I have looked everywhere and can't find out. Some say it isn't locked, some say it is. Is it unlocked so you can not rom? If so, I will get the Xoom.
Its not locked its encrypted. There are ways around it to install custom roms
Read threads in the developers threads.
Thanks for the reply. So whats the big deal about it being locked?
Its a so called way to protect the rights of digital media and software developers.by having the device locked it suposed to limit hacking ability.but there is always a way around it.
They should leave our devices to us.
Thanks for the answer. I will get the Xoom. It is better (performance). It can also unlocked and relocked.
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Thanks for the answer. I will get the Xoom. It is better (performance). It can also unlocked and relocked.
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lol same hardware, same performance. Mine is unlocked, and unless you accept the latest update to 3.2, you're good to go, and even then you can downgrade, root, then manually update to a pre-rooted 3.2 ROM.
ER, you just lost one to a Xoom lol
So does this mean if I were to create a custom kernel I couldn't?
I really like the Iconia. It has a USB port and good screen. I also like the Xoom. If the Acer can't be hacked I will get the Xoom as it is also a very good tablet imo .
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So does this mean if I were to create a custom kernel I couldn't?
I really like the Iconia. It has a USB port and good screen. I also like the Xoom. If the Acer can't be hacked I will get the Xoom as it is also a very good tablet imo .
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The Acer is already "hacked". Go to the DEV section of the A500 forums. You'll find plenty to read
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The Acer is already "hacked". Go to the DEV section of the A500 forums. You'll find plenty to read
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There are custom roms but I don't think they have custom android kernels as the bootloader is still encrypt.
I will go for the Acer. I am sure in 12 months for now they will unlock it because something new will come out (tegra 3). I won't be unlocking it until my warranty expires in 2012.
Acer seems to have better screen etc.
Cheers again for all the help so far.
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There are custom roms but I don't think they have custom android kernels as the bootloader is still encrypt.
I will go for the Acer. I am sure in 12 months for now they will unlock it because something new will come out (tegra 3). I won't be unlocking it until my warranty expires in 2012.
Acer seems to have better screen etc.
Cheers again for all the help so far.
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You evidentally didn't read far enough. There are more custom kernels than I could shake my D#$& at. Lol
kjy2010 said:
You evidentally didn't read far enough. There are more custom kernels than I could shake my D#$& at. Lol
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Lol. That was the deciding factor. Off to buy an Iconia . I thought an encrypted bootloader couldn't allow custom kernels. Sorry, i'm good at I.T but kind of new to this stuff. First tablet.
tweaker101 said:
Lol. That was the deciding factor. Off to buy an Iconia . I thought an encrypted bootloader couldn't allow custom kernels. Sorry, i'm good at I.T but kind of new to this stuff. First tablet.
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NP. We aren't allowed to link to this site, but Google tegraowners dot com.
More custom kernels than you could shake your d#$% at there as well, and he keeps his updates coming fairly regularly.
V. Good site. So Why are people moaning about the bootloader if you can install a custom kernel/os.
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V. Good site. So Why are people moaning about the bootloader if you can install a custom kernel/os.
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3.2 bootloader is locked, so ppl are cooking pre-rooted 3.2 roms and custom kernels.
If you OTA from 3.1 to 3.2 you'll lose root, and have to downgrade which is a pita!
There are a few stock pre-rooted 3.2 ROMS in the DEV section, along with at least a couple custom kernels that will work with stock 3.2 ROM.
The people that are moaning are the id10ts that took the OTA, and haven't a clue how to downgrade to get their root back, and start over the correct way.
I prefer the Xoom. Less weight, even more hackable and better performance.
Acer Iconia 0
Motorola 1
Still undecided
I still don't understand. Could I install any kernel onto this tablet?
edit: I guess it has to be based on Acer's?
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Still undecided
I still don't understand. Could I install any kernel onto this tablet?
edit: I guess it has to be based on Acer's?
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Did you not go to the site I posted? Have you not read the DEV forum here?
Get an IPad, then you won't have to worry about kernels.
Sorry for being like that, but there's soooooo much information about custom kernels on these forums for our A500, that I'm beginning to wonder if you can read (not trying to be a smartazz, just stating the obvious).
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Did you not go to the site I posted? Have you not read the DEV forum here?
