For all you guys and gals looking to root and enjoy the goodness of custom ROMs and kernels, PLEASE don't go digging up ancient rooting methods and old, obsolete kernels and other ephemera. There are more old, outdated threads floating around page one in the Development Section and people are getting themselves in trouble, or at least frustrated with dead links, etc.
If you want to root or customize, make sure the method/ROM/Kernel at least works for your Honeycomb version.
If anyone started an older thread in Development that is outdated now, could you consider putting "obsolete" in the title, like Team Tiamat did with Manta Ray and Katana?
We're going to be seeing a lot of new development soon, so maybe we can clean up the joint a little? OK, I'm done now.
Good call. I've had my Xoom since late September and it took me forever to figure out what was current here and what was not. I did figure it out though, and have my Xoom running exactly the same as in your sig.
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Good call. I've had my Xoom since late September and it took me forever to figure out what was current here and what was not. I did figure it out though, and have my Xoom running exactly the same as in your sig.
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Good going! But it would have been nice if you could have put your finger right on the latest mods and guides, without fighting your way through all the flotsam, right?
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Good going! But it would have been nice if you could have put your finger right on the latest mods and guides, without fighting your way through all the flotsam, right?
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Exactly... and that's why my first post to the forum was my response here. I'm usually a lurk and learn kinda guy, but your post was so apropos I had to chime in.
Yeah, def took a little while to sort thru what was current and relevant, especially after 4G modifications...
Hmm, since I picked up some of the new Adobe apps I've been thinking I should start allocating some time everyday to figure out how to root/install roms so I can OC my Xoom (I get a bit of lag here and there).
What would you guys recommend I do? Before I read this I was just about to dive into the numerous threads and poke around, but I can see myself following a possibly outdated method. Tiamat seems to be pretty popular, but with ICS coming soon, should I wait a bit to see if I can put that on my Xoom?
edit: should mention that I'm on 3.1 Wifi Xoom.
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Hmm, since I picked up some of the new Adobe apps I've been thinking I should start allocating some time everyday to figure out how to root/install roms so I can OC my Xoom (I get a bit of lag here and there).
What would you guys recommend I do? Before I read this I was just about to dive into the numerous threads and poke around, but I can see myself following a possibly outdated method. Tiamat seems to be pretty popular, but with ICS coming soon, should I wait a bit to see if I can put that on my Xoom?
edit: should mention that I'm on 3.1 Wifi Xoom.
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You have a couple options-both good ones: you can root and install ClockworkMod Recovery and. the Tiamat Moray ROM and the new Odachi kernel using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 (get Odachi kernel from Development thread), and then wait a short time for our developers to cook up some ICS ROMS/kernels. Or, remain stock unrooted so you can get the ICS update OTA. Just be aware the unlocking will result in wiping your device and flashing a new rom will require a data wipe, so make sure to back-up everything. When you root, back-ups are much easier and restoration much more comprhensive--another great reason to root your Xoom.
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You have a couple options-both good ones: you can root and install ClockworkMod Recovery and. the Tiamat Moray ROM and the new Odachi kernel using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 (get Odachi kernel from Development thread), and then wait a short time for our developers to cook up some ICS ROMS/kernels. Or, remain stock unrooted so you can get the ICS update OTA. Just be aware the unlocking will result in wiping your device and flashing a new rom will require a data wipe, so make sure to back-up everything. When you root, back-ups are much easier and restoration much more comprhensive--another great reason to root your Xoom.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never got too deep into rooting and roms; at most I've just used one of those one-click-root apps for my Captivate, but since I went 3.2 even that's unrooted now. I miss Titanium Backup.
I'm about to head to sleep so I haven't looked, but is it expected that our Xooms will get ICS? I mainly want a faster experience, but ICS looks pretty so I'd like to get that too without having to get a new device.
edit: I think I'll give that link a go tomorrow after work.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never got too deep into rooting and roms; at most I've just used one of those one-click-root apps for my Captivate, but since I went 3.2 even that's unrooted now. I miss Titanium Backup.
