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Cyanogen vs Virtuous

Just wondering what your thoughts are. I like them both, so hopefully you can all help me make a decision.
Notes:
*if option to customize lock screen exists, HUGE plus
*I'll probably overclock / use SetCPU, so good balance of performance / battery is huge for me.
Duke it out!

I've had experience with both, virtuous is nice but CM is so much faster. It is also nice to have Android the way it was meant to be and not some companies highly modded version.
Sense uses quite a lot of memory whereas CM does not and this makes a big difference with how responsive your phone can be.

I've been using CM 7.0 Nightlies for quite a while now and the speed is awesome, plus I also like the fact that it's Android the way it should be. Battery is great for me with Cyanogen as well, about 26-30 hours with average usage (stock battery).

Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
One example would be facebook linking to your contacts. I hate seeing a generic photo when I get calls and would rather see the picture of the person calling. Having this kind of assumed integration is great. Other features like the dialer, working GPS and rmk's other small tweaks (see: Virtuous advanced kernel for use with SetCPU) make the Sense experience that much better.
On the otherhand, AOSP or CM versions of android are much lighter as they dont have the kind of assumptions and integrations of a Sense-based rom. Being highly customizable, you can implement different launchers, skins, lock screens, docks, etc.. but I did find myself cursing at some points because I am just a Sense kind of guy deep inside.
It really comes down to personal preference. Try them both for a week and see how you feel about them. Alot of people have been saying Virtuous is laggy, but I have not seen any of that lag. As with all flashes, clear data, cache, battery and davlik through recovery! Have fun and i hope you find the rom that fits you.
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Athrun88 said:
Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
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Sense is definitely nice, and it's something that easily sets HTC devices apart from the pack. That being said, I'm much more of an AOSP kind of guy, because as nice and pretty as Sense is, it just takes up too much RAM for my liking, and the launcher is just not customizable enough for me. Having only 3 buttons at the bottom absolutely drives me nuts; I've got to have the scrolling bottom row like Go Launcher and Launcher Pro provide. Obviously you can use these on a Sense rom, but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher? For me it boils down to this, and I'm sure the many other features that Cyanogenmod has that I use on a daily basis. I haven't used Virtuous since I got the phone in October, so I'm sure there's more stuff on it now than before, but I'm definitely a Cyanogenmod kind of guy. Plus there are roms based off Cyanogen, like Mexdroid, that add all kinds of pretty and additional functionality that I like.

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but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher?
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The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.

For a daily, I would pick CM7 since it's quick and I'm pretty much guaranteed a full day of usage no matter what.
Virtuous, Sense, is nice and all, but the lag is a deal breaker for me. The only perks I see from Sense is the refined UI and better FaceBook integration, other than that, I don't really need it. And the battery life on Sense roms seems to be half of what I get on CM7.
CM7, stock android, is catching up though, with Gingerbread the UI has been given a cleaner look and my contacts do sync with FaceBook, but every now and then I'll have a duplicate contact, which in Sense it would allow me to link the two together. The only problem I would see with CM7 would be all of the customization options. I'd say that I'm an above average Android user, but all of the options I have available to me to customize the phone look is a bit overwhelming, in my opinion. It takes me a good hour or two to get the phone set up in a way I prefer, whereas Sense kind of has it's settings put in such a way that creates a better user experience.
So as I said before, CM7 would be my preferred ROM since when I do get it set up the way I want, the phone is easy to use and everything is quickly accessible to me. Virtuous, as nice as it is, is just a bit too slow and too much of a battery drainer for me to use it every day.

redpoint73 said:
The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.
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So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL

Bloodlvst said:
As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL
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There is an app called contapps or something like that on market that has similar facebook to contact integration.
Speed = CM or CM based (GingerVillian)
Ease of use = Sense based (Virtuous)
It is really boiling down to personal preference. I did find myself jumping between AOSP and Sense before but could never really shake my love for Sense. The slight bloat and 0.001% lag that i experience is a good price to pay . I hope you find the rom that fits you, whatever that may be
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.1 using XDA App

