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OMG! What's wrong with Sony Ericsson???!!!

I can't believe this... Why can't they open up the Xperia X2 too???
http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1984

respectable company
i think they forget x2 .
i will not buy any Sony ercicsson mobile even they sell the best mobile on the plan
they are not respectable company , I’ m sure there is no quality control in their manufacturing process , u see x2 haven’t 3G video call , radio till u update ur x2.
mobile,
how u box it with all these bugs,: mad:

Ok lets look at the facts....
1. The X10, X8, X10minis aren't having there bootloaders unlocked, so why would they unlock the X2s?
2. Sony Ericsson isn't going to invest money into a platform/phone they don't sell/use anymore just to make some people happy. Sony Ericsson is a company not a charity, so if it doesn't make money why would they do it?

That Guy Is Here said:
Sony Ericsson isn't going to invest money into a platform/phone they don't sell/use anymore just to make some people happy. Sony Ericsson is a company not a charity, so if it doesn't make money why would they do it?
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The fact is that Sony Ericsson released a phone oriented for Business-users and companies. The phone did have a pricetag worth around 650€, so it was a phone from the more expensiver end.
In other words this phone was not intended to be a toy as most of Sony Ericsson's phones are. It's just because of this i feel that Sony Ericcson let down their customers by cheating them with a phone that is currently pure crap. They supported the phone about 3 months with a couple of software-releases, and ditched it after this. 3 months is not what a company expects a business-phone's support to be. I see it to be at least 1-1,5 years after the initial release. Toys could just go with one update, and then they could get ignored after this.
Now that SE is focusing their development more or less on only Android Phones, i don't see any reason why they could not try to clean up their mess by releasing an Android-verison for the phone, and try to calm down pissed of customers with a crap phone.
I really don't understand why someone loves Windows Mobile. I totally hate WinMo, and i just find annoyances, flaws and stupid behaviours in this bloated operating-system.
That Nokias Stephen E-flop picked Winmo for their phones will be an end for their era as a leading cellphone-manufacturer... Windows is NOT suitable for mobile devices. They should just stick with desktop-computers.

We are wrong...SE are late
When X1 was released (lately) it should have been like X2 (with all the extra features that X2 have and X1 don't) the price of X1 was in level with competitors that have better and newer hardware and features.
When X2 comes out SE was late again... all competitors were lauching Snapdragon 1GHZ CPU Phones (for that level of price) and SE mantains the hardware identical to X1...
They're late in hardware and in software dev (OS releases) and because of that, they were not enable to sold X2 (they release, almost at the same time, the X10 with Android) so they quit the development of it.
We were wrong... we bought it at high level price (confident in the high quality that the name SE brings with it - the wave before touch phones wasn't so dependent of OS software) when we should waste our money with other brands.
That's my personal opinion. I've been buying SE since t68i (P910, K800i, P990, X1, X2 and Satio). I'm happy with my current SE phones (Satio and X2) but I'll not buy again SE phones blindly (without check all competitors).
By the same price I'll be more happier with another phone from another brand with more capabilities.

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Xcalibur08 said:
When X1 was released (lately) it should have been like X2 (with all the extra features that X2 have and X1 don't) the price of X1 was in level with competitors that have better and newer hardware and features.
When X2 comes out SE was late again... all competitors were lauching Snapdragon 1GHZ CPU Phones (for that level of price) and SE mantains the hardware identical to X1...
They're late in hardware and in software dev (OS releases) and because of that, they were not enable to sold X2 (they release, almost at the same time, the X10 with Android) so they quit the development of it.
We were wrong... we bought it at high level price (confident in the high quality that the name SE brings with it - the wave before touch phones wasn't so dependent of OS software) when we should waste our money with other brands.
That's my personal opinion. I've been buying SE since t68i (P910, K800i, P990, X1, X2 and Satio). I'm happy with my current SE phones (Satio and X2) but I'll not buy again SE phones blindly (without check all competitors).
By the same price I'll be more happier with another phone from another brand with more capabilities.
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right the same words +1