I'm about to head to sleep so I haven't looked, but is it expected that our Xooms will get ICS? I mainly want a faster experience, but ICS looks pretty so I'd like to get that too without having to get a new device.
edit: I think I'll give that link a go tomorrow after work.
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okantomi's guide is great. It's what I ended up using. One point to note, if you're planning to use the Moray ROM, step five isn't necessary since Moray is pre-rooted. Adding the Odachi kernel makes it run velvety smooth.
Everything I've read says that not only will the Xoom get ICS, it may be the first tablet to get it.
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okantomi's guide is great. It's what I ended up using. One point to note, if you're planning to use the Moray ROM, step five isn't necessary since Moray is pre-rooted. Adding the Odachi kernel makes it run velvety smooth.
Everything I've read says that not only will the Xoom get ICS, it may be the first tablet to get it.
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Thanks for the reminder. I'll make a note of it in the Guide. I don't want anyone to have to do any unneeded steps. It's complex as it is.
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Okay xda, here's a hypothetical situation I'm considering:
I'm running damagecontrol 2.08.1, and I know the official 2.1 is out now. However, I hear mixed reviews. I'd much rather be running the official update, but at the same time not too sure I want to lose root. It'd be good to hop off the root train to avoid pains like this, but then I'll be impatient when Froyo comes around I suppose. Anyways, I was wondering if it were at all possible to:
1.) Backup via Nandroid my system running 2.08.1 rooted.
2.) Update to the official non-rooted 2.1
3.) Test it out, and if I don't like it, restore to my 2.08.1 rooted via Nandroid, and have root access again.
Can anyone confirm whether or not this would work? Also for those that updated, what are your thoughts on Root-vs-Non?
You figure out how to run a nandroid backup without root, after running the Sprint RUU, and you will make 27 people on this forum VERY Happy.
not me, I was smart and didn't load it...or at least i didn't "take one for the team"
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Okay xda, here's a hypothetical situation I'm considering:
I'm running damagecontrol 2.08.1, and I know the official 2.1 is out now. However, I hear mixed reviews. I'd much rather be running the official update, but at the same time not too sure I want to lose root. It'd be good to hop off the root train to avoid pains like this, but then I'll be impatient when Froyo comes around I suppose. Anyways, I was wondering if it were at all possible to:
1.) Backup via Nandroid my system running 2.08.1 rooted.
2.) Update to the official non-rooted 2.1
3.) Test it out, and if I don't like it, restore to my 2.08.1 rooted via Nandroid, and have root access again.
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This will not work, If you upgrade to 2.1 using official Ruu, You will lose root, and it will wipe the custom recovery image, so no more flashing anything, no more root, until someone finds the clink in the htc armour to regain root
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I see, so that recovery menu isn't stock android recovery? Well then here's another question.
If you could get flash-rec on an unrooted phone through the ASTRO install method, could you flash a custom recovery image like 1.6.2, then do a nandroid restore from backup?
I probably sound like a mega-noob, just wanting to know why we can't do these things.
Nah, I "took one for the team" but am actually working on it. I DO have to say that the official 2.1 is DAMN fast though. Like, faster then pancacke 0.1 hehe
No but seriously, there is almost 0 lag, and the only thing that I have seen wrong is all of the apps in the app drawer
And no, the nandroid thing is NOT possible.
Hmm, thanks regaw for the answer. Is it fast enough to make waiting for a 2.1 rooted unnecessary right now? Cause damage hasn't logged in for ages, and I'm tired of all the force closes and errors I'm getting. I'm just not so sure it's worth upgrading when I may have to wait longer if I update to an unrooted. I mean, I have A2SD, DConfig, all those shenanigans that make the phone so much better. What's your take?
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Hmm, thanks regaw for the answer. Is it fast enough to make waiting for a 2.1 rooted unnecessary right now? Cause damage hasn't logged in for ages, and I'm tired of all the force closes and errors I'm getting. I'm just not so sure it's worth upgrading when I may have to wait longer if I update to an unrooted. I mean, I have A2SD, DConfig, all those shenanigans that make the phone so much better. What's your take?