Bloodlvst said:
So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
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Yep, pretty much. CM6 is very stable. But for me, if you're going to go Froyo, you may as well go Sense. I like the extra features, and you can use an alternative launcher, since the lag on the Sense ROMs is mostly when using the stock launcher, IMO. And I didn't seem to experience any worse battery life with Sense ROMs versus CM7, like a previous user mentioned. But I didn't stay on CM6 long enough to compare battery life. Plus, the theming aesthetics of the Sense ROM and Gingerbread are nicer than Froyo, in my personal taste.

Actually there is also a sense gingerbread out accurately named 'senseginger' made by teamvillain aswell. It is very good. It is the middleground of froyo sense and stock gingerbread.
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CM is a lot smoother and simple.
The sense part on Virtuous takes up toooo much memory and slows the phone down, but the widgets are nice.

Android always comes down to user preference. You want a suggestion? Try both. And give it a good week. Even if you HATE it at first, give it a good while before deciding against it. You may find that once little aspect that will keep you from ever changing.

Me personally, I like CM7 over any sense based rom hands down. With the new gingerbread based cm7 I can easily link all of my facebook contacts with the ones in my contact list. If at first the picture doesn't show up, make sure you have the facebook app to sync all and then just long press your contact and join it to the facebook one. Boom, instant gratification. I personally rely on my ram being free, and the ability to overclock smoothly for playing ps one emulators. SetCpu has been known to cause glitches in cm7 for underclocking or overclocking too much, but as long as you do a minimal amount of research for your setup, it is easily avoided. As some others previously stated, it's all dependant on your preference and what you use your phone for. Try them both for a week at least, then decide, that's the best advice I could give
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My first experience with a ROM was CM7 RC1-4 and a few days ago I was bored and installed Virtuous and it's not bad but I definitely prefer CM7, it's way faster and smoother. The main reason I got the G2 was because it's Vanilla Android and CM7 has it all!
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Android 2.3.3
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CyanogenMod 7.0.0 Stable
ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.2.4

Main question: do you like Sense or no? I've tried miui, virtuous, gb sense, etc. I always go back to cm7. Just smoother.
Virtuous (and all sense roms I've tried) send blurry MMSs as well.
Sent from my CM7 GDeux

I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!

mattew83 said:
I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!
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What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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joe3681 said:
What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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On Camcorder, taking a video landscape, then trying to playback in portrait mode results in the screen showing white and blue lines. Same with taking the video in portrait and trying to playback while in landscape mode.
Also, there is a Gmail margin problem. And there is a decent amount of people with non-GPS (although probably most CM users are fine on this).
But similar to the previous response, I have not tried the more recent CM releases, to see if these were fixed.

As others have said, it comes down to personal preferences. I've come to like Sense recently and am really liking the amazing standby times I've been getting with Virtuous, so I'm sticking with that for a bit. After a couple releases I may look into CM7 again, though, since I miss the customizable automatic brightness levels it has (a little feature that is a big deal to me).

Justice rom

Has anyone tried jrummy's justice rom? I am curious about the cm7/liberty hybrid, and want to see if anyone has anything to say about it.
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I want to try it, can't find a download anywhere
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STAYFROSTY777 said:
I want to try it, can't find a download anywhere
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you have to buy his toolbox in the market to download it.

Mod edit: turn this into a substantive post and try again.