X2 are you kidding me?
Seriously people are still talking about this device! With what's on offer now from Sony Ericsson I am sure they will claw their way back in the mix! X2 was dead in the water before release as handsets available at time of it's release offered much more. There will be no hdspl for x2 as quite frankly the demand isn't high enough and the phone is bugged. Winmo 6 is dead IMO with mango release eminent on wp7.1 alas put x2 to bed

I agree. I would have bought the X2 had it not been for the exorbitant retail price, plus no GSM carrier support here in the US. Now, all support, especially the OS, will be gone, making this phone DOA. A real shame, because the X2 had, and still has lots of potential.
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These days a SE X2 can be had for as little as around 200 euro (new or demo), so maybe that is an acceptable price for what it offers. I still believe the keyboard is way above anything the competition offers (including the latest Nokia E7).

x2user said:
These days a SE X2 can be had for as little as around 200 euro (new or demo), so maybe that is an acceptable price for what it offers. I still believe the keyboard is way above anything the competition offers (including the latest Nokia E7).
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The X2 still has the best keyboard out of any current smartphone on the market. I wish SE would release a Windows 7.5 phone with an identical keyboard.

Now OFFICIAL: Sony Ericsson to become a wholly owned subsidiary of SONY

Sony Ericsson to become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony and integrated into Sony's broad platform of network-connected consumer electronics products
The transaction also provides Sony with a broad IP cross-licensing agreement and ownership of five essential patent families
Ericsson to receive EUR 1.05 billion cash payment
Sony and Ericsson to create wireless connectivity initiative to drive connectivity across multiple platforms
Ericsson (NASDAQ:ERIC) and Sony Corporation ("Sony") today announced that Sony will acquire Ericsson's 50 percent stake in Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB ("Sony Ericsson"), making the mobile handset business a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony.
-Excerpt from the press release.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/sony-buys-out-ericssons-stake-in-joint-venture-assumes-ownersh/
Opinions??
Hoping this to be a great decision.

Lets Wait and Watch...

I hope they don't get rid of the green logo. its cool! Overall I think it is wise decision considering Sony with its potential should have been at least at par with other brands if not above. they make great phones. Delays and poor marketing are the only things that are holding them back.
Here in India, (where SE became no.2 for a brief period of time) nobody has heard of the phone Xperia arc. Whereas Galaxy phones hoardings and adverts are all over!
Now few patent licenses coming directly under their thumb may speed things up. Also we might see better integration of Sony's multimedia and gaming with the mobile business.
All the best Sony!

Just hoping to have even better Xperias.........

Better get your bootloaders unlocked before sony pull the page...

I hope the phones still look just as sexy and have better features than now. If it goes worse then I dont even know what ill go for . I only like sony phones.

soldiers33 said:
I hope the phones still look just as sexy and have better features than now. If it goes worse then I dont even know what ill go for . I only like sony phones.
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Me too!!!!!......

Sony has confirmed today that they will acquire Ericsson’s 50% stake in the company for EUR 1.05 billion in cash ($1,47 billion US dollar)
The separation won't be finalized, however, until January 2012, pending regulatory approval.
Finally ...

Mobage said:
Sony has confirmed today that they will acquire Ericsson’s 50% stake in the company for EUR 1.05 billion in cash ($1,47 billion US dollar)
The separation won't be finalized, however, until January 2012, pending regulatory approval.
Finally ...
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Oh yeah. Im wondering what will happen to the rumored phone Sony Ericsson Nozomi. Will it be scrapped altogether or just a rebranding when they announce it?
Will there be a logo and font revamp? Hmm.
I remembered one of their great camera phones, the K750! From the year 2005 I think.

daveybaby said:
Better get your bootloaders unlocked before sony pull the page...
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Haha. Just like the removal of the other OS support for the PS3. Lol.

I don't think it will affect the phone because most probably they will keep the employees and designers so they will still produce the same quality phones. They might redesign the logo most companies does that to spread the word

i hope that our Xperia phones will be still supported from Sony :S
And now what about ICS 4.0 ?
Will Sony release it or does they change the Ideas on how and what to Update ?