Get an IPad, then you won't have to worry about kernels.
Sorry for being like that, but there's soooooo much information about custom kernels on these forums for our A500, that I'm beginning to wonder if you can read (not trying to be a smartazz, just stating the obvious).
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I'm sorry. I will read more. Just being lazy
Been reading some roms. They appear to be based on Acer's Kernel.
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Been reading some roms. They appear to be based on Acer's Kernel.
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If you want spoon feeding, you can ask at Disney.com forums.
Your questions have been answered in full.
One more time since it appears as though you didn't get it the first few times.
Yes there are custom kernels for the A500, both here in the DEV section of the forums, as well as elsewhere on other sites.
If you still don't get it, then I implore you to take the advice of the other person and buy a Xoom, or better yet an IPad so you can brick one of those and then start a thread "Help....bricked Xoom".
How many times do you need your question answered?!?
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Hello and welcoming myself to this new community of SGS 2 users. Coming from the HTC Desire section, I am quite confounded (entirely my own fault, of course) by the sheer confusion between the "Original Development" and the, uh, "Derivative Development" sections. More on that later, but...
Now what's REALLY confusing me is the complete lack of a start to finish rooting guide, or even a CWM guide for the SGS2 in the forum. Does anyone around have good link, and also where should I go to for my first ROM? Any ideas?
Go for the big well-known roms to start. VillainROM, Cognition or Lightning Rom. They all have tutorials to flash the specific roms when coming from stock.
I came from the Desire too, the weird thing about the SGS2 is that you flash roms that have the root installed in there. So you flash a rom with a rooted kernel inside of it, your phone is rooted. Change the kernel only to a stock one, root is gone.
So check the rom threads.
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Go for the big well-known roms to start. VillainROM, Cognition or Lightning Rom. They all have tutorials to flash the specific roms when coming from stock.
I came from the Desire too, the weird thing about the SGS2 is that you flash roms that have the root installed in there. So you flash a rom with a rooted kernel inside of it, your phone is rooted. Change the kernel only to a stock one, root is gone.
So check the rom threads.
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Ah... so... er... how do I get CWM inside? I saw the VillainROM thread and it says I need CWM inside before I can begin...
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Ah... so... er... how do I get CWM inside? I saw the VillainROM thread and it says I need CWM inside before I can begin...
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start by flashing cf-root kernel via ODIN. instructions are in chainfire's cf-root thread.
Nitrile said:
start by flashing cf-root kernel via ODIN. instructions are in chainfire's cf-root thread.
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Alright. Thanks for that.
i guess this might help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
also here is a good collection of shipped roms and another rooting guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
i used the latter to root my phone yesterday, a first for me, since this is my first android phone, and it worked at once and it took less than 10 minutes till i was up and running again.
Why don’t we all take a breather and don't mistreat the newbie..I mean the new user.
Don't make me get on my high horse....it won't be pretty
Cheers,
As MTM said, take a couple of breaths and learn how to be nice to your fellow forum members. Next person to be disrespectful will earn a temporary ban. You have been warned.
It took me a while to get up to speed with the way things are here too.
The usual steps would be:
- download a stock rom
- flash cf-root
- choose your custom rom
From here onwards, its an ocean of info.
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It took me a while to get up to speed with the way things are here too.
The usual steps would be:
- download a stock rom
- flash cf-root
- choose your custom rom
From here onwards, its an ocean of info.
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Yeah... getting up to speed here is a little difficult. I came from the HTC Desire, so I was pampered, of sorts, by the fullness of guides there.
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As MTM said, take a couple of breaths and learn how to be nice to your fellow forum members. Next person to be disrespectful will earn a temporary ban. You have been warned.
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Did the disrespectful posts vanish or did I just not get it ?
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Did the disrespectful posts vanish or did I just not get it ?
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It disappeared.
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Yeah... getting up to speed here is a little difficult. I came from the HTC Desire, so I was pampered, of sorts, by the fullness of guides there.
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There are no pretty guides because , its so extremely easy to root SGS2 , all you do is flash "cf kernel with CWM" via ODIN = done you rooted
Then you have CWM recovery and you can flash any SGS2 ROM. No need for any hacks or exploits.