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Well, If you would like to do anything other than what Sprint/HTC wants you to do, I would recommend NOT upgrading, but waiting for something to come out. I know that Damageless is really busy, but I know that trevE is working on things too. They just need to finalize some stuff to get it out. While official 2.1 is fast, it doesn't have a whole bunch of things that us on custom ROMs take for granted. This is my first time on an official ROM since January, and, I do not want to keep it on for long, 1) just so I can begin developing again... and 2) so I can figure out the method of getting root back for everyone who ran the RUU.
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Well, If you would like to do anything other than what Sprint/HTC wants you to do, I would recommend NOT upgrading, but waiting for something to come out. I know that Damageless is really busy, but I know that trevE is working on things too. They just need to finalize some stuff to get it out. While official 2.1 is fast, it doesn't have a whole bunch of things that us on custom ROMs take for granted. This is my first time on an official ROM since January, and, I do not want to keep it on for long, 1) just so I can begin developing again... and 2) so I can figure out the method of getting root back for everyone who ran the RUU.
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Damn it Regaw I just realzied that you have more posts than me.
Any how, good luck on finding that root.
Here is this from Millworm, But it hink Eris devs proved it was fixed long ago.
http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/9545
This one is also older, but not sure if anyone has tried it.
http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/8678
Edit - Milw0rm must be dead.
and this, but it looks like only 2.6.30 Kernel maybe, and its just a Null Pointer exploit which is probably not suitable.
http://lwn.net/Articles/341773/
Also:
Possible way to change an MD5:
http://www.rapidleech.com/topic/2860-change-md5-hash/
Just some stuff I have looked at doing, but I am not willing to jump ship on a rooted phone.
you know I have been back and forth on whether or not to go with the official release and lose root, but during that process I loaded up Pure Hero rom which is based off the alysious (sp?) Rom but with Sense removed and man is it fast.
I have no need to lose root and this little phone is very speedy. And yes, I have tried Damage and Fresh (and a few variation based on those two) roms. Although they are decent roms, they just and turtles when compared to Pure Hero.
As far as Sense goes, I did like Sense, if you want it then do the alysious (again sp?) rom. Just that I think removing sense speeds it up, and honestly you can get all those functions through apps.
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Rooting isn't hard at all. You should go ahead & root now
+1 on the root now. While your at it install a custom rom and you will love your phone. Odds are you can get the Froyo update right here before it hits OTA anyways.
Yeah I've rooted my vibrant before I had to get a new one. It is easy but I would probably have to un root it to update right?
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I don't understand what waiting would do. What you should NOT do is get the Froyo update from T-Mobile, as there is a chance that they will push an update that breaks your ability to root with 2.2 and you will have to wait even longer.
I recommended you root now, install Rom Manager, go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813001
Download Fusion 1.1 to your SDCARD (I have a folder called ROMS) and go to Clockwork, reboot into Recovery, Reinstall Packages, Install ZIP from SDCARD, choose Bionix 1.1, wait, and then see what that phone is really capable of.
Using Fusion 1.1 makes me not mind waiting for Froyo.
Yeah you are right it's just I haven't got to comfortable w/ flashing roms just yet. Looks a bit hard I guess I will just keep watching the videos on it till I feel like I can do it
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Flashing roms is super easy as long as you're using ones flashable through rom manager. I must warn you it's very addictive. The only thing I would say is make your you backup in case something goes wrong and avoid Voodoo until you've flashed a few times and feel more comfortable. Great thing is there is tons of support here. I suggest you try Bionix Final.
Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Joshochoa187 said:
I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Yes you can.
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Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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Dooo eeet!
Yes, it's daunting at first to flash a new ROM, but I just did it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was simple and easy. Just read up as much as you can and then write up a "roadmap" on all the steps you need to take, before, during, and after. It removed a lot of headaches for me because I planned it all out and had all the software ready in case anything went wrong (Odin, stock ROM, etc.). If there are any gaps in your understanding or questions about a process, ask them here before you flash!
I would root it and load a custom ROM, waiting for official OTA update to Froyo is like playing a Russian roulette now. Look what a simple update that was suppsoed to address GPS and other issues did to your fellow TMO users.
As always, there will be people who wouldn't even know that you can root the device to make it your own, so they will always run stock, and complain to TMO when they click MobiTV app and never use it, but have to cough up 10 bucks a month for it (it is just an example).