I am very skeptical about this. There was a reason why both companies joined forces in 2001. Sony SUCKED at making mobile phones!! And Ericsson was not doing too well either.

batman_112 said:
I am very skeptical about this. There was a reason why both companies joined forces in 2001. Sony SUCKED at making mobile phones!! And Ericsson was not doing too well either.
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To be fair they only made a couple before. They bought a brand instead of building one internally and now they are fine. Good news is the designs have been all Sony and probably will stay top tier.

hopefully we will see a killer phone with sony OLED screen with Bravia Engine wonder when will that day will come =__=

daveybaby said:
Better get your bootloaders unlocked before sony pull the page...
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Agree. If they have pulled the page, and done. Ur not be able to unlock ur arc.
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dubist said:
i hope that our Xperia phones will be still supported from Sony :S
And now what about ICS 4.0 ?
Will Sony release it or does they change the Ideas on how and what to Update ?
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Sony will bring good things to us.. wait and watch!

I guess we will get great integration, great adds, great drm ....
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I do believe it's going to great step for us, Sony have many partners and they work great with them
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in the post below it seems as sony is saying that it wont be making anymore phones
Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/sony-buys-out-ericssons-stake-in-joint-venture-assumes-ownersh/

What are you thoughts on the end of Sony Ericsson?

While one chapter ends, another begins. I had a feeling Sony would take over the joint venture as soon as I heard the world PlayStation Certified.
I for one will miss being able to say Sony Ericsson (It just rolls off the tongue like nothing else), and am glad for investing in this phone.
Lets hope for great PlayStation support with the new era of mobile gaming. Cheers the to future!
What are your thoughts on the takeover?
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Damn it. Sony Ericsson just sounds so great. My father's first phone was an Ericsson
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Honestly, I'm a little... iffy about it.
If you're a logical, rational-minded being who's been following Sony's PSP/PS3 campaign, the likelihood that you want their fail-sure ad-campaigns and drop-dead idiotic marketing strategies/decisions to control smartphones would be pretty low.
I'd amassed quite a bit of respect for Sony Ericsson. As I've mentioned elsewhere, they've really stepped their game up in firmware update competence, stepped up to the plate for a "uninstallable bloatware" movement that NEEDED to happen... and that Kristen Schaal ad campaign... that's EASILY better than everything the big-wig version of Sony has done in these past couple years.
...I'm kinda just feeling like Sony's gonna forward their trend of screw-ups to a mobile division that was actually making a lot of very good moves. If the same people stay in charge of the mobile division (just under Sony's wing) that'd be a good idea.

Sony locks out people who want to use their media stores if they unlock their bootloader. Sony Ericsson provides mod teams with hardware and drivers.
Sony is swallowing Sony Ericsson.
That's all I need to know.

Logseman said:
Sony locks out people who want to use their media stores if they unlock their bootloader. Sony Ericsson provides mod teams with hardware and drivers.
Sony is swallowing Sony Ericsson.
That's all I need to know.
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Exactly. And that's why they lost sales on the PSP and PSP GO, when they finally succeeded to block people from hacking them, they started vanishing from the streets.
Our Plays are still on the SE side, who knows what's next after they release an update, or about future phones. I'm not much of a game buyer so I preffer a more open device (as far as we can get with SE) than PSN - unless they freaking blow my mind with God of War.

http://www.sonymobile.com/

So www.sonyericsson.com is gone and now it is http://www.sonymobile.com/ end of an era.

Hopefully we will see some benefits out of this merger, as consumers.
I agree, end of an era.

Bye Bye SE, we are gonna miss you

augie7107 said:
Hopefully we will see some benefits out of this merger, as consumers.
I agree, end of an era.
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Merger? Have I missed something?

LenAsh said:
Merger? Have I missed something?
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yes......................the takeover by Sony of SonyEricsson.
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So can we call our mobiles now SONY Xperia Arc

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So can we call our mobiles now SONY Xperia Arc
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nope they're still SE

Thank god ericsson gone
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It's been 10 years I'm faithful with Sony Ericsson for the reliable and the highly-configurable phones they released. (Got a T300, a V800, a T707 and now an Arc).
I hope Sony will be able to walk their steps and will continue to release such good phones.