It's early. But...
Justice is an amazing rom in my opinion. This is my first adventure into the CM series roms. There are a few bugs but they seem to be related to the CM7 build its based off of and compatibility issues with some rom toolbox options. However the rom is quite robust if you crave a feature/control rich device.
Pros:
- Developed by jrummy16
- Integration with Rom Toolbox and Theme Chooser
- Status Bar vastly improved over stock
- Added Settings options and improved overall customization
- Very stable considering some current incompatibilities
- Built in sound scheme profiling
- Very much like Liberty's bigger brother
- Tests quite high in quadrant (2240 overclocked after normal usage)
- Stable Overclocked at 1250 mhz with Android Overclock (smartass governor)
- ADW Based launcher
- 1% Battery incriments. Looks better in juice plotter and better stats
- Boot options such as cache clearing
- Keeps a considerable amount of free ram, to a disadvantage at times, however it's preferable to the opposite and seems more appropriate.
- Beta tested an App Manager by jrummy16 and I assume it's potential integration will be very handy especially if it contends with apps like Titanium Backup
- Certainly suggest many of the mentioned apps (especially jrummy16 apps) for the full effect (Donate, you'll get your bucks worth)
Cons:
- DSP Manager not working yet.
- GPS not operable on flash (fix by flashing known CM7 gps fix)
- LED flash and color customization only works on cycle/blend all colors mode
- Occasionally freezes in graphics intensive games and Maps (no pattern could be me)
- Had to restore Street View from Titanium backup version (possible GPS relation) However it is still not downloadable through the market
- GPS fix corrected loss of Navigation app and corrected Maps issues
- Seems to have issues with ADW Launcher EX lag after a new flash but it always gets better over time. I prefer EX over ADW basic
- Battery consumption seems to have increased but too did the fun
- Option to lock certain apps in memory is broken and seems helpful for Launcher lag issues
- GMail app won't send mail normal email app will
- New format of flasable rom package is inconvenient
- Being a new rom and a beta I'm very pleased and really look forward to future releases despite the lack of polish
- jrummy16 needs a direct line from beta testers.
All in all I feel like I'm holding a very unique device with this rom. If you are an experienced android dev you could probably work out several of the quirks by yourself. And even if your not they can be fixed if your familiar with getting this far. jrummy16 is worth the donate button.
Happy Flashing!

Thanks for the substantial review. I'll have to try it.
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I started with LIberty 1.5 then moved to 2.01. Used that for quite a while on my dx, until I saw justice one day in the rom tools. Been using Justice .1 ever since, and other than the few bugs everyone has reported, I think it works great. Then again, besides liberty, justice is the only custom rom I've ever used, so all I have to compare it with is the original motoblur filled stock crap. But yea, I think it works great.

Great rom. Used it for a while until it looked liked updates were not coming anytime soon.
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[Q] Defy begginer: CM7 or MIUI? And 720p addons for them...

Hi! Yesterday i got my Defy and I installed 2.2 update with Motorola Software Updater and I wanted to install a custom rom like MIUI or CM7 but i dont know whats better . So u can tell me please whats better from them? I heard that CM7 has some wifi errors but they can be fixed...
P.S : i have Red Lens and i want to put and 720p mod after...

try cm7 if you want more customized rom
MIUI if you want more display features
for 720: you can search google and the market for camcoder apps that supports 720p
I tried cm7 and it is wonderful

Well i heard that MIUI has better performance rather than CM7 in Quadrant...

Cm7 does not support 720p rec.
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Done installed CM7 and works F****NG perfect got 2100 in quadrant :X

sims34 said:
Well i heard that MIUI has better performance rather than CM7 in Quadrant...
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Quadrant isnt everything, MIUI have the looks, and maybe less bugs, but even CM7 is very very smooth and fast, am using RC1.5, i have not experienced any of the bugs (wifi/gps/battery), easily customizable as opposed to MIUI.

I've had miui before, but it seemed to be a bit laggy, comparing to my ipod touch's menu. The apple smoothness is just great and I thought I can't get that smoothness on my defy. Then I installed cm7 on my defy and, magically, it runs veery smoothly without any lags. thought Miui was good. Yes, it was, but cm7 is just great!
and screw quadrant, unless you want to be happy with higher numbers
Tapatalknięte z ipada.