If you came here you know that you can do something to your phone besides waiting for Froyo, take a full advantage of what is offered in the dev section, and don't forget to support the developers if you like the work they do
Ok I'm reading the thread you posted how do I preform nandroid back up?
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Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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If you are going to root, you might as well just do it.
Froyo could easily be 2-3 months down the road yet.
you need ROM manager...
it took me forever to find a how-to on this exact thing.
You have to be rooted in order to accomplish this:
1. root (obviously)
2. download ROM manager
3. open ROM manager and click on 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' and pick your phone.
4. click 'Backup Current ROM'
5. Let it do it's thing... it's going to reboot and run in recovery then reboot again.
6. You are done!!
To recover, you have to boot into clockwork recovery and click restore then pick the date file you made to recover to that date!
** If any of this is wrong, please call me out!!
Yeah, I started doing all this before I even discovered ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery. Those tools definitely make everything so much easier.
Make sure you have the following software tools:
ADB
Odin
Rom Manager (w/ ClockworkMod Recovery installed)
Titanium Backup
Also, make sure your phone is not hardware locked before you begin. Try the standard procedure to enter Recovery Mode; if your phone is hardware locked, run the flashable fix (found in the dev forum) so that you have some way of recovering from a soft brick.
From my experiences, rooting has always been the fastest way to get updates. Those rollouts take forever.
Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Way to go!
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lol. i was waiting for a froyo release, i flashed my g1 a bunch so flashing wasn't a big deal, but i was happy with the phone stock for a bit and didn't mind waiting. but i rooted after a week. was flashing smaller things like ji2 gps, getting rid of bloatware, changing bootup/shutdown, etc. a couple weeks later. and a couple weeks after that i started flashing roms.
moral of the story? just root and start flashing now, it's a long wait.
Here's the reply an Acer representative posted on Acer ANZ Facebook page:
"the A501 update has two more security patch integrated hence the slight delay on the update. The date is very likely to be tomorrow, that the first batch of users are going to receive FOTA update notification. Australia & New Zealand are amongst the first countries with the updates made available. Appreciate your understanding and hopefully the update will be with you shortly.".
This was posted around 3.30 PM of the 09/19 (UTC).
Just remember...
DON'T RUSH TO APPLY IT OR YOU'LL LOSE ROOT!
Wait for the devs to modify the OTA and take out the new bootloader and recovery...
This is like the millionth time I've read that 3.2 is unrootable... LoL Repetita iuvant
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This is like the millionth time I've read that 3.2 is unrootable... LoL Repetita iuvant
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Considering how many idiots have flashed it and then come in here crying about it, it bares repeating.
So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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Very good question. I updated fully knowing I would loose root, however I have full confidence that the devs will work it out.
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So, in your opinion, is everyone that flashed the 3.2 an idiot or just those that are now crying about it?
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The ones that are crying about it, obviously.
After searching on this forum and others, I updated to 3.2, at the time I could not find anything stating that you couldn't root it, but also nothing saying you could. I did however see a few posts from people doing previous upgrades saying that they managed to maintain root. At the time I realized there was a risk I wouldn't be able to root it, but it seemed likely I would. I also figured that if I couldn't root it, at least I could always flash back to 3.1 and root that.
Unfortunately I was wrong on both counts. Since that time I, and others, have made sure that anyone who asks is very aware of the risks so that others don't make the same mistake that I did.
I'm not really complaining though, I do have full confidence that 3.2 will be rooted in time, and while I enjoy having a rooted tablet, and use many applications that require it, not having root is not a deal breaker for me. and I still enjoy the tablet (though I must say the ads are drivng me nuts!)
I guess this is what I get for being an early adopter.
Looks like that was true. Downloading now on my A501...
I'm calling it "Acer Payback" for originally giving us the most easy to root device I've ever seen
Besides, anybody who roots and installs a custom recovery should know...Never take an OTA factory update, or at least be cautious about doing it.
One poster on another forum, was advised by Acer Support to do a factory reset to roll back to factory
I'm no rocket scientist, but doesn't that involve using that pinhole by the rocker?