You'll probably find most of the Ericsson antipathy comes from previous x10 owners, due to the length of time it took se listen to us about its shortfalls, and how to improve them. They were good at feature phones, though...
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but thanks to SONY ERICSSON without that theres no thing like xperia series

back to sony
yeah, now I'm back to Sony
I had the Sony CMD-Z1 and Z5.
The Z5 had "fullblown" web browser - Microsoft Mobile Explorer 2.0
edit: version 2.0 not 1.0

I've always wanted the CMD-Z1. It was one of the nicest phones in its time but I don't think it was even capable of working in Canada at the time.
I've been a long Sony Ericsson user since the first T68 series phones.. now those phones were truly ahead of its time and started a lot of trends that we see in phones today.
The phone supported tethering via bluetooth and infrared. I walked around thinking I was king with my unlimited data plan with Rogers with my phone in my pocket and my Sony NZ90 clie wirelessly tethering internet from it.
the phone featured accessories like a digital camera, torch light, laser pointer adapters, full qwerty keyboard adapters, and even RC cars (via bluetooth) which was the coolest thing at the time but marketing was so terrible (at least in Canada) that nobody knew about the features in these phones. it was the first color screen phone released with user-selectable color themes & wallpapers and play games wirelessly with other T68 users.
While I think the T68 phone was one of the first phones Sony Ericsson has ever made as a joint venture, it was probably the best phone ever made. period. iirc, Sony claimed that they would partner up with Ericsson since both parties were facing losses in the telecommunications industry and Sony would gain total ownership after 10 years. So here we are 10 years later and it's amazing how quickly the mobile telecommunications industry grew during that time.

is their some one who use this already? what do you think guys flashtool still we can use it??

I'm gonna miss the SE logo.....

Is this the end of our Xperia?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/

It was rumored, and it now looks it is true. Z4 the last one probably.

Oh nooooes! What other premium small phone will I get? I'm going to have to walk around with a manpurse to carry my next cell phone. Boooo! And forget playing ingress when I'm carrying something in the other hand (
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Yea, hopefully Xperia support lasts long enough so our phones stay updated/supported for a reasonable amount of time.

This is sad news. Sony did a good job on the Xperia line. Their hardware design is great. Their ui and menu design has been good too.
I was looking forward to the next compact.
Without a new sony Xperia compact, I'll probably get whatever the next HTC one is after the M9. Or keep my z3c as long as I can til it gets really outdated.
I really don't want go back to using a 5+ inch screen phone.
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If Sony pulls this through, it would be really a shame.
But the marketing for Xperia devices was a disaster, or should I say really non-existant, at least in Europe. So many people are not aware of the Z3 series. For most of the people it's either Apple, Samsung or (maybe) HTC. When people think about Sony phones, they still think about Sony-Ericsson phones of the 2000's...
The Z3 and Z3c got excellent reviews on nearly every tech website but it's nothing without marketing, unfortunately.
I think the Z3c has enough performance to last until 2017. I hope until then that other manufacturers realize that not everyone wants half a tablet in their pockets.

How would the support for those who have or think about for a Xperia (I'm wanting a Z3c)?

if this is true, i lose faith in humanity.

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How would the support for those who have or think about for a Xperia (I'm wanting a Z3c)?
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If I were to guess (and thats really all it is) lolipop will probably be the last major android update for the Z3 by Sony along with maybe a few bug fixes here and there.
Hardware support will probably remain the same for the next couple years at least.

I'm happy with Z3c size and battery life. Lollipop is on the way and we'll probably get 5.1, so this phone will be usable for another couple years. Might even pickup a spare for the future.
Sony mobile could turn a profit if they did their marketing homework, in the US they are hardly known, but it seems they prefer to lay down and die.

A friend asked me the other day what kind of phone I had. I told him a Sony Z3 Compact. His reply... "I didn't know Sony made phones."
Marketing FAIL...