WiFi depends upon your router. CM7 rocks. Green lens defy ZERO issues with cm7
Sent from my DEFY running CM7 using XDA App

MIUI looks great.
CM7 works really fast.
Julian

I've been trying the different roms I've found here and so far the best for me is Waj's MIUI version. Maybe because I'm a newb, but CM7 started looping on FC after I tried to enable 3G only in my Defy.
And the MIUI versions just didn't do it. The only thing I need now is to add a 720p addon for the video.

Can we record 720p from a green lens ??

CM7 is a wonderful ROM
LOVE IT！！！

pjcons said:
WiFi depends upon your router. CM7 rocks. Green lens defy ZERO issues with cm7
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Some of us do have issues with wifi in CM7. I installed RC 1.5 + nightly and started having issues with the same routers that used to work perfectly in 2.2.
But I would not recommend CM7 any less because of that. Install and see if it affects you, as this seem to be a issue with only a small percentage of us.
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Well i heard that MIUI has better performance rather than CM7 in Quadrant...
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Is this a fact? I was blown away by CM7 performance over stock 2.2, but I'm having some wifi issues with CM7. Is MIUI performance also so much better than stock?

Green lens does not support 720p. Only the red lens.
MIUI does have a better performance over stock but they are based off CM7 with added visual enhancements. There are alot of app incompatibilities and constant fc's. I have used MIUI but got annoyed with all the errors. Wifi is fine and they update every Friday but just too many problems for me. I am using CM7 now and I love it. No wifi issues but I haven't tried any nightly's yet either.
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i own a green lensed Defy and i've flashed the MS2Ginger with Blur.
Gotta say i loved the interface (bright and bluish) and the text cursor is very usefull (seem like the "rule" in MS Word) and it has nice effects when showing Views and that animation when the screen rotate, just like iOS does.
but i it has a lot of FC, it's pretty laggy sometimes (the maximum free mem i got once was like ~100MB) an its 3D performace is poor.
i'll reflash again and i'll try a CM7. I was considering that JBoogie 3 that is based on CM7 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158238&page=3)
What would you suggest? The thing is that it lacks theme support...
About that, does anyone know where i can find CM7 themes? Is there an overhead for using them? Is there a way to install "animations" (such this screen-rotating one)?
Thanks
(btw: what's the best Caller/Phonebook that syncs pics with FB? is a "caller" interface able to change the, ahm, "answerer" interface?
what about gps with loaded map info?)

snagnever said:
i own a green lensed Defy and i've flashed the MS2Ginger with Blur.
Gotta say i loved the interface (bright and bluish) and the text cursor is very usefull (seem like the "rule" in MS Word) and it has nice effects when showing Views and that animation when the screen rotate, just like iOS does.
but i it has a lot of FC, it's pretty laggy sometimes (the maximum free mem i got once was like ~100MB) an its 3D performace is poor.
i'll reflash again and i'll try a CM7. I was considering that JBoogie 3 that is based on CM7 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158238&page=3)
What would you suggest? The thing is that it lacks theme support...
About that, does anyone know where i can find CM7 themes? Is there an overhead for using them? Is there a way to install "animations" (such this screen-rotating one)?
Thanks
(btw: what's the best Caller/Phonebook that syncs pics with FB? is a "caller" interface able to change the, ahm, "answerer" interface?
what about gps with loaded map info?)
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Jboogie 3 is good and has a Ginger release but has an issue with no social network syncing. If you are going to go with something based on CM7 go with CM7. It has the theme support with the new Theme Choser and in the market there is a Theme Chowder Themes which has a large list of usable themes. As for the animations, I'm not sure about that.
Facebook app automatically syncs your pics but if you want a new contact book and dialer I would sugjest Phoneface. GPS, definitely CoPilot 8 live. All maps are preloaded so no data needed and completely removes the need for another GPS unit.
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actually i have just flash the jboogie3 and, since it's clear, i'll give CM7-pure a try.
but i gotta say it's really fast!