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There are no pretty guides because , its so extremely easy to root SGS2 , all you do is flash "cf kernel with CWM" via ODIN = done you rooted
Then you have CWM recovery and you can flash any SGS2 ROM. No need for any hacks or exploits.
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I was confounded by the mere mention of ODIN. Apparently, everybody knew where to download/get it and how to use it but nobody provided a link. I sorted that out anyway.
I had to appreciate the relative openness of Samsung vs. HTC at this point
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Hello and welcoming myself to this new community of SGS 2 users. Coming from the HTC Desire section, I am quite confounded (entirely my own fault, of course) by the sheer confusion between the "Original Development" and the, uh, "Derivative Development" sections. More on that later, but...
Now what's REALLY confusing me is the complete lack of a start to finish rooting guide, or even a CWM guide for the SGS2 in the forum. Does anyone around have good link, and also where should I go to for my first ROM? Any ideas?
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Welcome to the sgsii forums! I hope more and more people jump on the international bandwagon. I came from the samsung captivate forums so this wasn't that big of a difference. I think over time this forum will get better and more organized, as it's still relatively new.
Sent from my GT-I9100
Haha, thanks! Been missing the warmth of the Desire section
Here's the reply an Acer representative posted on Acer ANZ Facebook page:
"the A501 update has two more security patch integrated hence the slight delay on the update. The date is very likely to be tomorrow, that the first batch of users are going to receive FOTA update notification. Australia & New Zealand are amongst the first countries with the updates made available. Appreciate your understanding and hopefully the update will be with you shortly.".
This was posted around 3.30 PM of the 09/19 (UTC).
Just remember...
DON'T RUSH TO APPLY IT OR YOU'LL LOSE ROOT!
Wait for the devs to modify the OTA and take out the new bootloader and recovery...
This is like the millionth time I've read that 3.2 is unrootable... LoL Repetita iuvant
chiasottis said:
This is like the millionth time I've read that 3.2 is unrootable... LoL Repetita iuvant
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Considering how many idiots have flashed it and then come in here crying about it, it bares repeating.
So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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Very good question. I updated fully knowing I would loose root, however I have full confidence that the devs will work it out.
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mac4402 said:
So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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The ones that are crying about it, obviously.
After searching on this forum and others, I updated to 3.2, at the time I could not find anything stating that you couldn't root it, but also nothing saying you could. I did however see a few posts from people doing previous upgrades saying that they managed to maintain root. At the time I realized there was a risk I wouldn't be able to root it, but it seemed likely I would. I also figured that if I couldn't root it, at least I could always flash back to 3.1 and root that.
Unfortunately I was wrong on both counts. Since that time I, and others, have made sure that anyone who asks is very aware of the risks so that others don't make the same mistake that I did.
I'm not really complaining though, I do have full confidence that 3.2 will be rooted in time, and while I enjoy having a rooted tablet, and use many applications that require it, not having root is not a deal breaker for me. and I still enjoy the tablet (though I must say the ads are drivng me nuts!)
I guess this is what I get for being an early adopter.
Looks like that was true. Downloading now on my A501...
I'm calling it "Acer Payback" for originally giving us the most easy to root device I've ever seen
Besides, anybody who roots and installs a custom recovery should know...Never take an OTA factory update, or at least be cautious about doing it.
One poster on another forum, was advised by Acer Support to do a factory reset to roll back to factory
I'm no rocket scientist, but doesn't that involve using that pinhole by the rocker?
Anybody try this yet? Results?
Not sure about what your question means... Update wouldn't install ("update not valid" error), so I did a Factory Reset: Settings -> Privacy -> Factory Reset (backup your internal SD as it'll be formatted). After that the update completed fine.
First impressions: snappier; some stuff (like keyboard) looks crispier on screen; more stable networks; new movie editor; etc.
Definitely a huge improvemente over 3.0.1.
So guys.. could anyone say what should i do to take safe OTA update while i have rooted a501 HV hc3.2 CWM? What are steps to do this not bricking our tab?
As guys said i could wait for way to root stock rom.
This is a judgement call. Basically, if you're happy being rooted, and you're running a custom rom with 3.2, I really see no need to revert back to stock, unless you have a lot of funky issues.
Personally, I wouldn't look forward to setting things up all over again, then having to wait till the devs com eup with another root, which may not be as easy as before. Not to mention I would lose ad-hoc support along with a couple of root required apps.