Anybody try this yet? Results?
Not sure about what your question means... Update wouldn't install ("update not valid" error), so I did a Factory Reset: Settings -> Privacy -> Factory Reset (backup your internal SD as it'll be formatted). After that the update completed fine.
First impressions: snappier; some stuff (like keyboard) looks crispier on screen; more stable networks; new movie editor; etc.
Definitely a huge improvemente over 3.0.1.
So guys.. could anyone say what should i do to take safe OTA update while i have rooted a501 HV hc3.2 CWM? What are steps to do this not bricking our tab?
As guys said i could wait for way to root stock rom.
This is a judgement call. Basically, if you're happy being rooted, and you're running a custom rom with 3.2, I really see no need to revert back to stock, unless you have a lot of funky issues.
Personally, I wouldn't look forward to setting things up all over again, then having to wait till the devs com eup with another root, which may not be as easy as before. Not to mention I would lose ad-hoc support along with a couple of root required apps.
But if you have issues, then by all means, run the OTA.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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if you're happy being rooted, and you're running a custom rom with 3.2, I really see no need to revert back to stock
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Reality call: not everyone wants to flash a custom rom. I've been flashing roms on WinMo, then Android for years and I've come to the conclusion that, no matter what, stock is better. The only time custom may be preferable is once the device isn't anymore updated officially.
As a side note, please notice that we A501 users were still running 3.0.1 prior to this update and, as you know, that ROM was terrible. This is why I preferred updating immediately (and having, finally, a device that works well) without waiting for root and other mods, which I can live well without.
You could download the FOTA and modify it to remove the new bootloader and recovery and get it rooted, like ezterry did with the A500 version. Maybe try contacting him on exactly what to modify...
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Reality call: not everyone wants to flash a custom rom.
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No reality call needed . If you had looked at the guys post, he/she is running Honey Villain3.2, which I believe is a custom Rom. The post was wether or not there was a need to revert back to a non-rootable factory rom, without taking a chance of things going bad.
I really couldn't tell you about 3.0. It lasted about 20 minutes after I bought my 501. To say that "3.0 was a terrible Rom", and then say "Stock is better", is a contradiction in itself.
Flashing any rom, should be a personal choice, of course there are pro's and con's which each person has to decide. And they should do their homework beforehand.
So really, there is no need to get "snippy"
But then again, there are always trolls about
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No reality call needed . If you had looked at the guys post, he/she is running Honey Villain3.2, which I believe is a custom Rom. The post was wether or not there was a need to revert back to a non-rootable factory rom.
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Ops! Didn't see that post; I thought you had come here to instruct us to discard stock in favor of custom. Sorry.
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So really, there is no need to get "snippy"
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I didn't get "snippy". I'm just tired to read, every single time there's some problem, "flash a custom" as the only solution. It wasn't your case, though, sorry.
No problemo.
But as you say, flashing is not a cure for everything. But for those of us who like to tweak things, it's nice to know we have that choice.
I just wish people would read about these things, before they get themselves in trouble.
Or the best is "I rooted, now what?"
Or, "I didn't see my exact model, but I flashed one that was close".
yea thats what i meant. I had rooted my device cuz 3.0.1 was awful. Again, i have to roll back to 3.0.1 since i have instaled 3.2 ( some factory default ??) Or what? And as you gays said Id like tu be sure before i start doing anything in this subject.
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i have to roll back to 3.0.1 since i have instaled 3.2 ( some factory default ??)
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Yes, you must go back to stock to update.
I have looked everywhere and can't find out. Some say it isn't locked, some say it is. Is it unlocked so you can not rom? If so, I will get the Xoom.
Its not locked its encrypted. There are ways around it to install custom roms
Read threads in the developers threads.
Thanks for the reply. So whats the big deal about it being locked?
Its a so called way to protect the rights of digital media and software developers.by having the device locked it suposed to limit hacking ability.but there is always a way around it.
They should leave our devices to us.
Thanks for the answer. I will get the Xoom. It is better (performance). It can also unlocked and relocked.
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Thanks for the answer. I will get the Xoom. It is better (performance). It can also unlocked and relocked.