What is wajs miui?

CM7 is so great.

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What is wajs miui?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161110

Sick and tired of MIUI... recommend me a good stable ROM

I've endured that ROM for a long time but i've finally had it. My swype doesn't work, SD card barely works, data/wifi, FCs, everything is going to hell in a handbasket.
Please recommend me of a solid rom i can install in 10 minutes and titanium-restore my apps.
Please no uber-custom ROMs... i want something new solid and stable.
Thanks!

Kang build of Cyanogenmod.
It's pretty much a no-brainer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873

I'm using the 2012.02.18 nightly build of CM9 (see the thread in the dev section) as my daily driver and it's been quite stable.

skylar.sutton said:
I'm using the 2012.02.18 nightly build of CM9 (see the thread in the dev section) as my daily driver and it's been quite stable.
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Is video working on nightly yet? YouTube and Netflix??

CM7 - original 7.0 stable release.
Everything works, except for deep sleep, but if you charge it every night, like you would a cell phone, it is no problem.
(I don't use Netflix, but I remember seeing threads about it for CM7.)
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Kang build of Cyanogenmod.
It's pretty much a no-brainer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
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It's so stable that there were major fixes four days ago.

This is development related why?

MIUI is very good, just a bit tricky on first install.
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Please recommend me of a solid rom i can install in 10 minutes and titanium-restore my apps.
Thanks!
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My family has 3 Nooks.
I reverted First 2 Nooks to B&N 1.2 stock before installing MIUI. Wth full wype and reset. Registered for warranty purposes, immediately shut down. Full wype again then installed MIUI. Used Titanium to restore.
First 2 have been on MIUI with Swype Beta, for months now, without any problems other than market on 1.11.4 which is now fixed on the latest release. I started on 1.9, then 1.11.4 now 2.2.3. Swype Beta works great, (Must first uninstall standard Swype and register with Swype for the Beta. It is an easy signup on their website, the trick is finding the beta page). Titanium works great.
The 3rd is on B&N 1.4.1 rooted with Manualy nooter and Dalingrin OC Kernel. Everything seems to be great, except Swype will not run on B&N Stock roms. Titanium Backup does not work on B&N 1.4.1 rooted. Will try The CM 9 nightlies for fun in the next few weeks.
I do recall having early tiny problems with MIUI, but the usual wipes and installs seemed to settle everything. When first booting on MIUI there can be frustrating stages as you use the Button Saviour and Keyboards to get past the first SuperUser requests.
Use zMooth for the virtual buttons on the MIUI roms. Locate the zMooth Swype area to bottom left, reduce height to minimum, and change color to transparent grey. Also reduced width to about 1/2 inch.
Also use
Titanium Backup Pro to convert Button Saviour to a user app, then remove it completely. (Also to save and restore apps after clean installs)
Titanium works on MIUI and on B&N Nook
GoLauncher EX (free) Great for standardizing the UI for all my Android devices
Samba file share is great!!
Root Explorer Pro !! and
ADB Wireless essential and cool.
Nook Tweaks from Dalingrin to set up the Audio levels and undervoltages (essential)
SetCPU to OC to 1.2 Ghz on all 3 Nooks working well. (Needs Dalingrin's Kernel on the B&N 1.4.1) Dalingrin is a wizard.
Use Kindle, Nook and Aldiko for reading books.
Adobe PDF reader working well. Adobe Air and Flash also
GAPS working well
Opera Mobile for web (mostly)because of reflow ability, plus Firefox and Dolphin sometimes.
Rom Manager Premium
FolderSync is great for syncing with Drop box and other cloud backups.
Roboform Evernote and Twitter all work great
Facebook Messenger works very well but Facebook app itself is "force closing".
Pandora, Pulse, Quickpick all working well.
BirdieSync - sync with ThunderBird and Lightning (These guys are responsive) they come out with a new version of BirdieSync within days/hours of a new release of Thunderbird and have never tried to sting me for more money after years of use. (I have no connection with the company, just happy with them)
PowerAmp working great.
Youtube working,
XDA Premium working
Wish I could contribute / help with lower level testing!!!! Too much to learn.
Hope this helps.