But if you have issues, then by all means, run the OTA.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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if you're happy being rooted, and you're running a custom rom with 3.2, I really see no need to revert back to stock
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Reality call: not everyone wants to flash a custom rom. I've been flashing roms on WinMo, then Android for years and I've come to the conclusion that, no matter what, stock is better. The only time custom may be preferable is once the device isn't anymore updated officially.
As a side note, please notice that we A501 users were still running 3.0.1 prior to this update and, as you know, that ROM was terrible. This is why I preferred updating immediately (and having, finally, a device that works well) without waiting for root and other mods, which I can live well without.
You could download the FOTA and modify it to remove the new bootloader and recovery and get it rooted, like ezterry did with the A500 version. Maybe try contacting him on exactly what to modify...
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Reality call: not everyone wants to flash a custom rom.
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No reality call needed . If you had looked at the guys post, he/she is running Honey Villain3.2, which I believe is a custom Rom. The post was wether or not there was a need to revert back to a non-rootable factory rom, without taking a chance of things going bad.
I really couldn't tell you about 3.0. It lasted about 20 minutes after I bought my 501. To say that "3.0 was a terrible Rom", and then say "Stock is better", is a contradiction in itself.
Flashing any rom, should be a personal choice, of course there are pro's and con's which each person has to decide. And they should do their homework beforehand.
So really, there is no need to get "snippy"
But then again, there are always trolls about
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No reality call needed . If you had looked at the guys post, he/she is running Honey Villain3.2, which I believe is a custom Rom. The post was wether or not there was a need to revert back to a non-rootable factory rom.
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Ops! Didn't see that post; I thought you had come here to instruct us to discard stock in favor of custom. Sorry.
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So really, there is no need to get "snippy"
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I didn't get "snippy". I'm just tired to read, every single time there's some problem, "flash a custom" as the only solution. It wasn't your case, though, sorry.
No problemo.
But as you say, flashing is not a cure for everything. But for those of us who like to tweak things, it's nice to know we have that choice.
I just wish people would read about these things, before they get themselves in trouble.
Or the best is "I rooted, now what?"
Or, "I didn't see my exact model, but I flashed one that was close".
yea thats what i meant. I had rooted my device cuz 3.0.1 was awful. Again, i have to roll back to 3.0.1 since i have instaled 3.2 ( some factory default ??) Or what? And as you gays said Id like tu be sure before i start doing anything in this subject.
miszi said:
i have to roll back to 3.0.1 since i have instaled 3.2 ( some factory default ??)
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Yes, you must go back to stock to update.
For all you guys and gals looking to root and enjoy the goodness of custom ROMs and kernels, PLEASE don't go digging up ancient rooting methods and old, obsolete kernels and other ephemera. There are more old, outdated threads floating around page one in the Development Section and people are getting themselves in trouble, or at least frustrated with dead links, etc.
If you want to root or customize, make sure the method/ROM/Kernel at least works for your Honeycomb version.
If anyone started an older thread in Development that is outdated now, could you consider putting "obsolete" in the title, like Team Tiamat did with Manta Ray and Katana?
We're going to be seeing a lot of new development soon, so maybe we can clean up the joint a little? OK, I'm done now.
Good call. I've had my Xoom since late September and it took me forever to figure out what was current here and what was not. I did figure it out though, and have my Xoom running exactly the same as in your sig.
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Good call. I've had my Xoom since late September and it took me forever to figure out what was current here and what was not. I did figure it out though, and have my Xoom running exactly the same as in your sig.
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Good going! But it would have been nice if you could have put your finger right on the latest mods and guides, without fighting your way through all the flotsam, right?
okantomi said:
Good going! But it would have been nice if you could have put your finger right on the latest mods and guides, without fighting your way through all the flotsam, right?
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Exactly... and that's why my first post to the forum was my response here. I'm usually a lurk and learn kinda guy, but your post was so apropos I had to chime in.
Yeah, def took a little while to sort thru what was current and relevant, especially after 4G modifications...
Hmm, since I picked up some of the new Adobe apps I've been thinking I should start allocating some time everyday to figure out how to root/install roms so I can OC my Xoom (I get a bit of lag here and there).