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lol same hardware, same performance. Mine is unlocked, and unless you accept the latest update to 3.2, you're good to go, and even then you can downgrade, root, then manually update to a pre-rooted 3.2 ROM.
ER, you just lost one to a Xoom lol
So does this mean if I were to create a custom kernel I couldn't?
I really like the Iconia. It has a USB port and good screen. I also like the Xoom. If the Acer can't be hacked I will get the Xoom as it is also a very good tablet imo .
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So does this mean if I were to create a custom kernel I couldn't?
I really like the Iconia. It has a USB port and good screen. I also like the Xoom. If the Acer can't be hacked I will get the Xoom as it is also a very good tablet imo .
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The Acer is already "hacked". Go to the DEV section of the A500 forums. You'll find plenty to read
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The Acer is already "hacked". Go to the DEV section of the A500 forums. You'll find plenty to read
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There are custom roms but I don't think they have custom android kernels as the bootloader is still encrypt.
I will go for the Acer. I am sure in 12 months for now they will unlock it because something new will come out (tegra 3). I won't be unlocking it until my warranty expires in 2012.
Acer seems to have better screen etc.
Cheers again for all the help so far.
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There are custom roms but I don't think they have custom android kernels as the bootloader is still encrypt.
I will go for the Acer. I am sure in 12 months for now they will unlock it because something new will come out (tegra 3). I won't be unlocking it until my warranty expires in 2012.
Acer seems to have better screen etc.
Cheers again for all the help so far.
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You evidentally didn't read far enough. There are more custom kernels than I could shake my D#$& at. Lol
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You evidentally didn't read far enough. There are more custom kernels than I could shake my D#$& at. Lol
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Lol. That was the deciding factor. Off to buy an Iconia . I thought an encrypted bootloader couldn't allow custom kernels. Sorry, i'm good at I.T but kind of new to this stuff. First tablet.
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Lol. That was the deciding factor. Off to buy an Iconia . I thought an encrypted bootloader couldn't allow custom kernels. Sorry, i'm good at I.T but kind of new to this stuff. First tablet.
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NP. We aren't allowed to link to this site, but Google tegraowners dot com.
More custom kernels than you could shake your d#$% at there as well, and he keeps his updates coming fairly regularly.
V. Good site. So Why are people moaning about the bootloader if you can install a custom kernel/os.
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V. Good site. So Why are people moaning about the bootloader if you can install a custom kernel/os.
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3.2 bootloader is locked, so ppl are cooking pre-rooted 3.2 roms and custom kernels.
If you OTA from 3.1 to 3.2 you'll lose root, and have to downgrade which is a pita!
There are a few stock pre-rooted 3.2 ROMS in the DEV section, along with at least a couple custom kernels that will work with stock 3.2 ROM.
The people that are moaning are the id10ts that took the OTA, and haven't a clue how to downgrade to get their root back, and start over the correct way.
I prefer the Xoom. Less weight, even more hackable and better performance.
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Still undecided
I still don't understand. Could I install any kernel onto this tablet?
edit: I guess it has to be based on Acer's?
tweaker101 said:
Still undecided
I still don't understand. Could I install any kernel onto this tablet?
edit: I guess it has to be based on Acer's?
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Did you not go to the site I posted? Have you not read the DEV forum here?
Get an IPad, then you won't have to worry about kernels.
Sorry for being like that, but there's soooooo much information about custom kernels on these forums for our A500, that I'm beginning to wonder if you can read (not trying to be a smartazz, just stating the obvious).
kjy2010 said:
Did you not go to the site I posted? Have you not read the DEV forum here?
Get an IPad, then you won't have to worry about kernels.
Sorry for being like that, but there's soooooo much information about custom kernels on these forums for our A500, that I'm beginning to wonder if you can read (not trying to be a smartazz, just stating the obvious).
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I'm sorry. I will read more. Just being lazy
Been reading some roms. They appear to be based on Acer's Kernel.
tweaker101 said:
Been reading some roms. They appear to be based on Acer's Kernel.
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If you want spoon feeding, you can ask at Disney.com forums.
Your questions have been answered in full.
One more time since it appears as though you didn't get it the first few times.
