It seems the apk for Netflix has been leaked can't seem to get it to work fully but maybe someone else can.
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I was able to install and launch. I can search movies and manage my queue, but I get an error if I try to stream. Looks more like Netflix is blocking it than a system error.
It would be great to get Netflix streaming.

Netflix DRM on Android
Netflix not streaming seems to be a DRM issue. More info in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995126

cbotd said:
Netflix not streaming seems to be a DRM issue. More info in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995126
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Amazon Prime bought Netflix of Europe,try their 30 day free movies on their instant video page,3000 movies so far, Free!
I use it on my A7,its great.After free trial its only $79.95 yr.
That s cheaper than Netflix USA and Blockbuster.

Thanks! I am a prime member but didn't know vids could be played on my elocity.
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Netflix - Amazon Prime?
I am also a Prime member and can stream videos just fine to my Mac or my lil netbook, but when I try on the A7 tab, it returns a message that Amazon does not have this set up yet for mobile devices. I've even tried signing in through various browsers to the full Amazon site, but each time it seems to recognize my device and says it's not supported.
If you are running something that allows you to stream videos, please do tell!

there are some alternatives to playing hulu / netflix on your mobile...
PlayOn makes it possible to stream from your pc to mobile/tablet.
TVersity makes it possible to stream from hulu.com (no netflix i think)
on your tablet, use something like Skifta to play the DLNA stream, it works.. i tried it with Tversity / hulu.com .. not perfect, but it works..
maybe someone got a better dlna based and cheaper solution?

Netflix app released on market work with several devices wonder how we can make the a7 look like the evo 4g.

rombold said:
Netflix app released on market work with several devices wonder how we can make the a7 look like the evo 4g.
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if it rely on "DRM" , A7 does not even support it at all..
my port "Blur" do support it, but not sure if its 100% implemented correctly from my side with directories and apps running.
A7 stock firmware has not support at all for DRM media.

cwolfpack3 said:
I am also a Prime member and can stream videos just fine to my Mac or my lil netbook, but when I try on the A7 tab, it returns a message that Amazon does not have this set up yet for mobile devices. I've even tried signing in through various browsers to the full Amazon site, but each time it seems to recognize my device and says it's not supported.
If you are running something that allows you to stream videos, please do tell!
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I'm confused. I'm able to run Amazon Prime video no problem on mine. I don't remember if there was a app on amazon or what (my fuzzy brain seems to be telling me that there was a download prompted by Amazon the first time I went to the video section).

Solution to 'no movie rentals for root users' problem

I was just thinking about the whole movie rental thing not being available to root users because they are lumping us all in with thieves. How's this for a solution?
Instead of making it where we can't rent movies, can't they just make it where we aren't able to download them to the device (in other words, no pinning.) and only make them streamable? I would be happy with that. I mean, it would suck for flights and stuff where you don't have a connection, but It'd be better than the solution that they've currently got going.
Thoughts?

screw that they get no money
the movie industry can continue to screw themselves over

Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"

Expecting the media copyright holders to be reasonable might be a bit naive
Google has to go along with whatever crazy **** they demand to license their content.

I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...

Botero said:
I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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My sentiment exactly!

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Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
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Amen, brother.

Has anyone tried Amazon's video service? Not sure if it works on the Xoom / if it uses a special player.
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On another thread someone said that rooted Xooms could rent Google movies, just rent them through the web-based market. I haven't tried it yet.

web market works
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...

Just purchase mega viewer pro... problem solved lol
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bored369 said:
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
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Does it allowed to be downloaded/pinned? I'd like to find a solution for watching offline as I travel often.

All this is going to do is make people want to pirate movies. If it isn't easy to just purchase the movie than people are just going to go through other routes to get it on their device.
They are targeting root users, root users are the ones that know how to get stuff on the device without having to go through the market. In my opinion they will for sure lose more money by doing this.

Watching movies offline?

Hi guys! i'm new to this forums, and almost complete noob with everything which has mobile usage, mobile - smart phones, tablets...more of a desktop guy.
Recently i discovered the N7 and i heard, you can watch movies in clood, even without internet connection, that sound impossible to me but anyway, i decided to ask is that possible and how do you guys do it? do i need to have the movies on my pc? how do you get connected with the N7 to your pc if your lets say out? i'm really confused and i need some help, thanks.

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Hi guys! i'm new to this forums, and almost complete noob with everything which has mobile usage, mobile - smart phones, tablets...more of a desktop guy.
Recently i discovered the N7 and i heard, you can watch movies in clood, even without internet connection, that sound impossible to me but anyway, i decided to ask is that possible and how do you guys do it? do i need to have the movies on my pc? how do you get connected with the N7 to your pc if your lets say out? i'm really confused and i need some help, thanks.
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Where are you getting the movies from?
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Well, cant you upload your own movies to google drive and later watch them?

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Well, cant you upload your own movies to google drive and later watch them?
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You could, but you would still have to put the file on the device offline to watch it offline.
BSPlayer is one of many great media players that can open just about any file format. It can also stream on your home wi-fi from desktop machines on the same network. If you have downloaded AVI or MKV movies you can transfer them by USB cable for offline viewing later, much faster than wireless.
If you purchase or rent from Google Play Movies, you can pin the movie for later offline viewing and it will download the whole thing. However services like Netflix do not offer offline caching.

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You could, but you would still have to put the file on the device offline to watch it offline.
BSPlayer is one of many great media players that can open just about any file format. It can also stream on your home wi-fi from desktop machines on the same network. If you have downloaded AVI or MKV movies you can transfer them by USB cable for offline viewing later, much faster than wireless.
If you purchase or rent from Google Play Movies, you can pin the movie for later offline viewing and it will download the whole thing. However services like Netflix do not offer offline caching.
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Eh, the point is to keep storage free (on your Nexus 7) and to not be forced to get 3/4G version of Nexus 7, as far i can see there will be no 4G version on launch, (i would get one otherwise) which is very bad for me, don't know why they do this delayed launch of 4G version.....if you got any info on the 4G version, please share it, thanks for your help :good:

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Eh, the point is to keep storage free (on your Nexus 7) and to not be forced to get 3/4G version of Nexus 7, as far i can see there will be no 4G version on launch, (i would get one otherwise) which is very bad for me, don't know why they do this delayed launch of 4G version.....if you got any info on the 4G version, please share it, thanks for your help :good:
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But which do you want? To save storage or to avoid data usage? You can't watch movies offline without using device storage.
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But which do you want? To save storage or to avoid data usage? You can't watch movies offline without using device storage.
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Yea, i understand now, thanks. I wanted to save storage.