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My HD2 is very unstable with different ROMS. Help please

Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.

I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).

What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb

[email protected] said:
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?

willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.

dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.

tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.

tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets

Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...

Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me

willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.

I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before

Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...

mtty may help u out

dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!

Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS

gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.

use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.

help me

Hi,
I've a problem : everytime open the gallery (I've in storage card 150 pictures) the phone stop and the only thing to do id pull put battery.
I've on my Leo AXTTOR rom now, bbut the problem is the same wit other rom.
van you help me ?
tks to everybody

jonata said:
Hi,
I've a problem : everytime open the gallery (I've in storage card 150 pictures) the phone stop and the only thing to do id pull put battery.
I've on my Leo AXTTOR rom now, bbut the problem is the same wit other rom.
van you help me ?
tks to everybody
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Firstly, and thread title of HELP ME is one off the biggest turn offs imaginable and NOT the way to get indepth response from the members.
All new members please note!
That said, we need more info.
Whats running/installed?
What type and speed of mem card do you have?
Did it react that way on the stock ROM.
How long did you give it to open? etc, etc.
I have just opened my album of some 60 images and it was there immediately!
So there are other factors at work here.

sorry ...
my sd is a 6 class.
my problem is that the gallery stop to work and th ephone il blocked
my rom now is axlor
the gallery open immediatly but when I scroll images, after 4/5 pictures hang ....
tks for reply

jonata said:
sorry ...
my sd is a 6 class.
my problem is that the gallery stop to work and th ephone il blocked
my rom now is axlor
the gallery open immediatly but when I scroll images, after 4/5 pictures hang ....
tks for reply
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The ROM isnt the problem. The gallery is building up cache, so it is working in the background. This is due to manila, and therefore u will have this issue in all roms.
Give it time to work...
When I had this issue I opened up the gallery and went through all the pictures, restarted the phone and opened the gallery again. Try this a couple of times.
I hope this helps you....
Btw did u hard reset after flashing?

dashrink said:
The ROM isnt the problem. The gallery is building up cache, so it is working in the background. This is due to manila, and therefore u will have this issue in all roms.
Give it time to work...
When I had this issue I opened up the gallery and went through all the pictures, restarted the phone and opened the gallery again. Try this a couple of times.
I hope this helps you....
Btw did u hard reset after flashing?
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no, didn't hard reset ...
you think I need ?

jonata said:
no, didn't hard reset ...
you think I need ?
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After every Custom ROM flash u have to do at least one hard reset, otherwise u can get a buggy rom. There is a better tech explanation to why, which im sure would be easy to find if you search the forum. Oh and it is a very good idea to delete the application data folder on your sd card before the hardreset. beware the hardreset erases the phone data, so its a good idea to do a backup of your contacts, messages etc etc... Good luck bro

ok,
tks very much for help

[Q] Cannot open file.......PROBLEM.

Hi,
Im having a huge amount of problems with trying out a new version of android,
The install failed so i removed that version of Android off my SD card,but now i get that error message(Cannot open file...) every time i try to run "CLRCAD" or "haret",....worked fine before,
ive tried...
-many different versions of Android (all very nice before this error by the way)
-deleting every possible data file on the sd card
-rebooting the Phone many times,
Any ideas?
Thanks,

Maybe a hard reset of your phone is the solution..

Worked perfectly
I feel embarrassed but grateful
Thanks,

chain622 said:
Worked perfectly
I feel embarrassed but grateful
Thanks,
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No problem mate

[Q] one question about he CLRCAD.exe

hi everyone... one question... it's may be appear stupid.. but i don't reach a response..
i have tryed to intsall AmeriCanAndroid on my HTC HD2, i have done click on CLRCAD.exe but it's don't do anything.. in sense, i don't see anything.. it's work in background? than i have started the other file, it's run but remain in black screen with the 9 rows for too much minutes, about 40 - 50 .. then i turn off the smartphone because it's don't appear normal... i am Italian so i don't know if this fact exclude me to install this OS (maybe there is some difference between the HD2 of USA and HD2 of EU ? )...
than now i'll try to install this, of jaguar.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058809
but... same story... CLRCAD.exe appear don't working... my questions are..
1) CLRCAD work in background? it's normal that i can't see anything?
2) if it's normal it's normal that the second file want all this minutes for complete the install??
3) all guides say "extract the files with 7zip" ... if i use winrar it's the same?
please help me!!
thanks.
P.S.
sorry for the errors

somebody can help me? i have the smartphone in the black screen mode since the 17:30 , now is the 20 (italian time)

you wont see it running it just enables sound in sd versions of android
you run that file then you run haret.exe to start anndroid

ok, but it's dont start ... why??

what doesnt start? if you mean clrcad.exe you wILL NOT see it running in the background

yes, i understand about it.. i mean the other exe... it's make a black screen with 9 rows, the last say "jumping ecc ecc" but it's stay like freezed for hours, and my smartphone and SD card are almost empty

Are you using a bigger battery?
I think most of the sd roms are working only with a normal battery.. Maybe this helps?!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

You mean "Jumping to kernel" ?
I assume it's your first time running android. First, You MUST have a radio of 2.08 or above . Preferrably 2.12 or 2.15 . You don't need HSPL for running Android off your sd-card. and as said before, clrcad.exe doesn't show anything; it runs in the background.
(Look for everything I've mentioned using the link in my sig)

radio? you mean the FM Radio?
if yes, i have the v 2.5 .. how can i upgrade?
sorry, i'm newbie

up.. i need response..

hi, firstly your attempting to do a sd card android boot so it should probably go into the sd card forum. Anyways a radio is a piece of software in the phone that influence some wireless signals (to my understanding). you can check yours in windows mobile by going over to the "settings", then to "about phone", then to "software information" and then look at "radio version", that's your radio. If your radio is not one of the supported, then you'll have to flash a new one.

yea, i see now.. ... i have the v 2.07.51.22_2 .. how can i upgrade that?
thanks a lot!