Yes there are custom kernels for the A500, both here in the DEV section of the forums, as well as elsewhere on other sites.
If you still don't get it, then I implore you to take the advice of the other person and buy a Xoom, or better yet an IPad so you can brick one of those and then start a thread "Help....bricked Xoom".
How many times do you need your question answered?!?
I want to flash a custom ROM onto my DX, but I'm pretty new to the game. I've rooted, and have installed ROM Manager, and Titanium backup, etc, but am a bit gun-shy about going the custom ROM route, mostly due to inexperience.
I see that CMx and Liberty are the popular ROMs for DX, but I'm not sure which is the better one to go with. It seems that CMx is feature-packed, but has battery issues. Is this true? Is there a stock Android ROM for DX out there?
Also, it seems like in some cases, like with CMx, that you have to downgrade to an earlier firmware version first. Is this still the case with DX, and is it common for flashing any DX custom ROM?
Thanks,
Mike
Check my sig sir. I recommend using that guide.
And CM7 or MIUI (Use wizards defy 2 build.)
Jubakuba, your sig link isn't working
mikecico said:
I want to flash a custom ROM onto my DX, but I'm pretty new to the game. I've rooted, and have installed ROM Manager, and Titanium backup, etc, but am a bit gun-shy about going the custom ROM route, mostly due to inexperience.
I see that CMx and Liberty are the popular ROMs for DX, but I'm not sure which is the better one to go with. It seems that CMx is feature-packed, but has battery issues. Is this true? Is there a stock Android ROM for DX out there?
Also, it seems like in some cases, like with CMx, that you have to downgrade to an earlier firmware version first. Is this still the case with DX, and is it common for flashing any DX custom ROM?
Thanks,
Mike
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Rom flashing is a completely safe and reversible process. Before you begin flashing roms though, familiarize yourself with the SBFing process.
Cm7 doesn't necessarily have battery issues, it just doesn't get as much batter life as roms such as Vortex and Liberty. Cm7 is probably as close to AOSP as you will want to get.
You DO NOT have to downgrade for Cm7. You can, but it is not recommended unless you want to run the official nightlies (which aren't as good as the unofficial nightlies).
When you begin your foray in to rom flashing remember to always use Droid 2 Bootstrapper and never use Droid X Bootstrapper.
Sorry, I have no Idea why that darn thing isn't accepting BB code...
But either way, copy and paste will work. Or here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374281
Thanks guys, looks like I've got some reading for my sick day today!
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It may seem slightly daunting...
But if you're anything like me...
Just jumping on in really does make it easier.
I promise you if you follow my tutorial...It isn't like most tutorials.
Remember doing the very basic PB&J tutorial in school?
Where you had to say every single step...
Get bread.
Open jar.
Dip knife in jar...blablabla.
That's how I based my tut.
It's very easy to follow!
Roms
I have tried MIUI So on and so forth. Im privy to using liquid smooth roms. For the X. http://liquidsmoothroms.com/node/1
Quick follow on question, I noticed there's a Droid X bootstrap recovery app in addition to the droid 2 one. Should I still stick with the droid 2 ones according to the guide?
Thanks again,
Mike
Whoops, sorry just reread the earlier comment about avoiding the DX bootstrap. Never mind...
So, I installed Liberty 3.0, and have been very happy. More stable, faster, longer battery life. Wish I did this months ago. Went from hating my DX on a daily basis to loving it again. It's like a new phone.
The only problem now is that Verizon's pushing out their latest update, and I don't want it. Last thing I want to see is Blur on my phone again. Is there a way to disable this update?
Don't know if Liberty take OTA verizon update, would think it would be disabled. But on stock ROM freeze updater in titanium would prevent the OTA. I just did it last week as I didn't want the latest OTA reminder continuously popping up until I know how it panned out.
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It's just listed as "updater 2.3.3", right? Just want to make sure I freeze the right thing.
mikecico said:
It's just listed as "updater 2.3.3", right? Just want to make sure I freeze the right thing.
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I think so. That or 'OTA Updater'.
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mikecico said:
It's just listed as "updater 2.3.3", right? Just want to make sure I freeze the right thing.
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yes
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