pdanders said:
Kang build of Cyanogenmod.
It's pretty much a no-brainer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
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Best CM7 rom right now. Lean, mean and fast.
I don't why someone would recommend CM7 7.0 since from what I remember it was pretty slow compared to the mirage's kang build

I use the Kang build too. It is great! I will eventually move to cm9 once all the kinks are out.

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I've endured that ROM for a long time but i've finally had it. My swype doesn't work, SD card barely works, data/wifi, FCs, everything is going to hell in a handbasket.
Please recommend me of a solid rom i can install in 10 minutes and titanium-restore my apps.
Please no uber-custom ROMs... i want something new solid and stable.
Thanks!
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Kang build of Cyanogenmod is pretty safe and performs very well
I also have installed on 3 machines the Cm7 233 (before all the "enhancements",
and it has and still is solid reliable and snappy.

Most stable cm7.10 stable. I don't use it myself.

7.10 works great for me.

another vote for KANG build. Smoothest & fastest I've seen on mine.

Cyanogenmod 9 v6.0 vs stock ICS 4.0.4 (basic differences?)

Hi everybody! I have some "newbie" questions about CyanogenMod 9...
1. Is it really faster compared to stock ICS? I haven't overclocked the processor and my main problem with ICS, is that the default launcher has a little stuttering some times and it's not absolutely smooth. In CyanogenMod9, the "Trebuchet" launcher is almost at the same level in terms of "movement flow".
I had Nova launcher previously and I'm thinking of installing it again on CyanogenMod 9...will this be a right move?
2. What else is better than the stock ICS there? Ι already use that marvelous power widget inside the notification bar, but, except some similar workflow tweaks, I can't see anything else...any feature list compared to the stock ICS 4.0.4?
3. Why the torch toggle-in-notification is disabled in settings? (the pre-installed torch seem to work perfectly)
4. Screen brightness gets increased when there is a lot of light around, but It doesn't decrease its brightness when I go in a dark room again...Am I doing something wrong? (I haven't touched those sensor filters etc...)
Can you please help me? I'm not a developer and I'm mostly concerned about a smooth and fast experience.

1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.

erikikaz said:
1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.
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Thanks for the response!
1. If you read carefully my post (sorry for my bad English), you will understand that I already have tried CM9 v6.0 and that was the reason I wanted to know more, because I don't see any performance improvement over stock ICS 4.0.4 on my Nexus S. Am I wrong? There must be some objective reasons except my judgement.
2. I was talking specifically about CM9 features.
3. I figured that with the torch...it's probably not ready yet. I can't find any post about the brightness though (there are so many options there which I don't fully understand and brightness never works as it should).
4. I don't want to flash other roms...I have already flashed Wildestpixel's roms and I didn't see an obvious performance difference too...

For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread

Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".

stellar said:
For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread
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Thanks!!! That seems to work most of the times!

madd0g said:
Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".
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Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.

Muvolt said:
Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.
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Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
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madd0g said:
Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
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Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?

Muvolt said:
Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?
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K, back to stock values, because after some time on 1200 sensors stopped working.
Nope, OTA won't work, the update is for CM I think.
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Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
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Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.

turmoil4eva said:
Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
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Just made it for recent 15.4 build, should work on v6 I think : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25022665&postcount=216
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Poriotis said:
Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.
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Screw benchmarks, usage experience counts and it's not measurable.

Agreed those who actually perform better in bench mark end up being a nuisances. If u want a daily driver stick with cm9 its glitch free.
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I'm using CM9. Last rom I tried was AOKP build 32, but I went back to CM9.