What would you guys recommend I do? Before I read this I was just about to dive into the numerous threads and poke around, but I can see myself following a possibly outdated method. Tiamat seems to be pretty popular, but with ICS coming soon, should I wait a bit to see if I can put that on my Xoom?
edit: should mention that I'm on 3.1 Wifi Xoom.
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Hmm, since I picked up some of the new Adobe apps I've been thinking I should start allocating some time everyday to figure out how to root/install roms so I can OC my Xoom (I get a bit of lag here and there).
What would you guys recommend I do? Before I read this I was just about to dive into the numerous threads and poke around, but I can see myself following a possibly outdated method. Tiamat seems to be pretty popular, but with ICS coming soon, should I wait a bit to see if I can put that on my Xoom?
edit: should mention that I'm on 3.1 Wifi Xoom.
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You have a couple options-both good ones: you can root and install ClockworkMod Recovery and. the Tiamat Moray ROM and the new Odachi kernel using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 (get Odachi kernel from Development thread), and then wait a short time for our developers to cook up some ICS ROMS/kernels. Or, remain stock unrooted so you can get the ICS update OTA. Just be aware the unlocking will result in wiping your device and flashing a new rom will require a data wipe, so make sure to back-up everything. When you root, back-ups are much easier and restoration much more comprhensive--another great reason to root your Xoom.
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You have a couple options-both good ones: you can root and install ClockworkMod Recovery and. the Tiamat Moray ROM and the new Odachi kernel using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 (get Odachi kernel from Development thread), and then wait a short time for our developers to cook up some ICS ROMS/kernels. Or, remain stock unrooted so you can get the ICS update OTA. Just be aware the unlocking will result in wiping your device and flashing a new rom will require a data wipe, so make sure to back-up everything. When you root, back-ups are much easier and restoration much more comprhensive--another great reason to root your Xoom.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never got too deep into rooting and roms; at most I've just used one of those one-click-root apps for my Captivate, but since I went 3.2 even that's unrooted now. I miss Titanium Backup.
I'm about to head to sleep so I haven't looked, but is it expected that our Xooms will get ICS? I mainly want a faster experience, but ICS looks pretty so I'd like to get that too without having to get a new device.
edit: I think I'll give that link a go tomorrow after work.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never got too deep into rooting and roms; at most I've just used one of those one-click-root apps for my Captivate, but since I went 3.2 even that's unrooted now. I miss Titanium Backup.
I'm about to head to sleep so I haven't looked, but is it expected that our Xooms will get ICS? I mainly want a faster experience, but ICS looks pretty so I'd like to get that too without having to get a new device.
edit: I think I'll give that link a go tomorrow after work.
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okantomi's guide is great. It's what I ended up using. One point to note, if you're planning to use the Moray ROM, step five isn't necessary since Moray is pre-rooted. Adding the Odachi kernel makes it run velvety smooth.
Everything I've read says that not only will the Xoom get ICS, it may be the first tablet to get it.
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okantomi's guide is great. It's what I ended up using. One point to note, if you're planning to use the Moray ROM, step five isn't necessary since Moray is pre-rooted. Adding the Odachi kernel makes it run velvety smooth.
Everything I've read says that not only will the Xoom get ICS, it may be the first tablet to get it.
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Thanks for the reminder. I'll make a note of it in the Guide. I don't want anyone to have to do any unneeded steps. It's complex as it is.
Hey,
I've looked through the forum and I'm a bit puzzled how is it with the bootloader "lock" on newly purchased models as I was thinking a bit of buying A500.
I read that the bootloader only checks for checksums when booting kernel / recovery (unless set to generate them), so you can put there custom kernel (get rid of Java Android) when you root it, which I read is not a problem even with 3.2.1 .
The thing I'm puzzled about is that I read there was a BL update and some say the BL is locked since that update and others not - so if I decide to buy A500 and there will be 3.2 with the BL update on it, is it locked and requiring signed kernel image or is it still the checksum only thing?
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Hey,
I've looked through the forum and I'm a bit puzzled how is it with the bootloader "lock" on newly purchased models as I was thinking a bit of buying A500.
I read that the bootloader only checks for checksums when booting kernel / recovery (unless set to generate them), so you can put there custom kernel (get rid of Java Android) when you root it, which I read is not a problem even with 3.2.1 .