Oh i see bad times coming. Chinese phones everywhere. *shivering*
Sony is the only company right now, which produces phones who actually attract me, except HTC maybe.
Would be really sad when they close their mobile section.
On the other side here in Germany Sony phones are quite widespread and have a high reputation and i don't know any person who doesn't know that Sony produces smartphones.

Sony has indeed failed miserably with its marketing in the US. It's almost weird to see how little the Xperia Z3 phones have been promoted after getting a ton of amazing reviews in the press last fall. Reviews like that, coupled with phenomenal battery life and waterproofing (two huge advantages over competing phones) should have been a license to print money with the Z3 models, but I've barely seen an Xperia ad anywhere and clearly there were minimal contracts with carriers. A first-year marketing student could have done a better job of promoting them than Sony.
But that seems to be Sony's overall problem. Great products, appalling marketing. When they do have a bestseller it's almost by accident. Sort of the opposite of Microsoft, which pours money into marketing crummy products (and poured money into buying Nokia only to do pretty much nothing so far).
Sad that the Xperia line might come to an end. I hope Sony can find a partner to continue... maybe just a marketing partner would help. Having lived with the Z3c for 2-3 months now I cannot imagine going back to a phone with less than 3-days battery life (for my usage) or one that's any bigger than this (perfect for one-handed operation). Those two attributes alone were the reason I gave up on Nexus/Motorola phones. Yes, the Z3c has it's flaws, as does every phone, but in this case the flaws are easily outweighed by the advantages.

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Sony has indeed failed miserably with its marketing in the US. It's almost weird to see how little the Xperia Z3 phones have been promoted after getting a ton of amazing reviews in the press last fall. Reviews like that, coupled with phenomenal battery life and waterproofing (two huge advantages over competing phones) should have been a license to print money with the Z3 models, but I've barely seen an Xperia ad anywhere and clearly there were minimal contracts with carriers. A first-year marketing student could have done a better job of promoting them than Sony.
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reminds me of Sony's handling of MiniDisc in North America. so many dumb choices and missteps along the way, like failing to capitalize on MD Data and Hi-MD, or remedying the clunkiness of proprietary NetMD before getting swept under the wave of MP3; and keeping the technology prohibitively expensive for the average consumer. and let's take a moment and remember these other Sony fails:
Betamax
DAT
MemoryStick
UMD
Satio (a touchscreen Symbian phone with a 12MP camera -- high-spec for 2009 -- with Xenon flash. phone never saw the light of day in North America, even when Symbian was the most popular mobile OS in the world, though don't get me started on Symbian's fail.)
lest we forget, at one point, pre-Xperia Sony (in partnership with Ericsson) had a super-popular Walkman phone (w810, if i'm remembering correctly), which came out about two years or so before the iPhone was released in 2007. Sony failed to innovate or anticipate the future, and were still releasing pointless multiple versions of dumb phones for a few years after.
oh, and one more: Sony was the first to come out with a music ID service on their devices -- "TrackID" via Gracenote, which is included on our phones still -- but Sony let Shazam drink all the milkshake. still remember former co-workers talking about how revolutionary the Shazam app was, years after the service was already stock on Sony phones.
so yes, there's a history of Sony failures. but i hope the Z3(c) isn't added to the list. i really dig this phone! for the record, i was also really into MD. had a Sony deck, still have two players and a couple dozen MDs (which haven't been used in a long time).

Yikes. And I just purchased a 2 year extended warranty coverage for the Z3. So if my phone dies in the next 3 year, Sony will not be able to replace it?

Alex190397 said:
Oh i see bad times coming. Chinese phones everywhere. *shivering*
Sony is the only company right now, which produces phones who actually attract me, except HTC maybe.
Would be really sad when they close their mobile section.
On the other side here in Germany Sony phones are quite widespread and have a high reputation and i don't know any person who doesn't know that Sony produces smartphones.
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http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...futes_rumours_mobile_division_is_up_for_sale/

Sony Mobile chief says speculation about division sale is “completely untrue”
http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/03/03/s...ion-about-division-sale-is-completely-untrue/
LONG LIVE SONY!