Read read read read !!
http://www.google.com/search?q=sd+card+rom+hd2+how+to

hosamn said:
Read read read read !!
http://www.google.com/search?q=sd+card+rom+hd2+how+to
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It's quite ironic that you're complaining about someone not reading whilst you yourself clearly haven't read the date of the post or the entire thread. If you had, you would not have unnecessarily reopened this thread and would have seen that it was pretty much resolved anyway.

Android.process.acore

Hi all,
I have a problem with my HTC Photon (HD MINI) I have installed the last relase of android : (R127) in a first moment all ok but when i have restarted my device it shows me an error : Android.process.acore what's the mean of this error? how can i resolve it?
Sorry if This thread is not written in english i'm italian and im 15... =)

HTCxxxx said:
Hi all,
I have a problem with my HTC Photon (HD MINI) I have installed the last relase of android : (R127) in a first moment all ok but when i have restarted my device it shows me an error : Android.process.acore what's the mean of this error? how can i resolve it?
Sorry if This thread is not written in english i'm italian and im 15... =)
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run Android for first time without sim card

i Have found this: http://blog.dileno.com/archive/201006/how-to-solve-the-androidprocessacore-error/ and it works...
See you Soon Guys

Hey all, thanks so much for developing this. It is amazing... I have successfully installed Android and has been running it for several times now. Everything is great. I can download and use all the Apps with no problem.
However just few days ago, I am starting to get an error when I boot Android from WinMo. The pop-up error reads, "Sorry! The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."
After clicking on a button which says "Force Close" on the pop-up, the error appears again and again - and it's never ending. However I can still see Android loading and updating at the back. Just that this error keeps coming up repeatedly, and I have no choice but to off my phone and have it run only on WinMo.
I appreciate on any advice that you may have so that I can run Android again. Thanks in advance!
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Anne

phoenixlianne said:
Hey all, thanks so much for developing this. It is amazing... I have successfully installed Android and has been running it for several times now. Everything is great. I can download and use all the Apps with no problem.
However just few days ago, I am starting to get an error when I boot Android from WinMo. The pop-up error reads, "Sorry! The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."
After clicking on a button which says "Force Close" on the pop-up, the error appears again and again - and it's never ending. However I can still see Android loading and updating at the back. Just that this error keeps coming up repeatedly, and I have no choice but to off my phone and have it run only on WinMo.
I appreciate on any advice that you may have so that I can run Android again. Thanks in advance!
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Anne
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did u try the solution above?

tzacapaca said:
did u try the solution above?
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Do you mean trying without the sim card option?
- Since I am not running android for the first time, I did not remove the sim card when I did a re-boot on Android.
Or clearing all contacts information?
- Cos i have my contacts on my sim card. So i did not do any synchronization and importing of my contacts from Gmail.
Did I miss anything out? Or am I doing anything wrong?
Once again, thanks so much for your help and guidance..

phoenixlianne said:
Do you mean trying without the sim card option?
- Since I am not running android for the first time, I did not remove the sim card when I did a re-boot on Android.
Or clearing all contacts information?
- Cos i have my contacts on my sim card. So i did not do any synchronization and importing of my contacts from Gmail.
Did I miss anything out? Or am I doing anything wrong?
Once again, thanks so much for your help and guidance..
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I meant clearing contacts yeah,sorry
seems it worked for others
I would sugest an sd card format and Android re-install,there might be an sd card error which persists..

did you also try http://tinyurl.com/3zanh95 ?
p.s. when you set up phone for 1st time did you put your tweeter login in HTC wizard form?

tzacapaca said:
I meant clearing contacts yeah,sorry
seems it worked for others
I would sugest an sd card format and Android re-install,there might be an sd card error which persists..
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Thanks so much for the advice.. but I pretty much guessed that it was best to do a SD card reformat and Android re-installation..
I was just hoping that there was a better way than to do that..
I must have done "some thing wrong" while running on Android which caused that error..
But yeah, thanks anyway! Appreciate it loads..

uhhhh.. i don't tweet.. so i am quite sure that would be a "No"...
besides, i have been running Android for very many times before this..
Until one day, i boot Android from WinMo like how I always do.. I WASN'T trying to do anything else.. just a Boot..
And the error appeared, and it just keeps on coming endlessly.. with Android running in the background..

problem on setting/wireless and network/mobile data/access point name
hi i have a problem with that page when i try to enter gives me an error.
i have also a problem with data mobile,after installed some app(i don't know exatly wich one cause problem,but i think one which on edition page say block apn when data are less ... MB),and then i can't connect with mobile internet but only wi-fi.
before format android i ll like find a solution.