The thing I'm puzzled about is that I read there was a BL update and some say the BL is locked since that update and others not - so if I decide to buy A500 and there will be 3.2 with the BL update on it, is it locked and requiring signed kernel image or is it still the checksum only thing?
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No problem. I'll try to put it in "laymans" terms.
Manufacturers don't want you mucking with things. It causes more tech support for them, and also a bad image reputation when stupid people screw things up.
So what they do, is change bootloaders, the part that tells the tab, that the os they are loading, is 100% Acer. If it's not, it's just going to give you a silly face.
So we, here in the Acer community, try to find a way around the bootloader. And invent ways to install a operating system other than Acer.
It's an ongoing battle it seems. We find a way around it, Acer changes the rules, so we have to find another way.
The thing is, our dev's are smarter than their devs. Even HTC gave up, and just offer bootloader unlocks. Besides, they take our innovations, and incorporate them into their newer releases.
So the point is, if you buy a 500, or a 501, XDA community will give the means to unlock it. Root, so we say. And people will help you get it running right.
Here at XDA, we have many roms, from plain rooted stock roms, to cooked roms with OC kernels.
Ah, oops, placed the question incorrectly, I know how the things work around bootloaders and have designed some workarounds. I was rather asking whether new a model of A500 can run custom kernel (don't mean modifications with modules now) or not - but summarizing what you've said: every A500 can run custom kernel, right? Thanks for answering in any case.
Currently on a new A500 with root and kernel. Manufactured in December 11. whole process took an hour. Hope this helps.
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Ah, oops, placed the question incorrectly, I know how the things work around bootloaders and have designed some workarounds. I was rather asking whether new a model of A500 can run custom kernel (don't mean modifications with modules now) or not - but summarizing what you've said: every A500 can run custom kernel, right? Thanks for answering in any case.
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IIRC, only 3.2.1 locked the bootloader, so even if your a500 comes with 3.2 you're safe.
That said, even with 3.2.1 and a locked bootloader, there is a downgrade trick that allows you to go from 3.2.1 (or 3.2, or 3.1) to 3.0 and run an app called iconiaroot and acer recovery installer. Iconiaroot is like z4root, VISIONary, gingerbreak, etc and recovery installer installs CWM recovery from within android. After doing all this you can flash any rom or kernel you want.
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Ah, oops, placed the question incorrectly, I know how the things work around bootloaders and have designed some workarounds. I was rather asking whether new a model of A500 can run custom kernel (don't mean modifications with modules now) or not - but summarizing what you've said: every A500 can run custom kernel, right? Thanks for answering in any case.
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YES if your a500 has Stock android 3.2 or above.. you will have to fallow the downgrade rom flashing.Then you can flash any rom of your choice . there are several threads on this forum explaining how to do this..
Do a search for the thread by Timmy Dean.. his method i think has been called the easiest. It flashes your tablet to a rooted 3.21 stock rom thru adb . from your windows computer..
Acer has yet to plug this hole. So i would not take ANY OTA UPDATES. Im looking for ics if ever releases to plug such holes in the boot loader and stop its magic .
Happy Flashing just please understand everything before proceeding.. there are enough help i bricked my iconia threads.. Boohoo i hate to see anyone do that to such a expensive device..
Thanks. Ordered a piece
So basically I need to store UID, first x bytes in mmcblk0 (for the mmcblk0_start) from sc2k thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129873) and I'm pretty much brick safe (should I screw both kernel & recovery).
Happy Flashing
That in theory will give you the resources to recover . BUT BY NO MEANS A Get of of trouble free pass..
do not flash nothing you don't trust and Fallow all instructions Carefully.. You sound well on your way to Making the best of your tablet...
Enjoy your time on xda Iconia forum. There are some awesome people on here. NO im not including myself in that .. Im just a bored thread reading chic. that repeats what i have read... nothing i know is my own work..
Happy Flashing..
erica_renee said:
Im just a bored thread reading chic. that repeats what i have read... nothing i know is my own work..
Happy Flashing..
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Aren't we all..... Not necessarily a chic though...
Allright, all went smooth (was 3.2 preinstalled). Thanks all.
you are very welcome..
Its simple easy with just a bit of reading up front..
To obtain root use kingo root google it. Then its simple to install twrp latest ofcourse with terminal emulator. I did mine at 330 am after trying for weeks with no luck on other methods . Worked like a charm. Remember follow Op in rom thread you wish to flash afterwards. Im just a user sharing.
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diamantericos said:
To obtain root use kingo root google it. Then its simple to install twrp latest ofcourse with terminal emulator. I did mine at 330 am after trying for weeks with no luck on other methods . Worked like a charm. Remember follow Op in rom thread you wish to flash afterwards. Im just a user sharing.
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Wow... I am actually surprised that this worked... I've tried millions of different root things, as you did, so I was a bit skeptic about this, but now? I have working root on latest OS!
Thank you very much
No problem a happy to share
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Finally! I have root. Thanks!
Now, the question is, can you flash recovery and then ROM while only having root and locked bootloader using for example Flashyfi? Or, I'm thinking about Xposed, but the thing is, I don't really think that would help that much, as everybody who has this device knows, that the internal flash is slow so much that even floppy drive would have been faster, so you need to store rom/app/data on external sd if you want to have somewhat fast device. But that obviously isn't possible with stock rom, right..?
Otherwise i guess I might just unlock because, after like year or so, the stock ROM gets very very slow and laggy and it makes me mad, as for this expensive device, I would like to use it and don't just wait all the time for things to happen.
Trust me stock is slow even with 90% free memory. I unlocked from day one. Once yoh unlock you can use the method j stated in op. Youll be happy my tab is way faster plus im oc'd
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Mich3lin said:
Now, the question is, can you flash recovery and then ROM while only having root and locked bootloader using for example Flashyfi? Or, I'm thinking about Xposed, but the thing is, I don't really think that would help that much, as everybody who has this device knows, that the internal flash is slow so much that even floppy drive would have been faster, so you need to store rom/app/data on external sd if you want to have somewhat fast device. But that obviously isn't possible with stock rom, right..?
Otherwise i guess I might just unlock because, after like year or so, the stock ROM gets very very slow and laggy and it makes me mad, as for this expensive device, I would like to use it and don't just wait all the time for things to happen.
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You will need to unlock your bootloader to install any custom ROMs, kernels, or recoveries, even if you have root. xposed is probably your best option for tweaking.
cmendonc2 said:
You will need to unlock your bootloader to install any custom ROMs, kernels, or recoveries, even if you have root. xposed is probably your best option for tweaking.
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Alright, thanks and sorry for probably noob question, I'm from the times where there weren't locked bootloaders so, I could flash whatever I wanted. Good old times. Anyway, I'm gonna unlock... can't stand this anymore.
Mich3lin said:
Alright, thanks and sorry for probably noob question, I'm from the times where there weren't locked bootloaders so, I could flash whatever I wanted. Good old times. Anyway, I'm gonna unlock... can't stand this anymore.
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Yeah, back on my Nook I could pretty much do whatever I wanted right out of the box. Asus and all these other popular manufacturers are really stupid for this reason.
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Yeah, back on my Nook I could pretty much do whatever I wanted right out of the box. Asus and all these other popular manufacturers are really stupid for this reason.
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Exactly.. I mean like... I understand that they need a way how to protect their devices from people who don't know what they're doing, which usually results in bricking devices and excpecting that manufacture will repair it for free. What I don't understand, is why they're claiming my warranty is gone. As for example, if screen or keyboard stops working it's clearly not SW issue (or most likely). The only good thing about this is that since I'm living in EU, if I get HW issue, they have to repair it even if it's unlocked, because of law. Can you rely on it? That's the question.
Anyway, now I'm running custom ROM and it's really something else.
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Yeah, back on my Nook I could pretty much do whatever I wanted right out of the box. Asus and all these other popular manufacturers are really stupid for this reason.
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Actually I wouldnt knock asus so quick since they offer you an official unlock tool from their website.
The Demon Galaxy!
diamantericos said:
Actually I wouldnt knock asus so quick since they offer you an official unlock tool from their website.
The Demon Galaxy!
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They offer a tool to undo what they should not have done.
cmendonc2 said:
They offer a tool to undo what they should not have done.
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Lol true.
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diamantericos said:
Actually I wouldnt knock asus so quick since they offer you an official unlock tool from their website.
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If you are lucky, you can get it to unlock. If not, even the support department will not help you. Seach for ASUS support sucks.
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